Greece's Attempted Airborne Assault On Cyprus Was A Brave, But Disastrous Failure

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • On the evening of the 21st of July 1974, the Greek military attempted to intervene directly against Turkey in Cyprus by means of an airborne landing at Nicosia. Unfortunately things didn't really go to plan, demonstrating the weaknesses in tactical planning and strategic leadership that dogged both sides during the campaign.
    A polite reminder that this is an aviation history channel, not a political one. Please endeavour to keep your comments civil and on the topic.

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  • @Sirius-Voyager
    @Sirius-Voyager Месяц назад +186

    There are only a few successful Airborne Operations in War History. American and British Airborne operation in Normandy. German Airborne operation to Crete island. Turkish Airborne operation in Northern Cyprus.

    • @MrSpantis
      @MrSpantis Месяц назад

      German airborne operation in Crete? With more than 8000 casualties? And Hitler was so disappointed that never use airborne operation again?

    • @Adventeuan
      @Adventeuan Месяц назад

      due to incompetency

    • @Fruzhin5483
      @Fruzhin5483 Месяц назад +13

      Based last example

    • @ΓιώργοςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-φ5υ
      @ΓιώργοςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-φ5υ 29 дней назад +6

      I wouldn't call the German operation a success. Yes they captured the island but the casualties were far too many

    • @Fruzhin5483
      @Fruzhin5483 29 дней назад +2

      @@ΓιώργοςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-φ5υ ...
      Repeat that again, but slowly

  • @ggoddkkiller1342
    @ggoddkkiller1342 Месяц назад +366

    During that time there was a general belief as Turks were bluffing and couldn't launch an operation while US and NATO were against it. There were only two governments actively warning, obviously Turkish government and British government. Turkish PM even personally went to UK and offered them a joint operation to remove EOKA terrorists from power. But they refused as it might had caused another Greek war against British forces on the island. Turkish PM called back home and gave the password for operation to begin without even waiting to return.
    I really doubt Lebanon actually offered such a thing as Turkey would certainly consider it as an act of war and even launch airstrikes against their airfields. Turkish army had this 'zero tolerance' mindset back then too and would retaliate for any direct involvement regardless which country it was. This was also why Greek forces destroyed their own planes so their involvement couldn't be noticed. I understand some people might find it too harsh but Turkish government warned literally everybody in UN then in NATO then went to UK and offered a joint operation plan. Not like they chose war instantly but all they could get was 'bla bla bla' while an extremist organization seized the government and Turkish Cypriots were actively targeted! After it became a war everything was on table, if US directly involved Turkish army would even target US forces. That's why US personals in Turkey like İncirlik base began wearing body armors and trying to fortify their barracks by blocking windows and doors..

    • @trevorhart545
      @trevorhart545 Месяц назад +36

      Greece in 1974 started a WAR, like Argentina in 182, but made a Balls Up. Still maning but they are t blame. Sad lss f ver 30 BENEFIT "0"

    • @FYMASMD
      @FYMASMD Месяц назад +10

      The Turks were smart enough to not F with the US. That would have been a serious blunder.

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Месяц назад +139

      ​@@FYMASMD It seems like you misunderstood something, as a guarantor state of Cyprus Turkey had every right to intervene when an extremist organization staged a coup. In fact you can't find a single UN resolution condemning Turkish operation. Even then if US directly involved to protect Cyprus against international laws there was no way on Earth Turkey could watch it rather there was going to be a retaliation 100%. So correct sentence should be US was smart enough to not get involved..
      There wasn't a single Turkish operation in last 100 years which was against international laws, not a single one. But there were many in US side like fabrication of WMD in Iraq? Acting against UN resolutions?? Not only starting wars one after another also directly supporting more illegal wars which even include war crimes! But even then it is always Turkish side acting aggressive, violating international laws etc while poor US is only trying to preserve the world order if you are foolish enough to believe it ofc.

    • @miguk8242
      @miguk8242 Месяц назад +6

      I also doubt Lebanon would have made that treaty. It was only a year from civil war breaking out and the government/military already had way too many problems with Palestine, Israel, and Syria to get involved in someone else's war.

    • @tekinmoustafa8141
      @tekinmoustafa8141 Месяц назад +17

      @@FYMASMD its funny! roman empire said the same thing about Turks!

  • @trodoss
    @trodoss Месяц назад +122

    A classmate from Albania as a Greek descendant told me Cyprus was never Turkish in the history. I think our Greek neighbors make their mistake here. The history does not decide how we should live today. Like Putin in his interview with an American journalist says “there was never a Ukraine in the history”. And the American journalist was constantly questioning, “But Mr.Putin, what is the relation of these events with the today war?” Or Pashinyan of Armenia was saying 3,000 ago it was an Armanian land when he was interviewed in the Hard Talk on BBC and the moderator was questioning saying that But Mr Pashinyan it is today recognized by UN as Azerbaijani land. Or China ´s Xi does not accept Thailand again decorating his view by departing from the history.
    .
    There was a state of the Rebuplic of Cyprus and Greece, Türkiye, UK came together and established this find new state. Our Greek neighbors departed from their history school books and lived on another dream. They would just accept what they had already accepted in 1960 and we would live in a harmony today.
    .
    I am a Cypriot Turk and my mother ´s big family managed to run away from the massacre in the Bloody Noel in December 1963 the last minute in the middle of the night. She told me only those who had a run away car managed to escape. The other neighbors of them were machined-gunned as babies, kids, women, servants at home that time, but any body and every body. While running away, the last minute, one of my uncles pushed our new born cousin underneath a sofa thinking that we are gonna be slaughtered here at least this baby could survive. They could not choose the regular road to drive away, but through a farm-field they drove their car with all lights off. But that uncle remembered his baby. They stopped there and my mother left the car with another two cousins, one 3 and the other almost 2 years old, got a shelter in a one-room service building in that farm. My mother told me she found a bank in that room and sat leaning her back against the wall looking towards the direction they came from and with those two small babies under each arm. And the armed Greek militants noticed their presences in that building and they opened a machine gun fire on them. My mother told me she was feeling the bullets bouncing back from the wall behind her, with the sound and with the vibrations. And that night one of those two babies first time talked and said ´Korkuyorum!´in Turkish, means ´I am scared!´. By creeping over the fields, one uncle managed to get in the house back and he took the forgotten baby. It took all night for them to reach safer areas in the further north from where they lived in Lefkosia.
    My mother told me more about also how some other families forgot or hid their babies in the houses they left in that night and they talked to UN officers and the UN officers went in these houses following days and brought their babies back.
    .
    That woman together with her three kids, they were machine-gunned in the bathtub where they were hiding in their house, they were just in a walking distance away from the house of my mother’s family in that night.
    .
    For the next 11 years, from 1963 till 1974, every night was like a horror movie for the Turks in the island. Finally, peace invaded the island in 1974 from the North and there is no more massacres.
    .
    .
    I wrote all these things only for one reason: we said Yes to the Annan peace plan in 2004 and the South refused it.
    .
    Today, dominantly, the young generations in South who have never lived with Turks before, they say NO to live together with Turks in the island.
    Those in South who had experience to live together with Turks, they say YES to live together with Turks in the island.
    .
    The other way round in North;
    Today, dominantly, the young generations in North who have never lived with Greeks before, they say YES to live together with Greeks in the island.
    Those in North who had experience to live together with Greeks, they say NO to live together with Greeks in the island.
    .
    There is only one reason behind it: Two counter education mentalities and bitter living past memories. OK, we cannot ask people to forget their memories, but at least we can educate our young generations with a future looking peaceful materials.
    .
    EU asked both sides to remove adverse material against one another from your school books and EU would cover all of the school material.
    North said yes and they updated the school materials. South said “No, Our education is not for sale!”
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    Before we raise proper generations to live together, it is very difficult to come together and agree on a peace agreement.

    • @almlaasyatv
      @almlaasyatv Месяц назад

      kıbrısta ne zaman Türk olmamış Anadolu içinde söyleniyordu İstanbul'da metro kazısı diye arat bul. Roma'dan önce Türklerin yaşadığı ortaya çıkan kurgan mezar çıktı anadolu her yeri Roma dönemi öncesinde de Türkler vardı kıbrıstada var ve var olacak hayal görmeye devam edin siz.

    • @alymz1907
      @alymz1907 25 дней назад +1

      MÜKEMMEL MÜKEMMEL MÜKEMMEL!!!!!

    • @tanertavlan1769
      @tanertavlan1769 25 дней назад

      ur classmate told you that and you believe it!!!! wow

    • @apokos8871
      @apokos8871 18 дней назад

      why do you keep talking about "Greeks" in the South and not Cypriots? and what were these "Greek militants" in 1963? Greece didnt have armed forces in Cyprus at that moment. can you provide some official source to prove all this?

    • @SoghomonTehlirian1915
      @SoghomonTehlirian1915 16 дней назад

      Yeah North Cyprus isn’t Turkish.

  • @deusdat
    @deusdat Месяц назад +42

    What was Greece doing on the territory of a foreign sovereign country?

    • @kutaykorkmaz7483
      @kutaykorkmaz7483 Месяц назад +7

      It is only a foreign sovereign country because Turkey intervened, otherwise it would be enosis'ed into Greece and all the Turkish cypriots either sent to Turkey or dispersed within Greece and re educated.

  • @BenJamin-tx7ol
    @BenJamin-tx7ol Месяц назад +146

    Brave, courageous ? Or just stupid, or just Greek ?
    I was there in 74, the world was protesting about discrimination in South Africa and U S A, but nobody mentioned the Greek discrimination against the Turks in Cyprus.
    The Turks were downtrodden and persecuted by the Greeks, the Cypriot National Guard was wholly 'owned' by the Greek government, who wanted Enosis, they inspired and heavily armed the National guard and Eoka B, a terrorist organization, they prompted the failed coup, and attacked Turkish homes and land, is it any surprise that the Turkish Govt' launched the PEACE operation to safeguard its citizens ?
    Why do people feel sorry for the Greeks, it's not really their land anyway, and they started the debacle that caused their own grief.

    • @Leonidas-oz8qp
      @Leonidas-oz8qp Месяц назад +10

      It's been Greek land for 3000 years

    • @Sirius-Voyager
      @Sirius-Voyager Месяц назад +28

      @@Leonidas-oz8qp Ancient Cretens, Romans, Asyrians,Fenikes and Egyptians would laugh it they see this comment. Because They were own to Cyprus before Greek Colonial Sailors. Greeks invaded to Crete island which was a belong to Miken Civilization in ancient times.Because Miken Civilization get erased by reason Santorini’s Massive Volcanic Eruption’s Tsunamis and Volcanic Ashes.Crete island and Rhodes was a step stone for the Greeks invade to Cyprus.Greeks also invaded to Entire Aegean Sea and West Asia Minor after fall of Troya Civilizations.After Troya it’s allied Civilizations Lycians and Carians fall against to Greek Colonial powers at South West Anatolia.Hellenic invades completed by success for a long times.But Middle age era, Genoeses and Temple Knights Crusaders also invaded to Cyprus before the Ottomans.

    • @waleed8530
      @waleed8530 Месяц назад +27

      @@Leonidas-oz8qp Greece has been Turkish land for many centuries. so?

    • @selcukcilek555
      @selcukcilek555 Месяц назад +9

      @@Leonidas-oz8qp Yeah, repeat that for the next 3000 years.

    • @azmhyr
      @azmhyr Месяц назад +2

      There never were any Turks in Cyprus 😅

  • @terywilliam9730
    @terywilliam9730 Месяц назад +53

    Greece is always an arrogant but at the same time a weak country.

    • @apokos8871
      @apokos8871 Месяц назад +5

      yeah, like the time the defeated the Persian twice, or the Italians, or the Saracens a bunch of times, or the Avars, or the Celts, or the Bulgarians etc etc.

    • @dennisahmet7882
      @dennisahmet7882 Месяц назад

      Yeah and the turks ruled your arse for 400 years😂😂😂​@@apokos8871

    • @dennisahmet7882
      @dennisahmet7882 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@apokos8871😂😂😂😂

    • @selcukcilek555
      @selcukcilek555 Месяц назад +15

      @@apokos8871 That's the Megali Idea brain who thought they could the same with the Turks.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад +2

      @@selcukcilek555 Turkey has squandered more potential than any nation in modern history. The Lira reached another ALL TIME LOW against the Dollar and EURO today. LOL

  • @VangelisKontogeorgakos
    @VangelisKontogeorgakos Месяц назад +78

    Great video again! The narration of the surviving command, Athanasios Zafiriou is breathtaking, as he survived with numerous injuries and never full recovered. Years later, he met the crew of the anti-aircraft gun, and he told them the he hold no grudges against them. He died in September 2016.

    • @Cinarli1979
      @Cinarli1979 Месяц назад +10

      Zafiriou uçaksavar takımına nasıl kızabilir ki? Sonuçta onlar savunma için ateş ediyorlardı. Görünüşe göre savaşta bu gibi şeyler sandığımızdan daha çok oluyor...

    • @VangelisKontogeorgakos
      @VangelisKontogeorgakos Месяц назад +11

      @@Cinarli1979 You are right. but when someone goes through was this poor man went through, you cannot blame him for being angry. Was is hell.

    • @Cinarli1979
      @Cinarli1979 Месяц назад +3

      @@VangelisKontogeorgakos Haklı olabilirsiniz...

    • @azmhyr
      @azmhyr Месяц назад

      ​@@Cinarli1979
      Uçaksavar takımı linobambakilerden oluşuyorsa kızmamıştır kan kanı çekiyor

  • @serjacklucern4584
    @serjacklucern4584 Месяц назад +59

    fallschirmjäger were having some laughs from hell

    • @joeblow9657
      @joeblow9657 Месяц назад

      Afghanistan may be the grave yard of empires but Eastern Mediterranean islands are the graveyards of paratroopers.

    • @DritonSelmani-zc1fq
      @DritonSelmani-zc1fq Месяц назад +2

      First time some laughs from hell are heard

    • @mrj4990
      @mrj4990 Месяц назад +8

      Heaven, get it right

  • @dedeinan
    @dedeinan Месяц назад +5

    …when ever I try to empathize my greek neighbours I remember the faces of three brothers shot by greek soldiers in a bath tube while hugging their mothers.. they were with their pajamas.. They hurriedly got out of bed and hid in the bathroom in fear…

  • @svx4477
    @svx4477 Месяц назад +20

    These videos are amazing for learning about this conflict, Thank you for this series

    • @DIREWOLFx75
      @DIREWOLFx75 Месяц назад

      Yeah, having never studied this conflict, even this short video provided a lot of knowledge.

    • @obsession25
      @obsession25 Месяц назад

      better open some books to get your education on a much complicated issue, not an 8' oversimplified video on youtube

  • @guraytuncbiz9979
    @guraytuncbiz9979 Месяц назад +30

    Turkish soldiers went to the island and stopped the massacre and at the same time cleared the eoka terrorists organisation from the island of Cyprus, & stopped the bloodshed on the island, and at the same time ensured the destruction of the dreams of enosis in Greece, the military administration that took over the government in Greece with the coup, and brought the democratic administration back to the greeks.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape Месяц назад +28

    Reminds me of the Argentine air crews in 1982. Immensely brave and competent but terrible top leadership.

    • @panagiotissoropidis3739
      @panagiotissoropidis3739 Месяц назад +2

      Actually the Greek army head leaders and the Greek politicians were those who decided to let the Turkish troops occupy Cyprus. Otherwise it would be piece of cake for the Greek forces to destroy the invading Turkish forces with the superior submarines and the F4 planes as there was nothing equal at the Turkish navy and Turkish Air force. The orders were "do not shoot the Turks, they are just training". There is nothing more corrupted on this planet than the Greek political system.

    • @ino1974
      @ino1974 Месяц назад +17

      @@panagiotissoropidis3739 Were you going to stop about 500 fighter jets in the Turkish Air Force with 10 F-4s? Bullshit..The F-4 was a very good aircraft at that time, but it is wrong to expect a miracle from an aircraft that was shot down by Russian Migs and Air Defense Systems hundreds of times in the Vietnam war..The Greeks always use the American pressure as an excuse that they did not participate in the Cyprus War, but the reality is different.Even for Cyprus, they did not want to get into a war that they could not win.

    • @chewbacca3269
      @chewbacca3269 Месяц назад +8

      ​@panagiotissoropidis3739 That sounds like BS if we consider the fact that the EOKA who had done the military coup had the support of the Greek military Junta that took over year prior. The regime of the colonels, was very much anti turkish. Even to this day, in the Greek army officers (not even regular soldiers, literal officers) have this idea of wanting to back İstanbul in mind. The reason as to why Greece might not have intervened properly was because it was all done according to the treaties side by all 3 sides. So Greece probably didn't want to make things worse for them plus they were already out of NATO by that point.

    • @sneakysnek8416
      @sneakysnek8416 Месяц назад +2

      ​@chewbacca3269 Greece did intervene in Cyprus, you guys lost so hard that your very own government collapsed. Why do people like still cope about this to this day?

    • @sneakysnek8416
      @sneakysnek8416 Месяц назад +1

      @@chewbacca3269 i accidentally replied to the wrong person

  • @billpetrak
    @billpetrak Месяц назад +12

    A soldier that was killed when his plane crashed from friendly fire was from my father's village. There is a memorial for those that died in this operation in Maleme airbase, Crete, that I visited when I was younger. Junta was one of the worst parts of our history. Still very recent, just 50 years ago.

    • @kuvikina
      @kuvikina Месяц назад +6

      Thanks to Turks Greece met with democracy in 1974.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад +5

      @@kuvikina Turkey no longer has a democracy, funny how things change.

    • @christaras21
      @christaras21 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@kuvikina thanks to US you were allowed to invade Cyprus without equivalent resistance. "It's a Turkish exercise"

    • @ersendal2466
      @ersendal2466 16 дней назад

      @@pimpompoom93726 it only one national vote away but your enosis mind can not be cured..funny how literally where democracy found out misses the point..

  • @bggltk
    @bggltk Месяц назад +56

    Very nice and informative. I think your next will be on Turkish friendly fire on Kocatepe warship. Just guessing.
    As a Turk, I'd never understand few things over Cyprus. Türkiye was a guarantor state over Cyprus since 1960 and had limited troops there. During 60s and early 70s Greek Cypriots had atrocities against Turkish minority though they seem like they don't remember those days anymore.
    In a realistic point of view, I don't understand this: Türkiye warned Greece and Greek Cypriots many times diplomatically and even militarily in 60s. There were air raids agains Greek positions to hold them back. And the military here was aware of their lack of capacity to make an amphibious landing overseas. Therefore prior to 5-6 years prior to 1974, Turkish Armed Forces reorganized its structure, improved troops to commando level, created paratroopers, marines, chopper troops and even pırchased larger fuselage transport planes as c-160 and c-130. Produced landing vessels indiginously.
    So how come Greeks did not have the intelligence that Turks were very serious about it? With which unrralistic minds that they have decided to unite the island to Greece despite all the impotence of Greek army. They didn't have a bit of air superiority over the island and Turks were even composing songs to signal their ambition to intervene the situation militarily.
    From a realistic point of view, without think in a nationalistic way even for a second, I'd never ınderstand the Greek mind of things to provoke that much, even they were bombed a few times beforehand. I think it was too öuch of a selftrust or denying the power of their enemy?
    I wish everyone peaceful days.

    • @bggltk
      @bggltk Месяц назад +9

      sorry for typos. hard to write with an iphone

    • @hasnicktir5310
      @hasnicktir5310 Месяц назад +6

      @@bggltktakma kafana kral ana dilin gibi yazmışsın

    • @totallyuselessvideoz
      @totallyuselessvideoz Месяц назад +4

      You missed the part that Turkey and not Türkiye (as your gay dictator wants to call it) was not and is not a western democracy, so as long the big powers allow it, it can do as it pleases. Meaning they can gather as much army and ammunitions on its shore just 80 Km from Cyprus. Greece is at least 400 Km. Now there is no need to discuss the stupidity of the Greek junta governments from 67 to 74. Unfortunately it's self-explanatory.

    • @TheKurtkapan34
      @TheKurtkapan34 Месяц назад +26

      @@totallyuselessvideoz aside from name calling, you are proving his point. Greek junta gov had to know all this was a fool's errand from the beginning and Turkey would never allow it.

    • @Hypernefelos
      @Hypernefelos Месяц назад +12

      Greece had a military junta made up mostly of tank officers, who made purges in the (hostile to them) Navy and Air Force to keep them in line. In 1973 the more moderate (comparatively) wing of the junta was overthrown by the more extremist wing. Accurate information did not disseminate freely in such a paranoid environment.

  • @michaelogden5958
    @michaelogden5958 Месяц назад +65

    1:55 Yikes! Not a lot of clearance for those fuel tanks!

  • @JimmyCricket93
    @JimmyCricket93 Месяц назад +89

    Yet another great video from the Drachinifel of the skies

    • @GM-xk1nw
      @GM-xk1nw Месяц назад +17

      We need him to make 2 hour videos answering viewers questions.

    • @JimmyCricket93
      @JimmyCricket93 Месяц назад +3

      @@GM-xk1nw whats its name gonna be? "Patrons on the Apron"

    • @lorddashdonalddappington2653
      @lorddashdonalddappington2653 Месяц назад +2

      I really think this guy deserves better than constant comparisons to Drachinifel

    • @beorntwit711
      @beorntwit711 Месяц назад +2

      @@lorddashdonalddappington2653 sure, but ... that's pretty high praise.

    • @lorddashdonalddappington2653
      @lorddashdonalddappington2653 Месяц назад +1

      @@beorntwit711 I get that people mean it as a compliment, but it's kind of sad that this guy is seen as the shadow of another guy.
      In my opinion, NAPFATG is significantly better viewing than Drachinifel, too. Drach is very prone to waffling and meandering around the point; these videos are much more focused and well-written. Imho, the only area Drachinifel has an advantage in is his much better channel name.

  • @jdogos
    @jdogos Месяц назад +20

    When i was drafted in Greek signal corps basic training camp in Chaidari, a Noratlas cabin was next to signal corps school. I asked why is that here and they told me to remind us the horrible mistake in Cyprus...

  • @robertricketts5467
    @robertricketts5467 Месяц назад +9

    The first that I'd ever heard about this was from some middle-aged Greek blokes Id met in Longbeach about 25 years ago but they were very short on details.Your excellent video has filled that gnawing gap of knowledge regarding this operation.Again,many thanks.

    • @minertheo
      @minertheo Месяц назад +1

      Until a few years ago, this mission was not even officially acknowledged.

  • @guraytuncbiz9979
    @guraytuncbiz9979 Месяц назад +23

    Wars do not happen like in your dreams, they do not happen at all like in computer games. Politicians think in advance about what the consequences will be like when making war decisions. You have to have a big nat when making these decisions. The Turkish soldier went there to stop the massacre of the Turkish people by eoka, who dreamed of enosis of the greeks, and took back the lands of the Turkish society. and prevented the genocide committed against the Turks on the island. Exactly what was happening in Gaza, the same plan was being carried out against the Turkish Cypriots on the island of Cyprus.

    • @azmhyr
      @azmhyr Месяц назад

      There were no Turks on the Island. We were had by the Brits.

    • @guraytuncbiz9979
      @guraytuncbiz9979 Месяц назад +1

      @@azmhyr 🤣🤣btr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top%C3%A7uk%C3%B6y,_K%C4%B1br%C4%B1s Topçuköy, Kıbrıs// Köyün ilk sakinleri birkaç Rum aileydi. Daha sonra, 1571 yılında köye Kıbrıs'ın fethi sırasında Mağusa'da savaşmış olan topçular yerleşti. Rum aileler de 1600'lü yıllarda köyü terk etti.[2] /I was born ther.

    • @guraytuncbiz9979
      @guraytuncbiz9979 Месяц назад +1

      @@azmhyr Same old bollocks,

    • @guraytuncbiz9979
      @guraytuncbiz9979 Месяц назад +1

      @@azmhyr Topçuköy, Cyprus // The first inhabitants of the village were a few Greek families. Later, in 1571, the artillerymen who fought in Famagusta during the conquest of Cyprus settled in the village. Greek families also left the village in the 1600s.[2] /I was born ther.

    • @azmhyr
      @azmhyr Месяц назад

      @@guraytuncbiz9979
      Real name of the village is "Agios Andronikos" and it's no true that the inhabitants were descendants of cannoneers. They were linobambaki cryptos like everyone else. They made up elaborate stories as justification. The village is now prob full with settlers anyways, so.

  • @yanniskouretas8688
    @yanniskouretas8688 Месяц назад +13

    To this day none of the crews or the troops that participated in operation "Νίκη" has awarded any kind of acknowledgement or merit by the Greek state . As far as any Greek government since 1974 onward is concerned this operation never happened as there was no official declaration of war , therefor no state of war between Greece and Turkey . The leadership of the hellenic air force at the time , even had the audacity to charge the pilots of the scrapped air-frames for the losses .....

  • @odenat3701
    @odenat3701 Месяц назад +14

    Just yesterday a Greek minister told the reporters that their army will be at Ankara in 24 hours! It seems Greeks never learn.

    • @Hypernefelos
      @Hypernefelos Месяц назад +9

      That health minister is a joke, but he was saying that with F-35s Greece can strike at Ankara 'one night', responding to Turkish statements of similar attacks on Greece or Cyprus 'one night'.

    • @minertheo
      @minertheo Месяц назад +7

      Guessing you are a Turk, I'd say we both have our share of politicians of his kind.

    • @KaanBeskardes
      @KaanBeskardes Месяц назад +3

      @@minertheo yeah Erdogan said the same thing lmao

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад +1

      Erdogan has been running his mouth like that for YEARS. Yeah, a Greek Health Minister said something stupid-compare that to a national leader who says stupid things every day!

    • @AyhanSozer-qo9gq
      @AyhanSozer-qo9gq Месяц назад

      Gelebilir ama dönebilir mi ? Tabiki hayır

  • @ReviveHF
    @ReviveHF Месяц назад +7

    Another disastrous airborne assault took place in 1963 Malaysia-Indonesia Confrontation, where the Indonesia attempt to launch a surprise airborne assault on Peninsular Malaya. The Airborne Assault consists of three C-130 Hercules carrying PGT(Rapid Response Troops/Pasukan Gerakan Tsepat) Paratroopers . Two of the C-130 managed to reach their objective with their onboard PGT paratroopers, one of them suspectedly crashed into the sea while evading Gloster Javelin interception. The Airborne assault was no doubt a disaster mainly due to foul weather and interception attempt by the Gloster Javelin.
    The Gloster Javelin used in the interception of Indonesian Airborne Assault Attempt was an underrated jet, because it was overshadowed by English Electric Lightning. The Gloster Javelin later received several upgrades during production to its engines, radar and weapons, including support for the De Havilland Firestreak air-to-air missile.

  • @the_realist
    @the_realist Месяц назад +22

    If the Greeks had not committed genocide against the Turkish civilians in Cyprus, these would not have happened.

    • @asoulno.136
      @asoulno.136 Месяц назад +2

      @@the_realist Check out the facts. The UN peacekeeping force record for example. The Greeks did not attack the Turkish Cypriots on the island during the coop days i.e. from the 15 July 1974 till the 19 July 1974. After the Turkish Army invaded on the 20th and started killing Greek Cypriot civilians, only then, some EOKA B thugs (paid off for years with American Dollars in order to try and remove Makarios) did carry out atrocities but not the legal forces of the Republic of Cyprus.

    • @Aiden_321
      @Aiden_321 Месяц назад +7

      @@asoulno.136 Just as your source mentioned, the greeks stopped killing turks during the 4 day coup because they had bigger problems. Don’t you think it’s quite pathetic and childish to view events from only the one angle that suits your argument? Ignoring the massacres that occurred before the coup is the biggest evidence that you are not a human being.

    • @asoulno.136
      @asoulno.136 Месяц назад

      @@Aiden_321 We were talking about that specific period of time which Turkey used as the long awaited excuse they needed to invade illegally. If we don’t want to be childish, then we can go a lot further back to Nihat Erim’s well known report and plans for Turkey to reconquer Cyprus. The various massacres of Greeks by the Turks sometimes with the help of the British (who used “divide and rule” tactics well) like the Kontemenos Villagers before independence, the so called “troubles” at Christmas of 1963, the Denktash admission later on, that it was they who placed bombs in their own buildings to provoke the troubles, the incident with the boat Deniz carrying guns and ammunition from Turkey to Cyprus after the London agreements just before becoming officially independent. We are not talking about thugs and useful idiots from both sides, but covert Turkish State policy. The bottom line is that a solution needs to be found that will primarily respect the genuine indigenous population of the island FIRST and not the interests of everybody else FIRST . Cypriots from both sides live an abnormal existence without feeling secure, because of this, (even if they don’t understand it). I can understand that there is mistrust for certain groups within each community because of what happened in the past. The past should not however be allowed to ruin the future for ever. There are plenty of examples of “enemies” who were able to reconcile and live peacefully together. Europe could serve as an example of peaceful coexistence.

    • @Aiden_321
      @Aiden_321 Месяц назад +7

      @@asoulno.136
      Referring to the massacres as just 'troubles' and only giving credit to the Greek side in a whole paragraph clearly shows how objective you are(!) The Republic of Turkey, as a guarantor, did what was necessary and brought 50 years of peace, preventing the wet dreams of the Greeks who are puppets of Western imperialism. The mistake of the Turks is settling people from Turkey there, but unlike you, I am decent enough to write about the mistakes of both sides.

    • @Aiden_321
      @Aiden_321 Месяц назад +1

      @@asoulno.136 You are not in a position to come here and act civilized while giving advice.

  • @joeblow9657
    @joeblow9657 Месяц назад +10

    Remember, everyone this is why you practice airborne operations before doing them.

    • @minertheo
      @minertheo Месяц назад +2

      Greek military plans to reinforce Cyprus did not include such a mission, rather a full-scale amphibious operation, including heavy formations. Niki was a desperate attempt to provide a token assistance amidst the chaos those junta buffoons had created.

    • @Alexandros11
      @Alexandros11 Месяц назад

      I don't really get what the purpose of this comment is. Aside from some obvious oversights, like the AA crews not being adequately informed, the transports succeeded in getting a lot of troops on the ground, whilst avoiding detection by the enemy. Even with the mistakes, the operation was still quite succesful, in getting a lot of boots on the ground.
      The effectiveness of the troops afterwards is a separate matter altogether.

    • @enderiskender2977
      @enderiskender2977 Месяц назад

      ​@@Alexandros11 Well not realy. Operation was unsuccessful and didn't bring as many troops as it was supposed to frendly airport. Meanwhile Turkish airborne operations were successful and did bring enough troops to hostile area created a pocket and kept it until reinforcements arrive.

  • @RAFMagpie
    @RAFMagpie Месяц назад +12

    The Atlas; what would happen if mother in law's used wings, instead of broomsticks.

    • @clasdauskas
      @clasdauskas Месяц назад

      You must know some good looking mother in laws

  • @Archie2c
    @Archie2c Месяц назад +8

    The Thunder Streaks I believe we're still armed with 12.7mm not 20 I'm willing to be wrong.

  • @EffequalsMA
    @EffequalsMA Месяц назад +3

    Thanks for this, I did not know anything about this before your series.

  • @edl617
    @edl617 Месяц назад +8

    Two American Aircraft Carriers a amphibious squadron over 2 dozen destroyers and cruisers were off shore

    • @teleman07
      @teleman07 Месяц назад +7

      Yes, of course they were off shore. Did you expect them to be on shore? 🤣

    • @tekinmoustafa8141
      @tekinmoustafa8141 Месяц назад +1

      he he! there was the russian fleet present too!

  • @aegeanphantom
    @aegeanphantom Месяц назад +16

    Hellenic Armed Forces personnel in 1974, had an exemplary performance in the field when their orders allowed them to do so, or when the tactical situation arised. Commander Handrinos, Lieutenants Dinopoulos and Skampardonis, the Noratlas and C-47 crews, the 2 type 209 submarine crews and all the Commando and ELDYK units in Cyprus did their duty, bravely and with heroism, sometimes with lacking preparation and others with inferior equipment. The problem was with the people in higher echelons giving the orders...

    • @minertheo
      @minertheo Месяц назад +1

      It's true, main reason for the blunder is at the strategic level, not the tactical

    • @endomoto1
      @endomoto1 Месяц назад

      ​@@minertheo😂

    • @omerk8403
      @omerk8403 Месяц назад

      Cyprus historically was a big mix of early Greeks, Romans as well as middle age French Levantines and Ottoman Turks, lastly British. A fairly diverse spectrum we are speaking.

    • @selcukcilek555
      @selcukcilek555 Месяц назад

      Oh, it was?

    • @AyhanSozer-qo9gq
      @AyhanSozer-qo9gq Месяц назад

      Kaçarken bunları düsünmuyorlardı

  • @IFLYTOO
    @IFLYTOO Месяц назад +10

    I need to write this comment.
    The Olympic plan was of 4 B707s, not 727s as you say and not 720s as you show in the pic,...on the night of the 20th.
    The plan was to land in Nicosia deploy the commandos with engines running, from cabin doors with no steps and sliding from wings with flaps down...
    One was damaged being parked at Souda... slided and damaged main gear, broke bogie equalizer rod...
    Time was important for darkness coverage, a 720 was prepared in Athens with spares and mechanics, this failed also being damaged after start up. So the mission was aborted due time, snd the Noratlas option emerged...
    -------
    Now the F-84s in Kasteli..
    A colleague was a pilot on them, and slept and ate in the cockpit waiting for the order to go , that never came....
    They had fuel for just one pass over Nicosia,bomb, make a 180° and go home.
    If they engaged in dog fights, they had 4 options , namely:
    1. Beirut
    2. Aleppo
    3. Tel Aviv
    4. Ditching off Cyprus, in worst case scenario!
    That's what i know from first hand....
    Ex Olympic cockpit crew 😉

  • @projearf6253
    @projearf6253 Месяц назад +2

    Young people always suffer the consequences of politicians mistakes.

  • @user-vc2qk1gd2f
    @user-vc2qk1gd2f Месяц назад +15

    The greek commandos even after they took casualties from friendly fire incident actually took part in the battle of the airport of nicosia

  • @lpelectronics3747
    @lpelectronics3747 Месяц назад +11

    This operation under the circumstances it took place it’s considered susses not failure. The losses was 31 men but on the other hand managed to put valuable troops (more than 300 soldiers) in place around Nicosia and to keep International Airport of Nicosia and the city itself as well. In a war is acceptable to have casualties in order to achieve something valuable. And unfortunately this happening from friendly fire some times.-

  • @sailordude2094
    @sailordude2094 Месяц назад +5

    I was barely 10 when this happened, but the US news was focused on Nixon and Watergate anyway, so I'm pretty sure they never mentioned it! Thanks for the in depth history! (August 9, 1974 - Nixon resigns the presidency. Gerald Ford becomes the 38th president of the United States.)

  • @user-wx3jp5iq5i
    @user-wx3jp5iq5i Месяц назад +20

    Hello, I am writing from Greece in translation from Greek to English from a translation application, so sorry for the mistakes. my cousin served on junta in the air force. He flew in DACOTS DC-9s. He went to the Korean War and told us that it was a military government - JUDAS didn't know how many soldiers each military airport needed, that in the Venice campaign in 1974, DC-9s were used to transport troops toislands and one had entered the take-off line, another was knocking on the metal sheets from the inside and yelling at the crew to open the door to get off. wrong unit rhodo island ennohe was supposed to go to the island of Lemnos as soon as he landed in command of a military squadron with his fighter from exercises in the midst of it there was a coup d'etat Ioannidis seized the commander they put him on the wall with his hands up and pointed at him with weapons to arrest him sad sorrow the commander in front of them in in the eyes of the lowest ranking personnel we slept with the doors open since we were poor in terms of security we had because we had nothing to steal from us Cyprus was lost because the Huns did not send the special forces many marines to Cyprus but in the provinces it was published by theI freely cross-referenced it and I found in official files signs and correspondence, etc. x. , from the military authorities it means that in your city there are communist demonstrations and the reassuring response of the local police is not about communist demonstrations but spontaneous peopleprotests about the position of the Americans and NATO in the Turkish invasion of Attila in Cyprus and the Huns were afraid of falling from power and sent the lokatzis who were immediately ready to leave for Cyprus, they slept for days on their parachutes under the wingsof the transport aircraft and today they are dying with the complaint described with tears in their eyes that they never wanted the signal to leave for Cyprus to fight in Cyprus but they were sent to provincial towns to suppress communist demonstrations with the general conscription everyone was draftedmen, we stayed behind, women, children, old people, as many as had fothrnoths, made bread, as many as had burns, changed food, they hid the flour, the food to have for their familieswhile they took all the men to support the families, they did not take care of distribution of rations, the pattakos collected cigarette butts, opened outdoor toilets, the caramanlis slept in a different place every night, even in boats, the soldiers refused to resign and demanded half of each otherMinistries, crazy houses, scenes, conscripts, conscripts, conscription, those who would go to war wore sandals, slippers, anti-arbitles on these planes, almost to get in. My father was a reserve, green bear special forces, mountain commandos, and he came from Germany wherehe worked as a worker in metal industries to fight in Cyprus but the Italians detained him for 15 days in the port of Prindez and did not let him get on the ship to Greece, it seemed from afar that he was a great warrior and when they let him leave Italy and came to Greece thgeneral conscription was over, the men went home and the war was over and after a few days the ovens were producing bread, the food shops were open, at that time there were many turkish speaking villages in western cyprus (continues)

    • @BallisticCoefficient
      @BallisticCoefficient Месяц назад +1

      That is very interesting. Who are the "Huns"? Is there another description? I assume the Greek Parliament?

    • @darladallddoria143
      @darladallddoria143 Месяц назад +2

      ​,, huns, they are turks, germans, english etc

    • @ianstobie
      @ianstobie Месяц назад +1

      ​@@BallisticCoefficient I assume "the Huns" are the mainland Greek government, which had been under a military regime since the Coup of the Colonels in April 1967. One of the complexities of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 was that the Greeks were very divided on left-right lines.

    • @thewayofbiutze3899
      @thewayofbiutze3899 Месяц назад

      @@BallisticCoefficient nice one😂

  • @matstick199
    @matstick199 Месяц назад +2

    At 2:24 you mention the f84f having 20mm cannons, where could I read more about this cannon armed configuration? I was under the impression that they retained the 6x browning .50 BMG guns

  • @canuckled
    @canuckled Месяц назад +2

    The Canadian Airborne Regiment was part of the UN mission caught up in all of these - hopefully taking notes on how not to operate

  • @Apollo_Tsakiris
    @Apollo_Tsakiris Месяц назад

    This channel is a gem. Thank you for all the great content!

  • @dimitarvan9378
    @dimitarvan9378 29 дней назад

    The sacrifices by Greek Forces were not done in vain. The managed to keep the Nicosia airport, and were forced to give it to UN . Otherwise the airport would be in Turkish hands until today!

  • @fuchs10
    @fuchs10 Месяц назад +4

    And a voice heard from Turkish cockpit. "Ama öndekine ÇAKABİLİRİM!"

  • @eyerollthereforeiam1709
    @eyerollthereforeiam1709 Месяц назад +10

    I wonder what the Soviets thought.. Watching two NATO 'allies' going at it!

    • @joshuabessire9169
      @joshuabessire9169 Месяц назад +10

      Wondering if NATO was gonna roll into Turkey like Warsaw Pact rolled into Hungary and Czechoslovakia.

    • @a.sinantuzun353
      @a.sinantuzun353 Месяц назад +22

      well , from one point of view they were watching two NATO allies going at it. But also they were upset loosing an ally like Makarios and a possible base in Cyprus in the future.

    • @a.sinantuzun353
      @a.sinantuzun353 Месяц назад

      @@joshuabessire9169 why would they? Turkey didn't attack to a NATO ally and actually what Turkey done was totally legal! According to the 1960 agreement led to the foundation of Cyprus Republic there were three guarantor countries, Turkey, Britain and Greece. Each and any of those countries have right to intervene if there is an internal or external threat to Cyprus Republic. So 15th of July coup made by EOKA terrorists with Greek military junta's support gives Turkey to land on island. On 15th Turkey warned about the situation. Then informed both NATO and USA and even asked to Britain to do the operation together.
      Also Turkey is not Czech or Hungary. Just 50 years ago of Cyprus when Turkey was on weakest point still managed to beat and throw out the invadors from its homeland. So 1974 with a much more stronger Turkey, with the second biggest army of NATO that would be suicidal trying to invade Turkey. It would be impossible without any nuclear weapons and noone would be that crazy pay the cost of even just trying to invade

    • @arjenh7214
      @arjenh7214 Месяц назад +2

      Popcorn time!

    • @-Shadow__Rider-
      @-Shadow__Rider- Месяц назад +10

      @@joshuabessire9169why would NATO attempt such a thing lmao

  • @YusufIsse-ok7cz
    @YusufIsse-ok7cz Месяц назад +1

    Don't change topics, Greece or turkey, you know what is out there

  • @prowlus
    @prowlus Месяц назад +5

    Thought f-84s had machine guns not auto cannon

    • @jimdavis8391
      @jimdavis8391 Месяц назад +2

      The straight wing Thunderjet had six 50 cals I think, the Thunderflash, the swept F84, which was virtually a whole new aircraft, would have cannons or may have only had AA missiles.

    • @stevewhisperer6609
      @stevewhisperer6609 Месяц назад

      ​@jimdavis8391 Going from memory, ( and backed up by wiki ) the -84s only ever had .50 cals for gun armament in the production models.

  • @pimpompoom93726
    @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад +3

    A number of inaccuracies, typical British review of the military conflict on Cyprus in 1974/75. In fact, this operation succeeded in large measure-providing vital men and material which allowed Nicosia airport to hold back the Turkish tide. The Turkish Army suffered significant casualties to the reinforcements delivered that night, I am acquainted with one Greek commando from that raid who later took out several Turkish tanks with a bazooka. No question it was a high risk operation, but neither the F-102's or F-100's of the Turkish Air Force had much night intercept capability and-as noted-the island was not under the detection of Turkish ground based radar at this time. The one tragedy-the shooting down of one aircraft by a Cypriot National Guard AA unit was unfortunate, but not completely surprising with the troops on the ground on edge and information flow from top command chaotic at best. The United States suffered similar blue on blue fire accidents when Airborne Troops attempted to land on Sicily in WW2. The delays in getting more planes airborne was attributable to the Noratlas being an obsolete design at the time and engines in particular suffering from mechanical difficulties. The main point, that the 'Colonels' in Greece were unprepared for a Turkish invasion, is true. These leaders were in over their heads trying to run foreign policy without the training and contacts to do it. Theirs was the real and only failure of this operation.

  • @algi1948
    @algi1948 Месяц назад +1

    The final result of this war: the fall of the ( mainland) Greek colonels' dictatorship, and the reinstalling of democracy in Greece. It is funny that the Greeks should thank the Turkish government for the invasion of Cyprus.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад

      Hey, Greece has built a democracy since then and Turkey has built a dictatorship. Two ships going in opposite directions, passing in the night.

  • @ozcandurmusoglu
    @ozcandurmusoglu Месяц назад +4

    Cyprus was Ottoman at the beginning. Then, due to economic problems sultan Abdulhamid gave uk to permit using island against payment, then, uk seized captured the island knowing the weak status of sultan. After that, greek originated people started to come to island. Now, today they claim the island belonged to them, killing Turkish locals. Turkey came and stopped blood. This is the fact of last 150 yrs.

    • @ilkeribrahim6541
      @ilkeribrahim6541 Месяц назад

      Not exactly. It was given because of the Russian empire and Balkan rebels from different countries won againts Ottomans in that time ,and to ensure diplomatic pressure to Russian empire it was signed deal with the British empire and they were able to establish military bases there. But of course in WW1 when Ottomans sided with the Central powers British saw this as opportunity to annex the island completely.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад

      There were Greeks on Cyprus for thousands of years before the first Ottoman showed up.

  • @steventhorson4487
    @steventhorson4487 27 дней назад

    Embarrassing,tragic, and sad!!

  • @dtrain1634
    @dtrain1634 Месяц назад +4

    This is like two armies attempting to perform modern warfare with essentially Korean War technology 😮
    Thank you so much for covering what is a very poorly known about conflict 😮

  • @MLKL2011
    @MLKL2011 Месяц назад +2

    greek idiotizm blended with patriotizm and selfishness.

  • @brianrmc1963
    @brianrmc1963 Месяц назад +1

    This is fascinating. Thank you.

  • @a.sinantuzun353
    @a.sinantuzun353 Месяц назад +25

    Another perfect example of Greek Nationalist daydreaming. They are brave people but daydreamers of an imaginary Great Helenic Empire. Rather than daydreaming if they would be realistic and friendly with teir neighbours both Turkey and Greece would be much more prosperous countries today.

    • @BlaBla-pf8mf
      @BlaBla-pf8mf Месяц назад

      Far more turks are extreme nationalists than greeks.

    • @antgiat
      @antgiat Месяц назад +12

      Who has threatened with a casus belli and who is talking about mavi vatan?

    • @excelgazialimuhiddinhacibekir
      @excelgazialimuhiddinhacibekir Месяц назад +6

      Do not dream of extenting the range of your territorial waters from 6 to 12 nautical miles, and do not ever dare to close the ENTIRE Aegean Sea to Turkish maritime activities. Then you do not have to reckon with the consequences of CASUS BELLI and can live happily ever after. Orherwise you lose those 6 miles of territorial waters as well.

    • @TheKurtkapan34
      @TheKurtkapan34 Месяц назад

      @@antgiat The proposed Seville territorial waters map is another occurrence of the mentioned daydream mentality. No single country worth its sovereignty would accept it.

    • @Tsagia
      @Tsagia Месяц назад +3

      Realistic and friendly,as in give up sovereignty and become a Turkish vassal State? Because your leaders basically ask for half the Aegean.

  • @gerryjames9720
    @gerryjames9720 Месяц назад

    This so reminds me of the disaster in the desert during the Iran crisis. It is amazing how great nations can be so oblivious to the necessities of military ops. The fog of war can ruin even the best plans, but dithering and incomplete planning (and pride) are the doom of many good men.

  • @dimitrisvg7624
    @dimitrisvg7624 Месяц назад +3

    Great video but the mission though bloody wasn't a failure. The commandos managed to help defend the airport.

  • @kuvikina
    @kuvikina Месяц назад +5

    Usual outcome since 1500s when Pseuod-Hellens face with the Turks without the support of MiddleWestern states.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад

      Turkish economy and currency in 2024-usual outcome when Pseudo-Ottomans try and dance with the big boys in international finance!

  • @tanertavlan1769
    @tanertavlan1769 25 дней назад

    Greece population shrinks year by year . 19 million to 9 million today. another 50 yrs no Greece... Same thing Bulgaria. 6 million left.. Africans are take over...

  • @WALTERBROADDUS
    @WALTERBROADDUS Месяц назад +3

    They needed some basic ground controllers.

  • @arandomfawn5289
    @arandomfawn5289 Месяц назад +1

    2:24 “full load of 20mm ammunition” 20mm cannons on f84s? What ? What variant is that?

  • @hugo882
    @hugo882 Месяц назад

    The Greeks had no chance at all, the Turkish invasion surprised everyone and here you only see Turkish military machines, World War 1 Turkey won. In 1974 Turkey showed the Greeks again what it was all about

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Месяц назад

    Watching this video reminds me of a quote from a movie. I do not remember what the movie was, but I think the actor speaking it was Robert Duvall. He referred to the *_"6-P Principle,"_* which was:
    *_"Proper Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance."_*

  • @WilliamWallace-l2b
    @WilliamWallace-l2b Месяц назад +1

    Good video. Lived in Greece at that time but never knew about this.

    • @user-sd8xx1yh8x
      @user-sd8xx1yh8x Месяц назад

      Where are you from

    • @selcukcilek555
      @selcukcilek555 Месяц назад

      Because Greece was ruled by the Military Junta then. Which collapsed after their failure in Cyprus. Therefore "Democracy" in Greece was "caused" by the Turks. Though Greeks will never admit that one.

  • @chriscap147
    @chriscap147 20 дней назад

    So Greece never officially entered the war.
    They left the Cypriots to their fate.

    • @odysseasntalias5950
      @odysseasntalias5950 6 дней назад

      You are being unfair. The greeks would gladly die for Cyprus and they did. You should know that when the news of invasion came a ship full of soldiers returning to greece after the completion of their tour in Cyprus, was ordered to return.Operation NIKI is also an example of their determination to help since it was a suicide mission. Nevertheless the greeks fought fearlessly in Cyprus and ELDYK (Hellenic taskforce in Cyprus) and the returning soldiers actually saved Nicosia after valiant defence around ELDYK camp and the airport. Unfortunately Greece was hundreds of kilometres away, while turkey only 50 km .. The greek had only a few very recently acquired F4 phantoms in which they were only trained literary for weeks, which theoretically could stay over the island for five minutes (!) and if the greek fleet approached it would for sure be destroyed by hundreds of Turkish airplanes available, in times ships had no surface to air anti-aircraft missiles. Think about it before insulting the memory of all the greeks who died for Cyprus....

  • @bulqizafotovideo8602
    @bulqizafotovideo8602 Месяц назад +2

    It belong to Turkey stop faking the history the Greeks just went there to make trouble

  • @robertricketts5467
    @robertricketts5467 Месяц назад

    Great video.Many thanks.

  • @Laconic-Spartan
    @Laconic-Spartan Месяц назад +3

    No Greek has hard feelings for our fellow Greeks in Cyprus. Friendly fire happens often. It was also kind of us mainlanders Greeks which kept the operation extremely hidden. The Greco-Cypriots who brought it down is still alive. We made a documentary and while he's old by now, he was crying like a little baby. It made us all our eyes to become red. Even our Tank Battalion never received proper orders to engage. We'd have never lost half the island to the illegal invaders. There are the memoirs of a special forces' unit from the mainland. They alone managed to inflict enormous damage. We can only imagine had we received proper orders. There's also one much greater problem. The Turks on the island were only 17% officially, Turkish Government admits it, too. They sneakily, forcefully relocated more Turks in order to receive 50-50 Cyprus resources. Obviously, it's never going to happen. We'll be putting to a bank account the 17% they deserve when the Gas found will start bringing profits. Greece, Cyprus and now Israel signed a pact. Further, 99% there's Gas in Greek territorial waters as well. We already created the first infrastructure which helps the entire Europe alleviate the problem the war in Ukraine caused. We currently build the second. We'll be providing to many fellow Europeans. Greece is the most stable country in South-Easternmost Europe. We keep safe the Balkans to do whatever they decide without the Turks gaining influence in Europe, again. Only a couple of Balkan nations, Muslims, the usual suspects are always Turkish lovers who are willing to betray anything.

    • @the_realist
      @the_realist Месяц назад +2

      You armed the Greek gangs. You reduced the Turkish population on the island by attacking and killing the Turkish civilians. The civilians had to flee the island to save their lives.
      You planned to seize the entire island by committing genocide, but you failed. The Turkish military saved the Turkish civilians on the island from the genocide you committed. It is known in historical records that the real Turkish population is not 17% as you said. You cannot justify yourself by taking a part of the truth. The initial population balance on the island was restored and of course resources are shared 50% / 50% on an island consisting of two main minorities. You were greedy and did not get 100%. The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus will continue its existence. If you have a dream, we have one too. You trust America too much. America will disappear the moment its own interests end.

    • @billakosgr4746
      @billakosgr4746 Месяц назад

      Κοίτα ποιος μιλάει για γενοκτονία. 😂😂😂😂😂 The only history turkey has ia a criminal record 😊​@@the_realist

    • @emrecukuryurt5943
      @emrecukuryurt5943 Месяц назад

      Poor hellas​@@billakosgr4746

  • @minertheo
    @minertheo Месяц назад

    It's the first time I hear about F-102 coverage. Most sources I know of mention Phantoms being deployed to Kastelli, but at an independent capacity to provide CAS over Cyprus, not related to Niki.

  • @katalina1953
    @katalina1953 Месяц назад +2

    Oper «NIKI» was SUCCESSFUL in that it took to NIC Greek commandos who bravely defended the airport against the invading Turks. Nobody knows what the repercussions would have been if the a/p had fallen to the Turkish troops.
    Twelve of the 15 a/c returned to Greece.

    • @user-sd8xx1yh8x
      @user-sd8xx1yh8x Месяц назад

      invading turks? It is a really peace operation to stop civilian murders of Rums

    • @selcukcilek555
      @selcukcilek555 Месяц назад +1

      Oh that's how we shold look at it after 50!! years of Northern Cyprus in Turkish hands?

    • @the_realist
      @the_realist Месяц назад +1

      Not "invading Turks". You can say "The Turks stopped the genocide that the Greeks started against Turkish civilians."

    • @tuna_tt21
      @tuna_tt21 Месяц назад

      You should edit it as “Saver Turks”

  • @alihanaydogdu6158
    @alihanaydogdu6158 Месяц назад +3

    🇹🇷💪🏻

  • @Getoffmycloud53
    @Getoffmycloud53 Месяц назад +1

    Nice piece, but why use a thumbnail featuring a French Bloch 210 - of which more info can be found under “CRASH OF A BLOCH MB.210 IN TOURS: 5 KILLED” for those that are curious? EDIT - 5:45 that’s the thumbnail, mistaken identity, this is not the Noratlas in question.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 26 дней назад

    America should have helped the Greeks push the Turks out of Europe during WW I & II, thus we should not have this mess,

    • @imperatorromanorum3150
      @imperatorromanorum3150 25 дней назад

      Cut down on HOI4 kid lmao. Turks are valiant people. Whole Allies ganged up on them but still they remain.

  • @BirolMert-pd3tt
    @BirolMert-pd3tt Месяц назад +1

    Türkiye 🇹🇷 ❤

  • @sabahattintoluk4009
    @sabahattintoluk4009 Месяц назад +1

    Unprepared is a lie

  • @casematecardinal
    @casematecardinal Месяц назад +4

    Thats about the definition of daring

  • @wonkagaming8750
    @wonkagaming8750 Месяц назад +2

    Please do a video on 2003 bawean incident

  • @Murat-zd7sj
    @Murat-zd7sj Месяц назад +2

    Greek and Brave, new comedy movie?

    • @vkuyrukcu
      @vkuyrukcu 20 дней назад

      Hollywood is trying hard to portrait Greek as brave. Maybe they should film another "300" movie.

  • @vpoulios2023
    @vpoulios2023 27 дней назад

    Greece had F4 fighters in readiness. However under no clarified circumstances till today the phantoms were not sent to Cyprus to pulverize the invading Turkish army..Make your on coclusions

    • @odysseasntalias5950
      @odysseasntalias5950 6 дней назад

      The F4 came a few Weeks before the invasion , they were less than a dozen, the pilots had been trained less than a hundred hours on them, actually one was damaged after a bad landing and after reaching the island from Crete they had only ten minutes over the island (!) and if intercepted and involved in a dogfight they would have no fuel to return...

  • @jayski9667
    @jayski9667 Месяц назад +6

    Modern Gayreeks same thing they did in izmir,started the war under the false claim to save the orthodox turks than they did a runner,same they did in cyprus.

  • @TELXINOS
    @TELXINOS Месяц назад +2

    it is obvious that the British wanted the Turks to occupy part of Cyprus, on the other hand it was more than certain that they wanted the Turks to seize Nicosia airport according to the statements of the commander of the I Raider Squadron, Major Papamelitou, who was transported with the Noratlas, the defense of the airport was a success with zero losses for the Greek side while the Turks had significant losses UNFCYP seeing that the Turks were unable to take the airport intervened and imposed a ceasefire and asked for the withdrawal of the Greeks which Major Papamelitou refused if it was not signed first handover protocol from the UNFCYP since the impression it has formed was that the intention of the UNFCYP was to allow the occupation of the airport by the Turks, it should be noted that according to the testimony of Major Papameletios during the battle the Greek forces were also under fire from his side camp of the UNFCYP which was near the airport finally the handover protocol is signed and the airport was never captured by the Turks even though the BBC reported that the airport had been captured when the battle was still in progress the second mission that the fate raised was the defense of Lefkosias in the area of ​​the high hill of Kolokasidi where and there after the destruction of 5 Turkish tanks with PAO 90 mm the Turks retreated. As for the air side of the operation, it was not foreseen by any defense plan, it was an operation that was planned and executed within a few hours, great care is taken to shoot down the aircraft, the commander of the anti-aircraft unit, who was informed, did not give orders not to open fire

    • @JagdgeschwaderX
      @JagdgeschwaderX Месяц назад

      I will never understand why our British 'government' would want that and the US was even more supportive of it.

    • @TELXINOS
      @TELXINOS Месяц назад

      @@JagdgeschwaderX First of all, you have a nation that controls the Suez and the Middle East, which was ruled by a radical leader who participates in the Non-Aligned Movement and has close ties to the USSR. Secondly, England, in all the colonies it was forced to give independence, always created conditions of instability, despite this, it maintained the commonwealth so that it could pretend to be England before the second world war. thirdly, in the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923, Turkey renounced all rights in Cyprus, although the British invited the Turks to the conferences of Zurich and London and recognized them as a community at the time when the Turkish Cypriots were a weak minority of 18% who in fact they wanted to create an independent state in a nation where 80% were Greek and 2% other ethnicities and they had supported the English during the liberation struggle of the EOKKA. During the flight of the Noratlas to Cyprus, they met the American aircraft carrier which did not do anything to stop them, on the contrary, when they passed over the English bases, they were informed that if any other Greek planes appeared, they would shoot them down.
      The English were a guarantor of power together with Greece and Turkey with Attila 1 the Turks had taken 18% of the island then the truce was made the Turks did not keep it and made Attila 2 the English did nothing to stop them and essentially the percentage that the Turks now occupy was occupied with flags without fighting since the UNFCYP recognized the occupied territories during the armistice. And finally, the English have greater responsibilities for the Cyprus problem than the Americans and we see this over time in other countries as well, India-Pakistan, the Falklands, Gibraltar, and even the withdrawal from the EU has to do with the fact that they could not digest the patriarchy of Germany

  • @kiwisteve6598
    @kiwisteve6598 Месяц назад

    The plane shown at the 40 second mark does not match the narration it’s got 4 engines a 727 has 3.

  • @IT-it2sw
    @IT-it2sw 10 дней назад

    the operation was nee-kee (nike)

  • @antgiat
    @antgiat Месяц назад +10

    Well they got there,held the airport into falling into turkish hands can't say that it was a complete failure!

    • @icebox9093
      @icebox9093 Месяц назад +10

      it was NOT the Greek commando's or national Guard that prevented Turkish forces from taking over the airport...on the 23rd of July National Guard Commander approached the UN and proposed to with draw their forces from the Airport and hand over the control to UN, if Turkish forces stop their advance...
      Following high level contact with UN Headquarters in New York, the following announcement was made on local radio, in the press and passed to both combatants.
      "The United Nations Force in Cyprus is taking over the Nicosia International Airport temporarily after a new and serious breach of the ceasefire earlier this morning in the vicinity of the airport. The airport thus becomes a United Nations internationally protected area. This will at the same time facilitate the arrival of reinforcements for UNFICYP".
      The following terms were explained to both sides:
      - the whole of the airport complex, including RAF Nicosia, Camp UNFICYP and the RAF quarters area lying within the perimeter wire fence, was to be regarded as a UN-protected area.
      - both sides must withdraw within one hour all troops to a point 500m beyond the perimeter wire and thereafter not approach within 500m of it.
      - UNFICYP would patrol the perimeter by scout car and on foot at regular intervals.
      - a UN officer would visit each side twice a day to see if either had any complaints or problems, and neither was to open fire before notifying these to the officer concerned.
      - UNFICYP would establish check-points on the Morphou road to prevent Greeks in civilian cars from driving past Turkish posts along the road.
      By 16:30hrs on the 23rd July the Greek forces had withdrawn from the airport and the size of the defending force was clear for all to see.
      Two tanks, eight armoured cars, three armoured personnel carriers, five 100m field guns, five vehicle mounted heavy quadruple machine guns, five Bofors anti-aircraft guns, five jeep mounted 105mm anti-tank guns, five trucks of ammunition and six bus loads of troops.
      This formidable force would have vigorously defended the airport resulting in a large loss of life and massive damage to the infrastructure.
      That evening, further obstacles were placed along the runways and a UN flag was flown from the terminal building. Due to a shortage of suitable armoured cars, airport fire trucks were used as patrol vehicles.
      A very eventful day finally came to an end.

    • @talha6852
      @talha6852 Месяц назад +1

      Lol so you were Grease after all

    • @antgiat
      @antgiat Месяц назад +1

      @@talha6852 are you sure your are turkey?do a DNA check,maybe it is going to be an eye opener for you....

    • @antgiat
      @antgiat Месяц назад +1

      @@icebox9093 well,according to witnesses it is reported that the greek paras held out against at least one prolonged effort by the turkish forces,before leaving it up to the UN forces.
      Besides the point was to get them there which they did,so it wasn't a failure.that is all i am saying

    • @hasnicktir5310
      @hasnicktir5310 Месяц назад +1

      @@antgiatTurkiye isbt build on ethnicity its built on people of different groups working together. There are ethic greeks that love turkiye. Even if he was greek it wouldnt change anything fır him

  • @sabahtaha1746
    @sabahtaha1746 Месяц назад

    pivb is of a boeing 707 not 727

  • @ottomanslapx7157
    @ottomanslapx7157 Месяц назад +1

    Besides unsuccesfull pretty arrogant as well.

  • @fistingendakenny8781
    @fistingendakenny8781 Месяц назад +5

    Irish army called the IDF, provided peacekeeping on Cyprus

    • @cjthebeesknees
      @cjthebeesknees Месяц назад +3

      Peacekeeping should be in quotations.

  • @asoulno.136
    @asoulno.136 Месяц назад +1

    Given the circumstances you couldn’t really say it was a total disaster. Yes there were casualties by friendly fire but the objective was not to let the Turks take the airport and thus cut off and capture Nicosia. This was achieved as the Greeks only left the airport once it was agreed and was taken over by the UN Peacekeeping Force and Not the Turks. Greece had the F4’s at the time who could easily reach Cyprus and outgun whatever Turkey had to offer. Strangely enough they never used them. Similarly two Greek German made submarines much more modern than anything Turkey had at the time, were twice stopped from destroying the Turkish landing force. It seems NATO considerations were imposed on Greece over their own national interests. It seems very strange to belong in an alliance that does not guarantee your safety 😂🙈. Greece was never really in danger from the Soviet Union, or now Russia, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania, Romania during the Cold War. Turkey a NATO “Ally” was, is and will always be the ONLY threat that Greece is facing. Unfortunately Greece has been an AngloAmerican protectorate and has mostly puppet governments to serve the “Alliance” FIRST and not National Interests FIRST.

    • @pimpompoom93726
      @pimpompoom93726 Месяц назад

      The Greek leadership at the time were not only amateurs at foreign policy, they were cowards. There is much Greece COULD have done with their air force and submarines, but the leadership left their balls at home.

    • @teoman5473
      @teoman5473 26 дней назад

      Biraz bir şeyler biliyorsun ama her şeyin karmakarışık. Girit, Suda adasından kalkacak bir Yunan F4 savaş uçağının Kıbrıs üzerinde kalma süresi, yanlış hatırlamıyorsam maksimum 16 dakika idi. Geri döneme şansları yoktu. 1974 yılında Türkiye, Yunanistan ile savaşmaya hazırdı. Savaşmaya hazır mantığının arkasındaki en önemli neden halkın % 80 in Yunandan 1922 in intikamını almak istiyordu. O zamanlar ben 16 yaşımda idim. Binlerce Türk genci gönüllü askerlik dairelerine gidip gönüllü oldular. Askerlik dairelerin kapısına, gelmeyin ihtiyaç yoktur diye yazılar astılar. Benim etrafımdaki abilerim, artık bu Yunan ile savaş çıksın da biz orduya katılalım diye can atıyorlardı. Kısaca Türk halkı çok motive olmuştu. İnanın, iyi ki 1974 yılında Türk Yunan savaşı çıkmadı çok kötü olacaktı (bugün böyle bir durum yok. Artık kimse savaş istemiyor), İkincisi, eğer Amerika savaşa, Yunan ile beraber müdahale etseydi, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Amerika ile savaşacaktı. Bunun için yaklaşık elli adet F5 uçaklarımızı, Amerikan 6 ıncı filosuna intihar saldırısı yapmaya hazırlamışlardı. Bunun anlamı, bu çatışma Amerika'nın Nato sisteminin çökmesine neden olacak, Sovyetler Birliğini dahil olması ile kartlar yeniden dağıtılacaktı. Henry Kissinger bu durumu çok net gördü ve Nato da Türklerden vazgeçemeyiz dedi. Olayları bugüne taşırsak gene aynı noktaları görebiliriz. Ama bugün, Türk Ekonomisi çok kötü olmasına rağmen askeri açıdan çok güçlüyüz. Eğer sizler Amerika'yı yanınızda savaşmaya ikna ederseniz ne olur, biliyor musunuz? Buradan bir Dünya savaşı bile çıkar, haritalar değişir, bizi yakarlar, yıkarlar ama ülkemize ele geçiremezler. Siz yok olursunuz yerinize başka milletler gelir. Bak Ukrayna'ya nüfus yaklaşık 40 milyon ama asker sıkıntısı çekiyor. Üçüncü olarak; Zaten Türk milleti savaşa, zorluklara ve acılara karşı bağışıklı bir halktır. Batı. Rusya'yı sıkıştırıyoruz falan diyorlar ama Ruslarda aynı özelliklere sahip, dayanıklı bir millettir.

  • @odysseasntalias5950
    @odysseasntalias5950 29 дней назад

    Deadly accidents from friendly fire are very often in 20th century warfare. The turks themselves in the same war managed to sink a destroyer ship and seriously damage 2 others , killing more than 100 sailors, considering them disguised greek ships approaching. Nevertheless operation NIKI was successful considering that almost all planes landed and added some elite soldiers who helped the defenceless island immensely. It was a suicide mission, everybody knew it and nobody "chickened". The last planes took of almost in day light, disobeying direct orders and that helped a lot since the last plane was carrying heavy guns , bazookas, mortars etc. If these guys didn't land and help the island's capital would probably fall . The poor cypriots were fighting turks ,3 times their army numbersv, holding lee enfield (WW1 ) rifles against M47 and M48 modern tanks , with no airforce against Turkish airforce which was constantly bombing even with napalms... May the memory of the lost be eternal...

    • @spurdosparde430
      @spurdosparde430 27 дней назад

      they fuck around and find out those "poor cypriots"

    • @odysseasntalias5950
      @odysseasntalias5950 27 дней назад

      Exactly . Poor brave cypriots who had the balls to resist the best they could with almost nothing . Is it true or not that turks were outnumbering them 3 to 1 or that the had no airforce , and only a few WW2 tanks to face M47 and M48 tanks??? Your irony shows that all the truthful things I wrote , made you feel angry and uncomfortable....

    • @imperatorromanorum3150
      @imperatorromanorum3150 25 дней назад

      @@odysseasntalias5950 Turkish military and economy was the weakest its ever been at the time of the operation. Genocidal EOKA-B and Greeks/Greek Cypriots illegally insisting on Enosis against the Treaty of Guarantee and London and Zurich Agreement makes the operation completely legal. It was still a diplomatic suicide by Turkey against the Western hypocrisy.

  • @feritgursoy7134
    @feritgursoy7134 22 дня назад

    Greece is no match for the Turks Türkiye is the powerful in the hole region

  • @kerem2008
    @kerem2008 Месяц назад +1

    It's genius not to add Turkish subtitles to this...

  • @eliassolomou980
    @eliassolomou980 Месяц назад +6

    Their efforts weren't in vain. They held the airport and punished the Turks badly. According to a Canadian UN soldier who was there they counted around 500 dead Turks.
    The Greeks didn't abandon the airport but signed it over to the U.N.
    To this day it is not occupied by the Turks.

    • @endomoto1
      @endomoto1 Месяц назад +7

      stories from the greek children's book so as not to have a bad conscience after the disastrous defeat in 1974

    • @catfood_03_4stray
      @catfood_03_4stray Месяц назад +1

      @@endomoto1 The airport of Nicosia is on the Greek-Cypriot side, even today, the Turks tried to take it, but they only took casualties.

    • @vasiliosthomas4883
      @vasiliosthomas4883 Месяц назад +1

      @@endomoto1 whatever makes u sleep well. perhaps you'll also tell us there is no Pontic Greek and Armenian genocides as well? :>

    • @KaanBeskardes
      @KaanBeskardes Месяц назад

      @@vasiliosthomas4883 keep coping, you failed at expelling Turkish Cypriots from the island.

  • @chris_hisss
    @chris_hisss Месяц назад +2

    Why did they want cyrprus? Historically was it theirs or something?

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 Месяц назад +6

      There was a Turkish population there, it was Turk-owned under the Ottomans, it gave them better control over the East Med. There is now also BIG offshore gas fields found, so they still want it for that.
      Greek opinions on this differ.

    • @endomoto1
      @endomoto1 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@MM22966Wrong. There were massacres of Turks. Entire villagers were buried alive, not to mention the bloody Christmases. after the Greek coup with the aim of uniting the island of Cyprus into Greece in order to realise their great nationalist ambitions. Turkey intervened in 1974 with Operation Attila to protect the Turkish minority.

    • @Sirius-Voyager
      @Sirius-Voyager Месяц назад +1

      before Greeks and Turks,There were a ancient Civilizations reigned to Island.Asyrians,Fenikes,Mikens,Egyptians etc.

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 Месяц назад

      @@endomoto1 And how many times did the Turks do stuff like that to the Greeks? Under the Ottomans, and before and during the 1920-21 war? It's all so tiresome...

  • @feliscatus749
    @feliscatus749 Месяц назад

    So was anyone ever court martialed for this?

    • @minertheo
      @minertheo Месяц назад +3

      No. High-ranking officers in charge at the time were tried for their part in the Junta, not for specific conduct in the conflict.

    • @panagiotissoropidis3739
      @panagiotissoropidis3739 Месяц назад

      Of course not! This was the plan of greek politicians and the heads of the Greek army! To let Turkish forces to occupy the island. There is a simple reason for this. Greece is just a protectorate of USA.

  • @peternystrom921
    @peternystrom921 Месяц назад

    What i dont get is every one seem to lack AA
    Just bring AA would win so many Wars.

  • @B8.5OZ
    @B8.5OZ Месяц назад

    😂😂😂 best laugh I have had in a while.

  • @apmoy70
    @apmoy70 Месяц назад +7

    Who claims that it was a failure? The Nicosia Airport isn't in Turkish hands because of them...ask the Turkish paras in Kocakaya, I'm sure they'll have fond memories from their encounters with them

    • @chanrun7331
      @chanrun7331 Месяц назад +10

      Nicosia Airport isn’t in Turkish hands because US and UK stopped the operation while the Turkish side advanced into the south. I don’t understand why you Greeks always fill yourselves with empty dreams. If you were so brave, why you didn’t stop The Turks everywhere in the island in the first place. Turkish side passed over you like a cylinder everywhere in the island during that war. And you are still the same. Your army, your officers or your soldiers didn’t fire an actual bullet for the last 60 years or so but you are still shaking to the Turkish side whose army is fully operational during that period, fully engaged in wars in Syria, in Iraq, Karabagh or Armenia.. You should know you have no chance with seasoned fighting warriors.

    • @apmoy70
      @apmoy70 Месяц назад +4

      @@chanrun7331 I presume you're a Turk...read the accounts of your own Mehmet Ali Birand, and spare us with the history lesson. Oh, and molón labé mongols

    • @AnatolianHittite
      @AnatolianHittite Месяц назад +6

      ​@@apmoy70We came all the way from Mongolia to kick your ass

    • @minertheo
      @minertheo Месяц назад

      ​@@chanrun7331Greek officers of the units that took part in the airfield battle tell a different story, that the UN did not really care who would get the airfield, even that they tried to oust them so Turks could find it empty.

    • @fre31444
      @fre31444 25 дней назад

      copium

  • @chrismartin3197
    @chrismartin3197 Месяц назад

    What plane is in the thumbnail? Looks French WW II

  • @nedko1652
    @nedko1652 Месяц назад

    Do not shoot your f35 s next time

    •  Месяц назад +1

      Marinov; Savaşlar sadece havadan vurdum kaçtım bitti ! ile olmuyor, F35 ler vurur ama sonra kalktıkları havaalanlarını geride bulamazlar..

  • @damianhoratiu2287
    @damianhoratiu2287 Месяц назад

    Tipically Balkan lack of preparadness.

  • @cengizhan8129
    @cengizhan8129 Месяц назад +1

    Half of noratlas fleet turn back at HALF OF THE WAY....

  • @inhocsignovinces1081
    @inhocsignovinces1081 Месяц назад

    C-118 Boxcars

  • @ergunyildizoglu8018
    @ergunyildizoglu8018 Месяц назад

    All these greek operations,forces,aircrafts,equipments, all total efforts benefit to greeks = zero ( nothing) 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @zapokoin6133
    @zapokoin6133 Месяц назад +1

    yea they fucked