I’m from New Mexico but my wife’s family is in Wyoming. We lived there for a while back in 1981. I have to agree with you. Wyoming has history that matches New Mexico in depth and stories. I really enjoyed living there and getting a chance to visit. Casper and Cheyenne are both cool towns!
The biggest problem I have with Tom Horn's conviction was that it was coerced. Get the man drunk, and he will tell you about how good the bread was at the Last Supper. There was no trail after Horn's "confession"....in the end, he was hung by his own reputation. He got drunk, was arrested, and woke up in a cell without knowing why. He may have been a man killer and a known bushwacker, but he was still respected in his community. The reason he was hanged using the method that was used was because no one in town wanted to be the one to pull the lever. My favorite Tom Horn quote was when he was being led out his cell to the gallows. His guard was a drinking friend of Horn's and was noticeably upset by the circumstances. Horn asked him what was wrong. The guard responded, "I ain't never been to a hangin' before." To which Horn responds with a smile, "Don't look so down. I ain't never been to one, neither."
He supposedly was hung for killing a teenage boy. The truth is he had killed the boy because the ranchers who set him up had purposefully dressed the boy like his Dad. Willie was out riding herd on the cows, not fixing a gate. Tom shot the 'man' dressed like Mr. Nicholl as he had been instructed to stop the wars between those ranchers.
@patriciajrs46 Yes. He was hanged because of the death of Willie Nicholl. But as I said, that doesn't prove that Horn killed the boy. A conviction based solely on a drunk man's confession is not the kind of thing that would work for a court today. Looking at the evidence, (or lack of it) Tom Horn was so well known in his methods as a cattle detective that anyone could have easily recreated the scene to make it look like Horn pulled the trigger. The weapon, the caliber, the ambush, all well known to be Horn's signature. But we all know that any signature can be *forged*.
@@patriciajrs46 Willie was wearing his own clothes. He was on his way to Bosler to hire a sheepherder. He was shot while closing a barbed wire gate after leading his horse through.
@@patriciajrs46 Willie Nickell was wearing his own clothes. U.S. Deputy Marshall JOe LeFors visited the Nickell home a couple of days after the murder and saw Willie's bloodstained jacket hanging next to this father's.
If you watched the movie it's easy to have an affinity for Tom Horn especially when played by actor Steve McQueen, and movies always lean towards the dramatic rather than historical substance. P.S. loved the line in the move which went along the lines of "if you think that a 45/60 that has a trajectory like a rainbow could make that shot than it was the best shot I ever made and the dirtiest trick I'd ever done"
I definitely liked and subbed, love this kind of stuff, I do family genealogy so it's kinda in my blood. I really liked the movie, have watched it many times and will watch it again, really don't know about its accuracy but its a good movie overall, plus I have always been a fan of Steve McQueen. Thank you, this was excellent.
I don't think Horn worked for the Millers. He did work for John Coble in Wyoming, representing an "association" of ranches to stop the cattle rustling. When Laforge, the Lawman who got Tom drunk when he supposedly got what was called a confession, was based on a stenographer's testimony. The stenographer, Olhmhaus, (not sure of the spelling) was in another room taking down the conversation between Horn & Laforge from which the supposed confession came from. While Horn was in prison, He wrote letters (or at least A letter) to Olmhaus imploring him to tell the truth. Glendalyn Kimmel (not sure of the spelling) was a schoolteacher & friend & admirer of Horn's. According to a letter from Kimmel, there was a feud going on between the Miller's & the Nickle's & she thinks one of the Miller's shot Willie by mistake. You can read the book "Tom Horn Government Scout & Interpreter", by Tom Horn which he wrote while in prison. He gave the manuscript to John Coble, who after a period of time had it published along with letters regarding Olhmhaus, Kimmel & I think Coble. When I worked at the Sun Ranch in the Sweetwater Valley at Devil's Gate, they had a museum at the ranch with a horsehair bridle" documented to have been braided by Tom Horn". It's in a glass display case at the ranch.
Another fantastic history lesson! Thanks so much! It never ceases to amaze me the contradictions that each of these western legends embody. Tough times render tough, and not always very nice or moral, individuals.
Cool video, Tom Horn was also involved in the Pleasant Valley Wars, near Young Arizona another Cattle vs Sheep situation where the final victim was killed in 1935 a very long feud.
Love the series can’t wait for more on people like frank canton,pat Garrett,John Welty Hardin,Dallas stoudenmire etc. also if Tom horn did really hit willie nickels from 300 yards with a 30-30 round no wonder the rustlers feared him so much.
It makes you really think about the wild wild West about ranchers and farmers today that people just have no idea of any history sadly they are removing history and burning up the land and the cattle and the food until God steps in and returns the food the land to the people after they repent and pray to him that created all God is merciful and will bring back that which was lost
Thank you for sharing....I believe Tom was killer No doubt about it ! Was he guilty of the crime he was hung for , I don't think so. I believe he was framed for the killing. Ton was swift with frontier justice. He was guilty of a lot, His life just caught up to him. Thanks for sharing . I was impressed
As you correctly point out, people are "convinced" both for and against his guilt for which he was hanged. Personally I don't think he was guilty of that murder, but had more than enough blood on his hands to accept his fate as a man who had outlived the rough and tumble times that brought him to his fate.
Tom Horn was hired to run off the homesteaders so the cattle barons could take more land for them selves. There's a rare book called "The Banditi of the Plains" that told the story of the gunmen hired by the catttle barons and their activities. Almost all of those have been bought up by the families of the cattle barons, some of whom I knew years ago.
One of Tom’s rifle a 1893 chambered in a .30-.30 caliber is in the museum in Buffalo, Wyoming. Had to drop in and see the display of my relative. Old Horns were tough and you certainly didn’t cross their paths. We all came out of mountain stock in Kentucky.
I saw the Horn collection at the museum in Buffalo. A friend and I got a personal tour of the whole museum by this older gentleman back in the 80s. The man pulled out the leather wrist protectors of Horn's and had me put them on. Then he pulled out the lariat and rope Horn made and put them in my hands. Wow! Putting your hands on history. Fantastic!
Back then there were only so many chamberings available, literally every shooting happend with a 30 ,44 or 45 or shot gun , ballistic /forensic science was barely a notion, also guys that hunt down bad guys tend to get the right man, this I think was what he meant by "dirty trick" I don't think he would have shot a child , it's not his M.O. Good video, love the history
I’ve read he always placed a rock (like a pillow) underneath the head of the victim. I believe it was reported they found a rock underneath the boys head. Not that is conclusive, another could have done this to implicate Tom. I hope all have a happy and healthy day. Cheers!!
Toms 3030 model 94 rifle was in dodge city KS at the boot hill museum in the late 90's ive seen it personally and had it in my hands . Haven't been back there since then ' and dont know if its still there . He also had some 4560 cartridge's in his vest pocket when he was arrested. John colble from the iron mountain ranch his employer ' committed suicide in a Ladies parlor in elko Nevada not to long after the note he left was to his wife ' I'm all done in ' the deed is done and then shot himself in the head . No one talks bad about Tom Horn in the state of Wyoming without a conversation battle . Sincerely ' A Wyoming Resident.
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing. I just watched Tom Horn last week. Great movie. I feel he was set up by some of the Ranchers that had hired him. No one will ever know what actually happened.
My wife wanted to drive to Chicasha Oklahoma to see the leg lamp lit up but said it wasn’t worth the four hours to see it. I told her that we’d have to stay there for at least a couple of hours to eat while we were there! 😎. Gotta stretch it out while you can. I have several leg lamps but not a full sized one, yet.
We ran 4000 head of sheep and 1000 head of cattle on the same ranch. The sheep and cows did not compete for food. The sheep are more browsers and run in the high country. The sheep and cattle wars were more of a war between the Mormons and anti Mormons than sheep and cattle owners. Thanks for the history.
I think the Winchester .30-30 cartridge was the first smokeless American sporting rifle cartridge. Which is a big advancement in shooting with being seen. Since there was no cloud of black smoke giving you away.
I would point out that an unofficial mock re-trial of Tom was held in Cheyenne at the Laramie County Courthouse in September of 1993 with retired Wyoming Chief Justice C. S. Brown as the presiding judge. The case was heard by 20 jurors who volunteered for the jury. All original evidence was presented to them by two attorneys, Robert Skar of Thermopolis, WY (prosecution) and Joseph Moch of Grand Rapids, MI (defense). He was acquitted posthumously of all charges.
Running his mouth got him killed. The movie opens with him getting beat up by a prizefighter because of his mouth. In his memoir he recalls getting his dog killed (because of running his mouth). The guy simply didn't know when to STFU.
I've heard of Tom Horn, but never heard any details of his life. It sounds as though if the standard of beyond any reasonable doubt was applied in a fair trial, Horn would be found not guilty. The hanging method sounds like torture designed to end in death.
I have a question about the cabin, is it an original? I really like it, I enjoy the stories also. Also, the drop on a 30/30 at 200 yds is about 20 inches and at 300 I think it's about 3 and a half inches. I am just guessing.
I think that even though witnesses claimed Tom was 20+ miles away from the murder site the "powers that be" had already planned on Tom being done away with because at some point things would turn on them.
The main reason that form of hanging was discontinued was the Catholic church claimed it was a form of suicide by forcing the condemned to cause the loss of his life by merely standing where he was told to stand. For you more mature people Catholics are why we had fish sticks on Fridays in school cafeterias.
One of our relatives, Uncle Newt Kelly, nearly killed Tom Horn in a knife fight in Baggs, Wyoming. Horn didn't do all of his attempted killing from long distance.
Not gulity -- i lived in Cheyenne rode my road bike near iron mountain a few times. He wrote to his mother over the years, worked for Teddy. I believe after losing his cattle in Arizona -- it became personal. He was great at his trade of killing. I believe the big money ranch owners north of Cheyenne wanted a scapegoat for killing rustlers. Equals nickles incident ---
Enjoyed this one deeply, shoot the 94 two times and that's enough! Personally I find David Carradine the better Tom Horn...Siebert called him a... big mouth and I believe that he did it, in the way you do. All the best from Northern Germany Ludwig.
You don't mention that Horn attempted to escape jail while awaiting hanging. He overpowered a deputy and took his pistol. He could not fire at his pursuers however because the pistol was either a Mauser C96 or Luger P08 semiautomatic, and Horn couldn't figure out how to make it shoot.
"Tom was the 5th of 12 children." God bless his mother. No man can imagine the physical pain and bodily wear and tear birthing 12 offspring causes. No wonder women welcomed birth control with open arms.
I don't believe Tom Horn was a psychopath. I believe he was a product of the violence of that time; he played "the game" they set before him, and as their bouncer/protector, was as violent as they wanted him to be. Those three men set him up to take the fall!! They hung him for play, then rescued him and later brought further charges against him. He was a scapegoat for high powered Wyoming ranching/political interests. They won, he lost.
Charictorizing the.30-30 as inaccurate at 300 yards is just silly. Even with just the factory sights it’s more than able to make the shot in the hands of a rifleman that knows his rifle.
I have the movie “Tom Horn “ over the years I’ve read one book about the man and his life ! After the book , I would have to say without any real hard physical evidence to link Tom to the boys killing , I would say no ! Was he a psychopath? No not from the information I’ve read , he didn’t walk the streets killing people for the thrill of it ! But it makes a better story to label him as a cold blooded killer out of the old west ! Range or stock detective he was hired to stop rustling and livestock theft and to use his own judgement, bring them in or shoot ! He was used then it was time to get rid of him as his actions would and did effect powerful ranchers political standing and that didn’t look good in the newspapers and wasn’t !
It is. This is definately an area known as the Great Black Swamp. It was drained for farm land beginning in the 1830's. That process continued for decades not ending until the late 1800's. I film in Hancock County, Wood County is a massive one and houses great little towns like Bowling Green Ohio and Perrysburg. Thanks for watching!
Why would Willie be wearing his father's clothes and hat unless kels set his son up knowing Tom horn was after him then Tom would be arrested and all the while kels could go Bout his business.knwing Tom was in jail lonewolf
NW corner of Colo . Browns hole then . Now Browns Park. Canyon of ladore , Swinging bridge .. John Jarvie ranch..... I lived and ranched up there .. I know that area , Very well.
Been reading about him for years and just 5 weeks ago, visted his grave in Boulder. Don’t think he’d be impressed by all the buildings/homes/construction around him, nor the god-awful liberal cesspit that it is. RIP.
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Great autobiography of Tom Horn,, learned a lot from this thanks for sharing
Read Tom Horns book. It called “Life of Tom Horn “ written by himself
Biography not autobiography
@ your right, thanks for the correction.
I also enjoy these videos thanks for doing them.
Living in Cheyenne, I pass by the room were Tom Horn was interviewed almost on a daily basis. I love the history here.
I’m from New Mexico but my wife’s family is in Wyoming. We lived there for a while back in 1981. I have to agree with you. Wyoming has history that matches New Mexico in depth and stories. I really enjoyed living there and getting a chance to visit. Casper and Cheyenne are both cool towns!
@@dr.froghopper6711 I would love to know how Truth or Consequences NM got it's name, lol.
I've been there. I used to live in Wyoming. For years.
What an awesome, informative series. Very interesting, thanks for the insight
I am glad you are enjoying the channel. These are some of my favorite videos to do.
Read Tom Horns book. Its title is The Life of Tom Horn … written by Himself.
The biggest problem I have with Tom Horn's conviction was that it was coerced. Get the man drunk, and he will tell you about how good the bread was at the Last Supper.
There was no trail after Horn's "confession"....in the end, he was hung by his own reputation. He got drunk, was arrested, and woke up in a cell without knowing why.
He may have been a man killer and a known bushwacker, but he was still respected in his community. The reason he was hanged using the method that was used was because no one in town wanted to be the one to pull the lever.
My favorite Tom Horn quote was when he was being led out his cell to the gallows. His guard was a drinking friend of Horn's and was noticeably upset by the circumstances. Horn asked him what was wrong. The guard responded, "I ain't never been to a hangin' before."
To which Horn responds with a smile, "Don't look so down. I ain't never been to one, neither."
He supposedly was hung for killing a teenage boy. The truth is he had killed the boy because the ranchers who set him up had purposefully dressed the boy like his Dad. Willie was out riding herd on the cows, not fixing a gate. Tom shot the 'man' dressed like Mr. Nicholl as he had been instructed to stop the wars between those ranchers.
@patriciajrs46 Yes. He was hanged because of the death of Willie Nicholl. But as I said, that doesn't prove that Horn killed the boy. A conviction based solely on a drunk man's confession is not the kind of thing that would work for a court today.
Looking at the evidence, (or lack of it) Tom Horn was so well known in his methods as a cattle detective that anyone could have easily recreated the scene to make it look like Horn pulled the trigger. The weapon, the caliber, the ambush, all well known to be Horn's signature. But we all know that any signature can be *forged*.
@@patriciajrs46 Willie was wearing his own clothes. He was on his way to Bosler to hire a sheepherder. He was shot while closing a barbed wire gate after leading his horse through.
@@patriciajrs46 Willie Nickell was wearing his own clothes. U.S. Deputy Marshall JOe LeFors visited the Nickell home a couple of days after the murder and saw Willie's bloodstained jacket hanging next to this father's.
If you watched the movie it's easy to have an affinity for Tom Horn especially when played by actor Steve McQueen, and movies always lean towards the dramatic rather than historical substance. P.S. loved the line in the move which went along the lines of "if you think that a 45/60 that has a trajectory like a rainbow could make that shot than it was the best shot I ever made and the dirtiest trick I'd ever done"
Great information... keep them coming, please.
Really enjoyed your history video. Well Done Sir!
I definitely liked and subbed, love this kind of stuff, I do family genealogy so it's kinda in my blood. I really liked the movie, have watched it many times and will watch it again, really don't know about its accuracy but its a good movie overall, plus I have always been a fan of Steve McQueen. Thank you, this was excellent.
Excellent video. First I’ve watched from your channel. Just subscribed. Going to binge awhile.Very cool!
I don't think Horn worked for the Millers. He did work for John Coble in Wyoming, representing an "association" of ranches to stop the cattle rustling. When Laforge, the Lawman who got Tom drunk when he supposedly got what was called a confession, was based on a stenographer's testimony. The stenographer, Olhmhaus, (not sure of the spelling) was in another room taking down the conversation between Horn & Laforge from which the supposed confession came from. While Horn was in prison, He wrote letters (or at least A letter) to Olmhaus imploring him to tell the truth. Glendalyn Kimmel (not sure of the spelling) was a schoolteacher & friend & admirer of Horn's. According to a letter from Kimmel, there was a feud going on between the Miller's & the Nickle's & she thinks one of the Miller's shot Willie by mistake. You can read the book "Tom Horn Government Scout & Interpreter", by Tom Horn which he wrote while in prison. He gave the manuscript to John Coble, who after a period of time had it published along with letters regarding Olhmhaus, Kimmel & I think Coble. When I worked at the Sun Ranch in the Sweetwater Valley at Devil's Gate, they had a museum at the ranch with a horsehair bridle" documented to have been braided by Tom Horn". It's in a glass display case at the ranch.
thank you. My dad took me to see the movie when I was a kid. Its nice to understand it now. He was a cowboy fan, and an Israeli paratrooper.
Another fantastic history lesson! Thanks so much! It never ceases to amaze me the contradictions that each of these western legends embody. Tough times render tough, and not always very nice or moral, individuals.
Loved the picture show and now I know the history of Tom Horn . Thanks ever so much from old New Orleans 😇
Cool video, Tom Horn was also involved in the Pleasant Valley Wars, near Young Arizona another Cattle vs Sheep situation where the final victim was killed in 1935 a very long feud.
And probably help the early oil companies aquire all that land after the owners went missing 😂
Love the series can’t wait for more on people like frank canton,pat Garrett,John Welty Hardin,Dallas stoudenmire etc. also if Tom horn did really hit willie nickels from 300 yards with a 30-30 round no wonder the rustlers feared him so much.
I know right!! That thing tumbles at 100. Thanks for the views, Matt and I really appreciate.
Awesome! Thanks for some history on him. I just watched the movie of Tom Horn last night.
It makes you really think about the wild wild West about ranchers and farmers today that people just have no idea of any history sadly they are removing history and burning up the land and the cattle and the food until God steps in and returns the food the land to the people after they repent and pray to him that created all God is merciful and will bring back that which was lost
Loved the movie about Horn.
Don’t know how true it was , but it was at least one of my favorite movies
Thank you for sharing....I believe Tom was killer No doubt about it ! Was he guilty of the crime he was hung for , I don't think so. I believe he was framed for the killing. Ton was swift with frontier justice. He was guilty of a lot, His life just caught up to him. Thanks for sharing . I was impressed
Great lecture and video!
Love the scene in the movie where a lobster is set on a plate in front of him and he says I've never eaten a bug that big.
FABULOUS ADDENDUM TO THE MOVIE! WOULD BE A NICE SPECIAL FEATURE ON A DVD OF THE MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As you correctly point out, people are "convinced" both for and against his guilt for which he was hanged. Personally I don't think he was guilty of that murder, but had more than enough blood on his hands to accept his fate as a man who had outlived the rough and tumble times that brought him to his fate.
The information I found, and after reading the transcript of the trial, the Winchester 76 was use but he also used a Winchester 94 in 30-30.
My grandfather testified at his trial. His name is mentioned in Dean Krakel’s, “Saga of Tom Horn”.
You have a very balanced and objective way of presenting history thank you sir, Subscribed.
Laforge instead of lafores , thats funny.
Thanks for a good presentation. Would not surprise me if Tom Horn owned several rifles. He did use them professionally.
Loved the Steve McQueen movie. It went pretty easy on him, but it made me want to learn more about the man.
Tom Horn was hired to run off the homesteaders so the cattle barons could take more land for them selves. There's a rare book called "The Banditi of the Plains" that told the story of the gunmen hired by the catttle barons and their activities. Almost all of those have been bought up by the families of the cattle barons, some of whom I knew years ago.
One of Tom’s rifle a 1893 chambered in a .30-.30 caliber is in the museum in Buffalo, Wyoming. Had to drop in and see the display of my relative. Old Horns were tough and you certainly didn’t cross their paths. We all came out of mountain stock in Kentucky.
While I was told we were no relation, I can attest to "Horn tough". My dad's Uncle Fred served in WW2 when he was 40 years old.
I saw the Horn collection at the museum in Buffalo. A friend and I got a personal tour of the whole museum by this older gentleman back in the 80s.
The man pulled out the leather wrist protectors of Horn's and had me put them on. Then he pulled out the lariat and rope Horn made and put them in my hands. Wow! Putting your hands on history. Fantastic!
Back then there were only so many chamberings available, literally every shooting happend with a 30 ,44 or 45 or shot gun , ballistic /forensic science was barely a notion, also guys that hunt down bad guys tend to get the right man, this I think was what he meant by "dirty trick" I don't think he would have shot a child , it's not his M.O.
Good video, love the history
I’ve read he always placed a rock (like a pillow) underneath the head of the victim.
I believe it was reported they found a rock underneath the boys head.
Not that is conclusive, another could have done this to implicate Tom.
I hope all have a happy and healthy day. Cheers!!
Loved the film with Steve McQueen as Tom Horn...
Like the film David Carradine did as well. Both films were great.
Thank you very much!!! 👍👍😎
Tom Horn was a tough man born of tough times.
Still horn was a murderer. No debate
Toms 3030 model 94 rifle was in dodge city KS at the boot hill museum in the late 90's ive seen it personally and had it in my hands . Haven't been back there since then ' and dont know if its still there . He also had some 4560 cartridge's in his vest pocket when he was arrested. John colble from the iron mountain ranch his employer ' committed suicide in a Ladies parlor in elko Nevada not to long after the note he left was to his wife ' I'm all done in ' the deed is done and then shot himself in the head . No one talks bad about Tom Horn in the state of Wyoming without a conversation battle . Sincerely ' A Wyoming Resident.
Very interesting video, thanks for sharing. I just watched Tom Horn last week. Great movie. I feel he was set up by some of the Ranchers that had hired him. No one will ever know what actually happened.
My wife wanted to drive to Chicasha Oklahoma to see the leg lamp lit up but said it wasn’t worth the four hours to see it. I told her that we’d have to stay there for at least a couple of hours to eat while we were there! 😎. Gotta stretch it out while you can. I have several leg lamps but not a full sized one, yet.
I love old west legends. When men were real.
A few good books / bios written about Tom Horn. Does anyone read anymore. Never the less thanks for this
We ran 4000 head of sheep and 1000 head of cattle on the same ranch. The sheep and cows did not compete for food. The sheep are more browsers and run in the high country. The sheep and cattle wars were more of a war between the Mormons and anti Mormons than sheep and cattle owners. Thanks for the history.
It was said that Nichols was shot with 45-70 big differences in wound diameter. 45-60 could not make the distance
Very good presentation.
I think the Winchester .30-30 cartridge was the first smokeless American sporting rifle cartridge. Which is a big advancement in shooting with being seen. Since there was no cloud of black smoke giving you away.
They call a man a socialpath from a age different from this time it a world not like ours with values different from anything we live with
I would point out that an unofficial mock re-trial of Tom was held in Cheyenne at the Laramie County Courthouse in September of 1993 with retired Wyoming Chief Justice C. S. Brown as the presiding judge. The case was heard by 20 jurors who volunteered for the jury. All original evidence was presented to them by two attorneys, Robert Skar of Thermopolis, WY (prosecution) and Joseph Moch of Grand Rapids, MI (defense). He was acquitted posthumously of all charges.
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Book on Tom Horn is "Blood on the Moon".
Is it documented
Interesting
Tom grave is in Boulder Colorado.
Running his mouth got him killed. The movie opens with him getting beat up by a prizefighter because of his mouth. In his memoir he recalls getting his dog killed (because of running his mouth). The guy simply didn't know when to STFU.
I've heard of Tom Horn, but never heard any details of his life. It sounds as though if the standard of beyond any reasonable doubt was applied in a fair trial, Horn would be found not guilty. The hanging method sounds like torture designed to end in death.
Do you have a video on Mysterious Dave Mather!
I have a question about the cabin, is it an original? I really like it, I enjoy the stories also. Also, the drop on a 30/30 at 200 yds is about 20 inches and at 300 I think it's about 3 and a half inches. I am just guessing.
Rough justice required rough men.
I think that even though witnesses claimed Tom was 20+ miles away from the murder site the "powers that be" had already planned on Tom being done away with because at some point things would turn on them.
The main reason that form of hanging was discontinued was the Catholic church claimed it was a form of suicide by forcing the condemned to cause the loss of his life by merely standing where he was told to stand. For you more mature people Catholics are why we had fish sticks on Fridays in school cafeterias.
Sounds like we could use a few Tom Horns
I bought a horse by the name of Tom Horan. He was a sweet guy.
One of our relatives, Uncle Newt Kelly, nearly killed Tom Horn in a knife fight in Baggs, Wyoming. Horn didn't do all of his attempted killing from long distance.
Not gulity -- i lived in Cheyenne rode my road bike near iron mountain a few times. He wrote to his mother over the years, worked for Teddy.
I believe after losing his cattle in Arizona -- it became personal.
He was great at his trade of killing.
I believe the big money ranch owners north of Cheyenne wanted a scapegoat for killing rustlers. Equals nickles incident ---
Enjoyed this one deeply, shoot the 94 two times and that's enough! Personally I find David Carradine the better Tom Horn...Siebert called him a... big mouth and I believe that he did it, in the way you do. All the best from Northern Germany Ludwig.
which is crooked ? The post or the door frame ? That’s what struct me watching the narrator sitting on this porch.
You don't mention that Horn attempted to escape jail while awaiting hanging. He overpowered a deputy and took his pistol. He could not fire at his pursuers however because the pistol was either a Mauser C96 or Luger P08 semiautomatic, and Horn couldn't figure out how to make it shoot.
30-30s are know for key holing past 100yds???? Really
Blue arms?
"Tom was the 5th of 12 children." God bless his mother. No man can imagine the physical pain and bodily wear and tear birthing 12 offspring causes. No wonder women welcomed birth control with open arms.
I don't believe Tom Horn was a psychopath. I believe he was a product of the violence of that time; he played "the game" they set before him, and as their bouncer/protector, was as violent as they wanted him to be. Those three men set him up to take the fall!! They hung him for play, then rescued him and later brought further charges against him. He was a scapegoat for high powered Wyoming ranching/political interests. They won, he lost.
I thought he used a 38-55
Charictorizing the.30-30 as inaccurate at 300 yards is just silly. Even with just the factory sights it’s more than able to make the shot in the hands of a rifleman that knows his rifle.
Caliber was 45-60.
He got screwed
If I would have lived back in those days I would have made him look like a Sunday School teacher…😁
Spare us..
@ NO!
I have the movie “Tom Horn “ over the years I’ve read one book about the man and his life !
After the book , I would have to say without any real hard physical evidence to link Tom to the boys killing , I would say no !
Was he a psychopath? No not from the information I’ve read , he didn’t walk the streets killing people for the thrill of it !
But it makes a better story to label him as a cold blooded killer out of the old west !
Range or stock detective he was hired to stop rustling and livestock theft and to use his own judgement, bring them in or shoot ! He was used then it was time to get rid of him as his actions would and did effect powerful ranchers political standing and that didn’t look good in the newspapers and wasn’t !
He lived with the apache spoke it and could run 50 miles without water his favorite whiskey was old overholt rey
why on gods earth would you ink up your arms like that?
Tribal tattoos?
Black swamp is this in Wood county Ohio
It is. This is definately an area known as the Great Black Swamp. It was drained for farm land beginning in the 1830's. That process continued for decades not ending until the late 1800's. I film in Hancock County, Wood County is a massive one and houses great little towns like Bowling Green Ohio and Perrysburg. Thanks for watching!
Why would Willie be wearing his father's clothes and hat unless kels set his son up knowing Tom horn was after him then Tom would be arrested and all the while kels could go Bout his business.knwing Tom was in jail lonewolf
Being John Hardin's fifth cousin I must say, this man like my cousin had severe mental illness.
John Wesley Hardin, !! One of my favorites...
nice... just take out that inked unresolved puberty from your arms... ts beyond ridiculous...
45-60 he never owned a 45-70
NW corner of Colo . Browns hole then . Now Browns Park. Canyon of ladore , Swinging bridge .. John Jarvie ranch..... I lived and ranched up there .. I know that area , Very well.
"30-30 will "keyhole" past 100Y".....what planet are you from......
"murder", "psychopath",....you obviously are a bleeding heart,...until something happens to you.....lol....you must be a "good christian".....lol
No one cares
Yawn 🥱...
Been reading about him for years and just 5 weeks ago, visted his grave in Boulder. Don’t think he’d be impressed by all the buildings/homes/construction around him, nor the god-awful liberal cesspit that it is. RIP.
Ya want to know some shit about Tom .. read some of Chip Carlson's books about this legend. !! !!
Psychopathic ,,, because of the abuse of his father
Tom Horn 👍👍👍👍👍