PvE is changing a LOT in Phase 3
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harder dungeons sound fun, but multiple difficulties just makes the normal difficulty of the dungeons obsolete
also mythic+ in classic sounds awful
Mythic+ most likely won't ever happen for the same reason as rated PvP. "It changes the players' expectation of balance." which makes perfect sense.
SoD balancing is already a shit show. There's plenty of gate keeping going around, but it's not a big issue because every class and spec is easily able to clear everything. Now imagine trying to get into a higher level key as a class with no AoE or party utility and lower end dps. That's just not gonna happen.
fuck mythic dungeons, heroics maybe like in TBC but other than that would ruin it .
Evidenced by the disaster that is protocol dungeons in WOTLK. The affixes either do nothing or way too much. Just make health pools and damage a bit higher to make up for the power increases imo
@@Yerdone92simple enough for them to do!
Shitty d3 design no one wants this fake content in classic
Honestly, give me a rune which requires a long quest chain through Various dungeons and ends in the raid
No one wanted to go to BFD in classic, so they turned it into a raid. Same with Gnomer. Same thing will happen with ST, it's just the right thing to do.
I love ST but I get that most people don't. It gets run for the lvl 50 class quest and that's pretty much it for the majority of the playerbase
@@deorwynn3597yep and maybe some specific prebis for some classes iirc
i enjoyed it a lot myself, i also enjoyed BFD and Gnomer too :P
BFD was good, but Gnomer was not
We have classic era, season of discovery was soposse to be a NEW classic, what's the point of dont let them change it? If you want pure classic, you have classic era and hardcore. LET THEM COOK
if you want retail just go play retail
People are expected it to be vanilla but better now this is just mini-retail. All classes have everything already its a clown fiesta at this point.
A few changes aren’t bad but this isn’t classic at all. They should just do SOD in retail
@@pandapandsky Vanilla but better? well accord to me, this feels somewhat like vanilla, but better. Did u even raid back in 2005 in a good guild and saw what kind of raid comps ppl took with them and so on? most speccs back then was complete garbage. The only thing i disslike with SoD is the PVP, cause ppl deal way to much dmg. Thanks to equipment that give way to low stamina for the ammount of damage u can push out.
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 raiding in vanilla was much better.
I was thinking doing the entire snake puzzle IN a long gauntlet would be sick.
Heroic + in classic would be an amazing way to not be bored between lockouts
Big ban wave happened earlier this week on bots actually. Rumors are with the extended maintenance on the 12th? I think it was. That there was security upgrades. One of the biggest bot unlockers said there tripwire system was triggered. Reading the discord is so much fun. So many salty botters that want to sue blizzard cause they lost accounts they have had for 20 years.
WHere are the discords with this info, cause i've still yet to see or know anyone banned.
@dylanwillis5165 I'm on the actual bot makers discord the one I'm on is quite easy to find with a Google search and from there I joined a couple other discords that were linked.
Yeah which discord is this i’d like to see
@dylanwillis5165 It's on the actual bot makers discord as well as a couple that you can find linked from there. I'd rather not advertise for them tbh. But I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find the discord with a Google search. That's how I found it.
@@JBelmont7 It's on the actual bot makers discord as well as a couple that you can find linked from there. I'd rather not advertise for them tbh. But I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find the discord with a Google search. That's how I found it.
Noobzu you been living in a time capsule since 2019.
Just give the previous phase dungeons a heroic option which makes them viable for the current phase. Like example rfc, deadmines, wailing caverns, stockade, shadowafng exc, becomes lvl 40 dungeons in heroic mode. Then just make the power of the gear similar to other dungeons around the same levels, or around current pre bis?
I leveled a shadow priest just for homunculi and vampiric embrace, it is just too good.
Difficulty settings would be awful. One of the things that is the absolute worst about tbc and beyond is difficulty modes. Turns the game into an arcade game instead of an rpg.
100% agree. Multiple difficulties just makes the lowest difficulty feel worthless then it's like why even have the options. I think TBC handled it best but it just turned the normal dungeons into an annoying grind to get through.
This is going to be so troll, everyone's just going to fall through the ST stairs just like on hc lol
PvE I’ve been loving it. PvP as a healer is rough. Shamans need the glue to fix their brokenness. Buff the health in PvP to get 2 shot in a BG instead of one shot in open world.
I agree with Moffert, make some new content. Like Karazhan Crypts or something. Hard 5 man dungeons. Like a mini raid.
Im all for harder 5 man dungeons. The ones we got now are complete joke thanks to all the runes.
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 Idk man... have you ever run with randoms in SM? There are a LOT of people that struggle on armory, lib and cath, and its already extremely frustrating playing with these people. I wouldn't want to bump the difficulty even FARTHER so some groups cant even clear a dungeon let alone a raid
@@curlyhairedgamer Ye i have, and i have been in groups that been like what u describe . The difficulty i ask for however dont necessary have to drop better gear. I would be fine with having simular items in stats,, but the only difference would be maybe some different colouring or appearance or pets or something, mby some mount ,tabard or something like that dropping , that makes u stand out abit from the regulars. So what i ask for is nothing that need to be forced on anyone else that dont want to do some "harder 5mans" If they where set for the current max level, That would give me more replay value of 5 mans, even if i already have like the best items. Wich equals to more content" things to do" Might not be the perfect idea, but that would have pleased me more hehe
@@curlyhairedgamer This. Honestly sick of the Tanks pulling 15 mobs and wiping us all.
I want more ubrs like dungeons. Instead of multiple difficulties of the same group size in the same content, do what bfd, gnomer, ubrs and content like zg. Smaller group sizes than 40 but still feels harder than a 5 man. 10 man tuned content scholo, lbrs/ubrs, brd, strath
As much as phase 3 is going to be the okay let’s be real there going to be problem: 1)balance-the classes are going to be either still on top or might get knock down a peg, 2)gatekeeping-it’s stupid boss going to have a dumb mechanic where they need to bring 16 range classes and only 4 melee groups, 3)runes-as much as the runes are cool some either don’t benefit at all or 100%useless.
Im all for harder dungeons difficulty but I hope they just add 1, like in WOTLK classic
I think the new pve raids in SoD have all been an improvement on classic. I like that more specs are viable, and the new tank options create more tank availability.
I don’t like the level caps. I would rather an entire 1-60 leveling phase with all the runes and some new quests/dungeon upgrades, and then raids released at 60.
I also really don’t like the power creep. New abilities are cool, but critting for 2.4k at level 40 is really not! SoD is really fucking up pvp imo.
If harder dungeons were the answer, everyone would be knocking down the doors to get to cata classic over wrath and retail would be successful
What do you mean? Everyone except the loud minority are hyped for Cataclysm!
Being a human warrior this really screws me over.
Racials are now meaningless and i regret going alliance when horde racials are 10 times better...
It just makes me wanna quit playing
The leveling in SoD is a joke tho, so you can reroll faction on different server easy
@@anttihakkarainen1520and put in the time to farm gold, rep, and honor again? no ty
They are going to remove raid lockouts in P4 going forward. Thats the big change to PvE.
what makes you think that?
They should add hidden bosses (with complex summoning conditions) or add new generic items that could be used to make a single boss heroic like the big red button on Mirmiron.
This ^. Or have hard mode activated by doing certain things like how ULD did it.
This would be the best way to go about it, which is similar to what they did with dungeons and the 0.5 gear late in vanilla.
honestly they need to take some of the future dungeons that were made and put em in sod as heroic only dungeons..a stepping stone between dungeons to raids so they can make the raids harder other than 2 mechanics maybe
more content is always better bring on the dungeon +
Am i the only one here actually NOT loving SoD? I know its content for streamers, but cmon :
Theres is 0 content.
- 1 Raid every 3 days that NOBODY will invites you in because you have blue/green parse.
- STV (every 3 hours, and when you didi 15 times its fcking boring)
So not only we have very low content, but we can't do it all the time, its crazy i really dont understand why people like this !
You are stuck at lvl 40 with the only actual content you can do is pvp.
Everybody one shots everybody, 0 new quest lore regarding,
SoD is empty, sadly. Feels like retail
Thanks for your opinion. I would suggest you watch the video Sarthe made on this video today. He gives some tips on how to boost ur parses, and with the purple numbers everyone will let you play. Also consider that there are many games that are fantastic coming out in 2024 alone, not to mention the thousands of other amazing games other than WoW that you can play while we wait for phase 3
How does it feel like retail? Would you rather have 1 button rotations?
Feels like retail???? what kind of stuff are u smoking, have u even played retail? i have, i have played m+ and heroic/mythic content sense Legion, but i have played WoW sense 2005. And SoD feels nothing like retail. It feels like classic with some extra buttons, ye sure u deal way to much dmg now, but other than that, its nothing like retail. Like for instance, Raids in SoD aint even comparable to retail. on Retail u got bosses with like 5-8+ diffrent mechanics depending on if u are running heroic, or mythic and so on, u literaly have oneshot mechanics. how many do they have on SoD ? like 2-3 at best most of them. Tell me, what is it from SoD that makes u think it feels like retail? the abbilities that give u some extra buttons?
@@daltonnelson94 The guy have probably minimum experiance with retail if he acculy think SoD feels like retail
Empty? I can't get away from people! lol. Some valid points though.
They need new quest line new dungeons expand on classic wow new lands
Imagine still playing WoW in 2024.
I bet you also learned to dance from "This is hip-hop !"
Imagine watchin WoW content on YT and being surprised people play games they like 😮
If they make the raid 20 man is GG for my guild and a lot of others, if we want 20 man content we stay on retail
Give us what we want: RDF!
I quit after season 2's nerfs. Hope you are all having fun. Just can't justify dumping so much time into things that get squashed later. Blizzard has no concept of moving the needle. It's a damn hammer or it's nothing.
What class did you play if you don't mind me asking? 😊
10 man best.
i really hope ST is not going to be raid ...why ? BFD has 7 bosses, Gnom has 6 bosses and ST only 5 ffs ....
ST has potential to tune the minibosses into actual bosses, which would mean A LOT of bosses there...
@@anttihakkarainen1520 well , úr too late, we already its confirmed and they added 3 new bosses
@@Syleion Well, lets hope they atleast have some nice and interesting mechanics to make them fun 🤷🏼♂️
Phase 2 was shit alot quit because servers use to be full now saying medium-sized to high
again a react video
this is his react /clips channel
sod sucks :/
Absolutely zero interest in heroic+ I want to play classic not retail or the garbage they turned wrath into
Go to classic era then, SoD was suppose to take elements from Classic and expand on it with a fresh take. Why dont u jump on one of those private servers neckbeards been playing on for 15+ years running the same content over and over again on. I atleast would love to see a more difficult mode on SoD than we have. To me, the mechanics now are way to braindead, and i been playing WoW sense 2005 so i know both vanilla "classic" and been running thrue every single expansion except WoD up to this point, and i play both SoD and Retail. Abit more difficulty aint gonna bother me atleast.
retail, sod and wotlk are doing great. They all have their audiences and are fun for each of them, u want old classic? then go play era or hardcore or a pserver but they won't do another fresh anytime soon so stop bitching, cheers.
Just like others have said, go play Era. Sod should give us a reason to go into lower level dungeons and populate zones. Add new encounters and gear to them, give people challenges while we are on lockout.
Cool so you enjoy roflstomping through under tuned dungeons in SOD once or twice, never running them again, green parsing through the token raid with your crappy guild, then raid logging/quitting after the phase is halfway over?
wrath classic was not that different from normal wrath... just rets, hunters, and feral cats did better, demo locks were made better to play with the demonic pact change, and dungeons had some more longevity... tho the wow token was garbage. if you just didnt do gdkp's and raided with a guild, wrath was gonna be pretty much the same whether these changes existed or not.