We know he's a talent, we know he's good with the ball in his hands. Does going the Tyrell Pryor route seem feasible for him? Could go the WR route if he wants to stay in the league.
bears go get jim...then ask who he wants for qb that simple...if he dont want caleb.. easy.. get Jr at 1, then use second first round and next years to go back up and get penix.. booom best wr duo in nfl or close to it
Lesean McCoy be lying like a mfer ... The bears won 3 games last year and they were all at the beginning of the season... This guy always lies... Justin Fields is getting better... Why does this guy have to lie to make a point
Shady is the same one who said CJ Stroud won’t be good because no Ohio State QB has ever been successful in the NFL. Now he’s saying Bears missed out on a CJ Stroud 😂
The Media consensus was Young. Now the media wants to say the Bears missed out on Stroud. They have no accountability, Tanenbaum was the Worst. He said Bryce was #1, the Bears should pick up Bryce... and Bryce is comparable to "ZACH WILSON"
CJ Stroud is the only OSU player to pass for over 2500 yards in a NFL season. He's thrown 21 TDs and that's the all time highest for an OSU player. That's significant because they have had 24 QBs drafted, 5 in the first round a few more in the first 3 rounds. And they have all been terrible except CJ. That's a 4% success rate because the other 23 have been absolutely terrible. No one is betting with 4% odds. CJ is an outlier for OSU.
James Jones saved this show. Both Acho and Joe are afraid to debate short neck short temper Shady. James be checking them or em and he ain’t afraid to speak the fact.
The Bears have plenty of pieces on the team right now. They have a number 1 receiver, top 7 TE, top 12 offensive line and a top 10 defense. They also have cap space next year and alot of draft picks. Bears should be a playoff team this year but Fields choked 3 games away.
Exactly and let's be honest, he and Justin to me on the same level tbh Execpt for the one playoff win. He has not been good this year really and fields has outplayed him. Difference is perception honestly
I’m old enough to remember when Vinny Testaverde was going to be a once in a lifetime quarterback. Trade for picks, and let some other team give you more picks than they should for Caleb Williams.
@@savvonweston4915gtfoh!! Out played in how ? By running the ball ??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Trevors the better passer with the better numbers and the playoff and division title. Sit down ma’am . Nakers love fields because he black oh and by the way , I’m black.
*Dude, Caleb Williams is better at his position than Marvin Harrison Jr is at his, you clueless fans are amazing. You never draft a WR over a QB unless that QB is not a top 5 draft pick and the WR is the greatest Receiver since Jerry Rice played at Mississippi Valley State.*
Great discussion...but there is a difference between this year and last as to the Chicago Bears...last year they EARNED the #1 pick overall based on their record...this year they HAVE the #1 pick overall because the Panthers EARNED it for them...the Bears record improved because they added talent around Fields and Fields showed he has talent...we live in an environment where we want everything yesterday...I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan...when the Cowboys drafted Aikman, they won one game, the second year they won three games...the third year they won a playoff game...then went on to win back-to-back Super Bowls and three Lombardi trophies in four years...if Jimmy hadn't left they would have won five or six Championships with the core of that team...all that time they did not move off of Aikman, but continued to use draft picks to build around him...I personally believe the Bears should trade 1.1 for picks and players that will improve the overall team...Super Bowls are won by TEAMS, not QBs...Mahomes stepped into a TEAM that was already built, Hurts stepped into a TEAM that was already built...Terry Bradshaw stepped into a TEAM that was built around him...Montana stepped into a TEAM that was built around him...these are organizations that understood that TEAMS built the right way win multiple championships, not QBs...Brady is the poster child for this approach...take a guy who is good, and allow him the time and space to develop into greatness because the overall team was great...Marino was a great QB...never won a Championship...Elway was great, but didn't win a Championship till the twilight of his career...the Bears are building a strong, young nucleus of talent...if they could get two 1st round picks and a player worth a 1st round pick for 1.1, they should do it in a heartbeat...if the picks don't pan out, that's on the talent evaluators...Caleb will sell tickets, but will stunt the growth the Bears currently have going...imo.
They have the number 1 pick not because of their record it’s because of the team that traded up for a qb as number 1. They went from drafting 1st to 10th the team got better
@@reginaldyourgodbrotha3724 the problem is everyone expects it to be a one year turn around in the nfl. And it’s literally not the bengals didn’t get to what they are over night it actually took Jamar chase draft class to put them over the top
@@Kentuckybearsfanthe team that traded for the number one pick was drafting 9th last year… they drafted the consensus 1st overall pick and became the worst team in the league. Fields is good enough to win u games so why not build around that instead of starting over
Totally agree with keeping JF1! Bears get MHJ and trade #1 pick for max equity. Additionally we seek Jim H as our new HC. This combo elevates the Bears to winning their division and a playoff win or two in 2024
@@laynepuls1245Exactly, unless you're trading him to Washington there's no guarantee he'll still be there. And you already have a true #1 WR in DJ Moore, give me the QB over the WR. There are always good receivers in the draft that don't have to be on the level of Harrison Jr.
Receivers are typically easy to find later in the draft. The guy the Rams got in the 5th, Puka Nakua, was phenomenal in the playoffs this year. In today's NFL you absolutely have to nail the quarterback position or you're not in the conversation I don't care how many #1 receivers you have.
@@justinbeynon7980Yeah they're drafted almost every year now. It's not about whether Fields is good or not but more so about getting a guy that's better because your already have a great WR. We just saw CJ Stroud with the 2nd worst team the year before get in the playoffs without a true #1 WR. Plus you're starting the clock over on paying a franchise QB which Fields isn't that right now. If he has one good year he's gonna be looking to making $40M plus a year. I don't even think Jalen Hurts is an elite QB but he's paid like one.
@@rockjm9876543210 Love affair ? Or prspective ? here are the stats of some QB’s that were "bad" in their 3r year: 1 - Eli Manning = 16 games 57.7% com 3244 24TD 18INT rate 77.0. 2 - Big Ben = 15 games 59.7% com 3513 18TD 23INT rate 75.4. 3 - Drew Brees = 11 games 57.6% com 2108 11TD 15INT rate 67.5. 4 - Brett Favre = 16 games 60.9% com 3303 19TD 24INT rate 72.2. 5 - Now, Justin Fields = 12 games - 61% - 2.414 - 16TD 9INT - rate 85.8. Is is love for Fields, or simple learning form the past, should any of those names be familiar to you ?
In the last 23 years. 4-5 number 1 overall QBs have lived up to the hype. Caleb Williams is a higher risk gamble than 4 first rounders if you’re the Bears.
Anyone who is a bears fan knows this franchise was completely overhauled when Ryan Poles became the GM. Year 1 he got rid of all the bad contracts. We knew the bears were going to be bad. Year 2, is find out what we have. We see we lost 3 games in the 4th quarter. We should be a 10+ win team, a playoff team if we didn't drop those game. You cannot look at win/loss to determine JF1 value. This team was designed to lose in year 1. Stick to the plan, build the team right, give JF1 weapons.
Like Jones said if everyone is so gassed up about Williams "best QB prospect" blah blah blah u need to push for 3 firsts. I think magic and the commanders may do that. Get 3 firsts and 2 seconds and u can load that team with talent. They'd have 4 picks in the top 45 this year. That can turn any franchise around in a hurry. U get bowers or Harrison with Washington's pick and the best tackle available with their own. Thar alone is a huge upgrade.
Thank you! If I had known you said this, I wouldn't have even needed my post! But you are completely correct. Shady McCoy and ole girl don't know what they are talking about
@@MrDcb215 historically we’ve seen a move up one spot cost a 2 3rds and a 4th(2018), a move up 4 spots cost 2 1st and a 2nd(2012), a move up 6 spots cost a 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th(2016). That’s not even taking into account 2023 panthers giving dj moore, a 1st, and 2 2nd to move up 8 spots. None of those teams drafted a generational QB, those trades were for Mitch Trubisky, RGIII, Carson Wentz, and Bryce Young. >50% of 1st rd QBs over the past 10 year are starters. And the jury is still out on Pickett, Baker and Danny Dimes for having a starting role next season. The Pats are gonna have a new coach next season and with a new coach comes a QB they are tied to. Look at the Texans last year, splashed going after C.J., they traded up for Anderson at 3. Commanders having new ownership will want their face of the franchise. Caleb William being “generational” will drive the price. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a move from 3 to 1 go for a 25 1st and a 4th. “Generational” is used to much, Clowney was called “generational” at one point
Has it ever occurred to people that there's something more structurally wrong with the Bears organization, especially in coaching, that has resulted in Fields having an underwhelming career in the NFL and that could cause Caleb Williams to have the same? I get that Caleb could absolutely look good in the league, but that's only if he has the coaching that develops his talent to succeed. Patrick Mahomes almost got drafted by the Bears and it would have been a disaster, but because he went to Andy Reid, he was able to develop his skills and IQ properly and now he has the accolades. That's not to say Fields shouldn't be traded, but personally if I were Ryan Poles, I'd look more to acquiring a strong offensive coordinator and, more importantly, a star receiver like Marvin Harrison with that first overall pick so that Fields can be given a true chance to compete in the division.
I completely agree. The Bears have messed up every single QB they've drafted for as long as I can remember. And I keep going back to what Jim McMahon - the last Bears QB to win a Super Bowl - said about his former team: "this is where QBs go to die". I don't care how special Caleb is. No way is he overcoming the curse of that organization
It's not just about developing QBs, but it's also that the Bears org historically has not placed enough importance on the QB position. We know that hitting on picks, let alone QBs, is a crapshoot and extremely unpredictable. The lower the picks are, the harder it is to hit on picks. Even though the Bears played many QBs in recent history, how many of them were first round picks? On the top of my head, there are 6 QBs since Jim Mcmahon (Jim Harbaugh, Cade McNown, Rex Grossman, Jay Cutler, Mitchell Trubisky, and Justin Fields). How many of these are within the top 10 picks? 2 (Mitchell Trubisky and Justin Fields), which all came in the past decade. That is hardly large enough sample size to make any good conclusion except that the Bears org was archaic in thinking about how to play offense and did not value the QB as much as they should. That's also in addition that the Bears org often saddle QB choices made by the previous administration for the upcoming one. For example, want to draft a QB in 2021? Don't allow Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy to draft one just to give them a lame duck year. Either fire them and let the new administration draft one or give them a few more years to work their QB out. Same for Trubisky - don't saddle Trubisky on Matt Nagy when it seems clear as day that Nagy never fully believed in Trubisky. Regarding QBs, it seems like the organization is never on the same page. Either the GM believes in that QB and the coach doesn't or the coach believes in that QB and the GM doesn't or neither the GM and coach believe in that QB, but was just saddled with him from the previous administration. That is hardly a recipe of success.
ok, this organization did go to the Superbowl in 2007 with the same defensive they are running right now. this defense could be dominant next year and JF1 is the better QB we went to the Super Bowl with so what do you say. @@musume7723
I never want to hear one word from anyone about the Bears never having a franchise QB from anyone. Changing QBs and coaches every 3 to 5 years is not a way to build a winning team. It's just another 5 years of rebuilding the team, again, and again, and again, and again.
NOBODY in today's NFL would wait 5 years to decide whether a QB is franchise or not. If you still have questions after three years, then you already have your answer.
Would you rather build a strong team like SF and just need a solid QB or would you rather have a team that like Buf who lean on the QB and if it doesn't work out you are back at the bottom? Personally, I would go with the former and trade the pick to get a cache of picks and build.
@@winstonsyme5899 I 100% agree as well, he’s a great QB. He doesn’t make many mistakes, even though he doesn’t have the biggest arm or the most athletic.
I hate this argument bc they aren’t adding in that the dudes been in the league with terrible coaches a terrible roster a terrible wr core and everything and he’s 3 years in and has had 5 different offensive playcallers while not having a single target to throw to his first two years in Chicago he looks great rn he’s starting to show promise and if they put marv jr on the other side of dj moore this team likely wins the division and im saying this as a packers fan man trade back and pay him he’s worth it
They should keep Fields and draft Harrison and an Elite OL to protect him Unless someone team offers multiple #1 picks for future drafts and picks in this years draft
Keep him, thats not your #1 pick, you are the 10th pick after being 1st last year, thats called improvement. Get him more weapons and he's good. He had better season in college than Williams
@veezouptown4148 Debo is a number 1 receiver. The 49ers literally were getting offers for first round picks in exchange for him before they extended him.
I think the point that JJ was trying to make is regardless if Justin Fields stays or Caleb Williams comes in they're going to need help from other players. Bears o-line couldn't block for J Fields and so what makes you think they're going to be able to block for C Williams
Bears Oline is ranked pretty good. The stats show that Fields is responsible for a lot of those sacks. Take all the emotion out of it, and you’ll realize that Fields is not the answer.
@hunch0hussein792 I mean "guaranteed" far as experts thought for sure he was a generational talent, and I've heard actual experts say there's a good chance he busts in the wrong system
Yes, if Bears win 2 of the 3 games they were ahead of late in the game we probably are not talking about moving on from JF since this team would most likely be in the playoffs. Also, no one knows for sure how good Caleb is going to be in the NFL. All draft picks are speculation to some degree. This is why I believe if you can get more picks you should since this simply increases your odds of picking right.
I would like to see if Shady had his performance rated if he was running behind the worse offensive line in football. This is a team sport and the awful team JF played behind last year makes a difference on how you evaluate his performance. If the Bears didnt trade down last year, they would have been playing with Young or Stroud (that team would have finished dead last) with no DJ Moore, no Darnell Wright, no Gervon Dexter, and no #1 pick for 2024! I will take the results from the trade down any day!
he missed 4 games due to injury and the defense was horrible with no pass rush until they traded for sweat. the o line still isn't good as they've had issues at center all season due to injuries @@calwere
It’s almost like dammed if they take Caleb Williams and dammed if they don’t. What if they take him and he doesn’t pan out and they don’t put the requisite weapons around him, continue to build the o-line in front of him? It’s amazing how we think Chicago is going to build the best team around Caleb? They didn’t do it with Mitch Trubisky, but all of a sudden if they draft Caleb, Drake, or another Quarterback they’re going to do it right? I’ll wait on that.
@@TheSTRILLA that’s fair too, but I find it hilarious that people think the Bears are going to all of a sudden do by right by Caleb if they draft him. I hope they do for Bears fans sake but to assume they will do so is laughable in my opinion.
Why are people acting like Caleb Williams is a guaranteed success bro.. fields talent wise is one of the most if not top 3 talented players period in the league
Its a tough choice. Easily could gain multiple first round picks, load up and if JF just is average you're likely in the playoffs. Draft Caleb, have less assets, and maybe he can carry the team to the playoffs. Id probably keep JF and bet that Caleb will follow a long line of over hyped QBs that end up not delivering.
Their offensive Coordinator will be the key to upgrading and winning more games. The Bears have all the talent and can compete but if the offense isn't innovative and we're not giving opposing defenses different looks they're gonna look stale and out of place.
As a bears fan who wants them to keep fields and turn the pick into an endless amount of picks to secure the franchises future, Caleb is so talented that he will at worst be a solid starter in the nfl
@@CoC_Lord as a green bass Packers fan I think these organizations need to look at what Green Bay did with Jordan love doesn’t matter where they drafted up some people could use a year, riding the bench behind a good quarterback, to understand the system.
@@JonathanHenryspacecowboy I agree, but sitting for years doesn’t always equal success and that takes a lot of resources to gamble. Being said, I’m not opposed to drafting Caleb and keeping fields to start another year
The Bears moving on from Fields at this point would be a colossal mistake. Use the #1 overall pick and trade back to fill out the roster. Anyone who suggests using a #1 overall pick to draft a QB is not a serious analyst. Honestly, how many quarterbacks that went #1 overall have even won a Superbowl the past 20 years? There's only been 1. Peyton's first chip. That's it. In 20 years. Stafford was aquired via trade and Peyton's 2nd he was a free agent signing. Only 1 QB out of 18 picked #1 overall. The Bears would be stupid to waste that pick on Caleb Williams.
Not drafting Caleb will haunt them FOREVER if he becomes what we all think he will. If you miss on Caleb, cool you’re back where you started as the worst team. QB has proven to be the game changer (see CJ Stroud)
So tell me smart guy do you pick up Field's 5th year option when he can't even complete 60 percent of his passes and then pay him to be a 16 TD to 9 pick QB in the league?
@@randylouissaint1636 If Caleb puts up even an average year next year with the Patriots or Commanders Poles will be fired instantly. Can't pass up on a great QB in back to back drafts and keep a bust.
I'm a 🐻 fan, and I can't wait until this draft is here in April because I'm getting tired of hearing this narrative about trading Justin Fields for Caleb Williams. I want JF in Chicago, but most opinions want him gone. If Chicago trades him, I'm going to be a fan of his wherever he might go. He came into a situation with 2 different head coaches, 2 different OC, key players with high contracts sent off to other teams, no number one WR until this season and improving on his individual game during a rebuild. Caleb is coming into a really good situation, so it is what it is.
I’m not a Bears fan but I agree with this take. Fields was thrown into a horrible situation his rookie year and in year 2 it wasn’t all that much better but he did showcase his ability as a runner. This year they give him DJ Moore and he develops chemistry with Kmet, and you are seeing the results. Yes it’s happened slower than ideal but that’s the fault of the Bears more than it is Fields. If they fire Eberflus and go with an offensive coach, I could understand trading him if they get the right package from a QB needy team. Other than that though, I think they’re better off keeping him.
I'm fine with keeping eberflus as a HC, but getsy HAS TO GO. you see what he did with Aaron rogers. keep fields and build around him like every other team that has success does. josh Allen wasn't josh Allen until they traded for Diggs, Mahomes came into an established team already with a great HC, same with Hurts.@@MSF8637
@joshschmidt3841they’re not trading down and getting a haul keeping a top 4 pick to get MHJ, they fleeced car last year they’re not doing that BS to was, NE or ari
Marvin Harrison jr is the best player in this draft. The fact that the Bears can trade out for a bucket load and still take him is too good to turn down.
The importance of keeping Justin Fields in Chicago is multi-faceted. Fields has shown leadership qualities that have resonated with the team. His teammates have praised his increased leadership which is crucial for team chemistry and overall performance. On the other hand, bringing in Caleb Williams could potentially disrupt this chemistry. While Williams has shown promise in college, transitioning to the NFL is a different challenge altogether. There are instances where Williams’ actions have raised questions about potential impacts on team chemistry. Coaching has indeed been a significant issue in Chicago. The Bears have had a history of instability in their coaching staff. When the Bears switched their defensive coordinator, the defense’s performance improved. This suggests that the problem may not lie with the players, but with the coaching. If we apply the same logic to the offensive side, it’s reasonable to speculate that a change in offensive coordinator could lead to improved performance. The current offensive coordinator, Luke Getsy, has faced criticism for inconsistency and struggles to adjust in-game. A more competent offensive coordinator could potentially bring out the best in Fields and the rest of the offense, much like the defensive coordinator switch did for the defense. keeping Fields, improving the coaching staff, and maintaining team chemistry could be key to the Bears’ future success. However, these are complex issues that require careful consideration and strategic decision-making. The uncertainties in the NFL landscape further underscore the importance of making informed, logical decisions rather than banking on unproven “generational talents”. Dude has yet to play a snap in the NFl, media throws the world around every draft class with no accountability and it sickens me. They're selling a product to the masses and the new shiny toy is the ticket to the uneducated casuals.
Tough question. How many times have we heard about can't miss #1 generational talent qbs? The last ones might have been RG3 and Luck. Caleb could turn out to be another Trevor Lawrence our last so called generational talented qb. To have 4 1st round picks as opposed to 2 is so tempting. You could field a SB team with those picks alone and they would be dirt cheap.
This. The last few #1 QBs were Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield. If these QBs, only 1 does the team feel confident in their selection for the future overall and even that one the QBs health is a problem.
Shady is an RB at heart: once you're dead set on a course, you don't deviate. You can't blame the man for having left his brains in some locker room a long time ago.
I have a question, what if we trade Justin Fields for Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams performs poorly for 2 to 3 years, what’s next have another quarterback
@@gramz23 I think the bears need to keep fields what I was saying is if they draft Williams at 1 it would take more than 2-3 years to move off of him if he played poorly
@@evileyevalausI don’t think so, as a bears fan I think we are tired of these qbs getting overrated so the fact we all want fields will put a lot of pressure on this kid. He already can’t handle the media well and his backup just had 6tds in the bowl game
As a Bears fan, I love seeing the passion people have about this. It really feels like we're snakebitten at QB and if we let Justin go he will instantly be a superstar for his new team. Then if it's between Williams or Maye, whomever the Bears pick will be the wrong guy, and the other guy will be a superstar. I think most Bears fans are so sick of debating quarterbacks. We just want ANYONE to show up and be THE guy. We all want Justin to be that guy, but if you watch the games he only shows up for 2 or 3 quarters. Maybe Harrison Jr fixes that? IDK
There's no comparison. Watch the game tape, not highlights. Listen to professional scouts, ex players and analysts. Across the board, it's Caleb Williams. The decision is either: 1. Justin Fields + his contract, Marvin Harrison Jr., the 10th overall pick, and two FUTURE first 2. Caleb Williams (best prospect many analysts have said they have seen in college), Rome Odunze (elite), presumably a back half 1st for Fields, and the cap savings to buy veteran help to support the youth
they traded all the talent away his first 2 years to clear cap space (had the most $ last year) fields didn't start right away his first year and they had Nagy as his first year coach. they bring in eberflus and a new oc so that's a new system along with having no o line, no weapons on offense and trading away all their talent on defense last year. year 3 we get dj, a better o line, and the defense didn't start clicking til we traded for sweat. Dj's having a career year while fields missed 5 games (he could easily have 1600 yards and 10+TDs. Build around fields, trade the #1 for a haul, draft MHJ and beef up the o line. find a Eddie Jackson replacement and resign Jaylon johnson
He's absolutely wrong. It's harder to hit on one player (e.g. Caleb Williams) than hitting on 3 or 4 players. You may not hit on all 4, but if you hit on 2 of 4, that's 50% and not bad. But if you miss on one, that's 0% and it's horrible.
The wild card also is Ryan PAce who drafted Fields is head of player operations, also Fields was born and raised in Kennesaw,His Dad an Atlanta cop for three decades, it's the perfect trade partner.
It's tough to be successful in Chicago. Giving up on him after 3 years to this degree is crazy. I'd love to see him go to somewhere like Seattle and shine
Seattle has too many holes in the roster to trade anything away for a QB that they would have to pay $40M + next year. Atlanta is a good fit. Or the Pats if BB walks.
@@FilipinomadDenver with Sean Payton would be my first choice if I was Fields. Give me the coach that can put me in the best position to succeed. You can always go get more weapons.
@@brandondillman5841Sean Payton was losing his mind because Wilson can't effectively run a offense inside of the pocket, so what do you think he's going to do with Fields? That man would probably be in a nut house.
@@rockjm9876543210 I think Payton would like a QB like Fields. Hes a much better version of Taysom Hill, who Payton absolutely loved as a weapon. Russ’s issue is he refuses to throw over the middle of the field and when he scrambles he doesn’t actually take off and gain yards.
Fields did his job took the team from worde in the nfl to 2 games from playoff contention with two weeks to go if brice young did that everyone would eat it up
To acho’s question of it being more likely that you hit on williams or the 4 other 1st round picks, it’s more likely the other 4 hit. It’s so much easier to evaluate the other positions than qb. 1st qbs historically do not have that much success. Drafting harrison and an ot has a wayyyy higher probability of hitting
Shady don’t realize bears fans don’t feel like they missed on cj stroud or B young. The roster had so many holes that the trade was exactly what was needed. Dj Moore, Darnell Wright is an excellent RT & still own #1 this year & a 2nd rd pick next year. There’s so many options at qb this year coming out that it’s not a must Caleb Williams at #1 is a must. #1 pick can be traded for a haul & they can still grab a Pennix, Nix or Daniels & still keep Justin until that qb is ready. This show is thinking small.
These guys aside from JJ don't have a single clue. The Majority of Bears fans don't want Caleb Williams, that's just regional talking heads propping him up.
@@jamesbohm3690 there were way too many holes in the roster at the end of last year & still high hopes for Justin at that time. The way the year turned out, it’s easy to say we should’ve gotten Stroud but at the same time would Stroud have been able to overcome the OC, Darnell Mooney as his #1 & an even weaker OLine than what da bears have now? There’s no guarantees he wouldn’t have gotten ruined being in that situation.
@@Treyday5 Fields was able to right the ship once the defense started playing better. If he can get them to 7-10, Stroud easily gets them in the playoffs. Bears schedule was loaded with cupcakes and their fans exaggerate how bad the roster is to protect Justin
I think Ryan Poles has drafted pretty well considering… I don’t think Marvin Harrison is going to be a question, I don’t think Brock Bowers is going to be a question and again the Bears have drafted pretty well they haven’t missed on many guys so I’m not worried about whomever they’ve select to improve the team… But I’d much rather have three talented guys instead of one? Who cries when hismom is out in the stadium because he’s sad little boy…
Bears have not had a good Offensive Line like other teams in our division but Justin would be very good if he had the blocking offensive line just saying.
I have to wonder if these analysts are told which side they have to argue lol. They keep talking about what Fields' current record is without taking anything else into account. It's like saying Carolina should move on from Bryce Young because he hasn't won enough games like it was all on him that they aren't winning😂
Yeah they act like its madden caleb doesn't need anyone he will do it all by himself ahhhh no he still needs weapons and good ones you see mahomes no weapons and he's look average this year you give Justin one more wrs and he will look up and have nothing but great wrs on both sides nowhere to throw it but to a great wr.
An he’s still trash was even trash at Duke led the Acc in interceptions an turnovers yea the giants made the playoffs last year but he only threw 15 TD while Barkley rush for the same amount keep fields an draft MHJ
As a Lions fan honestly it would be better to keep fields and get the picks take a look no farther than the lions. If the bears do there homework on the players they would draft you would kick start the "rebuild" and the only player you would have to pay would be fields and if he doesn't work out then yes you trade him and with the team you would have in place would bring in a good qb on the free agent market. Because if they take Williams all they will end up doing is spinning the tires and say that he's a bust.
Shady doesnt watch the games. You can hear it in his talking points. Because if he watch him, you get context around his stats, and you see how he is giving defenses fits. Even the best defenses were getting tap danced on. You cant look too deep into his record in his first 2 years since the bears were tanking and tearing the team apart to rebuild. I think you can only judge him based on this season. The coach during his rookie year almost got him killed. And last year was year 2. The new coaches didn't know what to do with him and were getting him killed too until he started running half way into the season.
And oh no. The Bears passed on Mahomes. Reality check time: The is no guarantee that Mahomes would have had the same success in Chicago as he did in KC. Look at the teams. KC was a good team with Alex Smith and got the upgrade the Mahomes. He had Andy Reid, Travis Kelce. Justin had who? Different situations with different players with different coaches produce different results. If Mahomes had went to Chicago, they would have messed him over, too. Chicago is where young QBs start and end their careers.
Burrow, Mahomes, Hurts, Allen...all had solid offensive lines and good Defenses. The bears Oline has been below par forever. Theres no way, Caleb Williams comes to Chicago and improves the offense. JF1 and DJ Moore have incredible chemistry, add MHJ, improve the oline and lets see what you have.
Your right about burrows. I should have just said talent around them. The bears have been void of talent at the WR position for a long time. Serviceable maybe but talented no. DJ Moore stands alone. Draft MHJ and upgrade the line and I think JF1 takes another step.
Caleb Williams with no Jordan Addison had a bad year. Justin fields just got DJ Moore and started to build chemistry. Justin has a terrible 1st year with Nagy, no team last year and just started to build this year. His #1 last year is no where to be found this year. Give the man some credit for where they are going.
I would keep Fields sign him to a 4 yr extension bout $100 mil. Let him develop. Take that #1 pick and flip it to the highest bidder. 2 first rd these yr the others a few yrs from now. 3 first rd picks take one of them flip it to multiple later rds. Build the team the right way.
Ion think fields is terrible he just needs a better situation like Lamar had 2018-2019 someone that builds around his playstyle and the bears can’t do that for anyone even if they get Marvin harrison it’s finna be backyard football 💯 fields deserves a reset button before it’s to late. Ofc we don’t know how Caleb is gonna be but we seen what fields already does. (BTW GO BUCKYES❤️🖤)
@@aaronclay4665 Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, Mitch Trubisky, Bryce Young, MArcus MAriota, Carson Wentz, Baker Mayfield, Johnny Manzel, there have been so many of these CANT MISS guys lighting it up against 18 year olds in college. One of these guys coming out is older than Justin Fields! It's always the same trash short-term saviour-chasing franchises scrambling over them as well.
Honestly, Justin is on year 2.5 not 3 because of QB controversy in his first year. DJ Moore is having a career year. The defense has also given up some historic collapses. It would be a disappointment to not build around this talented player working with very little.
As a lions fan Fields with a good line and another weapon sounds way more promising than Caleb Williams and a tackle or the 2nd reciever taken. Fields running ability is so game changing there's no way they should give up on him already. If he gets traded to a team with solid talent he's gonna be a problem.
Their argument is so dumb. People were saying Bryce Young was incredible, and he's won 2 games. They act like Caleb Williams is going to make the bears a really good team. He's one guy. Keep Fields, build around him.
Acho's math is terrible, if I have one shot at it, it is better odds than if I have four shots at it WT Living F! I thought these guys went to college? 🤣🤣🤣
Everybody talks about what if you pass on Caleb and he goes to another team and he’s successful and Fields still hasn’t gotten better. Nobody says what if Caleb turns out to be a bust or no better than Fields and Fields becomes a superstar somewhere else.
These discussions are a joke, when, EVER has a QB Draft pick been a lock? There are more busts than "Mahomes". How many were drooling over Bryce Young? There are no guarantees.
100% with you. But it the media thrive on hyping and disparaging people thereafter. This has nothing to do with the actual value of a proven player like FIelds, or a brilliant college player like Williams.
Another Question Is Will Caleb Be Ready To Go At The NFL Level Off The Gate???I Don't Think So!!!He's Good But We've Seen Some Really Good Guys Fall At This Level!!!I'm Riding With Fields And Building Around Him,Rather Than Gamble On A College Guy That Can At Times Be Iffy!!!If I Did Go Ahead And Get Caleb He Would Have To Work For That Starting Job!!!It's All A Gamble,A Big Gamble!!!*we will see,soon enough what the bears do*Caleb In Chicago Could Be A Bust,With This Organization!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️I Think I Would Take My Chances On 3/4 Picks Over Just Getting Caleb And Going For It!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️I May Be Fired,But...Like I Said This Will Be A Really Big Gamble In This League!!!
@@malikwilliams8643 nobody arguing, just stating an opinion!!!keep believing the Caleb hype and watch him be a bust,especially in the bears organization!!!Justin can win games with the right pieces,especially in his division!!!until Caleb proves he can cut it in the nfl I will say Justin would be a better option!!!*in my opinion of coarse*but we will see huh???🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Caleb Williams ain’t built for Chicago. He gone be running to his mama to cry after every game cuz the O line client block ish and he getting sacked every play.
@jeanfourcade Don’t sell poodles short. They were bred in Germany to be water retrievers akin to Labrador or Golden retrievers, and are the second smartest breed out there. Only border collies are smarter.
9:20 But yet when James broke it down in simple terms a few weeks back on the show and said so if we just replaced Williams and fields, would they still be this bad and he brought up the BIG GAMES Williams has played in THIS season and has LOST on the college level and shady had NOTHING to say on that matter. Oh, but you want to bring in Williams but also OTHER PIECES as well. Sounds like it's not enough for either to win in Chicago with just a QB change 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
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We know he's a talent, we know he's good with the ball in his hands. Does going the Tyrell Pryor route seem feasible for him? Could go the WR route if he wants to stay in the league.
bears go get jim...then ask who he wants for qb that simple...if he dont want caleb.. easy.. get Jr at 1, then use second first round and next years to go back up and get penix.. booom best wr duo in nfl or close to it
Lesean McCoy be lying like a mfer ... The bears won 3 games last year and they were all at the beginning of the season... This guy always lies... Justin Fields is getting better... Why does this guy have to lie to make a point
Shady is the same one who said CJ Stroud won’t be good because no Ohio State QB has ever been successful in the NFL. Now he’s saying Bears missed out on a CJ Stroud 😂
And that’s a dumb take because a player came from Ohio state they can’t play
He’s an example of having played football but not really knowing football. His take is almost always wrong
Preach!
The Media consensus was Young. Now the media wants to say the Bears missed out on Stroud. They have no accountability,
Tanenbaum was the Worst. He said Bryce was #1, the Bears should pick up Bryce... and Bryce is comparable to "ZACH WILSON"
CJ Stroud is the only OSU player to pass for over 2500 yards in a NFL season. He's thrown 21 TDs and that's the all time highest for an OSU player. That's significant because they have had 24 QBs drafted, 5 in the first round a few more in the first 3 rounds. And they have all been terrible except CJ. That's a 4% success rate because the other 23 have been absolutely terrible. No one is betting with 4% odds. CJ is an outlier for OSU.
If Shady wants CW, that means JF1 is the guy Chicago should keep.
Thank you well said. 🐻⬇
Yessss!!!! Well said!! 😂
hahahahaha!!!
Exactly !💯 💯
Here Fields 2-0 and Caleb can’t throw for 200 yds
James Jones saved this show. Both Acho and Joe are afraid to debate short neck short temper Shady. James be checking them or em and he ain’t afraid to speak the fact.
They cheerleaders. JJ as well sometimes. They really need a level headed reporter on this panel that is able to call them on their Pom poms
Short neck short temper is crazy 😂
@@rahsanmcmillan5233 Yea man, I guess it’ a short travel for his temper travel through them short necks.
Shady and Jo are just bobble heads talking. For as much football shady played he must have CTE for how dumb he is
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You can draft Caleb all you want. Still won’t matter because he won’t have pieces around him which is the actual problem.
The Bears have plenty of pieces on the team right now. They have a number 1 receiver, top 7 TE, top 12 offensive line and a top 10 defense. They also have cap space next year and alot of draft picks. Bears should be a playoff team this year but Fields choked 3 games away.
no the defense choked games away a lot this year til we traded for sweat @@grovaire1
you clearly are just a casual
@@isaacilaug3651 Explain how I’m a casual
DJ Moore is not a number one WR bro. He’s really good but not a number 1
Trevor Lawrence was going to be a once in a lifetime qb not long ago
Exactly and let's be honest, he and Justin to me on the same level tbh Execpt for the one playoff win. He has not been good this year really and fields has outplayed him. Difference is perception honestly
I’m old enough to remember when Vinny Testaverde was going to be a once in a lifetime quarterback. Trade for picks, and let some other team give you more picks than they should for Caleb Williams.
Michael Penix will be better than Caleb Williams.
Every other yr a guy is generational. Smh.
@@savvonweston4915gtfoh!! Out played in how ? By running the ball ??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Trevors the better passer with the better numbers and the playoff and division title. Sit down ma’am . Nakers love fields because he black oh and by the way , I’m black.
Joy saying “they have another #1 pick again means they’re bad” is why I can’t take her seriously
Remember that Joy isn’t up there because she knows football 😂😂😂
That's the Panthers pick lol
She’s saying cause she doesn’t think Fields been balling and they past on CJ Stroud
@@mrdaf1054 wtf are u talking about..
She knows football. She has very good takes most of the time.
They should also talk about how good Marvin Harrison Jr is and having him on the Bears if they keep Fields.
plus the extra picks that they could parlay into a star somewhere (hopefully a Olineman).
IF THEY😮
*Dude, Caleb Williams is better at his position than Marvin Harrison Jr is at his, you clueless fans are amazing. You never draft a WR over a QB unless that QB is not a top 5 draft pick and the WR is the greatest Receiver since Jerry Rice played at Mississippi Valley State.*
QB are the ones that be a bust. They think all of a sudden Marvin Harris Jr. is not going to be able to catch the ball. Stupid!
@@PEN-N-PALI disagree if they pick cw the bears are going to struggle with no wide receivers or ol
Great discussion...but there is a difference between this year and last as to the Chicago Bears...last year they EARNED the #1 pick overall based on their record...this year they HAVE the #1 pick overall because the Panthers EARNED it for them...the Bears record improved because they added talent around Fields and Fields showed he has talent...we live in an environment where we want everything yesterday...I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan...when the Cowboys drafted Aikman, they won one game, the second year they won three games...the third year they won a playoff game...then went on to win back-to-back Super Bowls and three Lombardi trophies in four years...if Jimmy hadn't left they would have won five or six Championships with the core of that team...all that time they did not move off of Aikman, but continued to use draft picks to build around him...I personally believe the Bears should trade 1.1 for picks and players that will improve the overall team...Super Bowls are won by TEAMS, not QBs...Mahomes stepped into a TEAM that was already built, Hurts stepped into a TEAM that was already built...Terry Bradshaw stepped into a TEAM that was built around him...Montana stepped into a TEAM that was built around him...these are organizations that understood that TEAMS built the right way win multiple championships, not QBs...Brady is the poster child for this approach...take a guy who is good, and allow him the time and space to develop into greatness because the overall team was great...Marino was a great QB...never won a Championship...Elway was great, but didn't win a Championship till the twilight of his career...the Bears are building a strong, young nucleus of talent...if they could get two 1st round picks and a player worth a 1st round pick for 1.1, they should do it in a heartbeat...if the picks don't pan out, that's on the talent evaluators...Caleb will sell tickets, but will stunt the growth the Bears currently have going...imo.
Well said
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Good points. Bears should’ve fired Eberflues and hired Jim Harbaugh as HC
They have the number 1 pick not because of their record it’s because of the team that traded up for a qb as number 1. They went from drafting 1st to 10th the team got better
Literally a couple games from playoff contention.
@@reginaldyourgodbrotha3724 the problem is everyone expects it to be a one year turn around in the nfl. And it’s literally not the bengals didn’t get to what they are over night it actually took Jamar chase draft class to put them over the top
They seem to forget that, i say trade that pick and get a haul.
You still have the number 1 pick. So you gotta evaluate Caleb vs fields. Doesn’t matter how you got the pick, you have it.
@@Kentuckybearsfanthe team that traded for the number one pick was drafting 9th last year… they drafted the consensus 1st overall pick and became the worst team in the league. Fields is good enough to win u games so why not build around that instead of starting over
Totally agree with keeping JF1! Bears get MHJ and trade #1 pick for max equity. Additionally we seek Jim H as our new HC. This combo elevates the Bears to winning their division and a playoff win or two in 2024
Aye thats not a bad coaching idea
You not getting MHJ outside a top 3 pick
@@laynepuls1245Exactly, unless you're trading him to Washington there's no guarantee he'll still be there. And you already have a true #1 WR in DJ Moore, give me the QB over the WR. There are always good receivers in the draft that don't have to be on the level of Harrison Jr.
Receivers are typically easy to find later in the draft. The guy the Rams got in the 5th, Puka Nakua, was phenomenal in the playoffs this year. In today's NFL you absolutely have to nail the quarterback position or you're not in the conversation I don't care how many #1 receivers you have.
@@justinbeynon7980Yeah they're drafted almost every year now. It's not about whether Fields is good or not but more so about getting a guy that's better because your already have a great WR. We just saw CJ Stroud with the 2nd worst team the year before get in the playoffs without a true #1 WR. Plus you're starting the clock over on paying a franchise QB which Fields isn't that right now. If he has one good year he's gonna be looking to making $40M plus a year. I don't even think Jalen Hurts is an elite QB but he's paid like one.
James only one with sense , bears don’t need a qb , fields needs a better team around him
This love affair y'all have with Fields is just funny .
Katt Williams: "You having an unnatural allegiance to losers is not like you"
@@rockjm9876543210 Love affair ? Or prspective ? here are the stats of some QB’s that were "bad" in their 3r year:
1 - Eli Manning = 16 games 57.7% com 3244 24TD 18INT rate 77.0.
2 - Big Ben = 15 games 59.7% com 3513 18TD 23INT rate 75.4.
3 - Drew Brees = 11 games 57.6% com 2108 11TD 15INT rate 67.5.
4 - Brett Favre = 16 games 60.9% com 3303 19TD 24INT rate 72.2.
5 - Now, Justin Fields = 12 games - 61% - 2.414 - 16TD 9INT - rate 85.8.
Is is love for Fields, or simple learning form the past, should any of those names be familiar to you ?
In the last 23 years. 4-5 number 1 overall QBs have lived up to the hype. Caleb Williams is a higher risk gamble than 4 first rounders if you’re the Bears.
Exactly. That's how I suddenly understood what a poor gambler Acho must be. Spreading the odds is by far a winning strategy.
He plays in California, can he play in the cold ?
Daniels or Penix are the next superstars clear as day
If you watched his games….he a liability
@JJDetroitfan925 u r 🔊 facts 💯
Anyone who is a bears fan knows this franchise was completely overhauled when Ryan Poles became the GM. Year 1 he got rid of all the bad contracts. We knew the bears were going to be bad. Year 2, is find out what we have. We see we lost 3 games in the 4th quarter. We should be a 10+ win team, a playoff team if we didn't drop those game. You cannot look at win/loss to determine JF1 value. This team was designed to lose in year 1. Stick to the plan, build the team right, give JF1 weapons.
Like Jones said if everyone is so gassed up about Williams "best QB prospect" blah blah blah u need to push for 3 firsts. I think magic and the commanders may do that. Get 3 firsts and 2 seconds and u can load that team with talent. They'd have 4 picks in the top 45 this year. That can turn any franchise around in a hurry. U get bowers or Harrison with Washington's pick and the best tackle available with their own. Thar alone is a huge upgrade.
@@joshlewis575Commanders aren't giving up 3 firsts and 2 seconds to move from 2nd overall to 1st overall.
Nope
Thank you! If I had known you said this, I wouldn't have even needed my post! But you are completely correct. Shady McCoy and ole girl don't know what they are talking about
@@MrDcb215 historically we’ve seen a move up one spot cost a 2 3rds and a 4th(2018), a move up 4 spots cost 2 1st and a 2nd(2012), a move up 6 spots cost a 1st, a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th(2016). That’s not even taking into account 2023 panthers giving dj moore, a 1st, and 2 2nd to move up 8 spots. None of those teams drafted a generational QB, those trades were for Mitch Trubisky, RGIII, Carson Wentz, and Bryce Young. >50% of 1st rd QBs over the past 10 year are starters. And the jury is still out on Pickett, Baker and Danny Dimes for having a starting role next season. The Pats are gonna have a new coach next season and with a new coach comes a QB they are tied to. Look at the Texans last year, splashed going after C.J., they traded up for Anderson at 3. Commanders having new ownership will want their face of the franchise. Caleb William being “generational” will drive the price. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a move from 3 to 1 go for a 25 1st and a 4th. “Generational” is used to much, Clowney was called “generational” at one point
Has it ever occurred to people that there's something more structurally wrong with the Bears organization, especially in coaching, that has resulted in Fields having an underwhelming career in the NFL and that could cause Caleb Williams to have the same? I get that Caleb could absolutely look good in the league, but that's only if he has the coaching that develops his talent to succeed. Patrick Mahomes almost got drafted by the Bears and it would have been a disaster, but because he went to Andy Reid, he was able to develop his skills and IQ properly and now he has the accolades.
That's not to say Fields shouldn't be traded, but personally if I were Ryan Poles, I'd look more to acquiring a strong offensive coordinator and, more importantly, a star receiver like Marvin Harrison with that first overall pick so that Fields can be given a true chance to compete in the division.
I completely agree.
The Bears have messed up every single QB they've drafted for as long as I can remember. And I keep going back to what Jim McMahon - the last Bears QB to win a Super Bowl - said about his former team: "this is where QBs go to die".
I don't care how special Caleb is. No way is he overcoming the curse of that organization
It's not just about developing QBs, but it's also that the Bears org historically has not placed enough importance on the QB position. We know that hitting on picks, let alone QBs, is a crapshoot and extremely unpredictable. The lower the picks are, the harder it is to hit on picks. Even though the Bears played many QBs in recent history, how many of them were first round picks? On the top of my head, there are 6 QBs since Jim Mcmahon (Jim Harbaugh, Cade McNown, Rex Grossman, Jay Cutler, Mitchell Trubisky, and Justin Fields). How many of these are within the top 10 picks? 2 (Mitchell Trubisky and Justin Fields), which all came in the past decade. That is hardly large enough sample size to make any good conclusion except that the Bears org was archaic in thinking about how to play offense and did not value the QB as much as they should.
That's also in addition that the Bears org often saddle QB choices made by the previous administration for the upcoming one. For example, want to draft a QB in 2021? Don't allow Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy to draft one just to give them a lame duck year. Either fire them and let the new administration draft one or give them a few more years to work their QB out. Same for Trubisky - don't saddle Trubisky on Matt Nagy when it seems clear as day that Nagy never fully believed in Trubisky. Regarding QBs, it seems like the organization is never on the same page. Either the GM believes in that QB and the coach doesn't or the coach believes in that QB and the GM doesn't or neither the GM and coach believe in that QB, but was just saddled with him from the previous administration. That is hardly a recipe of success.
Perfectly said!!! He need to be coached properly.......something that the bears don't have
getsy is a terrible OC, I remember he ran like 15 screen plays a few weeks ago
ok, this organization did go to the Superbowl in 2007 with the same defensive they are running right now. this defense could be dominant next year and JF1 is the better QB we went to the Super Bowl with so what do you say. @@musume7723
James Jones Always make valid points might be the best on here! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Seriously! and shady be low key hating😂
@@80soldgeeyou see it. James deserves better
I never want to hear one word from anyone about the Bears never having a franchise QB from anyone. Changing QBs and coaches every 3 to 5 years is not a way to build a winning team. It's just another 5 years of rebuilding the team, again, and again, and again, and again.
NOBODY in today's NFL would wait 5 years to decide whether a QB is franchise or not. If you still have questions after three years, then you already have your answer.
McMahon was a Franchise QB. 25-0 as a starter from 1984 -1987.
Would you rather build a strong team like SF and just need a solid QB or would you rather have a team that like Buf who lean on the QB and if it doesn't work out you are back at the bottom?
Personally, I would go with the former and trade the pick to get a cache of picks and build.
Excellent point.
100% agree, a decent QB could have a lot of success around plenty of talent
Purdy seems to be a little better than ‘solid.’
@@winstonsyme5899 I 100% agree as well, he’s a great QB. He doesn’t make many mistakes, even though he doesn’t have the biggest arm or the most athletic.
MHJ
I hate this argument bc they aren’t adding in that the dudes been in the league with terrible coaches a terrible roster a terrible wr core and everything and he’s 3 years in and has had 5 different offensive playcallers while not having a single target to throw to his first two years in Chicago he looks great rn he’s starting to show promise and if they put marv jr on the other side of dj moore this team likely wins the division and im saying this as a packers fan man trade back and pay him he’s worth it
Stack the team with weapons. DJ Moore was a MAJOR addition this year. Do it again.
Right but he not a number one
@@rodneythomas851 1300 yards is #2?
Keep stacking weapons.. build the line thru free agency
So basically Fields need a stacked roster? So what's going to happen when you have to pay him and you can't keep all those weapons?
@@rodneythomas851Yes he is. Are you kidding??
They should keep Fields and draft Harrison and an Elite OL to protect him
Unless someone team offers multiple #1 picks for future drafts and picks in this years draft
Keep him, thats not your #1 pick, you are the 10th pick after being 1st last year, thats called improvement. Get him more weapons and he's good. He had better season in college than Williams
They got him a number 1 wide receiver and he did nothing with DJ Moore. What else does he need?
@veezouptown4148 Debo is a number 1 receiver. The 49ers literally were getting offers for first round picks in exchange for him before they extended him.
I think the point that JJ was trying to make is regardless if Justin Fields stays or Caleb Williams comes in they're going to need help from other players. Bears o-line couldn't block for J Fields and so what makes you think they're going to be able to block for C Williams
Bears Oline is ranked pretty good. The stats show that Fields is responsible for a lot of those sacks. Take all the emotion out of it, and you’ll realize that Fields is not the answer.
If I can trade down to 3 and add an extra 1st round pick plus more picks and get Harrison
I’m trading down and sticking with fields
Not even an extra pick but like 3 more.
Fields will be a top 5 QB next season. Hopefully they keep him
Caleb's stock has dropped a lot this year.. things were "guaranteed" before, now people are questioning
he’s the #1 pick guaranteed they’ll trade back a lil
Just from Media people that Don’t know 💩 Caleb is and will be the #1 pick way better the Trevor Lawrence best prospect since Luck
@hunch0hussein792 I mean "guaranteed" far as experts thought for sure he was a generational talent, and I've heard actual experts say there's a good chance he busts in the wrong system
Ya but he's still going number 1 overall, it's not like Drake Maye played great either
Don’t believe the hype because it was their defense that cost them to lose games and not the quarterback
Yes, if Bears win 2 of the 3 games they were ahead of late in the game we probably are not talking about moving on from JF since this team would most likely be in the playoffs. Also, no one knows for sure how good Caleb is going to be in the NFL. All draft picks are speculation to some degree. This is why I believe if you can get more picks you should since this simply increases your odds of picking right.
I would like to see if Shady had his performance rated if he was running behind the worse offensive line in football. This is a team sport and the awful team JF played behind last year makes a difference on how you evaluate his performance. If the Bears didnt trade down last year, they would have been playing with Young or Stroud (that team would have finished dead last) with no DJ Moore, no Darnell Wright, no Gervon Dexter, and no #1 pick for 2024! I will take the results from the trade down any day!
The Bears are far from the worst offensive line.
The Bears have an average OLine. Ranked in the middle. Stop making stuff up bro
the bears had the worst o line his first 2 years @@calwere
@@mrenzo2004 not this season he doesn't. What the excuse for this year
he missed 4 games due to injury and the defense was horrible with no pass rush until they traded for sweat. the o line still isn't good as they've had issues at center all season due to injuries
@@calwere
Wins are not a quarterback stat. I despise when these TV analysts use that.
It’s almost like dammed if they take Caleb Williams and dammed if they don’t. What if they take him and he doesn’t pan out and they don’t put the requisite weapons around him, continue to build the o-line in front of him? It’s amazing how we think Chicago is going to build the best team around Caleb? They didn’t do it with Mitch Trubisky, but all of a sudden if they draft Caleb, Drake, or another Quarterback they’re going to do it right? I’ll wait on that.
Trubisky didn’t deserve to be drafted tho
@@TheSTRILLA that’s fair too, but I find it hilarious that people think the Bears are going to all of a sudden do by right by Caleb if they draft him. I hope they do for Bears fans sake but to assume they will do so is laughable in my opinion.
Wonder if Caleb isn't it and Fields goes elsewhere and balls. Glad I'm not a GM
FIELDS ISN'T IT
@@bcamm3100 I was thinking the same thing. They better be right about Caleb and hope Justin doesn’t ball out elsewhere.
Why are people acting like Caleb Williams is a guaranteed success bro.. fields talent wise is one of the most if not top 3 talented players period in the league
period
did you also vote for brandon johnson?
@@kylewaddle4496 what are you talking about?
Its a tough choice. Easily could gain multiple first round picks, load up and if JF just is average you're likely in the playoffs. Draft Caleb, have less assets, and maybe he can carry the team to the playoffs. Id probably keep JF and bet that Caleb will follow a long line of over hyped QBs that end up not delivering.
Their offensive Coordinator will be the key to upgrading and winning more games. The Bears have all the talent and can compete but if the offense isn't innovative and we're not giving opposing defenses different looks they're gonna look stale and out of place.
What if Williams is trash for 2-4 years we would be back in the same situation.
As a bears fan who wants them to keep fields and turn the pick into an endless amount of picks to secure the franchises future, Caleb is so talented that he will at worst be a solid starter in the nfl
@@CoC_Lord as a green bass Packers fan I think these organizations need to look at what Green Bay did with Jordan love doesn’t matter where they drafted up some people could use a year, riding the bench behind a good quarterback, to understand the system.
@@JonathanHenryspacecowboy I agree, but sitting for years doesn’t always equal success and that takes a lot of resources to gamble. Being said, I’m not opposed to drafting Caleb and keeping fields to start another year
Jordan love also sat behind one of the greatest qbs we ever seen
The Bears moving on from Fields at this point would be a colossal mistake. Use the #1 overall pick and trade back to fill out the roster. Anyone who suggests using a #1 overall pick to draft a QB is not a serious analyst. Honestly, how many quarterbacks that went #1 overall have even won a Superbowl the past 20 years? There's only been 1. Peyton's first chip. That's it. In 20 years. Stafford was aquired via trade and Peyton's 2nd he was a free agent signing. Only 1 QB out of 18 picked #1 overall. The Bears would be stupid to waste that pick on Caleb Williams.
Not drafting Caleb will haunt them FOREVER if he becomes what we all think he will. If you miss on Caleb, cool you’re back where you started as the worst team. QB has proven to be the game changer (see CJ Stroud)
great information, thanks
@@randylouissaint1636 lol (see Bryce Young)
So tell me smart guy do you pick up Field's 5th year option when he can't even complete 60 percent of his passes and then pay him to be a 16 TD to 9 pick QB in the league?
@@randylouissaint1636 If Caleb puts up even an average year next year with the Patriots or Commanders Poles will be fired instantly. Can't pass up on a great QB in back to back drafts and keep a bust.
I'm a 🐻 fan, and I can't wait until this draft is here in April because I'm getting tired of hearing this narrative about trading Justin Fields for Caleb Williams. I want JF in Chicago, but most opinions want him gone. If Chicago trades him, I'm going to be a fan of his wherever he might go. He came into a situation with 2 different head coaches, 2 different OC, key players with high contracts sent off to other teams, no number one WR until this season and improving on his individual game during a rebuild. Caleb is coming into a really good situation, so it is what it is.
I’m not a Bears fan but I agree with this take. Fields was thrown into a horrible situation his rookie year and in year 2 it wasn’t all that much better but he did showcase his ability as a runner. This year they give him DJ Moore and he develops chemistry with Kmet, and you are seeing the results. Yes it’s happened slower than ideal but that’s the fault of the Bears more than it is Fields. If they fire Eberflus and go with an offensive coach, I could understand trading him if they get the right package from a QB needy team. Other than that though, I think they’re better off keeping him.
I'm fine with keeping eberflus as a HC, but getsy HAS TO GO. you see what he did with Aaron rogers. keep fields and build around him like every other team that has success does. josh Allen wasn't josh Allen until they traded for Diggs, Mahomes came into an established team already with a great HC, same with Hurts.@@MSF8637
@joshschmidt3841they’re not trading down and getting a haul keeping a top 4 pick to get MHJ, they fleeced car last year they’re not doing that BS to was, NE or ari
Marvin Harrison jr is the best player in this draft. The fact that the Bears can trade out for a bucket load and still take him is too good to turn down.
They’re not trading out and still getting him. NE and was likely stay put and watch the bears what they do
The Caleb Williams hype is ridiculous 😂
@jmoney6043fields hype folks everybody is tryna get rid of fields😭🤣🤣
It’s not .. what has fields done?
Caleb Williams most overrated qb in history
Caleb? Most talented QB coming out of the draft in 10 years???? 😂😂😂😂😂 ... CJ is better then he will EVER be ...I agree,it's ridiculous
Idk whose worst his hype or Trevor Lawrence
The importance of keeping Justin Fields in Chicago is multi-faceted. Fields has shown leadership qualities that have resonated with the team. His teammates have praised his increased leadership which is crucial for team chemistry and overall performance.
On the other hand, bringing in Caleb Williams could potentially disrupt this chemistry. While Williams has shown promise in college, transitioning to the NFL is a different challenge altogether. There are instances where Williams’ actions have raised questions about potential impacts on team chemistry.
Coaching has indeed been a significant issue in Chicago. The Bears have had a history of instability in their coaching staff. When the Bears switched their defensive coordinator, the defense’s performance improved. This suggests that the problem may not lie with the players, but with the coaching.
If we apply the same logic to the offensive side, it’s reasonable to speculate that a change in offensive coordinator could lead to improved performance. The current offensive coordinator, Luke Getsy, has faced criticism for inconsistency and struggles to adjust in-game. A more competent offensive coordinator could potentially bring out the best in Fields and the rest of the offense, much like the defensive coordinator switch did for the defense.
keeping Fields, improving the coaching staff, and maintaining team chemistry could be key to the Bears’ future success. However, these are complex issues that require careful consideration and strategic decision-making. The uncertainties in the NFL landscape further underscore the importance of making informed, logical decisions rather than banking on unproven “generational talents”. Dude has yet to play a snap in the NFl, media throws the world around every draft class with no accountability and it sickens me. They're selling a product to the masses and the new shiny toy is the ticket to the uneducated casuals.
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Justin Fields is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's better for Feilds To be elsewhere, But not for the bears
Tough question. How many times have we heard about can't miss #1 generational talent qbs? The last ones might have been RG3 and Luck. Caleb could turn out to be another Trevor Lawrence our last so called generational talented qb. To have 4 1st round picks as opposed to 2 is so tempting. You could field a SB team with those picks alone and they would be dirt cheap.
This. The last few #1 QBs were Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield.
If these QBs, only 1 does the team feel confident in their selection for the future overall and even that one the QBs health is a problem.
It's been nearly 2 full seasons of Shady being Shady towards Fields
It will never change
Shady is an RB at heart: once you're dead set on a course, you don't deviate. You can't blame the man for having left his brains in some locker room a long time ago.
I have a question, what if we trade Justin Fields for Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams performs poorly for 2 to 3 years, what’s next have another quarterback
Nah they would give Williams way more time if they draft him at 1
@@evileyevalaushow you think they build with Caleb but not with field
@@gramz23 I think the bears need to keep fields what I was saying is if they draft Williams at 1 it would take more than 2-3 years to move off of him if he played poorly
I think the bears need a vet QB time to build the roster then grab a QB like with Purdy in SF
@@evileyevalausI don’t think so, as a bears fan I think we are tired of these qbs getting overrated so the fact we all want fields will put a lot of pressure on this kid.
He already can’t handle the media well and his backup just had 6tds in the bowl game
As a Bears fan, I love seeing the passion people have about this. It really feels like we're snakebitten at QB and if we let Justin go he will instantly be a superstar for his new team. Then if it's between Williams or Maye, whomever the Bears pick will be the wrong guy, and the other guy will be a superstar. I think most Bears fans are so sick of debating quarterbacks. We just want ANYONE to show up and be THE guy. We all want Justin to be that guy, but if you watch the games he only shows up for 2 or 3 quarters. Maybe Harrison Jr fixes that? IDK
There's no comparison. Watch the game tape, not highlights. Listen to professional scouts, ex players and analysts. Across the board, it's Caleb Williams. The decision is either:
1. Justin Fields + his contract, Marvin Harrison Jr., the 10th overall pick, and two FUTURE first
2. Caleb Williams (best prospect many analysts have said they have seen in college), Rome Odunze (elite), presumably a back half 1st for Fields, and the cap savings to buy veteran help to support the youth
I pick 2nd option time for young stars to take this team . @fantasypolice
This is so unfair to compare Justin situation to Jalen, Pat, and Joe. We were tanking people they weren’t
they traded all the talent away his first 2 years to clear cap space (had the most $ last year) fields didn't start right away his first year and they had Nagy as his first year coach. they bring in eberflus and a new oc so that's a new system along with having no o line, no weapons on offense and trading away all their talent on defense last year. year 3 we get dj, a better o line, and the defense didn't start clicking til we traded for sweat. Dj's having a career year while fields missed 5 games (he could easily have 1600 yards and 10+TDs. Build around fields, trade the #1 for a haul, draft MHJ and beef up the o line. find a Eddie Jackson replacement and resign Jaylon johnson
He's absolutely wrong. It's harder to hit on one player (e.g. Caleb Williams) than hitting on 3 or 4 players. You may not hit on all 4, but if you hit on 2 of 4, that's 50% and not bad. But if you miss on one, that's 0% and it's horrible.
We'd gladly welcome Fields to Atlanta.
Seems like it's meant to be, honestly. For his and Atlanta's sake, I just hope it isn't under Arthur Smith. Dude is by all definitions not it.
Y'all could of drafted him but y'all drafted that overrated tight end
@@zackhurwitz9441bears aren’t dumb enough to trade fields. I believe Caleb’s backup just had a 6td bowl game
We can sense overrated
Yes, because we always take non-franchise QBs.
The wild card also is Ryan PAce who drafted Fields is head of player operations, also Fields was born and raised in Kennesaw,His Dad an Atlanta cop for three decades, it's the perfect trade partner.
It's tough to be successful in Chicago. Giving up on him after 3 years to this degree is crazy. I'd love to see him go to somewhere like Seattle and shine
Seattle has too many holes in the roster to trade anything away for a QB that they would have to pay $40M + next year. Atlanta is a good fit. Or the Pats if BB walks.
@@FilipinomadDenver with Sean Payton would be my first choice if I was Fields. Give me the coach that can put me in the best position to succeed. You can always go get more weapons.
@@brandondillman5841 Denver is the last place Fields needs to go. He needs to go to the Commanders or Falcons.
@@brandondillman5841Sean Payton was losing his mind because Wilson can't effectively run a offense inside of the pocket, so what do you think he's going to do with Fields? That man would probably be in a nut house.
@@rockjm9876543210 I think Payton would like a QB like Fields. Hes a much better version of Taysom Hill, who Payton absolutely loved as a weapon. Russ’s issue is he refuses to throw over the middle of the field and when he scrambles he doesn’t actually take off and gain yards.
Fields did his job took the team from worde in the nfl to 2 games from playoff contention with two weeks to go if brice young did that everyone would eat it up
Terrible take on fields. They didn’t even mention how DJ Moore had his best season as a wr with Chicago his first year with Fields.
Chicago will regret getting rid of Fields.
To acho’s question of it being more likely that you hit on williams or the 4 other 1st round picks, it’s more likely the other 4 hit. It’s so much easier to evaluate the other positions than qb. 1st qbs historically do not have that much success. Drafting harrison and an ot has a wayyyy higher probability of hitting
Shady don’t realize bears fans don’t feel like they missed on cj stroud or B young. The roster had so many holes that the trade was exactly what was needed. Dj Moore, Darnell Wright is an excellent RT & still own #1 this year & a 2nd rd pick next year. There’s so many options at qb this year coming out that it’s not a must Caleb Williams at #1 is a must. #1 pick can be traded for a haul & they can still grab a Pennix, Nix or Daniels & still keep Justin until that qb is ready. This show is thinking small.
These guys aside from JJ don't have a single clue. The Majority of Bears fans don't want Caleb Williams, that's just regional talking heads propping him up.
I don't know how you watch Stroud spin that ball and think "nah, we didn't miss" lol
@@jamesbohm3690 there were way too many holes in the roster at the end of last year & still high hopes for Justin at that time. The way the year turned out, it’s easy to say we should’ve gotten Stroud but at the same time would Stroud have been able to overcome the OC, Darnell Mooney as his #1 & an even weaker OLine than what da bears have now? There’s no guarantees he wouldn’t have gotten ruined being in that situation.
@@Treyday5 Fields was able to right the ship once the defense started playing better. If he can get them to 7-10, Stroud easily gets them in the playoffs. Bears schedule was loaded with cupcakes and their fans exaggerate how bad the roster is to protect Justin
Ngl fields caught my eye whenver i watch the Bears. I think he's talented. I would take my chances with him and build a good team around him.
They are 4-2 in their last 6 games and Justin Fields has played better and relied on his pocket passing
Shady has been hating on JF1 since he's been in the league. He needs to be quiet!
The so called analyst act like this Caleb dude going to comebin the NFL and be a HOF. Anybody remember JaMarcus Russell 😂
Bear fans know that keep building. We got 1 because of Carolina its not our 1. Fans want Fields.Fields team mates love him. Run it back.
I think Ryan Poles has drafted pretty well considering… I don’t think Marvin Harrison is going to be a question, I don’t think Brock Bowers is going to be a question and again the Bears have drafted pretty well they haven’t missed on many guys so I’m not worried about whomever they’ve select to improve the team… But I’d much rather have three talented guys instead of one? Who cries when hismom is out in the stadium because he’s sad little boy…
Bears have not had a good Offensive Line like other teams in our division but Justin would be very good if he had the blocking offensive line just saying.
Bears should trade that number one draft pick and get some pieces to put around Fields.
Do Joy agree with everything Shady says like 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️have your own mind.
I have to wonder if these analysts are told which side they have to argue lol. They keep talking about what Fields' current record is without taking anything else into account. It's like saying Carolina should move on from Bryce Young because he hasn't won enough games like it was all on him that they aren't winning😂
Yeah they act like its madden caleb doesn't need anyone he will do it all by himself ahhhh no he still needs weapons and good ones you see mahomes no weapons and he's look average this year you give Justin one more wrs and he will look up and have nothing but great wrs on both sides nowhere to throw it but to a great wr.
The team is building chemistry. It does take all players doing their jobs to have success
Daniel Jones got 4 years to develop and he's still in New York
And they paid that $$$ to him. Bears should trade and get some #1's on a rookie contract. If Fields regresses next year get another QB
An he’s still trash was even trash at Duke led the Acc in interceptions an turnovers yea the giants made the playoffs last year but he only threw 15 TD while Barkley rush for the same amount keep fields an draft MHJ
And what if the Bears draft Caleb Williams and they go 3-14? QBs are never certain
Leave Fields and build around him. He can do it if he has the supporting cast. Fields needs a supporting cast period.
As a Lions fan honestly it would be better to keep fields and get the picks take a look no farther than the lions. If the bears do there homework on the players they would draft you would kick start the "rebuild" and the only player you would have to pay would be fields and if he doesn't work out then yes you trade him and with the team you would have in place would bring in a good qb on the free agent market. Because if they take Williams all they will end up doing is spinning the tires and say that he's a bust.
As a Minnesota & Green Bay fan, it would be better to keep Fields and make more bad picks.
You know what i never hear: “what if Caleb Williams doesn’t pan out?”
Shady doesnt watch the games. You can hear it in his talking points. Because if he watch him, you get context around his stats, and you see how he is giving defenses fits. Even the best defenses were getting tap danced on. You cant look too deep into his record in his first 2 years since the bears were tanking and tearing the team apart to rebuild. I think you can only judge him based on this season. The coach during his rookie year almost got him killed. And last year was year 2. The new coaches didn't know what to do with him and were getting him killed too until he started running half way into the season.
To Shady, Fields is proven to play in the NFL. Williams hasn’t played yet and has not proven that right yet.
And oh no. The Bears passed on Mahomes. Reality check time: The is no guarantee that Mahomes would have had the same success in Chicago as he did in KC. Look at the teams. KC was a good team with Alex Smith and got the upgrade the Mahomes. He had Andy Reid, Travis Kelce. Justin had who? Different situations with different players with different coaches produce different results. If Mahomes had went to Chicago, they would have messed him over, too. Chicago is where young QBs start and end their careers.
The bears barely missed the playoffs and JF1 missed 4 games
To be noted. ThaksBrandon.
and the defense had a complete meltdown in 2 games that fields played exceptional in
Burrow, Mahomes, Hurts, Allen...all had solid offensive lines and good Defenses. The bears Oline has been below par forever. Theres no way, Caleb Williams comes to Chicago and improves the offense. JF1 and DJ Moore have incredible chemistry, add MHJ, improve the oline and lets see what you have.
Burrow has notoriously had bad OLs. Fields is just bad. But Williams is even worse.
Your right about burrows. I should have just said talent around them. The bears have been void of talent at the WR position for a long time. Serviceable maybe but talented no. DJ Moore stands alone. Draft MHJ and upgrade the line and I think JF1 takes another step.
Caleb Williams with no Jordan Addison had a bad year. Justin fields just got DJ Moore and started to build chemistry. Justin has a terrible 1st year with Nagy, no team last year and just started to build this year. His #1 last year is no where to be found this year. Give the man some credit for where they are going.
mooney is a 3rd option at best
I would keep Fields sign him to a 4 yr extension bout $100 mil. Let him develop. Take that #1 pick and flip it to the highest bidder. 2 first rd these yr the others a few yrs from now. 3 first rd picks take one of them flip it to multiple later rds. Build the team the right way.
Keep Justin Fields!!! 🐻⬇️
If i had to have one person throwing me the ball with the game on the line, between Fields or Williams…I WANT IGUADALA
Ion think fields is terrible he just needs a better situation like Lamar had 2018-2019 someone that builds around his playstyle and the bears can’t do that for anyone even if they get Marvin harrison it’s finna be backyard football 💯 fields deserves a reset button before it’s to late. Ofc we don’t know how Caleb is gonna be but we seen what fields already does. (BTW GO BUCKYES❤️🖤)
Lamar made it to the playoffs and won an mvp with trash wr's. Fields just sucks.
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@@kifley19did Lamar have a trash o line , bad oc and suspect defense.. ? Ima wait on your response
Lamar inherited a team that had one a Superbowl 2 seasons earlier so the cap bro
@@Quin89 that’s why I said he needs a situation like that and leave the bears are you reading?
I can’t take this show serious no more. Acho and James need to be on a prime time show.
Does everybody forget Ryan leaf and Demarcus Russell where can't miss generational talent. They turned out to be busts!
You don't have to go that far.... Trevor lawarence who was "generational " , fields is better than him thus year....
@@aaronclay4665 I'm talking about this years draft try buying a clue already!
@@aaronclay4665 Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, Mitch Trubisky, Bryce Young, MArcus MAriota, Carson Wentz, Baker Mayfield, Johnny Manzel, there have been so many of these CANT MISS guys lighting it up against 18 year olds in college. One of these guys coming out is older than Justin Fields! It's always the same trash short-term saviour-chasing franchises scrambling over them as well.
So just don’t even try drafting a QB because dudes in the past busted..?
@@Kentuckybearsfan you're an idiot! Trying to make the right decision you don't draft a QB just because everyone says there a generational talent
"This is not a cut-and-dry scenario. You have to take Caleb Williams." Joy, think before you speak 🤦♂️
Honestly, Justin is on year 2.5 not 3 because of QB controversy in his first year. DJ Moore is having a career year. The defense has also given up some historic collapses. It would be a disappointment to not build around this talented player working with very little.
As a lions fan Fields with a good line and another weapon sounds way more promising than Caleb Williams and a tackle or the 2nd reciever taken. Fields running ability is so game changing there's no way they should give up on him already. If he gets traded to a team with solid talent he's gonna be a problem.
FIELDS WILL BE TRADED
@@Icebgriz We'll see
I think the panel is forgetting that Playing QB in the NFL is difficult especially as a Rookie going to a mediocre franchise
Their argument is so dumb. People were saying Bryce Young was incredible, and he's won 2 games. They act like Caleb Williams is going to make the bears a really good team. He's one guy. Keep Fields, build around him.
Even if they draft Caleb Williams, he won’t be able to do anything
James the only one talking right! We want Fields! Get Marvin Harrison Jr, another pass rusher, another ol player, and another secondary player
When is joy ever gonna disagree with shady 😂
When he dumps her.
Acho's math is terrible, if I have one shot at it, it is better odds than if I have four shots at it WT Living F! I thought these guys went to college? 🤣🤣🤣
James the only one that knows how to draft
Exactly 😂
Everybody talks about what if you pass on Caleb and he goes to another team and he’s successful and Fields still hasn’t gotten better. Nobody says what if Caleb turns out to be a bust or no better than Fields and Fields becomes a superstar somewhere else.
Yes trade fields so we can get him in Atlanta falcons
THAT'S IF YALL TEAM WANTS HIM
@@Icebgrizcasual
@@Icebgriz well it's been rumors of a lot of these QBs that's coming into free agency this year. And been mention in Atlanta verse
Def want to see him in a Falcons uniform
@@jeremybellow9211 WELP YALL MITE JUST BE OUR TEAM TRADE PARTNER
This Speak crew haven’t watched the Bears in the last 6 weeks
These discussions are a joke, when, EVER has a QB Draft pick been a lock? There are more busts than "Mahomes". How many were drooling over Bryce Young? There are no guarantees.
100% with you. But it the media thrive on hyping and disparaging people thereafter. This has nothing to do with the actual value of a proven player like FIelds, or a brilliant college player like Williams.
mahomes was drafted to a built team already
Caleb Williams doesn’t just have a few red flags. He’s a red flag FACTORY.
Another Question Is Will Caleb Be Ready To Go At The NFL Level Off The Gate???I Don't Think So!!!He's Good But We've Seen Some Really Good Guys Fall At This Level!!!I'm Riding With Fields And Building Around Him,Rather Than Gamble On A College Guy That Can At Times Be Iffy!!!If I Did Go Ahead And Get Caleb He Would Have To Work For That Starting Job!!!It's All A Gamble,A Big Gamble!!!*we will see,soon enough what the bears do*Caleb In Chicago Could Be A Bust,With This Organization!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️I Think I Would Take My Chances On 3/4 Picks Over Just Getting Caleb And Going For It!!!🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️I May Be Fired,But...Like I Said This Will Be A Really Big Gamble In This League!!!
The caps dont make your argument stronger.
FIELDS ISN'T THAT GOOD
@@malikwilliams8643 nobody arguing, just stating an opinion!!!keep believing the Caleb hype and watch him be a bust,especially in the bears organization!!!Justin can win games with the right pieces,especially in his division!!!until Caleb proves he can cut it in the nfl I will say Justin would be a better option!!!*in my opinion of coarse*but we will see huh???🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Little Neck Shady is the same one who said CJ Stroud won’t be good!!!!!!!!!
Caleb Williams ain’t built for Chicago. He gone be running to his mama to cry after every game cuz the O line client block ish and he getting sacked every play.
Bears are going to eat his poodle alive.
@jeanfourcade Don’t sell poodles short. They were bred in Germany to be water retrievers akin to Labrador or Golden retrievers, and are the second smartest breed out there. Only border collies are smarter.
There's no guarantee Caleb Williams is going to be good. 4 first round picks is a better option.
They are so dumb to not think about that. If Caleb bombs then what……but if bears have the pieces together then fields can elevate his game
@@milesa2005 absolutely 💯
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But yet when James broke it down in simple terms a few weeks back on the show and said so if we just replaced Williams and fields, would they still be this bad and he brought up the BIG GAMES Williams has played in THIS season and has LOST on the college level and shady had NOTHING to say on that matter. Oh, but you want to bring in Williams but also OTHER PIECES as well. Sounds like it's not enough for either to win in Chicago with just a QB change 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿