SAINTS ROW: THE THIRD (Zero Punctuation)
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This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Saints Row: The Third.
Fast-talking Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw reviews a new game each week in this animated series that combines informed critique with cutting humor. Watch the next episode of Zero Punctuation a week early, only on The Escapist.
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Yeah, but the finale to SR3 having "Holding Out for a Hero" by Bonnie Tyler blare through my headset was probably one of my favorite moments in any video game ever.
+Travis Vartorella I like speeding around on my Reddit-themed Sandstorm to "Stand and Deliver" by Adam Ant.
@@Vincent_Beers I think some of that is because the city of Steelport isn't designed as well and the fewer NPC models makes it difficult to feel like it's an actual city that people live and work in. The design itself is perfectly usable but it feels more like a GTA map than the impressive layout of SR2. It's a fun game and I think it has more overall replayability than SR4. The Saints Row series in general has always done a good job with set pieces and I agree the finale to SR3 was pretty awesome.
With you got the Touch from SR4 as a very close second :)
What, the same song that was in Shrek 2?
@@jcohasset23 it also looked plasticy as hell and the animations were ugly with the dual wield, also you couldn't single hand optionally
He must follow the Jontron definition of New York: taxis and tall buildings.
True
Especially when they worked very hard to make it very specifically Pittsburgh.
@@charles2703 i think the real matter of confusion is the big statue of the iron worker.
I mean, there are plenty of cities with skyscrapers and taxis, but how many have big metal statues on an island? It's an understandable mixup.
I also though Steelport was based on Chicago?
The role playing as a conservitive MP joke made me roll. xD
The shift in his opinion on SR3 between this video and his SR4 video confuses me...
Sometimes your opinion shifts after you've had some time to sit with it for a while.
RIP Bowie :( Shame we couldn't build you in Saints Row 3
+celeste AR When he died i suddenly remembered this video (that i had long forgotten) so i went on here to see if anybody had posted about posting about bowie in the comments, turns out somebody did.
Why did you reply to someone with their own comment?
Harry Hurt we should all make him in saints row 2 so that he can live on as a badass crime boss with unlimited resources and lots and lots of money
It's interesting how things have changed since SR2. In SR2, the more unusual or comedic moments feel unique and almost like a reward for playing through the more serious majority of the game. In SR3, the scenes that are more serious, relatable, or grounded in reality (Specifically the section featuring "What I Got" by Sublime) feel like they are presented as a reward for playing through the rest of the game, which can never seem to take itself seriously.
In defense of the tiger, in the next cutscene with Angel, the Boss makes it clear that they think that was also fucking insane. Also, they apparently decide to keep it because it makes a reappearence in SR4 during that beginning bit where you're walking through the Whitehouse.
Also, according to Violtion, there was a lot of shit that got cut for time. There was originally going to be a lot more slumming it after Matt twats away all your resources and there would have even been a segment in Stillwater. If they wanted to keep going.
Silly Yahtzee, Steelport looks nothing like New York, and neither does Stilwater for that matter. They look closer to Boston and Pittsburgh, respectively. I guess his criteria for "looks like New York" is "has tall buildings clustered together in the downtown area", in which case every major city in the US is New York by his standards.
cam the king Yes, clearly my avatar of a squirrel figurine is a suitable counter-argument to why someone who cannot recognize the difference between various major cities hasn't demonstrated a glaring lack of research and knowledge. This is a perfectly logical and not at all flawed argument you have made, and nobody can possibly find any fault with your reasoning. Your parents must be so proud of you.
um... what does that mean
did u +1 your own comment
and yes my parents are proud of me unlike urs how did u know
cam the king
I am sorry to learn that you haven't yet matured past the age of six. I suggest you take some time to do so, perhaps learn to act your age. Or if you actually are six years old, you really should stop watching Zero Punctuation videos, as they're really not age-appropriate for you.
There was no hawaiian shirt option. I mean fucking seriously??? How the fuck can I play Old Man Henderson if I don't have a goddamn hawaiian shirt?? Oh, but I can be a sick furry, so there's that. Gee, what a fuckin' tradeoff.
+HowDo ILogin i feel slightly sad that i get that
+rowan markovich dont. it means you know greatness
You know, even though this comment is two years old, I still feel strongly enough to comment my disapproval of the lack of hawaiian shirt. It was a great shirt, and they took it away. How could they think that was ok to do?
Finally! Someone mentions Coventry !
I live in Coventry, can confirm it's a depressing shithole.
BOSS
Since he hasn't responded, he probably got through the cue by now.
Either that or he's too depressed to reply!
Now, I feel like I should go play Saint's Row now to cheer me up after all this talk of Coventry... and bare in mind I'm from Leeds, a city with a road layout designed by a committee of morons who can't be arsed to bring back the tram system, instead spending ungodly sums on bicycle lanes on roads that occasionally have two bicycles on it and is filled with more traffic lights than the entire South of England!
Steelport is a far worse city than Stilwater its not copy pasted still water had diverse and interesting map while steelport is generic city blocks everywhere
LondonLock exactly Stillwater had a mountain with a secret laboratory, a Roman amphitheater, a huge mall and a all around better atmosphere, steel port was just a ugly copy of GTA4 map
Stilwater had a 'people actual live and work here' feel to it and it felt like how a city naturally develops and expands. Steelport just had a designed feel to it, which while it works fine it doesn't make it as interesting a city as Stilwater. The NPCs also feel less diverse in SR3 than 2 which affect the city too.
@@jcohasset23 sorry to Necro a 3 year old thread but with the release of SR3 Remastered I've come to the conclusion that I completely agree.
Stillwater seemed to be using the world itself to tell a story. Everywhere you go, even the renovated Ultor neighborhoods, the city felt old and broken, like it's been through years of punishment with all of the corruption and gang wars. And Ultor desperately trying to cover it up only accentuated how dirty and rundown it really was.
Steelport isn't like that at all. It just feels like a big shiny new sandbox with pretty sparkly lights for us to play in.
It's ironic that a city beaming with light and color is completely drab and lifeless compared to a washed out slum like Stillwater.
@@stevie_ily Also, the original sr3 is much darker than the remastered so the city and atmosphere appears even less brighter, rendering the beaming lights and things useless
At least with the remaster they managed to completely brighten up the game which is one plus
There's enough grim heaviness in the gaming world. I appreciated the unabashed tongue-in-cheek id-stroking of SR3.
here's a compassion from the major Allie deaths in the Saints Row series. In the original Saints Row one of your allies (forget the girl's name) is locked in the trunk of a car, along with Playa, and she struggles to save Playa while sacrificing herself. in Saint Row 2, Carlos, a character you've known from the start, is abducted by a rival gang then chained to the back of a car and dragged across the city, inevitably leading to the Player Character, having to mercy kill him. In Saints Row 3, Johhny Gat 'dies' by holding off a fucking plane full of Syndicate members. Saints Row 4 immediately takes away the SR3 gut punch by having Gat show up early with the hand wave explanation that he was abducted by aliens. The series got goofy as hell as it went on.
@@supersasukemaniac Yeah but then the earth blew up.
While I think SR3 is pretty weak compared to SR2 and SR4, it's still fun to murder Luchador's with a chainsaw in a bunny outfit with Burt Reynolds following you around.
Nate Richards why not ride around on a motorbike in a speedo ten sizes to small hitting people with a big floppy dildo while screaming "IF YOU DONT DO THE JIGGLE YOU GET THE DICKLE"
Nate Richards cos'i sure did
Nate Richards saints row 4 is the worst one
Not a fan of 4, seems a bit weak
Saints row 4 is even weaker dude
I just realised it's called Zero Punctuation because he doesn't stop when talking. That took way too long!
Sigh.
Brissles I know I'm actually ashamed of myself.
lol
Wait a minute...oh my it all makes sense now!
*facepalm* I've been watching this for years and I never realized that.
"This is a trilogy progression we academics call 'Evil Dead Syndrome'..."
And what we at TV Tropes call "Reverse Cerebus Syndrome".
I always thought that Stilwater was more along the lines of a mock-up of New Jersey than New York
It actually resemble Chicago and Detroit all mixed together. Stilport resembles New York.
I think the whole "start with everything" was refreshing. It makes it a great game to just jump in to for short sessions of fun, rather than something you have to get too engrossed in.
I can confirm that Coventry is depressing.
This is my favorite game of all time. I’ve played better games, but this was my first ever open world game. I loved finding all the glitches and Easter eggs. Happy to see it remastered
Your favorite game? I mean, it was fun for a time, BUT FAVORITE? why?
He has the right idea. I'm playing SR2 for the first time, and the mix of realistic serious tone and silly things is what makes the silly things fun. When the entire game *cough SR3* is just over the top silliness, you kinda get used to it, and the things that SHOULD be fun, get old. Because that's ALL you're doing.
Also not being a bodybuilder in real life, I was kinda disappointed I couldn't make someone that looked anything like me in SR3. Especially since I could make an exact copy of me in the first Saints Row. (I can also make me just fine in SR2)
Main things I disliked about SR3 was there was just so much LESS OF IT than SR2, i spent month's getting 100% on SR2, I was at 99% of SR3 in a week, and was too bored to finish the last bit of it. then there was the water, which was as alive with npcs and vehicles in SR2 but in SR3 was totally devoid of any signs of life unless you took to the water while wanted by the police at which point gunboats would show up and screw you with oneshot missiles which you couldn't fight off effectivly even with your own gunboat because the missiles on these boats can only be fired FORWARDS.
I had to pause the video while I laughed for about a minute crying after that clown shoe joke. God damn I love you Yahzee.
exactly the slowmo and johnnys look to my similar batman villain esque character running into the room was a nice blend of traumatic, serious and wtf
is the saints row series the only game with a cruise control feature. Because when they want you to drive and shoot people it's hard to press one trigger while holding the other.
Considering that SR4 jumped head first down the meta rabbit hole SR3 intentionally waving its hat goodbye to realism isn't farfetched, maybe even likely.
I'm not the only one who cottoned onto the whole selling out of this game and yes SR2 best SR hands down.
Dude, it's part of his signature style to have 1 frame animations of a little oval man in a spiffy hat on a yellow background talk with visual gags going on with said aforementioned 1 frame animations
Rocket powered jet bikes...he predicted GTA ONLINE!!!! Lel
I agree. Especially as the main story point, you have super powers, was a DLC for SR3.
damn it yahtzee, its 3 AM and im still watching your videos, now i'll never get to sleep
I do agree with the fact that this game sorely needed some Mass Effect style "carry your character over from the previous game" feature. I'm barely an hour in and I already miss my burly, heavily tattooed amazon from Saints Row 2.
Also, I prefer how the mission structure is set out in SR2. You just see the factional mission marker on your map and you know you're going to be doing a mission based on curb-stomping out a rival gang. With the SR3 thing it's unclear who or what you're going to be doing on the missions provided, if anyone of significance. And it's impossible to know which ones actually continue the plot. At this point I'm rather tempted to skip SR3 and just try SR4 to see if it's improved.
+Penningtontj I did that. I played through Saints Row 2 (28 hours), played five hours of Saints Row 3, then skipped the rest and went to Saints Row 4, which is much more fun.
+Penningtontj I like how you can take out any gangs at any time you want in SR2 while SR3 had a more linear story.
its currently 4:07am, mate. I said I will go to sleep at 1am.
As much as I love his reviews I have to say that I loved SR3. Iv'e played all three games, and I enjoyed them all equally. The sense I got from the series was that you start off as a new recruit, and fuck, gang life can be fun, but it's a lot more than just drugs and drinking. Next game your the boss and you want to do things right, your uptight, and focused on your goal to reach the top. Now the third game...well your at the top, you know how to run things, so...why not have fun with it?
0:49 San Andreas was set in LA which is why it is one of the only ones I liked
One (and so far the only, really) sense of accomplishment I got from this game was managing to steal a Eagle helicopter from the National Guard base without getting shot down.
That and managing to beat a Brute Hand to hand!
It is now my purpose in life to recreate David Bowie in any game possible.
It's still available for pre-order on Steam, at the moment, and it will be released here in Australia just toned down just a bit. But I don't know why it would be toned down, seeing though we got our R18+ rating at the start of the year.
It's weird for me, seeing GTA considered a "rise to the top, only to find out that CRIME DOESN'T PAY" kind of game. It's not supposed to be some gritty crime thriller, it's supposed to be a game where you kill thousands of Hollywood stock characters without remorse: a parody of mass media's tendency to write one-dimensional characters that are essentially unrelatable and inhuman, framed in a celebration of cathartic violence.
GTA has never had that kind of depth. If they're making a comment, it is firmly hidden in a place where I don't even know if they can find it.
No, the whole "OMG SATIRE AMIRITE" excuse is mediocre. It sits and says "LOL THE BEER IS CALLED PISS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA." That's borderline American satire (i.e. massively dumbed down British satire for it's mass market audience).
The characters are painfully cliched, but not in a self aware sense. None of the characters are likable (whereas in Saints row, such as SR4 you can understand and get behind The Boss in your effort to save humanity, etc), just disturbing (Franklin as the token coloured gangster is crude at best) and dull. And to say "Micheal lays out all his ambitions and makes loads of plot holes for himself is SATIRE therefore OMG I LOVE ROCKSTAR" as an argument is stupid.
It's not self aware cliche and unfunny, it's just mediocrely cliched and unfunny, made to appeal to the American equivilant of a Daily Mail reader, who just wants opinions and ideas forced down their throat, despite so painfully obviously being a steaming pile of boring toss.
Saints Row is self aware in the sense THAT IT REALISES THAT GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE FUN. There isn't "satire," because Americans generally don't get proper satire (not to be offensive or generalising there, but compare British shows/comedy to Americanised shows and you will see the difference), just immature jokes. And it's not bad to laugh at immaturity, everybody has an immature side, and if you claim otherwise you're a lying prat; the kind who reads the Daily Mail because they want to feel "clever" about reading a paper (because they think there is some kind of link between being up to date and being respected by your peers)
In other words, GTA doesn't have the kind of depth you claim it to have. It's an argument used by fanboys who can't accept that GTA is a poorly written, cliched, boring mess (and being like that ISN'T funny, or "satirical" in any way)
DuelWieldingGamers I actually hated the writing for GTA 4 and 5 for the very reasons you mentioned. I have a specific love for GTA 3 because the protagonist has the same emotional disconnect from the world around him that the audience does, but after playing through it again, I kinda realized that was entirely accidental. You're right, it has about as much depth, subtlety and meaning as Pain and Gain.
Yeeeah that was his point. He had those two games riding GTA4 and said that it had forgotten that it could be somewhere else besides NY. As in it used to be in Miami and the San Andreas cities but had lost its way and was now not as fun. Oh you, trying to correct Yahtzee. *hearty chuckle*
Same here, I moved to Birmingham for uni, and even that makes Coventry look terrible, but as he said in the end credits, at least we have a statue of a naked lady, not many cities can say that...
the last bits of these videos always get to me Haha
" Drinks wackazade from a clown shoe". I am going to have to work that into conversation.
Good news, Yahtz: _Saints Row_ (2022) is bringing back the customizable socks!!
I mean, really.
Steelport: A lot of skyscrapers. Most of the civilian AI is just walking along a programmed path, or fleeing in terror.
Stilwater: A lot of skyscrapers...Mixed in with churches, trailer parks, restaurants, casinos, docks, college campuses, museums, science labs, secret government bases, underground malls, pirate-themed party boats...And every locale has enough varied activity and AI to seem full of life.
It's a little ironic. In SR2, the main villain was this big corporation that wanted to strip out any heart and soul in Stillwater and turn it into a tourist trap. Then SR3 begins, and the Saints are big shot sellout celebrities with their own energy drink line, and no one even points out the hypocrisy.
I count jumping to the left to catch another route as platforming too.
2:20 - Jesus Christ, that was great.
Well there are cutscenes like that but only if you go to your leautinents instead of directly to the missions. Than there's a little cutscene where they explain why you're doing what your doing like how the Tiger thing is training exercise the Luchalibre guy gives me. Of course the game never tells you that happens and I mostly found out on accident.
How you remember to breathe is a miracle of science.
I think I've come up with an analogy Yahtzee may come up with for SR4.
SR4 is like that rich kid. The one who makes friends with people because he has something they like. "Oh, you guys like The Matrix? Check out my collection" "Oh you guys like aliens? Check out my figurines". You can't help but think that he's insincere. Then, I turned to his bro and asked, "So, you like aliens?" to which he replied "FUCK NO! That shit ain't my style"
My character used to wear a g-string and tights under a business suit as well! He also wore an eyepatch, though...
I think you're right, aside from the fact that I've been up since 7 pm yesterday... I'm so sleep-deprived, I misread this as "STAINS ROW: THE THIRD."
I like how he mentioned the hat tilting, in Saints Row 2 I'd have a tilted hat in the colour of the last rival gang I defeated, when I realised it wasn't in SR3 I just thought 'Oh...'
It's amazing how at 4:56 he has a depiction of Saints Row the 3rd waving goodbye to its former self with a Uncle Sam like hat and now in Saints Row 4 you can run around and do crazy ish as the president of the united states dress as Uncle Sam......
I enjoyed this one more than any other in the series. Those last few minutes when they cranked up Bonnie Tyler's "Holding Out For A Hero" before I managed to save Steelport may well have been the most fun I had in any game that didn't have "Fallout" or "Elder Scrolls" in it.
This is not zero punctuation, this is talking fast. Love your analogies.
I didn't sleep, and now it's 7:20 AM, so I need to go to class in 40 minutes.
Worth it.
True there was less customization in 3 but compared to basically everything else in the market it is incredible.
Any game that allows for a jet bike, at any point, is worth talking about. Man, I loved having that thing around, and if I could have picked it up any sooner, I likely would have.
It's being reviewed again tomorrow. Yay.
I laughed so hard at your comment I choked on an oat cluster.
I must agree, though the sheer "supervillain" level of craziness in SR3 was fun. If we had kept the game mostly SR2-ish but brought in things like hoverbikes toward the end of the game, it would have fit better.
That came out awhile ago as well, but I don't think The Escapist has put it on RUclips yet.
I'll fully acknowledge that games like this series and GTA and all that are probably fine, well-made and have a lot of dedicated fans.
I myself am not one of them however. It's not because I think they're bad, it's just I've never managed to bring myself to play games where the main character is part of a gang or a criminal group of some sort.
It's things like that which are the main reason why I never got into movies like the Godfather or Bonnie and Clyde..
Ben's voice sounds just like Gigguk from Anime Zone Reviews.
You have no idea how much I agree with this is. It's like you're in my head stealing my thoughts. Saints Row 2 is one of my favorite games ever. It gives you a feeling of accomplishment. Saints Row 3 hands you a bunch of shit right out the get-go. I'm surprised that you didn't touch on the upgrading system or buying cars. I myself never felt the need to buy cars in SR3 because they hand them out like a free mints at a restaurant. SR2 doesn't give you anything but a gun, making you buy everything
3rd mission: predator missile. 4th mission: villa safehouse. 5th mission: helicopters.
Im in Australia to and Saints Row IV isn't out in Australia yet. i took a risk of getting the game another way and i got a platinum trophy on it today :) and i have a platinum trophy on Saints Row The Third
The whole helicopter thing is justified kinda because 1, you're not really allowed to use them until the new members show up a good ways into the game, and 2 while the Saints did start at square one in Steelport they still had all of their wares in Stilwater, and considering the distance between the two cities it wouldn't have been hard to send choppers to the Saints for support. Hell the could have sent a lot more if they wanted to, but I'm personally glad they didn't.
While I feel SR3 is the weakest of 2-4 (never played 1), it was a necessary step to get us from SR2 to SR4.
I would love a sandbox game in Coventry :)
I managed to get Saints Row III for about $10. One of the best game purchases I have ever made, especially for that much money.
I prefer to think of it as that weird child in class discovering if he is weird people will pay attention to him, but eventually he is left with about half of the class irritated by it and the other half in love with him.
My primary form of transportation consisted of landing an assault fighter on some poor sod’s front lawn and then lasering the shit out of the surrounding area in order to give it that war zone feel.
Well gameplaywise, it is really the most you can ever get from a 3D fast-paced platformer. If it still doesn't satisfy you, shift to a different genre.
1:55
There. Before you ask for where 'it' was.
+aaron frost (Aaron4Ever) Now I have to ask. What's "It"?
RobotSnake If anyone came for mention of David Bowie.
Not many people, I assume.
aaron frost
Ah, I wasn't thinking of that because the time link is slightly early.
No you can't buy it in Australia but out side you can so if some one were to buy it out side Australia and mail it in because they allow that.
This came out on my seventeenth birthday. I feel special.
Okay, but I doubt it. I'm sure I'll love Saints Row 2, but it won't negate the fun and love I have for The Third, or the fact that's it gotten me through some heavy times out in real life. I'll just like both games for very different reasons.
I agree. I literally played it for like 30 minutes before giving up.
It's the only reason i'm subscribed to this channel silly.
I didn't worry about my lungs turning into balloon animals due to the overexposure to wackiness. I'm already a balloon animal myself so it's all good. :D
my face light up when he said coventry =)
but I enjoy the over the top humor, it mixes well with my desire to RPG an entire city block before running away in a street sweeper I've attached NOS rockets to.
I can't wait until Saints Row 4 comes out... The only reason is that I really want to see Yahtzee's review on it.
ya, I think most of them do, since there are more on the site that will never get uploaded to youtube.
First one I've watched on RUclips. They're delayed by a month or so so I prefer to watch from the website.
Did anyone else notice the purple president's hat he put in there...?
YAHTZEE CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE!
I like the way this game was just goofy fun. We have saints row 2 for the more serious aspect but when you wan to play explosive ammo keepy-ups saints row the third is the best stress release I can find.
I loved the VTOL in SR3. It was like I had my own transformer.
yahtzee is right a game is much more cool when there is a serious person constantly engulfed in CRAZINESS!!!!!!
I can only hope the same thing. Though, with how well the game sold (preorders destroying the records of the previous 2) and how good the reviews were, I'm pretty worried they might stick to it because it's what was (originally) received so well.
3:26 Exactly the reason why I fucking LOVE SR2
Like the 5o Cent referance, i.e you always jump into a chopper to fight things
No turning back now. Its 5 A.M. and I work at 7 A.M.
Random =/= funny
While I agree with Yahtzee that earning rewards feels better than being just handed them, at the same time, one of the things that initially put me off SR3 when it was first announced was the concern that I'd have to work my way all the way up AGAIN, so I was quite glad that you're not too limited in your resources from the start, but you still have to earn the cool new toys like the hover bikes and jets etc.
This review is SO accurate. All of the other zero punctuations make games sound worse than they are, but this is spot on.
the one thing that annoyed me so in this game was the fact that all the misson starts went through your phone meaning sometimes ud have to drive so fucking far because for some reason you happened to be at the other side of the map