Five teams other than the Habs passed on him for a reason, which they have multiple scouts. They have to be a reason, maybe they will get it all wrong but probably not.
Because of his contract situation, Michkov could almost pick which teams he wanted to play for and I am sure his agent let some teams know about it; that would explain why Arizona did not pick him. Montreal as usual went for needs with Reinbacher since they really liked him anyway...!!!
Of note: Bobrov's dad is a scout of Michkov's KHL team. I imagine we had inside baseball on not just his potential as a player, but also his character and personality. I really don't think passing on Michkov was a decision based on his skill, but rather a decision based on his personality and circumstances.
@@jobeaudoin10 he is playing for biggest team in KHL, and he is 18, Bédard, or Carlson would also be scratched. Again it's the second best league in the world, not the Canadian teenager league.
Tony , remember the Drouin video that you used to put out and you know how that turned out. They mean nothing. Yes it’s impressive but it doesn’t make him a star in a game
That doesn’t justify the habs who have lacked offensive talent since the damn 90’s to skip a generational offensive superstar 🤡 look how many skipped kucherov. Ffs cole caufield was skipped 14 times bc of his size and look how stupid some of those teams feel.
@@Hassounah82- So winning a Norris trophy? I'll take that bet. No way no how. He wouldn't have been the top dman in either the 2021 draft (Power, Hughes and Edvinsson all superior prospects) or the 2022 draft (Nemec and Jiricek for sure and possibly Korchinski and Mintyukov). Just Montreal fan trying to spin another reach as anything more than that. GM said he was a #2 defenseman.
In three years when he is finally available, michkov will be lucky to make the NHL. If nothing else, he is likely to be mis-coached, and underused. Why should a team he is going to leave, spend any time developing him for the NHL. The Russian psyche, as we are seeing in Ukraine, is such that ‘if I can’t have something, then no one can have it.’
u take the best talent its not rocket science fellas.... michkov was after bedard pretty simple.....u let the rest sort its self out...steady freedy d guys are always available but a potential superstar are not! image St-Louis with him for a few yrs this russian will be better then Kiprisov Massive Mistake by Habs!!! cheers from Sudbury Tony!!!🍻🍻
@@powers1500 I get it. I'm aware. We all know. But 2 things. He seems more methodical, than Timmins. What I don't like is that some of the old staff is still around like Boisvert and Audette. Should have completely cleaned house. 2nd, regardless of the above, Bobrov's father works at SKA. Safe to assume that information was procured eh? Who else is better qualified to make a decision? Perhaps the reason is the possibility of Michkov being forced to sign an extension. And maybe Michkov didn't want to play in Montreal? He did not grant Columbus an interview.
@@yannik9341 I understand what you mean andyou have valid points. If Mchkov did not to play in Montreal, they could have just said it and it would have been the end of the debate, but Montreal really liked Reinbacher so they took him anyway...!!!
@@powers1500 it's public relations in my opinion. It's professional to say that you picked the guy you wanted. Not professional to say Michkov refused to play in MTL which makes him look bad, or that they feared getting him out of Russia which makes Russia look bad. It also plays on the mind of Reinbacher that he otherwise wouldn't have been a Top 5. The best way is to simply say we got the guy we wanted and pat him on the back. I suspect that people will eventually talk on the record if/when Michkov outplays Reinbacher, and if he doesn't outplay him, then people are going to be happy with Reinbacher and the comparison stops, or when he retires someone might say, oh, we were lucky because we wanted Michkov. Not before
In game theory, each choice is also a ‘negative’….in other words, even choosing Bedard is a pass on ever other player. Short answer, SIX teams passed on Michkov.
Reinbacher needs a couple of years, but he will be the "Swiss Army" of D-man for Montreal. It will take him 5 years to be part of the leadership of Montreal. Michkov will never be part of the leadership of any NHL team. Montreal has so many prospects that they will poach a player that will give them the additional goal scoring that they will need in the near future. Let Kent manage this, trust in his plan, his plan is to win and he knows the players and as Gorton and him put it together, they will manage the risk. Whether they take a step back at any time, they will never eat any of the crap these guys are saying about Michkov. David is looking for the opportunity to prove Montreal right, and he will. Whether he scores 60g and 100pts, he will be a potential minus player, on a team that is lacking the highend talent needed to win.
I hope Michkov scores 60 goals and 100 plus points. All those character attacks should come back to bite the teams that passed on him other than Bedard (possibly) in the backside. Bet this guest saw him play a lot more than the other guest that constantly bad mouths him.
The Montreal Canadiens along with their media friends are basically attempting to make Michkov look bad to make the fans accept their pick (Reinbacher) which was not very popular on draft day. If Michkov becomes what he is supposed to be in the NHL, it will be a similar situation as for KK/Tkatchuk all over again...unless Reinbacher becomes himself a star defenseman...which I doubt since scouting reports describe him as a likely second pairing defenseman !!!
I guarantee that if the Habs did not pick Reinbacher none of the habs fans or media would care one iota about Reinbacher nobody would care.If we picked Mitchkov everyone would be high fiving it and nobody would be saying we should have picked Reinbacher.This is called blind fanbois no sense of reality. Did not have Reinbacher anywhere near my top 20 because we need several quality forwards so I expected Hughes to pick as many forwards as possible. There is one obstacle that a Russian player like many other juniors has to over come and that is a longer NHL grind. What happened to Mitchkov is the Nickleback meme all over again a bandwagon was started and all the dummies jumped on it and were like oh yeah this kid has an attitude problem ..lmao.
Indeed, Reinbacher was ranked in the twenties for most of the last season but his stock only started rising approx. a month prior the draft because the scouts realized that he might be the best defenseman available in a very bad draft year for defensemen. Now certain fans/media want us to believe that he might become another Seider or Dahlin...I hope they are right!!!
For Bergevin, it is the Drouin trade and the drafting of KK that stuck negatively the most in people's minds; for HuGo, that could potentially be the drafting of Reinbacher over MIchkov if he becomes a superstar. As David Ettedgui said, some people could possibly lose their jobs for it...time will tell !!!
Tony, your effort is there, you get some great stories, but your desire to push and make the team regret what they do is laughable. You've overplayed the Michkov story instead of understanding and trusting in the decision made by the team. It's amost like you feel that they need to regret their decision to draft Reinbacher, because you understand soccer/football more than you understand hockey. Your ego and justification is getting in the way of the fact that the team has a plan; the Hughes plan will trump the Marinaro plan. You might have had a couple of inside stories, but you're beating a dead horse because neither has played an NHL game. My belief is, if they take him slowly and don't rush Reinbacher, they end up with a dman that makes you eat your words. I hate to say this, as I support and subscribe to your channel, I scout for a team that I will be walking away from shortly that is a feeder that they don't know yet. Michkov is a winger, a scorer, but he's not a centerman with dominate capabilities to control the game. He has skills, he might have had more scoring potential than Ovi, but he is playing in a weaker league than Ovi played in, different times, different eras, almost a 20 year difference with a weaker KHL than before. You need to grow your vision insead of being so locked on a guy that Montreal didn't pick. I will watch you one last time, improve your content. I'll be back moving to Montreal in early December to get my nephew into prep school.
YOU SUMMED IT UP PERFECTLY HERE!!! The only difference between Montreal & Arizona was the Yotes mgmt admitted Michkov ghosted them whereas the Habs group was too proud to say the same bc it's true he just wanted Philly ...
Why is this so complicated??? They were never going to wait 3 years. HuGo and group will be fired if they don't make the playoffs in the next 3 seasons before Michkov even shows up. Duh they went with a big skating RH Dman who will be playing 20 min/game here next season.
I’m over the Michkov thing! I know he’s skilled, but his attitude in the locker room seems to be a cancer! Not a team player so I’m happy with our pick! I’ve played hockey and there’s nothing worse than that “ ONE” guy who’s not about the team…. Just himself and his stats! We don’t need individuals but team kinda guys!
I can't wait to see all the Reinbacher deniers fall flat on their faces. Stop saying that we wanted an offensive star so badly, that we would wait three years for a player who doesn't even want to play with MTL. A player with a god complex that was well scouted by the Habs management team. They say Reinbacher is the best Dman of the last three drafts, he is right handed, he always loved the Habs and a great kid from all accounts. In 3 years Reinbacher will be a solid Dman and still developing, while Mitchov may not even be in the Flyers uniform. Sorry Tony, I love you but it's time to stop whinning about this pick.
This guy is BS. Bedard was the best player in the U 18 gold game in Texas. I was there. To compare him Bedard right now, nonsense. Mitchov is not better than
@@rgood1204 Had the most points. About winning in the biggest game, that counts. Are dumb enough right now. To tell me you think Mitchov is at Connor Bedard Level today. Seriously 😂
@@rgood1204 I did not ignore facts. Yes Mickov won the MVP. Most points. I was at the final in Frisco, TX. When Canada got physical with him, ha disappeared. Bedard dominated that game. Bedard is stronger, better edges, and has a shot that is NHL ready now. For this idiot, To say Mitchov would get 24 points in 7 games at the WJC. Is embarrassing.
u take the best talent its not rocket science fellas.... michkov was after bedard pretty simple.....u let the rest sort its self out...steady freedy d guys are always available but a potential superstar are not! image St-Louis with him for a few yrs this russian will be better then Kiprisov Massive Mistake by Habs!!! cheers from Sudbury Tony!!!🍻🍻
This guy was entertaining in the end. Great show!
Sick!!!
Today 10 years old kids can do these drills. Not saying hes not good but it's not saying much to what he's going to do in the nhl
Two good picks for Montréal and the Flyers
Future guest for sure. Alright! Ok!!
Five teams other than the Habs passed on him for a reason, which they have multiple scouts. They have to be a reason, maybe they will get it all wrong but probably not.
Because of his contract situation, Michkov could almost pick which teams he wanted to play for and I am sure his agent let some teams know about it; that would explain why Arizona did not pick him. Montreal as usual went for needs with Reinbacher since they really liked him anyway...!!!
Of note: Bobrov's dad is a scout of Michkov's KHL team. I imagine we had inside baseball on not just his potential as a player, but also his character and personality. I really don't think passing on Michkov was a decision based on his skill, but rather a decision based on his personality and circumstances.
Bobrov said ‘pass’ on Michkov.
Stupid logic, if Michkov is bad then why Bobrovs dad got him, and keeps him in the SKA team?
@@ЮрийКастро-м5в logic has nothing to do with it. It’s what Bobrov advised HuGo.
@@ЮрийКастро-м5в Stupid logic, if he's that good why was he a healthy scratch for the SKA home opener?
@@jobeaudoin10 he is playing for biggest team in KHL, and he is 18, Bédard, or Carlson would also be scratched.
Again it's the second best league in the world, not the Canadian teenager league.
BTW, my 12 year old nephew can do a lot of that stuff already
the cope here in the comments are hilarious. Hughes didn't want the risk period, ... 'Michkov will be. a star in the nhl
Deja vu!!!!!!
Tony , remember the Drouin video that you used to put out and you know how that turned out. They mean nothing. Yes it’s impressive but it doesn’t make him a star in a game
I don't want to be a jerk but Naslund got his 110 pts with Bobby Smith. Not Tremblay.
This is so speculative. There are dozens of scouts for 5 other NHL teams who passed on this kid. I side with our new management team
I was pissed that they pass on Michkov and I kinda got over it during summer. Now Im fuckin pissed again.
Yeah, what do they know when there's so much (free) expertise in internet's comment sections.
Michkov is the next Russian bust...
Wisely he didn’t want him. It’s both the three years contract and they knew something
But yet all these scouts have passed on him. Lol
Him 64 and h
hi can do what he does!!!!
relax because the HABS fan want a super star it's why you are not happy
6 other teams passed on him. Must be a reason.
That doesn’t justify the habs who have lacked offensive talent since the damn 90’s to skip a generational offensive superstar 🤡 look how many skipped kucherov. Ffs cole caufield was skipped 14 times bc of his size and look how stupid some of those teams feel.
David Reinbacher gonna be next the victor hedman
@@Hassounah82 yea and slafkovsky is the next matthews right?
@@Hassounah82- So winning a Norris trophy? I'll take that bet. No way no how. He wouldn't have been the top dman in either the 2021 draft (Power, Hughes and Edvinsson all superior prospects) or the 2022 draft (Nemec and Jiricek for sure and possibly Korchinski and Mintyukov). Just Montreal fan trying to spin another reach as anything more than that. GM said he was a #2 defenseman.
@@Hassounah82better hope he is
In three years when he is finally available, michkov will be lucky to make the NHL. If nothing else, he is likely to be mis-coached, and underused. Why should a team he is going to leave, spend any time developing him for the NHL. The Russian psyche, as we are seeing in Ukraine, is such that ‘if I can’t have something, then no one can have it.’
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u take the best talent its not rocket science fellas.... michkov was after bedard pretty simple.....u let the rest sort its self out...steady freedy d guys are always available but a potential superstar are not! image St-Louis with him for a few yrs this russian will be better then Kiprisov Massive Mistake by Habs!!! cheers from Sudbury Tony!!!🍻🍻
We going to regret biggg time not drafting him 😢
Worh the risk.... indeed.
But then if it fails y'all would be on KH's back for taking such a risk.
Nobody is going to lose their job. I trust Bobrov the Russian about Michkov the Russian.
Yeah, by the way, Bobrov's track record is not that great and even got his butt fired in New York !!!
@@powers1500 I get it. I'm aware. We all know. But 2 things. He seems more methodical, than Timmins. What I don't like is that some of the old staff is still around like Boisvert and Audette. Should have completely cleaned house. 2nd, regardless of the above, Bobrov's father works at SKA. Safe to assume that information was procured eh? Who else is better qualified to make a decision? Perhaps the reason is the possibility of Michkov being forced to sign an extension. And maybe Michkov didn't want to play in Montreal? He did not grant Columbus an interview.
@@yannik9341 I understand what you mean andyou have valid points. If Mchkov did not to play in Montreal, they could have just said it and it would have been the end of the debate, but Montreal really liked Reinbacher so they took him anyway...!!!
@@powers1500 it's public relations in my opinion. It's professional to say that you picked the guy you wanted. Not professional to say Michkov refused to play in MTL which makes him look bad, or that they feared getting him out of Russia which makes Russia look bad. It also plays on the mind of Reinbacher that he otherwise wouldn't have been a Top 5. The best way is to simply say we got the guy we wanted and pat him on the back. I suspect that people will eventually talk on the record if/when Michkov outplays Reinbacher, and if he doesn't outplay him, then people are going to be happy with Reinbacher and the comparison stops, or when he retires someone might say, oh, we were lucky because we wanted Michkov. Not before
In fairness 5 teams passed on him since Chicago would have only taken Bedard
In game theory, each choice is also a ‘negative’….in other words, even choosing Bedard is a pass on ever other player. Short answer, SIX teams passed on Michkov.
Take a shooter every time he says: let me tell you
Reinbacher needs a couple of years, but he will be the "Swiss Army" of D-man for Montreal. It will take him 5 years to be part of the leadership of Montreal. Michkov will never be part of the leadership of any NHL team. Montreal has so many prospects that they will poach a player that will give them the additional goal scoring that they will need in the near future. Let Kent manage this, trust in his plan, his plan is to win and he knows the players and as Gorton and him put it together, they will manage the risk. Whether they take a step back at any time, they will never eat any of the crap these guys are saying about Michkov. David is looking for the opportunity to prove Montreal right, and he will. Whether he scores 60g and 100pts, he will be a potential minus player, on a team that is lacking the highend talent needed to win.
I hope Michkov scores 60 goals and 100 plus points. All those character attacks should come back to bite the teams that passed on him other than Bedard (possibly) in the backside. Bet this guest saw him play a lot more than the other guest that constantly bad mouths him.
You must be Russian
The Montreal Canadiens along with their media friends are basically attempting to make Michkov look bad to make the fans accept their pick (Reinbacher) which was not very popular on draft day. If Michkov becomes what he is supposed to be in the NHL, it will be a similar situation as for KK/Tkatchuk all over again...unless Reinbacher becomes himself a star defenseman...which I doubt since scouting reports describe him as a likely second pairing defenseman !!!
Bust
I guarantee that if the Habs did not pick Reinbacher none of the habs fans or media would care one iota about Reinbacher nobody would care.If we picked Mitchkov everyone would be high fiving it and nobody would be saying we should have picked Reinbacher.This is called blind fanbois no sense of reality.
Did not have Reinbacher anywhere near my top 20 because we need several quality forwards so I expected Hughes to pick as many forwards as possible.
There is one obstacle that a Russian player like many other juniors has to over come and that is a longer NHL grind.
What happened to Mitchkov is the Nickleback meme all over again a bandwagon was started and all the dummies jumped on it and were like oh yeah this kid has an attitude problem ..lmao.
Indeed, Reinbacher was ranked in the twenties for most of the last season but his stock only started rising approx. a month prior the draft because the scouts realized that he might be the best defenseman available in a very bad draft year for defensemen. Now certain fans/media want us to believe that he might become another Seider or Dahlin...I hope they are right!!!
Nice podcast with all respect he saw Michkov 13 times but dont know really some bad side of Michkov that Canadian know
People will pay to come watch Michkov score goals but not to Habs games just for Reinbacher.
For Bergevin, it is the Drouin trade and the drafting of KK that stuck negatively the most in people's minds; for HuGo, that could potentially be the drafting of Reinbacher over MIchkov if he becomes a superstar. As David Ettedgui said, some people could possibly lose their jobs for it...time will tell !!!
Is this a joke!!
Tony, your effort is there, you get some great stories, but your desire to push and make the team regret what they do is laughable. You've overplayed the Michkov story instead of understanding and trusting in the decision made by the team. It's amost like you feel that they need to regret their decision to draft Reinbacher, because you understand soccer/football more than you understand hockey. Your ego and justification is getting in the way of the fact that the team has a plan; the Hughes plan will trump the Marinaro plan. You might have had a couple of inside stories, but you're beating a dead horse because neither has played an NHL game. My belief is, if they take him slowly and don't rush Reinbacher, they end up with a dman that makes you eat your words. I hate to say this, as I support and subscribe to your channel, I scout for a team that I will be walking away from shortly that is a feeder that they don't know yet. Michkov is a winger, a scorer, but he's not a centerman with dominate capabilities to control the game. He has skills, he might have had more scoring potential than Ovi, but he is playing in a weaker league than Ovi played in, different times, different eras, almost a 20 year difference with a weaker KHL than before. You need to grow your vision insead of being so locked on a guy that Montreal didn't pick. I will watch you one last time, improve your content. I'll be back moving to Montreal in early December to get my nephew into prep school.
Great show, yes Mitchkov has awesome talent, my only worry is , how well will he adapt to a smaller size rink snd a more physical game.
He's been playing on a small rink for the past 3 years...
The kid said he will only play in Philly, there’s nothing the Habs were going to do about that. People gotta move on.
YOU SUMMED IT UP PERFECTLY HERE!!! The only difference between Montreal & Arizona was the Yotes mgmt admitted Michkov ghosted them whereas the Habs group was too proud to say the same bc it's true he just wanted Philly ...
Why is this so complicated??? They were never going to wait 3 years. HuGo and group will be fired if they don't make the playoffs in the next 3 seasons before Michkov even shows up. Duh they went with a big skating RH Dman who will be playing 20 min/game here next season.
I’m over the Michkov thing! I know he’s skilled, but his attitude in the locker room seems to be a cancer! Not a team player so I’m happy with our pick! I’ve played hockey and there’s nothing worse than that “ ONE” guy who’s not about the team…. Just himself and his stats! We don’t need individuals but team kinda guys!
Sources - salty habs fans.
I can't wait to see all the Reinbacher deniers fall flat on their faces. Stop saying that we wanted an offensive star so badly, that we would wait three years for a player who doesn't even want to play with MTL. A player with a god complex that was well scouted by the Habs management team. They say Reinbacher is the best Dman of the last three drafts, he is right handed, he always loved the Habs and a great kid from all accounts. In 3 years Reinbacher will be a solid Dman and still developing, while Mitchov may not even be in the Flyers uniform.
Sorry Tony, I love you but it's time to stop whinning about this pick.
What's done is done jibber jabbering about will not change a damn thing. Why does media have to beat things to death? In life you move on. Capisce?
He knows soccer? Really? Ah, one forward should stay high to spread the defense and reduce the numbers of people in the box. Tool.
Michkov, more like... Bustkov.
Sorry guys but 6 teams pass on Michkov thers a reason why and by the way the video you show not impress me at all he look slow
if he hates to lose why he meet the flyers an say he didnt want to go the caps? flyers no cups in 50 years
That dude is pumping his shoes so hard, i don't think he is as credible as these radio expert pretend.
This guy is BS. Bedard was the best player in the U 18 gold game in Texas. I was there. To compare him Bedard right now, nonsense. Mitchov is not better than
Why did he win the MVP award then?
@@rgood1204 Had the most points. About winning in the biggest game, that counts. Are dumb enough right now. To tell me you think Mitchov is at Connor Bedard Level today. Seriously 😂
@@nicholas-bz5sh - tough to debate someone who makes things up and ignores facts. Where did I compare him to Bedard?
@@rgood1204 I did not ignore facts. Yes Mickov won the MVP. Most points. I was at the final in Frisco, TX. When Canada got physical with him, ha disappeared. Bedard dominated that game. Bedard is stronger, better edges, and has a shot that is NHL ready now. For this idiot,
To say Mitchov would get 24 points in 7 games at the WJC. Is embarrassing.
Youre so clown
Stop with the cheap gimmicks.
u take the best talent its not rocket science fellas.... michkov was after bedard pretty simple.....u let the rest sort its self out...steady freedy d guys are always available but a potential superstar are not! image St-Louis with him for a few yrs this russian will be better then Kiprisov Massive Mistake by Habs!!! cheers from Sudbury Tony!!!🍻🍻