Lucy Letby could face a retrial | 'This could be one of the greatest miscarriages of justice ever'
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2023
- Leader of the Heritage Party, David Kurten, and Anti-racism activist and social commentator, Imarn Ayton, comment on the possibility of the nurse accused of multiple murders walking free.
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This is nothing to do with race
I was listerning to this with interest...Right up until the lady starts telling me everything and everyone is a racist .... Rubbish..OFF
This woman could bring race into any argument
What race got to do with it
Not sure what you mean. Foreign doctors are the biggest cause of accidental deaths in hospitals.
@@wespaul9345 exactly
But not in a useful way!
You can't say that, it's racist 😂
Lets hope this black women never gets picked for jury service, her 'unconscious bias' is blatantly obvious.
If the defendant is black she will find them innocent and if the defendant is white she will find them guilty.
It has to be unconscious to be unconscious bias. She is just a racist and hates white people. I bet she is angry because she exists in a country built off of the backs and blood of white people. She should move to America, she fit right in with the race grifters there.
What on earth has this got to do with racial prejudice fgs!
Race, should never be an issue!
It will always be an issue to racist people like that female guest.
What is the black woman saying? That if LL was black she would have been found even more guilty??
The opposite of what she said would be more of the truth.
She has one hell of a big chip on her shoulder.
I think she is saying that if she was black the public wouldn't be doubting the verdict as much.
@@robroots2492 seen on loads of shows....she thinks everybody is a racist
She would! Fact! When this case started there were people the same colour as Letby saying she was innocent! As if they were in the same room. Ridiculous!
Who knows what any of these race baiters are on about? They're always black though, which is interesting.
I can honestly say when young, living near Southall, having Asian; Black; Irish & Caribbean neighbours never worried me. The older I get the more I don't like seeing and hearing abuse of our country. Is that racist??? IMO the female guest has a chip on her shoulder.🤷♀️
Agreed.
Racism do exist even in the NHS
Ofc she does. She is one of these 'its cloudy today because the sun has been institutionalised to be racist'
She's a professional race grifter, makes money off her pretend victimhood
I love that you can hear she's masking her real accent; she's using her 'posh' voice 😂. You can hear da ghetto queen underneath 😂
Oh God not that woman, need to turn off now.
seen her on loads of shows......she thinks everyone who is not black is a racist
She doesn't realise she is only revealing her own prejudices. Those who talk the loudest etc etc...
These racism nay sayers also dont realise they are harming their own cause. When everything is racist its hard to find the real racism.
she is really crazy....it had sod all to with racism
@@paulrichards6894you're right Paul :)
Why is this woman‘expert on everything because it’s always about racism’
How is she an expert if her every answer is -it’s racism!
If Lucy wasn’t white then the media tone would be different in reporting
Prejudice can be applied by anyone to anything. I think she knows everything because she has huge fake eyebrows.
Tickled me, that. Does she become a "leading" expert when she adds trout pout lip filler@@mspenelope6874 ?
It's almost as if GB news is trying to prese t you with a specific narrative isn't it?
@@marcel-jt3dyYou mean jealously loool, none of these people attacking her argument just her sign she is right and they insecure and hate hearing the truth so attack her instead to feel better changes nothing she said
Why is race brought into everything 🤦♀️
To bring support to an injustice?
When they don`t have the answers.
this woman brings race into everything....who thought she would be a good guest....she said nothing about lucy letby....she contributed nothing
woke Karens
@@kitcat4512again what's that got to do with race ?
Why oh why do we have to suffer this black burden of soil in our country?
WTAF?
Trust that grifter to make it all about race
The lady banging on about institutional racism had too much make up on for an interview like this.
Looked bloody ridiculous.
Plus she is not worth listening to as she makes every single issue in the world about race which is obviously stupid. As in this case.
I thought it was an Alien...till I heard what it spewed out. 😮
@@MariaLopez-hc2nm 😂
This woman guest represents everything that hardworking British taxpayers are up against.
She legitimately must have the mental age of an 11 year old
And they call us racists .
Why would they even bring her on to comment! She obviously can't think about anything other than in terms of colour/race. My opinion.
Hideously racist..wouldn't dare come on TV and say that sh1t about 50 million people in their own country..dam she angry
@@seanharvey8051 Indeed, though more of the problem is that people who don't have a mental age of 11' pander to, and placate these individuals.
Institutional racism is a lie. Show us UK laws that are racist.
No it's not. Institutions literally require Critical Race Theory to be taught. That's racism. And they literally reported a woman being sacked for refusing to go ahead.
Institutional racism is real, its only directed towards white people tho
Yeah the people are the racist ones you donut
The left are the only ones who are racist.
seen this woman before she sees racism every where...didn't think i would be watching something about lucy letby and they would be talking about race
I am afraid I can't think of a single black nurse who has been jailed for killing patients in the UK. I can name several white ones (both male and female) who have been accused alongside those who have been found guilty. I would suggest that she directs her comments towards praising the skills and integrity of the nurses she claims to represent. And when has it been considered acceptable journalism to allow someone to voice an opinion on a national news channel without calling on them to provide facts in support?
Poorly educated… look up the stepping hill killer he was a non white nurse
That's because black people aren't investigated for crimes anymore.
The police was told not to investigate the black grooming gangs of london and manchester because to do so would be racist.
Yes . Despite the NHS having record numbers of black and Asian nurses , none have killed children .
@@Fontana-sb9ui......no wonder, who would dare report them.....
@@Beauloqs where are the facts based on your assumptions? Any suspects? Any cases? It's obvious that white Brits kill more people than other races in this country.
How often has it go to be explained to people, especially the like of Kurtin, that 'circumstantial evidence' is evidence? This si an ignorant opinion.
The woke drivel that comes out of some people’s mouths is unbelievable.
It would make more sense if you understood white privilege
No it’s because your falling for the bait
Oh my word.... This has absolutely nothing to do with race! What is she on about!!! 😳
Another black racist given air time!
How many black nurses were investigated in this case and how many have been on Trial for murder?
Sopprts groups gor a serial killer myiu could nt make it up
Insulin in the blood is not circumstantial. It was put there by the murderer, Lucy Letby.
Yeh its not like anyone ever has insulin in their blood...
As was the air and milk, also found to have been injected. Plus there was the infant who had signs of a sharp instrument having been pushed down it's throat, which caused massive blood loss. The child later died. Letby was the *only* nurse present on the ward. If she says didn't do any of this, then how come didn't see who did?
@@Brian-om2hh NOTHING was found to have been injected, nothing. As for infants have their throats cut, its utter dribble. As I said NO evidence was presented that ANY unnatural deaths occurred...
1.14 (one point 14) times more likely to be disciplined. Can she even hear what she is saying?
That might be because they have done something wrong
Colour has nothing to do with it , a killer is a killer
That woman looks like something from another planet!
The fact is she has a whole of life sentence and may be tried again for another possible murder. End of story.
Yes basically she didn't 'get away with it' and this does look like she has been wrongly convicted.
We have just seen, with the blood scandal, that the NHS and Government will conspire with the Courts, to wrongfully convict innocent people to cover their own mistakes.
Race, really!!!
that woman could bring race in almost all discussions
She would be wasting everyone's time and money.
If we’re so irredeemably racist, they should leave.
The irony is staggering. The woman who claims people stereotype others based on race stereotypes people as racist.😵💫
What is that woman talking about racism for?
Lol it's so random 😅.
Nothing to do with race.
People appealing for Letby?! Are you all fking crazy?!
And would they allow Letby to look after their babies? That's the clincher......
of cause she thinks its all about race that's all she says about everything, why do they have this woman on every time 😠
Legend has it that woman is still talking...
What????? Who is the racist black woman?
She's had her fair trial already!
No she hasn't
Yes, and she openly lied several times during it. That alone could merit a prison term.
Too much filler sweetie!
The exaggerated tilt of her head is an immediate tell - cluster B
She is right she is the most prejudice person I have ever heard and do not know why she is always on TV.
What utter nonsense! She's totally guilty as sin! A retrail is utterly meaningless for hecks sake!
Guilty as sin? On what evidence?
@@dixienormous2440 Are you for real?! 🤦
@@jettserUK17 Name a single piece of evidence...
@@manoo422 Then do your research and you will find out very easily! Your ignorance is plain silly.
@@jettserUK17 You cant can you...
if she was a he and called Liam Letby then no one in the world would care .
Nothing to do with racism. What is this woman on?
She's guilty. If you followed the trial. You would know that.
Clearly you didnt.
@@manoo422clearly you yourself didn't.
Many have died in police hands, even in custody the have been slyly murderd, NO MATTER THE COLOUR
She did it, she said she did it and people still think she had nothing to do with it
She didnt do anything of the sort, your are believing press manipulation/lies to fool the feeble minded.
Talking bollocks, this individual was guilty the other cases should go ahead the victims and their families deserve justice.
Tough on those who thinks she’s not guilty, keep her in jail.dint waste taxpayers money.
KURTIN IS WAFFLING NONSESNE. HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE CASE.
He does know about the case. And he is clearly more informed than you are.
@@juenothing5432 You know even less than Kurtin does. He is a pompous ass.
Spoiler: she won't.
WTAF is Imarn Ayton banging on about? The likes of her do not want the people of this country to get on together
who thought it would be a good idea to bring her on a show debating the lucy letby trial
Why was this woman being interviewed ? She is a one-trick pony and that one trick has sweet FA to do with the matter at hand!! Couldnt they just find a normal person who could argue coherently against the notion of Letby’s supposed “mistrial”?
It's NOT about dead babies, it's about US - The black community
This chick speaks like some sort of black injustice bot. It's just reflex phrases without any thought.
Problem is; in court, they are trying to win. Not find the truth!?
We are talking about a child killer,nothing to do with bloody skin colour........Absolute rubbish.
Not this black woman please!
If she was white would you say "not this white woman" Or just not this woman. You have priced her point.
Unfortunately the Judge was non medical and directed the jury to ignore basically most if not all of the sub optimal care which he said would have no effect on the case, whereas each and every failing in care I shall not list they are out there for people to see could and did effect the outcome. As soon as I read the clinical failings I knew she was innocent.
Twaddle, ignorant nonsense and rubbish.
This is one bizarre segment.
Another twist in the killer nurse story.
If the blond quite pretty lucy letby was a quite ugly male the guilt wouldnt be questioned
Lucy Letby gets A Retrial for Baby Murder She’s Definitely Guilty of Baby Murder and There’s No Appealing & No Miscarriage in That Hospital in Cheshire Either.
Lucy Letby Won’t Ever Get out of Jail What So Ever
SHE IS INNOCENT ....THE SYSTEM KILLED THOSE BABIES AND SHE WAS A SCAPEGOAT FOR POOR GOVERNMENT POLICIES
Was going to watch this until I saw Imarn 😂
If the evidence presented wasn’t accurate, why didn’t her defence team raise that? She’s guilty. Accept it. The woman didn’t cry for the dead babies and the deaths significantly reduced once she was gone.
The second main reason for a retrial is because her 'defense' made no attempt to defend her!!
Why should she cry about deaths she had no part in? The deaths stopped when they finally fixed the leaking sewage pipework above the ward...
Right?! It would have been very convincing if the defense could have produced a chart to say "Between X date and X date, there were 17 deaths in total. Of these, X deaths were expected and explainable whilst Y deaths were not. Of the Y deaths that were not, Lucy waa not present for Z of them and not just come off a shift. Even with the babies who survived, Lucy wasn't there when Children deteriorated. She was on night shift later AFTER it happened or on annual leave etc so there is a total lack of correlation." Something as basic as this could have stopped her going to prison for LIFE... You don't think the defence or even family and friends would have had this idea and used it if there was evidence in her favour that they could have provided?
@@manoo422I refuse to believe you're being serious and not trolling.
@@ellea2541because she's guilty. End of story.
@danswhite8544 What did the 'eye witnesses' see...her at work? so you have seen pics of Letby with her hands around an infants neck...I dont think so. 'Blunt force trauma' opinion! Insulin? there was NO evidence that ANY insulin was EVER used. Air injected?? but no proof!! 'over feeding' again completely subjective.
Letby was only present for 8 out of 15 deaths, there is NO direct evidence that ANY of the deaths were not natural........
Lucia de B was presented with the same certainty in the Netherlands. And we all believed it because of the way the narrative was told.
You need to look at the case , 4 year in depth investigation . It isn’t the same as Netherland
Its nothing like that case, if you look deeper. Its so lazy to compare them
@@joycejnnthey were unlikely to survive so small
As a victim of my baby being terminated against my will by its mother, it makes me think..If she wanted to kill very early stage development (same weeks old as very premature ones that can be saved) babies why didn't she just go to work in an abortion clinic then she could have done that all day long and been supported in her right to do that by law and by lots of society? Also If she was there for 7 of the 17 deaths and that's why she got found guilty didn't the prosecution think about the fact some of the cleaners were maybe in the rooms for 100% of the cases? Why weren't they investigated or charged?
@@markdepaor4956 It is very like that case and Lucy Letby will also be found innocent
This was poor reporting on behalf of this channel. There will not be a retrial for the things she is already convicted of. The prosecution have ordered a retrial for one of the cases which could not be proved beyond a reasonable doubt at the time. It is for the benefit of the grieving parents who want to see justice done in relation to the death of their baby. Lucy will stay in prison for the rest of her life anyway. I think the programme was arguing that maybe because of all the media coverage of the original trial it will be hard to find jury members who have not read or heard about the case, and so the outcome of this retrial regarding the one baby which did not get proved beyond reasonable doubt will already be decided in their own minds.
The channel after not making this remotely clear then gave space to guests who brought totally irrelevant issues into the equation. The whole thing was a mess in terms of journalism to be frank.
People complaining about race being brought into it HAVE THAT ENERGY FOR AFRICAN RACE WHO PLAY THAT CARD EVERY CHANCE THEY GET
In episode it was quoted in the trial Dr Evans opinion. IF this is the 'expert' from Wales who touted his services to the Chester Hospital AND had never worked with Neonatals, so what good is his opinion
why are we letting guests in our country constantly abuse us ?
I looked at the evidence, it is extremely poor that the court did not take into account the very poor medical care given. The state of the unit, the RCPCH report. There was so much evidence that Lucy Letby was hung drawn and quartered.
She stalked parents on facebook. Took paperwork relating to the babies home and had hand written confessions saying she was evil.
It's critical she faces a retrial on some charges because it acts as a safety chute in case her appeal, for some unbeknownst reason, is successful on the first trial. This will keep her in prison no matter what.
If Lucy faces a retrial the flawed evidence at her first trial will be revealed
What if the reason for the success of her appeal is that she's innocent? Autopsies showed the babies died of natural causes. What if there was no crime?
Anyone else feel like we’re now living in an alternate universe & not for the better 😝
What's Aemon done to his face?
What has racism got to do with this case?
This woman just whips up hatred.
in a neonatology unit there will sadly be deaths of babies. This death rate is watched very carefully by the doctors involved and investigated to check cause and for any sudden increase in the death rate. Did the death rate increase during this time that she was there. Has it settled back to the background rate.? Is this defender of her actually saying that because 17 babies died then that means that she cannot have caused any deaths.
'Bad people are much more likely to be criticised - that's clearly prejudice'.
Guilty as sin.
Not when you listen to facts. We must wait and see.
@@shinelight727already done that. She's convicted.
Not a fan of Imarn Ayton.., swaps the topic all over the place... 👎
Ffs that women 🙄. I’m so thoroughly sick of all this being rammed down our throats continually. It’s got to be stopped 🤨
I agree use surname only, using first name is like talking about a friend
Why is "prejudice naturally involved" ?. It appears the female being interviewed already has her own set agenda. What the bleep is she talking about.
I can’t imagine how the parents of those dead children must feel when ppl are using this tragic case in an attempt to speak about racism
It would make more sense if you understood white privilege
This woman who brought immediately in the discussion "the race" should be more concerned about blk African nurses, especially those from Nigeria, >600 of them are suspected of passing fraudulently UK tests. And the (low) levels of knowledge and commitment are so obvious on the wards in case of many, not all, of them
Can't help but think of those white british nurses I worked with who spent all their time sitting on their backsides refusing to do anything because they were "in preceptorship".
They always bring her on to bring controversy to their program just to rile people up and you all fall for it it’s all BS I wouldn’t even get drawn in to blaming everything on race and pitting right against left
That bloody awful woman. I'm out
People develop prejudices because of their experiences
Because she's female. That's the only reason there's doubt here.
That's all.
@@UberFoX A few?
A few?
It was more than a few, wasn't it.
Perhaps you can articulate your argument better.
@@UberFoX She wasn't accused of murdering 33 people.
She was accused of murdering 7 babies and attempting to murder 6 others.
Do keep up.
David Kurten raises valid concerns. All the evidence was circumstantial. No one witnessed her doing anything wrong at the time.
How many murderers kill with witnesses?
No, the insulin injection could have ONLY come from an external source...somebody definitely did inject insulin into the baby and that was Lucy Letby. The doctor saw that she purposely did not give treatment to a baby...but when Lucy noticed that the doctor was looking at her, she panicked and quickly gave the life saving apparatus back into the baby. There are so many pieces of evidence that show that Lucy Letby was the killer. Not only that...the police are saying that she killed in previous hospitals she worked in. Your 17 upvoters are losers. After she was fired from hospital, the death rate of babies dramatically dropped...since she was the serial baby murderer. It is 100 percent a fact that Lucy Letby murdered those babies.
Babies seem to die under her care and staff knows she is killing babies
@@run2cat4run People died because of government decisions made during covid. Don`t see Handcock or any others on trial for murder.
@@run2cat4run - and a lot of babies died who were not under her care. Leave to appeal must be granted as the evidence overall is unsatisfactory. I'm not saying she's innocent, but the Court of Appeal must review the evidence.
This could be one of the most expensive trials to the public purse than any before
God please don't let that evil woman walk free
She won't be walking free.
What the heck has this to do with race?
Black women always angry lol 😂
Wtf has race got to do with it 🤷🏾♂️🤔
Pretty clear that Lucy is a sociopath, anyone, that’s described as the nicest person you’ll ever meet always is
Those bastard extremely nice people. It was time someone had the courage to speak out.
still think she had help to be able to carry on for so long
We can all see this woman's prejudice that's for sure, accompanied by her boring word salad.
I have the same concerns with David Kurten as do lots of people. Also why do people have to bring race into everything?
that woman is crazy....who thought she would be a good quest to have on.....this had zero to do with race.......
Ever notice how it's always black people who bring race into everything?
Another member of the peaceful English community 💀 Such valuable contributions to our multicultural society lmaoo 🤣