@@anthonyvigil7567 Jimmy was one of my favorite characters at first but Michael Pitt's performance became too wooden as his time on the series went on. It felt like either he or the writers stopped trying to develop the character or he stopped caring. Based on how the rest of the main cast characters developed over the series I'm inclined to believe it was the latter.
@@mastod0n1 that’s kinda the point though, he says repeatedly that he’d set a moral line, then crossed it. First time he killed a man he vomited for two days. He was a zombie walking, there was no development: he threw heavy into a world with an in, and died.
The actor was a piece of shit. They couldnt even get him to remember simple lines, would have to reshoot the same scenes a lot. He came in coked up constantly, IF he came in. Anyway it's a shame but he turned a good opportunity into a reason to fuck his life up.
I think the big indicator that he saw it coming was the fact he moved his knife from his boot to the back of his belt prior to leaving. He always kept that knife in his boot
I like that the statue he is standing in front of depicts Temperance, which is not a person or a figure, but rather a virtue, or something to live by. Temperance means to be calm, patient, self-controlled, to take the middle road. Jimmy often tries to demonstrate temperance by not resorting to violence as quickly as others; he prefers to talk civilly, rather than threaten. He only uses violence if he has no other choice.
Great comment, 👍 thanks 😊 👍 🙏 😀Actually love love this show, and I love the Arnold Rothstein character. HE to my embodies this virtue. But he still had to let his dioynusian impulses ie gambling. Well anyway, I was confronted with a situation where I had to display temperance, and I passed with flying colors.
Jimmy was an extremely clever guy. He had been at an ivy league uni before signing up for the war. He was basically damaged goods after that and could'nt do anything else other than be a gangster.
Imagine just how many ruthless gangsters and psychopaths both of the wars produced...not to mention good old plane people who couldn't find peace after coming back home. Tragic
I think what is implied about Jimmy is that he was empathetic but during the war became desensitised to killing and death. He then uses this to his advantage to get ahead in the cold-blooded criminal world.
Because the card game was taking place in this other mobsters territory, and he wasn't getting a cut of the money it produced. That's why his goons went after Jimmy. I guess perhaps they didn't realize he wasn't one of Rothstein's men.
I’ve always thought the same but it’s the implication of his actions in the war that interest me especially after the lil snippet of him going over the top in his minds eye as he died
Ahh man, how many times would you have to practice that move to get it down swiftly. He killed those two so seamlessly and smooth, no hesitation and total commitment to the kill. That was awesome.
james darmody I'm the asshole who responds to a six year old comment. It wasn't so much smooth and seamless as it was seizing the initiative with sheer aggression and violence of action. These guys weren't hardened killers or focused professionals. It never crossed their mind someone would buck with a gun pointed at them. They'd never run into a wolf before. To a seasoned eye, it's easy to spot someone who has a weapon to use as a violent threat vs someone who is a violent threat and has a weapon. That's what a lot of people don't realize about veterans or people with a history of violence, they're not gonna fight straight up and toe to toe for pride. They're looking to devastate and kill. Jimmy saw an opportunity and jumped on it. Separate the targets, small talk and confusion to break focus then move. Neutralize the gun first and foremost. The rest will come together as you have the momentum, initiative, weapon and dominant physical position.
@@TheStarkman123 Well no shit it isn’t. The fact that it isn’t real doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be examined in depth. When you watch a movie or tv show, are you constantly making sure to remind yourself that none of it’s real? Because that sounds like it sucks.
Notice how at the beginning of the video jimmy has the knife in the same foot area that he told the guy to look in before he stabbed his partner? Then he puts the knife in his right hand back pocket...where the armed guy couldn't see it when he pulled his coat back...It's as if he knew this was going to happen...
Of course he knew it would happen. He planned for it to happen. He purposefully cashed out so they would see his big winnings. Then he moves the knife. It was all setup by him.
@bigJ09z It was creepy wasn't it? Like he was never meant to make it back from the trenches, he was an abomination of sorts when he came home. Was very at piece to die right then and there. :)
Jimmy was a good example also of wasted potential. He had been to an ivy league uni (Princeton) and was destined for great things, and was clever, handsome and charming. All the traits required for success in life. Btw, you mentioned psychopathy and sociopathy in your original post, whats the main difference between the two? It seems to me so often that they almost seem one and the same.
@ViceCityVacation Well I know people like Jimmy he was a cool character but you have to admit he was sociopathic. But yeah that whole scene was unnerving not because Nucky killed him but because Jimmy was so damn calm about it. Honestly if Jimmy had wanted to keep living he could have likely killed all of them if he so pleased. As Harrow would have sniped a few heads so to speak but despite him being dead I see his shadow still haunting the series and Nucky.
I know this comment is almost a decade old, but it stuns me how you saw Jimmy as a sociopath. Jimmy was very clearly a very caring man, just emotionally stunted from his trauma.
@@ShaneusSnake In a vacuum that's absolutely correct, but when he came back from war he was clearly emotive and empathetic. Look at nearly any of his scenes with Richard Harrow when they're not killing people... Okay, I know how that sounds, I'm not saying he's remotely a good person. I'm saying he's not a sociopath.
@@Delightfully_Bitchy he is complex and strong of character too. He is an awesome character as a result. Wish they could have extended Jimmy’s arc one more season.
@ViceCityVacation Yeah that's the sense I got when Nucky shot him he wasn't at all emotional about it. He went to his death but he was already dead emotionally so really Nucky killed a shell of the boy he raised. To be honest what he says in his final scene is creepy
The only thing that doesn't make sense about this great scene is why the dude who was checking his boot was so limp and encouraging. Why does he just go limp and let Jimmy put him face down in the fountain like that? It's like he's already been wounded or something but he hasn't, he was just kneeling down to check his boot.
Jimmy hit the guy checking his boot with the butt of the knife before slashing the other guy across the neck. Jimmy's knife had a special butt that could cause a lot of damage to someone, he called it a skullcrusher. The knife itself was called a trench knife
@SilasWolfe What did Jimmy plan to gain from this? Personally, nothing. However, the move did benefit his two new pals, Lucky and Lansky. He did them a favour (though it did cause those two a bit of trouble later on).
Think he was basically messed up after the war, and he turned into a total thug. Plus he had had a pretty screwed up life in general up til that point.
Ohhhh man you hit the nail on the head....forget what he saw & did in the war, his home life was FUCKED :( poor kid never had a chance. Sad thing is, there are millions of Jimmys in the real world & you can understand sometimes why they do fucked up things
Interesting.. when Jimmy slashes the guys throat he does the body animation as if he's slicing from right to left, but in the next shot he actually cuts LEFT to right. Complete flip..
....reason that they are NOT mentally competent to stand trial & therefore are deemed "Insane" and sent to an Asylum instead of prison. But....some mass killers & serial killers (who plan their deeds well in advance) are sometimes, even before deemed psychotic by medical examiners, deemed the same by the courts and presiding judges & juries. So, while there is a definite definition, it's always being misused or tweaked for gain of some kind. We had a mass murderer here in Oz (in TAS) back in....
....the 90's, who lived with his family, was proved mentally unstable by doctors even before the event, had easy access to family stashed firearms & just snapped one day & went on a killing spree. He killed 35 & wounded 21. He stood trial and pleaded guilty (his plea was "NOT") on grounds of competency, but the act itself was determined by court ordered doctors as a "fit or episode of psychotic violence" steaming from an awkward social & family life & upbringing. He was also deemed mentally....
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That Savage automatic pistol would have been extremely high tech for the time, Masseria's man had excellent taste in firearms.
A lot of good that did them...
True, but it’s still a nice gun.
never as reliable as the colt though and calibre mattered then.
@@jediknight129 when it jams your damn
The insane profitability of bootlegging meant that criminals could afford high tech military equipment that was designed for WW1.
This is why jimmy was a fan favorite he was ruthless and killed so many dudes and only died because he wanted to
Johnny Olden and Michael Pitt was hard to work with
@@anthonyvigil7567 Jimmy was one of my favorite characters at first but Michael Pitt's performance became too wooden as his time on the series went on. It felt like either he or the writers stopped trying to develop the character or he stopped caring. Based on how the rest of the main cast characters developed over the series I'm inclined to believe it was the latter.
he died in the trench
@@mastod0n1 that’s kinda the point though, he says repeatedly that he’d set a moral line, then crossed it. First time he killed a man he vomited for two days. He was a zombie walking, there was no development: he threw heavy into a world with an in, and died.
The actor was a piece of shit. They couldnt even get him to remember simple lines, would have to reshoot the same scenes a lot. He came in coked up constantly, IF he came in.
Anyway it's a shame but he turned a good opportunity into a reason to fuck his life up.
No doubt Jimmy was expecting to be robbed so he seemed to select the temperance statue as good a place as any to deal with the situation.
I think the big indicator that he saw it coming was the fact he moved his knife from his boot to the back of his belt prior to leaving. He always kept that knife in his boot
How he stabbed the first dude was just so masterful, you didn't even see it. Looks like he didn't even care about getting his gun back.
He didn't stab him. He cracked him in the head with the skull crusher on his knife.
@@CoreyT127 he stabbed him
@@CoreyT127 nah thats only for crackin walnuts
The gun was only for courtesy quick deaths for his poor victims.
Leon would have been proud
I like that the statue he is standing in front of depicts Temperance, which is not a person or a figure, but rather a virtue, or something to live by. Temperance means to be calm, patient, self-controlled, to take the middle road. Jimmy often tries to demonstrate temperance by not resorting to violence as quickly as others; he prefers to talk civilly, rather than threaten. He only uses violence if he has no other choice.
Good spot.
Great comment, 👍 thanks 😊 👍 🙏 😀Actually love love this show, and I love the Arnold Rothstein character. HE to my embodies this virtue. But he still had to let his dioynusian impulses ie gambling. Well anyway, I was confronted with a situation where I had to display temperance, and I passed with flying colors.
Thus to lose ones temper
Except for the guy he shot in the head for "mouthing off"
Also the prohibition movement was championed by the womens temperance league
Jimmy was an extremely clever guy. He had been at an ivy league uni before signing up for the war. He was basically damaged goods after that and could'nt do anything else other than be a gangster.
Imagine just how many ruthless gangsters and psychopaths both of the wars produced...not to mention good old plane people who couldn't find peace after coming back home. Tragic
Crazy times
Jimmy should of stay as a enforcer he might of stayed alive longer that way
Did he actually attend Princeton or was it simply that was accepted and before school started he went to the war? I never was clear on that.
@@patrick4662 he was at Princeton and dropped out to enlist.
one of the best death-scenes yet!
How about now 10 years on?🤡
The man checking his boot gets hit with the skull crusher part of his knife at the bottom of the handle.
That was for crackin walnuts
Jimmy Like "It's Just Another Day The Office".
I think what is implied about Jimmy is that he was empathetic but during the war became desensitised to killing and death. He then uses this to his advantage to get ahead in the cold-blooded criminal world.
Thanks Captain Obvious
The coolest part is how he rinses the blade in the fountain
When a man says he has no beef with massaria, leave him alone
Because the card game was taking place in this other mobsters territory, and he wasn't getting a cut of the money it produced. That's why his goons went after Jimmy. I guess perhaps they didn't realize he wasn't one of Rothstein's men.
My favorite scene. His boys came across the wrong person.
Kinda wish we got to see more of the gnar shit he did during the war
I’ve always thought the same but it’s the implication of his actions in the war that interest me especially after the lil snippet of him going over the top in his minds eye as he died
Great show. It’s time to rewatch it
God he’s so smooth the way he dips his hand in fountain to wash blood off knife and hand
We will miss you, James.
Ahh man, how many times would you have to practice that move to get it down swiftly. He killed those two so seamlessly and smooth, no hesitation and total commitment to the kill. That was awesome.
james darmody
I'm the asshole who responds to a six year old comment.
It wasn't so much smooth and seamless as it was seizing the initiative with sheer aggression and violence of action.
These guys weren't hardened killers or focused professionals. It never crossed their mind someone would buck with a gun pointed at them.
They'd never run into a wolf before.
To a seasoned eye, it's easy to spot someone who has a weapon to use as a violent threat vs someone who is a violent threat and has a weapon.
That's what a lot of people don't realize about veterans or people with a history of violence, they're not gonna fight straight up and toe to toe for pride. They're looking to devastate and kill.
Jimmy saw an opportunity and jumped on it.
Separate the targets, small talk and confusion to break focus then move. Neutralize the gun first and foremost. The rest will come together as you have the momentum, initiative, weapon and dominant physical position.
Dude, it's a TV show....
@@TheStarkman123And?
@@FMJ762 and it's not real?
@@TheStarkman123 Well no shit it isn’t. The fact that it isn’t real doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be examined in depth. When you watch a movie or tv show, are you constantly making sure to remind yourself that none of it’s real? Because that sounds like it sucks.
lol, every time I c this it reminds of the line, "whys every dago gotta be dumb as fuck?"
1:30 Darmody's like: Are you kidding me? This guy...
Notice how at the beginning of the video jimmy has the knife in the same foot area that he told the guy to look in before he stabbed his partner? Then he puts the knife in his right hand back pocket...where the armed guy couldn't see it when he pulled his coat back...It's as if he knew this was going to happen...
New York. And at the very least, been in a situation similar before.
He's in newyork, he was ready for the fuckory
Of course he knew it would happen. He planned for it to happen. He purposefully cashed out so they would see his big winnings. Then he moves the knife. It was all setup by him.
Favorite scene of all time. No doubt about it.
Certainly my favorite "Jimmy in action" scene, at least.
I remember my first time in ny.
How long did it take for the guy to come?
Jimmy was a bad ass !!!
Isn't that just like a wop, brings a gun to a knifefight.
If he stayed in Chicago it would’ve been a lot more epic when nucky called for capones help
The casual way he rinses his hand walking away wow
It's a cutthroat business???!!!
@bigJ09z It was creepy wasn't it? Like he was never meant to make it back from the trenches, he was an abomination of sorts when he came home. Was very at piece to die right then and there. :)
"Jimmy just doesn't snap, explode" - Cept for when he got drunk and threw someone off a balcony for no good reason...
What episode was this?!
@@treynelson4946 he threw mickey off the balcony because mickey said he should not mess with manny.
Jimmy was a good example also of wasted potential. He had been to an ivy league uni (Princeton) and was destined for great things, and was clever, handsome and charming. All the traits required for success in life. Btw, you mentioned psychopathy and sociopathy in your original post, whats the main difference between the two? It seems to me so often that they almost seem one and the same.
@ViceCityVacation Well I know people like Jimmy he was a cool character but you have to admit he was sociopathic. But yeah that whole scene was unnerving not because Nucky killed him but because Jimmy was so damn calm about it. Honestly if Jimmy had wanted to keep living he could have likely killed all of them if he so pleased. As Harrow would have sniped a few heads so to speak but despite him being dead I see his shadow still haunting the series and Nucky.
I know this comment is almost a decade old, but it stuns me how you saw Jimmy as a sociopath. Jimmy was very clearly a very caring man, just emotionally stunted from his trauma.
People can become sociopathic after trauma like PTSD from war, incest, and growing up in a toxic environment.
@@ShaneusSnake In a vacuum that's absolutely correct, but when he came back from war he was clearly emotive and empathetic. Look at nearly any of his scenes with Richard Harrow when they're not killing people... Okay, I know how that sounds, I'm not saying he's remotely a good person. I'm saying he's not a sociopath.
@@Delightfully_Bitchy he is complex and strong of character too. He is an awesome character as a result. Wish they could have extended Jimmy’s arc one more season.
That dude thought he was so cool with his little peashooter pistol whipping Jimmy. He learned mad quick that was a mistake..
@ViceCityVacation Yeah that's the sense I got when Nucky shot him he wasn't at all emotional about it. He went to his death but he was already dead emotionally so really Nucky killed a shell of the boy he raised. To be honest what he says in his final scene is creepy
Yes, love this scene. Dont fuck with Jimmy.
Thats gotta be the worst way to go man. Holy shit that or being set on fire but something about a throat slit that just makes me fucking cringe.
they activated bros ptsd oof
One of the best doublekills in TV history. Only maybe the one from Gray worm was better.
I wonder if jimmy fought with the enemy hand to hand in the trenches ?
Where there a lot of hand to hand combat in the trenches ?
Fatality, Flawless Victory
I wonder if he did any window shopping or had the chop at Keen's?
I would they get so clothes knowing dangerous he is
"I died in the trench years ago."
I’ve seen someone get their throat cut before, that guy would either be fighting or flailing, def wouldn’t just be laying there bleeding lol
did that guy at 1:03 say give us the jack?
And that's why I always carry a band-aid in my wallet.
Nice
Thank you.
Jimmy was too smart for his own good.
Ah I see. What a good soul Jimmy is.
The only thing that doesn't make sense about this great scene is why the dude who was checking his boot was so limp and encouraging. Why does he just go limp and let Jimmy put him face down in the fountain like that? It's like he's already been wounded or something but he hasn't, he was just kneeling down to check his boot.
Jimmy hit the guy checking his boot with the butt of the knife before slashing the other guy across the neck. Jimmy's knife had a special butt that could cause a lot of damage to someone, he called it a skullcrusher. The knife itself was called a trench knife
Jimmy would've been perfect in Murder Inc
Or because they were the equivalent of stick up kids today. They saw someone leave a casino.. so obviously he had money.
Smooth
damn that was badass move.
Such a fucking badass guy !!
Does sociopath mean Jimmy cared about nobody but himself or is that something similar?
Hed make a good live action Leon S Kennedy.
I wonder if Tony Egg's father was in the city that night.
Tony Egg??? Tony B!!
@SilasWolfe What did Jimmy plan to gain from this? Personally, nothing. However, the move did benefit his two new pals, Lucky and Lansky. He did them a favour (though it did cause those two a bit of trouble later on).
Surax you do realize they were robbing him and maybe going to kill him. He gained life
I'm looking for a coat similar to James Darmody's, where can I find one? Also anyone know the name of the coat he's specifically wearing?
That was sick.
Think he was basically messed up after the war, and he turned into a total thug. Plus he had had a pretty screwed up life in general up til that point.
people think it was the war... but it was really when he banged his mom
Meanwhile, take that exact same character, plunk him down the middle of 1965 Vietnam, and somehow, he'd be the same type of killing machine! 🤣🇵🇷🇺🇸🦂🗽📽😎
@Lantho650 which one, the guy holding the gun or the one who checks jimmy's boot?
TO THE LOST!!!
Well....there was that. Oops
im confused, jimmy came from the card game right? then these 2 goons show up, why? can any1 explain plz
First what happened and then he because after that's when he saw him
I always thought they killed Jimmy off way too son but that's just my opinion 🤷♂️
Ohhhh man you hit the nail on the head....forget what he saw & did in the war, his home life was FUCKED :( poor kid never had a chance. Sad thing is, there are millions of Jimmys in the real world & you can understand sometimes why they do fucked up things
Why are you speaking in the 3rd person?
Interesting.. when Jimmy slashes the guys throat he does the body animation as if he's slicing from right to left, but in the next shot he actually cuts LEFT to right.
Complete flip..
oh yeah, spoilers from TWO seasons ago. -_-
jimmy was a fucking boss sucks they killed him
@PersonalityDeficit87 Sociopaths are the way they are because of their environment. So yeah to war is probably what did the damafe
....reason that they are NOT mentally competent to stand trial & therefore are deemed "Insane" and sent to an Asylum instead of prison. But....some mass killers & serial killers (who plan their deeds well in advance) are sometimes, even before deemed psychotic by medical examiners, deemed the same by the courts and presiding judges & juries. So, while there is a definite definition, it's always being misused or tweaked for gain of some kind. We had a mass murderer here in Oz (in TAS) back in....
He'd make a sick Joker
....the 90's, who lived with his family, was proved mentally unstable by doctors even before the event, had easy access to family stashed firearms & just snapped one day & went on a killing spree. He killed 35 & wounded 21. He stood trial and pleaded guilty (his plea was "NOT") on grounds of competency, but the act itself was determined by court ordered doctors as a "fit or episode of psychotic violence" steaming from an awkward social & family life & upbringing. He was also deemed mentally....
If you think this could happen, stop playing Xbox.