@@MirzaAhmed89 They are referring to the time shown on the thumbnail before you watch. It's always one second more for some reason. Freemas0ns love numerology, like 7's, 3 lots of 7 and 21. With 21 being 3 lots of 7. They will say it's 321 going down in numbers, but so what.
And/Or a simple bribe. Boeing needs sales badly, and they have shown themselves above nothing, other than actual quality engineering, to get those sales.
@@kevinwong1988 Airbus just needs to keep building aircraft as they are. They’ll work through the backlog, they’ll increase airframes delivered safely bit by bit… Not this “Boeing wants to Triple production as soon as they can”. Even then the MAX 10 is so delayed that there’s a good chance Airbus might be announcing some milestone by that point.
They are getting a good deal. By the time the 10 rolls out, with the amount of oversight on Boeing at the minute, you would expect a really good plane with few problems. And they would have gotten a really good price for it under the current situation
They said that after the two Max crashes. Then, Alaska airlines and several other 737 Max incidents. Boeing is toxic and needs to fail. That's what they deserve.
I've heard they invested heavily on the onboard computers. The infotainment for the passengers. But don't worry, the other two in the front are still the same reliable ones. (running on Intel's 80286, a CPU with a 40 years of experience)
@@miks564 the A320neo family uses the EXACT same chip. The ceo used the 80186 and the neo upgraded to the 80286 because their reliability is unmatched and there are several redundant processors in case of malfunction. Again, you’re just showing in this comment section that you have very little engineering experience.
Good for Boeing!!!! They can use this kind of lifting news other than all the negativity they've been getting. The 737-MAX-10 might've been way overdue but at least this airline is confident that it will soon be certified. I think it will soon.
42 faulty, rejected tail rudders went 'missing' from the Boeing production lines, that the engineers say won't last the average 30 year life cycle of an aircraft. Estimates put it that 50,000 faulty parts 'escaped' according to whistleblowers. Some rejected parts had up to 200 defects.
That's the point of the current livery of Pegasus, kids are very important in Turkiye because they are our future, we even have a dedicated holiday for them, and the aircrafts named after Pegasus employees kids'
No. The quantity is not a factor. If you buy 20-30 or more there is no more discount. The prices are already too low. Some airlines say they will order 100 aircraft. Boeing and Airbus come with an offer. Then the airline says sorry I will take only 20 (sales campaigns can take 2 to 3 years easily), but at the same price. For such ‘small ‘ orders and with the actual backlog the airframers say No. if you take only 20 then the price is this one ( a bit higher). If you don’t take this offer I have other customers waiting for your slots.
Nicklolly, do you remember how adamant you were that there won't be any delays with the 777X? That was before the thrust link issue became publicly known. You are such an Airbus fan boy.... 🤣
@@jantjarks7946 How did everyone know that an issue with the thrust links was due at any time once certification began? Nobody would know unless it would happen. You are the airbus fanboy of course🤣
@ And until the FAA gives the fix its go ahead, there’s no certification… It’s been 8 months since the reported hand in/advance in design, there’s clearly some work being done to verify Boeing did their job the 3rd time.
@@smoketinytom and clearly airlines do not care because they keep ordering more. Most plane orders for new models or variants are placed prior to certification, that’s not usual at all.
@@swanvictor887 Err..for us, customers ? If Boeing doesn't deliver, extra pressure on Airbus and others, more delays on delivery. Airlines extend the life of their old fleet, lease..and we pay for it. Yeah 737 is old, but what can we do.
@@FlyByWire1 He's right though. Boeing purely reengineered the design with low ground clearance simply because of money and greed, hence Max was born. Not that anything is wrong with the design itself. A330 Neo is not relevant in this conversation.
Pegasus seems to be growing faster that Airbus can supply A321s, so the only alternative is for them is to order Boeings, even if the date of availability is still indeterminate. If Airbus can ramp up its monthly production of narrowbodies to 75 per month while Boeing still struggles to exceed the current FAA limit of 38 per month, then Pegasus may well increase its A321 order before Boeing can deliver MAX-10s.
Something tells me Boeings new CEO needs to do what he can to get the stock price back up. Would not surprise me at all if he green-lit one hell of a discount for this deal to go through. Which would mean this deal won’t do much for Boeings bottom line or the company in the long term.
Desperation over Airbus' *HUGE* backlog and a need for planes, now? Boeing's quality problems aside, they're still getting delays in just getting certified (I wouldn't put it past them to try something shady again to speed this up). Albeit probably not as stifling as Airbus' production slots.
This would be groundbreaking if Boeing could get their 737 in the air without having problem after problem. The 737 has been a total headache for Boeing, and finally shaking the jinx, would be huge.
"Modernise" using a 737? No. The 737's early 1960s design fuselage is narrower than the A320/321 fleet Pegasus are still getting delivered new. That means smaller, narrower, seats, and smaller baggage bins.
Chill. A lot of passengers have flown the Max and most don't have anything negative to say about it. The vast majority of people don't notice the relatively small difference in seat width. Feel free to hate the aircraft all you want, but it is a vital part of the aviation industry, just as all the Airbus and Embraer aircraft are.
If you're a grown man sitting next to another grown man you'll definitely notice the difference between the 737 and the a320 especially at the front of the aircraft. The 737 is not at all comfortable.
@@joshafc41 it depends on the man. I'm six foot 7 inches tall and about 267lbs. I honestly don't get that much more comfortable on either jet. I'd prefer a wide body over the A320/737 any day.
@@KingTriton1837 I agree with you on the comfort side. All narrow bodies high density configuration are terrible for big guys. That said, the tech behind each model is day and night.
Tough week for Airbus. Delta cancelled 321XLR Order and now Pegasus taking a huge order with Boeing and that's Boeing when it's not even in it's best shape!
This is awesome! I hope they get there ‘10s sooner than 2027. It sucks that the 7 and 10 were delayed due Alaska 1282. But this bird is a great choice, not just for Pegasus, but all airlines! I can’t wait to see this bird in the sky!
@@nowee_playzz4931 You should consider that the 737 is not a great choice anymore in the third decade of the XXI century. Do you know it’s the only Boeing analogue aircraft (no fancy electronic redundancy) without EICAS? Yes it still flies great, like a good car from the 80s might still perform very efficiently if equipped with a modern engine. But still lacks all the modern 3 letter safety features.
You want the best 737 MAX, fly onboard Fly Dubai’s 737 MAX, Imagine a 737 MAX 8 on long haul flights up to 10 hours non stop. Fly Dubai is planning to host a flight from DXB to Paris Orly, or to Zurich, Geneva, Amsterdam, London Stansted, or Nice.
If at Pegasus they really want to play truth or dare then they should order the Comac C919, which is in fact already being produced. Worldwide certification will definitely be coming for this plane.
Seems the main reason boeing sells jetliners today is because Airbus just cannot meet the demand due to thousands of orders already placed. When will the max10 ever start being delivered (or 777X). Boeing cannot even get the KC-46A going and it is based on the 44yr old 767-200!
What's the point of waiting 47 years for an aircraft that the DOJ has rejected Boeing's request for dispensation and isn't going to be certified anytime soon. 737-10 will be a long way away.
I watched an episode of the TV show Spotlight and they were talking about how these 737 Max Jets and the Jets were so dangerous to fly because they had so many problems.
@@ZRHTrainspotter Senin Lion Air ve Ethiopian Airlines kazalarindan haberin yok galiba. Toplamda 346 kisi hayatini kaybetti. Ve Boeing sorunlari biliyordu ama aciklamamisti. Bu alim Pegasus icin skandal. Denek olmak istiyorsan kendi secimin.
I know what this airline is thinking. They have an order for one hundred A321 neos and one hundred Boeing 737 Max ten, which is equivalent to making their fleet half Boeing and half Airbus.But there is a huge problem, the Boeing 737 Max10 delivery has been delayed many times, while the A320neo has been delivered steadily in large quantities. Under such circumstances, they decided to order so many Boeing 737 Max10s, which is really stupid in my opinion.This is definitely a wrong decision. I don't know what they are thinking, but the A321 neo obviously has a more stable delivery time and a more reliable quality level.Oh，wait, the delay for MAX10 is not in delivery, but in certification. They haven't even gotten certification yet!
Because there's so many issues with Boeing, people who know aviation dislike Boeing. Airlines however know that 95% of people who fly don't know aviation - they just wanna get from A to B for cheap. So despite all the bad rep and objective issues with Boeing, profitability-wise, buying the 737 MAX is a commercially good move.
Just a theory... I think there was a political aspect of the Boeing problem. I'm not discounting the issues they have had with the door or other non-fatal failures, but with something has not added up in my mind about these slow-walked certifications. Pegasus, and other carriers might be expecting some changes at the FAA in the next few months. It would not surprise me if the max-7 and 10 are certified in six months and maybe the 777X by the end of the year.
@@camhusmj38 No, they have fixed the anti Ice system a couple of months ago. Thats why production has restarted and planes are being delivered. The MAX 7 and 10 have the anti ice fixed!
@@nickolliver3021 Because Boeing should have replaced the 737 in the 90s after seeing Airbus A320. Instead they just decided to keep stretching the life of an old analogue aircraft. And you know why they’ve pulled it out? Because they were Boeing. See what they’ve done with one of the most iconic brand of the last century. I don’t fly them, because of two reasons: - I have modern and safer alternatives - Out of principle. I do not support products, brands or countries with enough number of policies I do not agree with. In this case, it’s just the 737 the only Boeing aircraft without EICAS. I still believe in the brand despite of everything. The brand isn’t just the board of directors.
Bargain basement givaway prices I bet. Who in their right mind orders 737s especially ones not even certified yet. They could have got brand new modern Embraer sooner and on time. Amazed in South Africa
While we may never know the sweeteners in the contract, I would also suspect a great deal. As for the Embraer, as great as it may be, it isn't anywhere near large enough to compete with the MAX10, or the A321. Now, if Embraer were as good at changing the fuselage diameter as they are at sizing their wings, we could see what the market needs, the end of the current duopoly.
Primitive technology for an outdated aircraft. In this time and age, the crew still needs to arm the girt bar manually. No power assists to the door and for ditching its a separate device. Boeing is outdated.
From my own experience Pegasus did operate B757 in the past as well. I flying on this type some years back. So it is not only the B373-800 which is known to Pegasus as a Boeing aircraft.
@@brekobrek Well, I'm quite sure that I was sitting in an B757 from Frankfurt to Istanbul on at least one of the legs. Would it be possible that this was a code share flight or a 3rd party airline servicing those days ? I had been in the 2000s often on Delta-B757 between FRA and JFK (DL107) so I'm quite confident it was a B757 on the Pegasus flight.
By golly they must have got them cheap. Boeing will never make a profit this way. It's like a fire sale, but what else can Boeing do but give aircrat away. It's pure desperation to stop it collapsing. (satire)
737 MAX has issues, specifically MCAS and the Alaska Air door issues. Isn't it? Why are so many orders booked after knowing that? Are all those issues fixed?
In all probability, yes. It is uncommon but sadly not unusual for an aircraft to suffer serious safety issues early in its life, These attract huge publicity (and rightly so) but the long-term effect is a concentrated effort to improve it, usually with good results. Think of the Lockheed Electra, the Comet, and the DC-10 - all had a series of well-publicised crashes, and in each case there was a major effort to fix the problems, followed by many years of safe and effective commercial service.
Yes these issues have been fixed thats why airlines are still ordering these planes. MCAS is fixed. Plug door has been fixed. Cracks in airbus are fixed and so on
Hello...! The 200,orders of Boeing Max 10 from Pegasus sound amazing,but Max variant are also not so trusted model,as it has safety issues that haven't been resolved satisfactorily...! Further more Boeing has become inconsistent in copping up with timely deliveries...! As has been the case with 787 Dreamliners....
It's funny that the video is 3:21 lol
I love this! Proper underrated comment 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼💯💯💯
No way 😂
It shows 3:20 on my screen, but that still fits.
@@MirzaAhmed89 They are referring to the time shown on the thumbnail before you watch. It's always one second more for some reason. Freemas0ns love numerology, like 7's, 3 lots of 7 and 21. With 21 being 3 lots of 7. They will say it's 321 going down in numbers, but so what.
I don't get it, Singapore Airlines Flight 321?
I bet that was one hell of discount 😂
And/Or a simple bribe. Boeing needs sales badly, and they have shown themselves above nothing, other than actual quality engineering, to get those sales.
You have to take into consideration that the A320NEO backlog is entirely sold out so there’s that
@@Racko.But the -10 is not even certified.
Buy 100, get 100 free. 😉
@@camhusmj38 doesn't matter
Interesting. Maybe they see the long waiting time for Airbus A321neo, but then who knows when the certification of 737 MAX 10 will happen.
Q2 2025 the MAX 10 will be certified
@@kevinwong1988 Airbus just needs to keep building aircraft as they are. They’ll work through the backlog, they’ll increase airframes delivered safely bit by bit… Not this “Boeing wants to Triple production as soon as they can”.
Even then the MAX 10 is so delayed that there’s a good chance Airbus might be announcing some milestone by that point.
@@nickolliver3021 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
@@jgnclvgmng5408 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
About 7 years
They are getting a good deal. By the time the 10 rolls out, with the amount of oversight on Boeing at the minute, you would expect a really good plane with few problems. And they would have gotten a really good price for it under the current situation
That oversight failed already. Alaska.
They said that after the two Max crashes. Then, Alaska airlines and several other 737 Max incidents. Boeing is toxic and needs to fail. That's what they deserve.
Solid reasoning, I still would prefer another model
Do these planes come with the optional Spontaneous Ventilation Facility?
Definetely, they like to pamper their customers with little surprises.
I've heard they invested heavily on the onboard computers.
The infotainment for the passengers.
But don't worry, the other two in the front are still the same reliable ones.
(running on Intel's 80286, a CPU with a 40 years of experience)
Super!@@miks564
The Master Control Auto Shredder will turn the plane to bits before it hits the ground. Makes it easier to get rid of it.
@@miks564 the A320neo family uses the EXACT same chip. The ceo used the 80186 and the neo upgraded to the 80286 because their reliability is unmatched and there are several redundant processors in case of malfunction. Again, you’re just showing in this comment section that you have very little engineering experience.
Good for Boeing!!!! They can use this kind of lifting news other than all the negativity they've been getting. The 737-MAX-10 might've been way overdue but at least this airline is confident that it will soon be certified. I think it will soon.
It is great news for the employees at Boeing in Washington State. Congratulations
Well, they ordered the max just because Airbus is already fully booked until the end of this decade.
@@LA25-d6x they already have tons of Airbus planes on order. They’ve been receiving A321neos for years now and have over 50 A320neos in operation.
That was not said in the order announcement
@@nickolliver3021 do you think they'd say this thing out loud to the public?? Have some common sense.
@@ledarthplanet Of course they would. They would explain why but they didn't so we know it was not because of the large backlog
@@ledarthplanetExpecting common sense from wacky nickie is like expecting an anvil to swim across a lake😊
42 faulty, rejected tail rudders went 'missing' from the Boeing production lines, that the engineers say won't last the average 30 year life cycle of an aircraft. Estimates put it that 50,000 faulty parts 'escaped' according to whistleblowers. Some rejected parts had up to 200 defects.
Has that been verified or malicious rumours?
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Holy glaze for airbus😂
Maybe Pegasus could buy a new livery for their new planes?
Their current one looks like a 4 year old designed it in three minutes!
Maybe it's the same one who signed the contract! 🤣 And likes to gamble as well.
That's the point of the current livery of Pegasus, kids are very important in Turkiye because they are our future, we even have a dedicated holiday for them, and the aircrafts named after Pegasus employees kids'
@@LibeduX Oh nice, I didn't know the story about this. 👍
U haven’t seen Avianca’s one clearly haha , 2 year olds …
Ordering an uncertified airplane. Good move.
I see where you're coming from this being the MAX family, but the the XLR just recently received it's certifications.
@@petesteirer that’s how literally every new model of airplane works. Sales begin when the plane is announced, not when it’s certified lol
Yeah, but they will never fly.......its a BOEING! @FlyByWire1
another armchair expert has spoken :D
@@chiad25 *its 😊
It could be a great deal for Pegasus with huge discount on the price. No?
Absolutely. An enormous discount, but good news for Boeing to finish a hard year.
Buy a -10 pay only for engines kind of deal
No. The quantity is not a factor. If you buy 20-30 or more there is no more discount. The prices are already too low.
Some airlines say they will order 100 aircraft. Boeing and Airbus come with an offer. Then the airline says sorry I will take only 20 (sales campaigns can take 2 to 3 years easily), but at the same price. For such ‘small ‘ orders and with the actual backlog the airframers say No. if you take only 20 then the price is this one ( a bit higher). If you don’t take this offer I have other customers waiting for your slots.
Buy one , second is free 😂
Not even Boeing used the “Max” name in its press release lol
I would have gone for more Aiebus, especially LR and XLR but the waiting list is too long.
Thats why there is a big demand
I think possibly all Neos could be delivered before certification.
You are not allowed to deliver if the aircraft is not certified.
@@ChapaLipar no one delivers an uncertified aircraft
Yes, that’s what I said. No one is allowed to deliver a non certified aircraft 😊
Pegasus will have driven a real hard bargain.
Do we know IF the MAX 10 will be certified at all?
Q2 2025
@@nickolliver3021For sure buddy 😂😂😂
@jhdsfalsjhdfjashdkhvjfldld8301 it's a fact
No, the certification of the MAX10 is extremely uncertain.
Or a 777x, y, z?
They’ll get their planes in about… 20 to 30 years
prove it
As usual with Boeing, some hiccups will cause another delay. And another, and another...
@jantjarks7946 how could you prove that. The usual with airbus. Just more delays of delivering aircraft too. Boo hoo
Nicklolly, do you remember how adamant you were that there won't be any delays with the 777X? That was before the thrust link issue became publicly known.
You are such an Airbus fan boy.... 🤣
@@jantjarks7946 How did everyone know that an issue with the thrust links was due at any time once certification began? Nobody would know unless it would happen.
You are the airbus fanboy of course🤣
No mention of Ryanair’s massive order1
O’Leary is a scumbag. I’m from Ireland.
....but they're only paying for twenty....
Must be super cheap for them to want an uncertified variant and for how many they ordered.
Like the 777x is uncertified but they know it will be
@ Oh yeah, it’s only half a decade behind schedule and still no fix in sight…
@@smoketinytom what fix in sight? There is already a fix
@ And until the FAA gives the fix its go ahead, there’s no certification… It’s been 8 months since the reported hand in/advance in design, there’s clearly some work being done to verify Boeing did their job the 3rd time.
@@smoketinytom and clearly airlines do not care because they keep ordering more. Most plane orders for new models or variants are placed prior to certification, that’s not usual at all.
Every airline that has a Max in its fleet is placed on my personal blacklist.
Condolences to Pegasus
Couldn't have come at a better time for Boeing.
Good for Pegasus and Boeing. The sooner the Max 10s get certified and enter into service, the better.
....for whom exactly? A plane designed in 1967 and given cosmetic surgery beyond recognition......
@@swanvictor887 True, Botox work that went horribly wrong 😆
@@swanvictor887 the A330neo is based on a design from 1970s. Stop this foolishness, that’s not how engineering works at all.
@@swanvictor887 Err..for us, customers ? If Boeing doesn't deliver, extra pressure on Airbus and others, more delays on delivery. Airlines extend the life of their old fleet, lease..and we pay for it. Yeah 737 is old, but what can we do.
@@FlyByWire1 He's right though. Boeing purely reengineered the design with low ground clearance simply because of money and greed, hence Max was born. Not that anything is wrong with the design itself. A330 Neo is not relevant in this conversation.
Pegasus seems to be growing faster that Airbus can supply A321s, so the only alternative is for them is to order Boeings, even if the date of availability is still indeterminate. If Airbus can ramp up its monthly production of narrowbodies to 75 per month while Boeing still struggles to exceed the current FAA limit of 38 per month, then Pegasus may well increase its A321 order before Boeing can deliver MAX-10s.
How many will be sold on to 'float' the orc air industry through the back door 🤔
Something tells me Boeings new CEO needs to do what he can to get the stock price back up. Would not surprise me at all if he green-lit one hell of a discount for this deal to go through. Which would mean this deal won’t do much for Boeings bottom line or the company in the long term.
I'm just not going to fly Pegasus anytime soon.
Desperation over Airbus' *HUGE* backlog and a need for planes, now?
Boeing's quality problems aside, they're still getting delays in just getting certified (I wouldn't put it past them to try something shady again to speed this up). Albeit probably not as stifling as Airbus' production slots.
Funny this aircraft has more issues than the NG
Maybe they can keep the door from coming off and use certified products.
If it's Boeing, I'm not going.
well theres one airline i won't fly
Boeing probably gave them a deal they couldn't turn down.
I'd love to see the discount they got! Still a great catch for Boeing!
AB offered BOGO but they wanted to upgrade to Boeing!
This would be groundbreaking if Boeing could get their 737 in the air without having problem after problem. The 737 has been a total headache for Boeing, and finally shaking the jinx, would be huge.
"Modernise" using a 737? No. The 737's early 1960s design fuselage is narrower than the A320/321 fleet Pegasus are still getting delivered new. That means smaller, narrower, seats, and smaller baggage bins.
Chill. A lot of passengers have flown the Max and most don't have anything negative to say about it. The vast majority of people don't notice the relatively small difference in seat width. Feel free to hate the aircraft all you want, but it is a vital part of the aviation industry, just as all the Airbus and Embraer aircraft are.
If you're a grown man sitting next to another grown man you'll definitely notice the difference between the 737 and the a320 especially at the front of the aircraft. The 737 is not at all comfortable.
@@joshafc41 it depends on the man. I'm six foot 7 inches tall and about 267lbs. I honestly don't get that much more comfortable on either jet. I'd prefer a wide body over the A320/737 any day.
@@KingTriton1837 Most passengers know zero about aircraft and what technology they have.
@@KingTriton1837 I agree with you on the comfort side. All narrow bodies high density configuration are terrible for big guys.
That said, the tech behind each model is day and night.
Good night!
If Boeing screws up this order it could bring down the company
It probably means I won't be flying Pegasus in the future.
I will never use 737 Max
Tough week for Airbus. Delta cancelled 321XLR Order and now Pegasus taking a huge order with Boeing and that's Boeing when it's not even in it's best shape!
lol yeah airbus really struggling
Black Friday sales 😂😂
Who will buy this plane?
1. When it's very cheap
2. Don't care about safety
3. Don't care about customers....
Why would they split the order
This is awesome! I hope they get there ‘10s sooner than 2027. It sucks that the 7 and 10 were delayed due Alaska 1282. But this bird is a great choice, not just for Pegasus, but all airlines! I can’t wait to see this bird in the sky!
They were not delayed because of Alaska 1282. They were delayed because of bad quality control by Boeing
@@nowee_playzz4931 You should consider that the 737 is not a great choice anymore in the third decade of the XXI century.
Do you know it’s the only Boeing analogue aircraft (no fancy electronic redundancy) without EICAS?
Yes it still flies great, like a good car from the 80s might still perform very efficiently if equipped with a modern engine. But still lacks all the modern 3 letter safety features.
Still ain't going.
You want the best 737 MAX, fly onboard Fly Dubai’s 737 MAX, Imagine a 737 MAX 8 on long haul flights up to 10 hours non stop. Fly Dubai is planning to host a flight from DXB to Paris Orly, or to Zurich, Geneva, Amsterdam, London Stansted, or Nice.
If at Pegasus they really want to play truth or dare then they should order the Comac C919, which is in fact already being produced.
Worldwide certification will definitely be coming for this plane.
😂
Did he say MASSIVE?
relative to Boeing's recent orderbook, probably.
Let’s make Boeing 737 great again
Seems the main reason boeing sells jetliners today is because Airbus just cannot meet the demand due to thousands of orders already placed. When will the max10 ever start being delivered (or 777X). Boeing cannot even get the KC-46A going and it is based on the 44yr old 767-200!
stunning also bc i thought pegasus was transitioning to an all-airbus carrier
They got buy 1, get 1 free.
No that was AB offering
Good!!!!
What's the point of waiting 47 years for an aircraft that the DOJ has rejected Boeing's request for dispensation and isn't going to be certified anytime soon.
737-10 will be a long way away.
I watched an episode of the TV show Spotlight and they were talking about how these 737 Max Jets and the Jets were so dangerous to fly because they had so many problems.
Pegasus and it's passengers possesses real guts to go for Boeing...a defectively designed with umpteen quality issues . God save them
A flight to turkey would be good👍
I know which airline I'm not flying
I bet it was a Buy 2 get 1 Free Deal? 🙂
Hahahahahaha.
Always a great strategy to order an airplane that is not certified and struggles big time to get there.
Delay is too long now to get an Airbus :)
nope
Cheap planes for cheap airlines. That's what the MAX is about now. AC understood it too.
@@jantjarks7946 So is the a320 just cheap for cheap airlines
Tebrikler Pegasus Havayolları ❤ 🇹🇷 👏 ✈️
Nesi tebrikler ? Eger binlerce metre yukarida ucagin kapisinin acilmasi hosuna gidiyorsa o ayri, ve daha bilinmeyen "ufak" surprizler.
@@balyemez9489 boeing sonsuza kadar bu kadar tehlikeli olmayacak. yeni bir yönetimle sorunlarını çözecekler.
@@ZRHTrainspotter Senin Lion Air ve Ethiopian Airlines kazalarindan haberin yok galiba. Toplamda 346 kisi hayatini kaybetti. Ve Boeing sorunlari biliyordu ama aciklamamisti. Bu alim Pegasus icin skandal. Denek olmak istiyorsan kendi secimin.
Boeing probably offers discounts to its customers, especialy when they order more than 100 aircrafts.....
Not smart enough to figure out why Pegasus would do such a thing.
Wow
Ok yan❤
Boeing gave them a coupon.
I like Airbus A320 Family More
Must have been dirt cheap
Vicarious Voyager's review on Pegasus Airlines....is somewhat a feet long....hehehe
I know what this airline is thinking. They have an order for one hundred A321 neos and one hundred Boeing 737 Max ten, which is equivalent to making their fleet half Boeing and half Airbus.But there is a huge problem, the Boeing 737 Max10 delivery has been delayed many times, while the A320neo has been delivered steadily in large quantities. Under such circumstances, they decided to order so many Boeing 737 Max10s, which is really stupid in my opinion.This is definitely a wrong decision. I don't know what they are thinking, but the A321 neo obviously has a more stable delivery time and a more reliable quality level.Oh，wait, the delay for MAX10 is not in delivery, but in certification. They haven't even gotten certification yet!
Because there's so many issues with Boeing, people who know aviation dislike Boeing. Airlines however know that 95% of people who fly don't know aviation - they just wanna get from A to B for cheap. So despite all the bad rep and objective issues with Boeing, profitability-wise, buying the 737 MAX is a commercially good move.
@@lucidniprogramer589 Yes, I'm just concerned that Boeing may not be able to deliver them on time.
Just a theory... I think there was a political aspect of the Boeing problem. I'm not discounting the issues they have had with the door or other non-fatal failures, but with something has not added up in my mind about these slow-walked certifications. Pegasus, and other carriers might be expecting some changes at the FAA in the next few months. It would not surprise me if the max-7 and 10 are certified in six months and maybe the 777X by the end of the year.
Buy 2 get one free deal
The reason this is happening is because Boeing will sell an order of that size at a knockdown price and because Airbus are sold out for years.
737-10 Entry into Service: 2028? More likely 2029 or 2030. Plug doors are extra.
@@cskvision probably 2025 or 2026. Not sure where you got 2028 from. They’ve already done tons of certification testing on the MAX 7 and 10.
@@FlyByWire1Haven’t got a fix for the wing icing thing yet though.
@@camhusmj38 yes they have. Anti ice heard of that
@@nickolliver3021 No, the anti ice system on the Max planes has a problem which they must fix before they certify the 7 and the 10.
@@camhusmj38 No, they have fixed the anti Ice system a couple of months ago. Thats why production has restarted and planes are being delivered. The MAX 7 and 10 have the anti ice fixed!
😂I won’t fly Pegasus Airlines no more. Sounds like Boeing is giving MASSIVE DISCOUNTS to keep its plants running
Boeing 737 Max? HUGE mistake!
Never, ever futur flight in that crap.
It all comes in cycles. Airbus has its own issues as well. Why it continues to swing back and forth.
Big mistake, given Max troubles history. Should have ordered the C-919 with better quality, more advanced and much lower price.
YESSSSS ANOTHER W FOR THE GREATEST AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURER
@@TheShowblox greatest door remover in the industry!
… OF SHEISTY AIRPLANES”
You must be working for them! 😱😰
A giant closing sale from Boeing? Very much possible! 😂
It's incredible that there are still airlines buying this product.
I don't fly 737s, so it seems I will never fly Pegasus.
Why dont you?
Because it's uncomfortable and narrow
@@joshafc41 lol
@@nickolliver3021Because 737's are death traps.
@@nickolliver3021 Because Boeing should have replaced the 737 in the 90s after seeing Airbus A320. Instead they just decided to keep stretching the life of an old analogue aircraft.
And you know why they’ve pulled it out? Because they were Boeing.
See what they’ve done with one of the most iconic brand of the last century.
I don’t fly them, because of two reasons:
- I have modern and safer alternatives
- Out of principle. I do not support products, brands or countries with enough number of policies I do not agree with.
In this case, it’s just the 737 the only Boeing aircraft without EICAS. I still believe in the brand despite of everything. The brand isn’t just the board of directors.
Good choice,,,,gotta keep Boeing in the game
I thought Ryanair had about 300 of these on order
Did they not swap some of these for -8 and -9
@@camhusmj38 no
@camhusmj38 no
Bargain basement givaway prices I bet. Who in their right mind orders 737s especially ones not even certified yet. They could have got brand new modern Embraer sooner and on time.
Amazed in South Africa
While we may never know the sweeteners in the contract, I would also suspect a great deal.
As for the Embraer, as great as it may be, it isn't anywhere near large enough to compete with the MAX10, or the A321. Now, if Embraer were as good at changing the fuselage diameter as they are at sizing their wings, we could see what the market needs, the end of the current duopoly.
Primitive technology for an outdated aircraft. In this time and age, the crew still needs to arm the girt bar manually. No power assists to the door and for ditching its a separate device. Boeing is outdated.
They still believe...
Good! Gettem back in the saddle. Improve procedures, make money again and play a key role , together with Airbus and aEmbraer.
From my own experience Pegasus did operate B757 in the past as well. I flying on this type some years back. So it is not only the B373-800 which is known to Pegasus as a Boeing aircraft.
they never operate 757. they have only 737-400 and 737-800
@@brekobrek Well, I'm quite sure that I was sitting in an B757 from Frankfurt to Istanbul on at least one of the legs. Would it be possible that this was a code share flight or a 3rd party airline servicing those days ? I had been in the 2000s often on Delta-B757 between FRA and JFK (DL107) so I'm quite confident it was a B757 on the Pegasus flight.
2049 EDD
Warehouse sales
Chancers
For delivery 2079😂
By golly they must have got them cheap. Boeing will never make a profit this way. It's like a fire sale, but what else can Boeing do but give aircrat away. It's pure desperation to stop it collapsing. (satire)
Well thats another airline I won't be flying with.
good. more room for the rest of us
@@timhickok6509condolences
Well the wind is beginning to turn..reality..the American plane maker will rise again..
Rellay didn't think anyone buying the max plane
Boeing needs to show confidence, and PGS got an insanely good deal. Maybe below cost.
It is necessary to build this plane.
737 MAX has issues, specifically MCAS and the Alaska Air door issues. Isn't it? Why are so many orders booked after knowing that?
Are all those issues fixed?
In all probability, yes. It is uncommon but sadly not unusual for an aircraft to suffer serious safety issues early in its life, These attract huge publicity (and rightly so) but the long-term effect is a concentrated effort to improve it, usually with good results. Think of the Lockheed Electra, the Comet, and the DC-10 - all had a series of well-publicised crashes, and in each case there was a major effort to fix the problems, followed by many years of safe and effective commercial service.
Yes these issues have been fixed thats why airlines are still ordering these planes. MCAS is fixed. Plug door has been fixed. Cracks in airbus are fixed and so on
@@juneabbey9538 True. Thanks for letting me know. Hopefully no more MAX crashes, due to MCAS or otherwise.
@@nickolliver3021 Thanks for letting me know.
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The 200,orders of Boeing Max 10 from Pegasus sound amazing,but Max variant are also not so trusted model,as it has safety issues that haven't been resolved satisfactorily...!
Further more Boeing has become inconsistent in copping up with timely deliveries...! As has been the case with 787 Dreamliners....