Not often have I seen the split between “I am so done, let me breathe for awhile” and “I have to do this for my family and community, let me tap that well just a little more, please be just a little more..” Get some rest Joel , happy holidays
I'm still running an Ender 3 I bought years ago for really cheap and it still works well for what it is. But man, every time I see what the newer printers are capable of I'm really tempted to start setting money aside for one every time I see them get cheaper.
I've been using an Ender 3 Pro since they came out. I just pulled the trigger on this A1. I think it will be a huge upgrade and even if I don't use it often for multicolor, I can and that's a big deal for me.
I'm still on my ender 5 which I upgraded a lot, but I think it's time to move on, I need more print speed and ideally bigger build volume. Build volume is the only thing that still keeps me from buying A1 as I hope they will announce the XL printer any time soon, everyone knows it's coming so I don't want to pull the trigger too soon.
My friend wanted to get his first 3d printer because his son was interested and he wants to do some functional prints for his workshop. He was waiting to order the A1 mini because the price point for multicolor, but after your live stream, that I got halfway through before it went unlisted, I told him the full A1 is a better choice depending on the price and I think it's a great choice. I wished they were more open source, but for new people who just want things to work, I understand the tradeoff.
I feel that Bambu should offer a large format CoreXY box. It's what the community needs right now. The Bambu A1 looks like a nice beginner PLA printer. It's got the potential to be the Ender3 Killer, but only time will tell. Robust usage will determine the A1 legacy.
I got the mini, I wanted something small to put next to me on the desk. I was ... BLOWN AWAY. Truly plug and play, no muss no fuss, just press slice ... and press send. And I have had a couple 3d printers over the years. Ok experiences on most (i do check reviews first) but the A1 mini (and I am sure this one too) are just insane. Haven't used the AMS lite yet mind (like I said I want a small one for on the desk so for now the AMS is just in case I want it later).
I think that bambu labs will drop their first large format printer as a corexy but I think they will drop it with the best qualities of both the A1 and the carbon because adding the certain upgrades on the A1 such as the quick change nozzle I think will be a standard from here on out and then later on we will get a large format bed slinger
Bought an A1 Mini with the AMS & compaerd to my Ender 5 it's mind blowing the options I now have. When I saw that the A1 mini had 2 power ports it looks easy enough to make a lager block for the head & it wouldn't take Bambu much work to modify the software. For the next version Maybe a A1 Max with 2 heads & 2 AMS systems. It would allow for tandem prints or 8 colour single models. Having two heads would also cut down on the poop as it wouldn't need to purge as much. It's good that I can use the Bambu Studio to slice for my Ender so I don't need to keep swapping between softwares & the quality is better on the Ender compared with Simplyfy I was using before. Can't wait to see what they do next.
You can hear it in Joel’s voice and see it in his body language….. “All of these innovations should’ve been Prusa but they got too high on their own supply and forced us into the arms of another lover”
I would like to see a large core XY machine. It doesn't have to be enclosed but can provide the option, like the P1P. Large bed slinger just dont perform well. A tall print will sway as the bed is moving quickly causing more imperfections the taller it gets.
I agree. But that doesn't seem to be relevant for most people anymore. In the review of the A1 Mini, Joel said "Open Source is paramount". That was no longer the case here. He didn't even mention the closed ecosystem or closed source firmware. Everyone is turning away from what used to be the 3d printing community just for some convenience features. My concern is that Bambu Lab will take over the whole market like DJI took over the drone market and in the end we will only have Bambu Lab or DIY printers and nothing in between. The aftermarket will also dry up or shrink dramatically.
all that good stuff about the filament monitoring system is great. Am waiting to see this advancement translate into less or no waste in multicolor printing. I mean why isn't it possible to have an option in the slicer that supports "approximated color print accuracy"? This option will sense when the next color is to be changed, and no exactly when it must cut the prevailing color filament and feed the next color. This way if there is 50mm of filament in that last mile of the print head, then we can leverage that knowledge ahead of the swap and effectively remove any waste at all. At least it could be offered first as an option for draft prints, and then for fine or super fine prints, optimize the waste also. Why is this so difficult? 1. Slicer knows all the layers, and has based the pre-planned movement of the print head. 2. Slicer can be fed with material properperties. 3. Slicer knows the printer type, so printer characteristics are known and given that there is a feedback from the hot end and bed back to the controllers, this is a mathematical problem that can be solved with software engineering. Am still unclear why this is so hard to at least offer zero or less waste of materials for color prinitng in 2023 with these smarter printers. What am i missing?
Who is it for? This is by and large the best 3D Print Farm machine out there. 5 of these printers for $2k. And all of them churning at 500mm/s. That’s a revenue machine there…
@Joel, would you be able to set up a custom material profile? I have been printing with SBS and absolutely love it, not hydroscopic, which transforms my casual printing experience as I now have a rainbow of colours without faffing about drying filament. It is somewhat soft and had to tune my cura profile over time to the point where it is wonderful and a great replacement for pla. Considering that my UMO+ (albeit upgraded) and Ender 3Spro’s are such wonderful workhorses, I am aware that they are aging and faster tech and features are amazing, hemce my filament question. Thanks from CPT, za
This will be the next go-to print farm rig, and the final nail in the coffin for most other entry level printers. Old 3d printers on marketplace are starting to pile up and even a1 minis are popping up since yesterday.
Give us an actual X1 mini - enclosed and able to print ABS no problem. I would dig a printer with the build volume of a Voron 0 since most of my models would fit on the small plate.
I still just want Bambu Lab to make a belt-printer, and base it off of the P1, then we might finally get a reliable user-friendly 45-degree belt-printer with multi-material system, and that would be sick.
$399. We were all right! Although $719.00 CAD for the combo is just too pricey for my blood, maybe if it goes on 25% off sale I'll grab one. I do like it, as it seems feature-packed, but I also sort of like manually upgrading my old Sidewinder to have all these features. If anything, these sorts of printers validate ideas, and eventually help to make mainstream upgrade kits I can grab off Aliexpress. I'm more tempted to save up and get a metal powder printer at some point. Titanium. yum.
This is Bambu looking to take market share away from competitors. That and all the speculation as to what's next is Bambu now building momentum, building hype, like Apple with the next iPhone, Rockstar with GTA VI. They have built that hype into all their future offerings, we will always be looking for what's next out of them. People are buying this even though they have an X1C and P1S and P1P. Is this a negative? I don't think so, they got me sold lol, I got 2 from them already lol.
Anyone else have this A1 ? I just got mine and after updating to latest 1.03** I get a low temperature mode warning and can't do anything , after rolling back to 1.02** it's working fine.
I got my A1 mini two days after the release of the A1, form what I hear these two printers are pretty much the same except for size. Would printing with complicated filaments such as PETG or ASA have the same success as it did with the A1 as seen in this video????
So I'm still fairly new to 3D printing. I can make my own models in blender and I have an Elegoo Mars 3 pro that Ive had good results with. But is this a good entry point for filament printers? I've looked at so many and a lot of them seem like old cars that I have to upgrade and swap parts and invest so much extra cash just to get them running. Is there an out of the box filament printer? Sorry if thats a dumb question.
The biggest problem I still see with all Bamboo printers is that they are not open sourced. I suppose if that matters to you then just don't buy Bamboo !!??
Personally I would love a larger P1S at a minimum 300x300x300. My thoughts on the A1 its going to be hard to beat. It was not too long ago that people settled for changing just about every part on a 3D printer just to make it work like it should have in the first place. I can't wait for what the future holds from Bambu and this is only the beginning.
I think you’re onto something. I’m currently rocking a i3 clone that is so covered in mods and upgrades that something always needs fiddled with. I’m building a Voron, and ended up grabbing an A1 to knock out those parts quicker, and a little more painlessly. With a brim and a little time to let the bed heat soak properly, it’ll print ABS and ASA with no problems
I would love to have a larger x1c for sure. There are some practical limits to belt driven corexy systems to retain the speed and quality, so I get it. That said, I love my x1c and I ordered an A1. The A1 is going to be my PLA/PETG machine, focused on day to day prints and hopefully a little quieter than my x1c. The x1c is going to be loaded out with ASA for when I need more durable prints or UV stable things. What I love about the x1c (and hopefully the A1) is that my hobby finally is 3D printing, not 3D printers. I got tired of fiddling with everything as I went through no fewer than 10 other printers.
imo they need a p1p that has that 42-50cm build volume. everybody i've seen who buys a big printer is mostly there to print big PLA. They want clockwork containers, swords and mandalorian helmets. People need to stop pretending functional industrial parts are a consideration for these printers lol 😅
@@knifeyonline I just want a bigger bed so that my multicolour prints can go from 4 prints with 200g waste to 9 or more prints with 200g waste The waste per print avg would go down significantly I now have the P1P which I have used for full bed multi colour prints with over 40pcs on there That avg waste was more than acceptable But I'll always want that number to go down 😅
Joel sounds unenthusiastic because he knows there won’t be anything else worth reviewing in the 3D printing market for 2024 when it comes to price to performance
Bambu P1S user here. Bambu got me into 3D printing after giving up years ago due to terrible user experience of Creality. Now I can just print, without screwing around! Brilliant!
A1 Max To be honest enclosed printers are more for things like higher temp filaments like abs, I love the Core XY system, like my P1S and K1 Max but i also Have a Neptune 4 Plus but if i was honest Id rather have that size with the tech of Bambu Lab.
The trouble is once you start getting the basics under your belt you will want to experience with different filaments. So eventually you will need an enclosed system. Don't believe me try printing abs or carbon fiber. This thing will destroy prusa
Same here, felt like "Presenting printer No. 2315". I am printing now since 5 years on a old marlin modell and dont feel the need to change. Maybe because I printed it all and now it is a functional tool next to screw drivers. Running maybe once a month. With that said, I think 3D printing for private purpose follows the same pattern and after some time - it's over for many owners. At the same time, I dont expect for FDM printers any new stuff as speeds are getting limited by the nozzle nowadays. Propably the low budget versions will get upgrades to match the professional once and thats it. The only area I still see potential is to develope better filaments. This A1 is a good example how things have changed. First printers are like steampunk machines and new ones are like laserprinters. This hobby is about tweaking and improving but the A1 is not supposed for that. So sooner the later this "hobby" will dry out.
My x1c has almost 3000 hours. I’m blown away by the reliability and function of the x1c. Bambu is a paradigm shift and will bring a revolution to hyper local manufacturing or home use.
Considering that people have been asking for a bigger printer and BambuLab showed up bed slingers, I wouldn't be surprised if their next model is a delta printer.
@@dtibor5903 I think it's more a case of people looking at the X1 and P1 and going "wow these are great value, if you can do one at this size for that price I'd pay a bit more for an even bigger one". With the whole AMS setup a larger printer becomes very valuable for people who mass produce prints (especially multi color) as it means more prints per plate, which translates into filament wasttage being halved for every extra model you can fit on the bed. I for example sell a few bits and one of my models has a very simple color change half way through. I can fit 4 of these in an X1. If I could fit 8 on an X1XL that would cut my filament per item costs in half, not to mention would allow faster print and shipping times due to being able to do more at a time.
Good review and exactly what I have been thinking. I have a Bambu X1 Carbon with AMS, a P1P that I enclosed, two Rat Rigs and just got my 5 head Prusa XL running. I think Bambu needs to drop the P1P and the A1 Mini, the A1 is almost the same price and should be the entry level. The next printer needs to be the large flagship and a have at least a 400 mm cube core x-y and be enclosed. They have done many things right and have been able to deliver on their products. The Prusa was ordered two years ago and arrived last month, for now it has no completion in the way it can switch filaments, but I see that changing quickly. I am afraid that Bambu may go the way of Creality and have 92 versions of the same printer.
@edmarfilho2000 I would rather not in the comment section. Just watch some other videos on the A1 and you might piece together your own opinion. Joel is doing great things. Much respect.
@@NealBailey Every single video I have seen on it they say it's a great machine, Joel even says it's a great machine. I don't get what you are inferring.
I really enjoyed this video. I know at some level it may have been hard for you to make as you have personal relationships in other camps, but I think you provided a fair look at where this printer is targeted and who it is targeted at. One of the more impressive things you said was that it was not just a beginner machine and I agree. As a previous owner of Prusa printers, I now own several Bambu printers including 3 x1c's. And to be honest my favorite is the A1 mini. It's quiet, super simple to set up, and never gives me any problems whatsoever. So I'm looking forward to receiving my X1 as well. I consider myself an advanced 3D printer and have contributed models on both printables and makeerworld, and I really think this printer is a home run. It will be especially interesting to see if people start to build their own print farms based on this printer as it surely is affordable and significantly faster than other printers that fill up most print farms. Thanks again for your insights.
Joel, in his interview with Stefan from CNC Kitchen, Dr. Tao said they would be bringing out a larger version of the X1C in 2024. He mentioned it was under development.
I have concerns in regard to Bambu stating that only 0.1% of manufactured units have this particular issue after reading so many reports of the very same fault on so many devices, then next minute a total recall announced...... it would appear that their initial fault investigation was far from accurate. I also have not been impressed with Bambu Lab sending me correspondence stating "no one wants to be without a printer so if you wish to upgrade immediately to another one of our printers we will provide you with a discount voucher of $80" (or £74) against your purchase, now that i initially thought was great as i will upgrade to a P1S, then i find out that the voucher will not be issued untill after you have returned your faulty printer which will take several weeks, once again their definition of immediate is far from accurate.
You seem a little cranky... unwell? Or is it something else? It really seems like you didn't want to make this video.... pretty sure you mentioned that in the now missing livestream...
The A1 will be the first cost I make when starting my business I have other printers as a hobby now including a P1P But I like the fact that the A1 is open which means more space to work on I think the A1 xl is coming as the next machine It would only make sense
I still think it will be hilarious if they come out with an A1 Max before a large P1 printer. Edit: Just wanna note I left this comment way before you brought this up near the end, hahaha.
Well, that's fair. I've been crazy exhausted from lots of travel and family stuff - but I wanted to get my thoughts out on the A1. I've had quite a few people tell me they were waiting for my video on it. That and this was the second time I shot this - the first time there was a camera problem. Heh.
@3DPrintingNerd it's all good. Been watching for years (you might remember my name from the first mail Friday, my suggestion was to send self address envelopes) - take time for rest!
I was going to upgrade my mk3s to the mk4 version, but this is less expensive than the upgrade kit when you consider the time investment. Very tempting.
I got bitten back by the 3D-printed bug. I bought an Anycubic Kobra Max, followed by a Kobra 2 Max and a brand new Kobra 3 Combo. I've had to tinker so much with all three of them that it cooled my enthusiasm. I want to print stuff, not learn to build a printer, and not have the feeling to throw the dice with each print. I just bought an X1C, still coming, to shore up my excitement for the process. I hope it will repair my faith in the process. Anycubic is selling crap machines with poor quality control; I'll never buy another. As far as the next Bambu printer, a large bed-style Kobra Max would make me seriously consider it. Cheers
Yup, got the same vibe. Although I suspect there may be more important matters for Joel to focus on than yet another printer review. Hang in there Mate, and reach out to the Community if you can - we're here to support you.
Wow! If I had a 3D printer company just putting out the latest "ender clone", I'd be packing things in pretty soon, or start innovating because your days are numbered. I"ve only had my X1 for a few weeks, and I never want to touch any of my old printers. The X1C, while not perfect, is so far ahead in user experience and quality of prints than every printer I've used over the last 18 years. I am really hoping for an X1C style Bambu just at 400x400x400 mm minimum. Definitely not less than 350mm in each dimension. I'd love a much better camera (though the one in the X1C is OK, it can't focus on all parts of the bed and could use some other improvements), and really importantly, I'd love for them to use tool changing instead of a 1 nozzle solution, or at least get the color change time down to 30 seconds or less. I'm not doing nearly as much color printing as I expected because of how time consuming it is. Obviously the separate tools would lead to less plastic waste as well. I'd love for Bambu to come up with a replacement hot end that has much easier to change the size of the nozzles on the X1X. While I'm up for buying a new printer if it's bigger, I'm not buying one just so I can swatch nozzles easier. And improving the flow would be great as well. High-5!
I have the A1 Mini and just a few days ago I had 2 instances where their tension system worked great, one was where halfway my ptfe tube the filament broke, and it immediately detected it, and the second was where a spool got tangled it a bit. Now I will say it kept pulling so I kept hearing the filament being pulled out under another piece of filament, but as it got tighter and tighter, it pauzed and told me it seems to be stuck. Because of the way the printer works with the AMS, it just neatly purged some filament when it could go again and you simply cannot see where it paused. It's a fantastic system.
Hopefully a larger machine (310mm+) will be CoreXY and utilize the existing hardware components (so I don't need to stock a new line of replacement parts for every iteration) along with the current expandable full AMS system. Not wanting to get "Bambuzeled", or one to follow the hype, I hesitated until recently to purchase the P1S while waiting for a larger format machine, but in hindsight think it is the best machine and value I have purchased to date!
Congrats for the video. Regarding the question of the large format printer, whether bad slinger or coreXY, in my opinion they will do both if they want to defeat the competition. If we look at the timing aspect, making a bed slinger is much easier to make than the other option. Regarding the coreXY, seeing the interview on the cnc kitchen channel with the CEO of Bambu Lab, I understood that they don't want to create an X1XL, but they want to create an XL with new technology and improvements compared to the X1. This means that it will take some time before it can be released on the market So, reluctantly, I think the bad slinger comes out first.
A large format P2S combo with a screen like A1 and new features from A1 such as automatic flow control and quick hotend swaps would be the perfect machine. I would be pretty upset to buy my P1S combo and not wait for the dream machine but the dream machine P2S combo would be the only machine every 3d enthusiast would die to have.
Are you doing alright Joel? You sound kind of tired. I think the A1 looks pretty great. I decided to get it for my dad for Christmas. He's been interested in getting into it, and this is the cheapest way to get multicolor printing at a standard size.
Hey Joel, Im a little late to the party - Just not getting around to watching this. I wanted to mention that I honestly think this is the best video on the A1 I have seen. It is VERY easy to digest because there are not really any tech heavy discussions here. It is merely, here's the printer, what I have printed, and this is what I think the future looks like. I actually think this is a really good format for a product everyone already knows is top tier. Specs are largely irrelevant when there isn't really a competitor.
JOEL!! Thank you so much for subscribing to me!!! :) I cannot explain how excited that makes me! :D Thank you for giving me the opportunity to show you what i can do! :) Seeing your name pop up saying you subscribed is SO MOTIVATING!
I really hope they go with core xy. An A1Max worries me, going that fast on a bed slinger with a build plate that large (assuming 300+, but would want 400mm from bambu). Would be nuts. I’m sure it’s doable, but I just trust core xy more at speed.
I have been building 3D Printers since 2015. I own now a X1C. A cheaper 10 inch³ Printer is the Answer to the Question what to buy for a Beginner. Yes it cost twice the price of a Cheap Bedslinger but as someone who owns 1 1/2 broken Ender 3, and several Linear Bearing Printers which didn't broke, if the A1 has the endurance of a X1C then it is for times the printer. Most Cheap Printers print the first 100 hours good, then they need maintenance, after 200 hours heavy Maintenance, after 500 hours replacement parts. My X1C worked in the X-Mas season for 6 weeks 500 hours and get it's first Maintenance. My last Ender 3 pro had in his X-Mas season, got for just printing, about 300 hours and i had to replace the bed bearings. Software is good. I compare the Bambu Labs X1C to Voron 2.4 and this looks like a Switchwire. The competition is on. I hope for a 16 inch Printer from Bambu Labs or a 14 inch, instrestingly the Bambu Slicer supports my Tronxy X5SA 400 16 inch, so i only have to export to Octoprint and can use the same Software. So maybe 16 inch Bambu XL is comming.
I'd love for them to make a large format core XY machine but given cost and whatnot I'd expect their first large format printer to be a large scale bed slinger that is just a scaled up version of the A1. They should totally call it the B1 for obvious reasons.
I own a Creality Ender-3 V3 SE and I feel the bed is a bit too small, but it’s been working good so far. I’m now looking at some printers with larger beds but I’m torn between a CoreXY or another bed slinger. If anyone could give some constructive suggestions between these two options I’d be very grateful. Bambulab A1 with the AMS Lite or a Bambulab P1S without the AMS I’ve so far only printed with PLA or PETG, and it’s only for hobby projects
I suspect that they’ll turn out an A1-max (or A2, A+, ?) next, and wait to make a larger enclosed corexy until they know how the X1-E sells. I think a larger enclosed machine (aka preassembled large cube) would be prohibitive because of shipping and other logistics unless they were for a commercial/industrial customer that wouldn’t scoff at the additional expense.
Great video, first I've seen to truly consider the purchasing market. I'm looking at a'just works product' that allows quality multiple filament type printing. The only contents I see is the P1P... IMHO.
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Not often have I seen the split between “I am so done, let me breathe for awhile” and “I have to do this for my family and community, let me tap that well just a little more, please be just a little more..”
Get some rest Joel , happy holidays
I'm still running an Ender 3 I bought years ago for really cheap and it still works well for what it is. But man, every time I see what the newer printers are capable of I'm really tempted to start setting money aside for one every time I see them get cheaper.
Do it, I had a origianl cr-10 and upgraded to the p1p. It's such an upgrade i cant tell you how glad i am i switched.
I think that the A1 is going to become the Ender 3 for the everyman.
I've been using an Ender 3 Pro since they came out. I just pulled the trigger on this A1. I think it will be a huge upgrade and even if I don't use it often for multicolor, I can and that's a big deal for me.
I'm still on my ender 5 which I upgraded a lot, but I think it's time to move on, I need more print speed and ideally bigger build volume. Build volume is the only thing that still keeps me from buying A1 as I hope they will announce the XL printer any time soon, everyone knows it's coming so I don't want to pull the trigger too soon.
My friend wanted to get his first 3d printer because his son was interested and he wants to do some functional prints for his workshop.
He was waiting to order the A1 mini because the price point for multicolor, but after your live stream, that I got halfway through before it went unlisted, I told him the full A1 is a better choice depending on the price and I think it's a great choice. I wished they were more open source, but for new people who just want things to work, I understand the tradeoff.
I feel that Bambu should offer a large format CoreXY box. It's what the community needs right now.
The Bambu A1 looks like a nice beginner PLA printer. It's got the potential to be the Ender3 Killer, but only time will tell. Robust usage will determine the A1 legacy.
I got the mini, I wanted something small to put next to me on the desk. I was ... BLOWN AWAY. Truly plug and play, no muss no fuss, just press slice ... and press send. And I have had a couple 3d printers over the years. Ok experiences on most (i do check reviews first) but the A1 mini (and I am sure this one too) are just insane. Haven't used the AMS lite yet mind (like I said I want a small one for on the desk so for now the AMS is just in case I want it later).
I think that bambu labs will drop their first large format printer as a corexy but I think they will drop it with the best qualities of both the A1 and the carbon because adding the certain upgrades on the A1 such as the quick change nozzle I think will be a standard from here on out and then later on we will get a large format bed slinger
Bought an A1 Mini with the AMS & compaerd to my Ender 5 it's mind blowing the options I now have. When I saw that the A1 mini had 2 power ports it looks easy enough to make a lager block for the head & it wouldn't take Bambu much work to modify the software. For the next version Maybe a A1 Max with 2 heads & 2 AMS systems. It would allow for tandem prints or 8 colour single models. Having two heads would also cut down on the poop as it wouldn't need to purge as much.
It's good that I can use the Bambu Studio to slice for my Ender so I don't need to keep swapping between softwares & the quality is better on the Ender compared with Simplyfy I was using before.
Can't wait to see what they do next.
I've been holding out on Bambu, but ordered an A1 Combo. It's going to be interesting to benchmark it against in-house built machines.
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You can hear it in Joel’s voice and see it in his body language….. “All of these innovations should’ve been Prusa but they got too high on their own supply and forced us into the arms of another lover”
I would like to see a large core XY machine. It doesn't have to be enclosed but can provide the option, like the P1P. Large bed slinger just dont perform well. A tall print will sway as the bed is moving quickly causing more imperfections the taller it gets.
Yeeting that benchy off of the desk brought me joy! Hi 5
The issue is it's a closed system. No real ability to reuse or upgrade. I like a printer that I can keep updating like a PC.
I agree. But that doesn't seem to be relevant for most people anymore. In the review of the A1 Mini, Joel said "Open Source is paramount". That was no longer the case here. He didn't even mention the closed ecosystem or closed source firmware. Everyone is turning away from what used to be the 3d printing community just for some convenience features.
My concern is that Bambu Lab will take over the whole market like DJI took over the drone market and in the end we will only have Bambu Lab or DIY printers and nothing in between. The aftermarket will also dry up or shrink dramatically.
all that good stuff about the filament monitoring system is great. Am waiting to see this advancement translate into less or no waste in multicolor printing. I mean why isn't it possible to have an option in the slicer that supports "approximated color print accuracy"? This option will sense when the next color is to be changed, and no exactly when it must cut the prevailing color filament and feed the next color. This way if there is 50mm of filament in that last mile of the print head, then we can leverage that knowledge ahead of the swap and effectively remove any waste at all. At least it could be offered first as an option for draft prints, and then for fine or super fine prints, optimize the waste also. Why is this so difficult? 1. Slicer knows all the layers, and has based the pre-planned movement of the print head. 2. Slicer can be fed with material properperties. 3. Slicer knows the printer type, so printer characteristics are known and given that there is a feedback from the hot end and bed back to the controllers, this is a mathematical problem that can be solved with software engineering. Am still unclear why this is so hard to at least offer zero or less waste of materials for color prinitng in 2023 with these smarter printers. What am i missing?
Who is it for? This is by and large the best 3D Print Farm machine out there. 5 of these printers for $2k. And all of them churning at 500mm/s. That’s a revenue machine there…
I want a Bambu IDEX
I just ordered one of these A1 today
I want a bigger X1C. I want it to work with the regular AMS system.
@Joel, would you be able to set up a custom material profile? I have been printing with SBS and absolutely love it, not hydroscopic, which transforms my casual printing experience as I now have a rainbow of colours without faffing about drying filament. It is somewhat soft and had to tune my cura profile over time to the point where it is wonderful and a great replacement for pla. Considering that my UMO+ (albeit upgraded) and Ender 3Spro’s are such wonderful workhorses, I am aware that they are aging and faster tech and features are amazing, hemce my filament question. Thanks from CPT, za
Hope for a P2S, Core XY with a 300x300x300mm bulid space and a A1 like Display (and Features like the Quick swap Nozzle)
This will be the next go-to print farm rig, and the final nail in the coffin for most other entry level printers. Old 3d printers on marketplace are starting to pile up and even a1 minis are popping up since yesterday.
would LOVE to have a bambu the size of my creality 5 plus. 350 or 400m cubed. NO MORE BED SLINGERS.
Joel 🤝 Ash Ketchum
*turning your 🧢 backwards to show it’s business time* 0:43
Users: We want a larger X1
Bambu: Here's your larger A1
Go big! And I would buy it if under 1k.
Give us an actual X1 mini - enclosed and able to print ABS no problem. I would dig a printer with the build volume of a Voron 0 since most of my models would fit on the small plate.
Do you think Prusa will offer an MMU and/or AMS for the Prusa Mini?
Great video. Thank you!
I still just want Bambu Lab to make a belt-printer, and base it off of the P1, then we might finally get a reliable user-friendly 45-degree belt-printer with multi-material system, and that would be sick.
Is it just as user friendly when it comes to printing Silk PLAs?
$399. We were all right!
Although $719.00 CAD for the combo is just too pricey for my blood, maybe if it goes on 25% off sale I'll grab one. I do like it, as it seems feature-packed, but I also sort of like manually upgrading my old Sidewinder to have all these features. If anything, these sorts of printers validate ideas, and eventually help to make mainstream upgrade kits I can grab off Aliexpress.
I'm more tempted to save up and get a metal powder printer at some point. Titanium. yum.
This is Bambu looking to take market share away from competitors. That and all the speculation as to what's next is Bambu now building momentum, building hype, like Apple with the next iPhone, Rockstar with GTA VI. They have built that hype into all their future offerings, we will always be looking for what's next out of them. People are buying this even though they have an X1C and P1S and P1P. Is this a negative? I don't think so, they got me sold lol, I got 2 from them already lol.
The asa printed okay without an enclosure? considering its listed not recommended im very impressed!
Yep! Totally okay. My guess is a very large ASA print might have some issues with drafts, but this one did not.
@@3DPrintingNerd What brand of ASA?
Great video. Where can i find the stl to print the blue and green item ( the cup with the geared screw cap) that you wouldn’t toss off the table
That’s a Clockspring3D model!
@@3DPrintingNerd thx
@@3DPrintingNerd thx i dont see that print searching him in makerworld
@@brianpage5136 He is on Printables: www.printables.com/model/644708-transposition-tank
I’m close to getting the K1 max. I’m waiting for Bambu to give me a reason not too
Let's hope that's next year!
Anyone else have this A1 ? I just got mine and after updating to latest 1.03** I get a low temperature mode warning and can't do anything , after rolling back to 1.02** it's working fine.
what about vfa? is that pretty much non existent with this printer? i have a k1 and the vfa is really annoying me.
I got my A1 mini two days after the release of the A1, form what I hear these two printers are pretty much the same except for size. Would printing with complicated filaments such as PETG or ASA have the same success as it did with the A1 as seen in this video????
So I'm still fairly new to 3D printing. I can make my own models in blender and I have an Elegoo Mars 3 pro that Ive had good results with. But is this a good entry point for filament printers? I've looked at so many and a lot of them seem like old cars that I have to upgrade and swap parts and invest so much extra cash just to get them running. Is there an out of the box filament printer? Sorry if thats a dumb question.
I want one tho
This or Ender 3 V3 KE?
Can you use PVA for support? And just for support interface? Oh I did hear soluble supports mentioned but what about just at interface?
Yes, you can set the filament for the support interface!
@@3DPrintingNerd Ah good to know. Thanks.
if its not a large CoreXY enclosed printer they have tuned out their user base
Joel is feeling salty today.
I THREW IT ON THE GROUND.
@@3DPrintingNerd sure did. Haha
Great video and appreciate the effort post smrrf, have a good rest over christmas!
Are you alright? :(
You seems a bit down.
Nice video!
The biggest problem I still see with all Bamboo printers is that they are not open sourced. I suppose if that matters to you then just don't buy Bamboo !!??
Personally I would love a larger P1S at a minimum 300x300x300. My thoughts on the A1 its going to be hard to beat. It was not too long ago that people settled for changing just about every part on a 3D printer just to make it work like it should have in the first place. I can't wait for what the future holds from Bambu and this is only the beginning.
really? your the first to say that that I have seen thus far...
I think you’re onto something. I’m currently rocking a i3 clone that is so covered in mods and upgrades that something always needs fiddled with. I’m building a Voron, and ended up grabbing an A1 to knock out those parts quicker, and a little more painlessly. With a brim and a little time to let the bed heat soak properly, it’ll print ABS and ASA with no problems
I would love to have a larger x1c for sure. There are some practical limits to belt driven corexy systems to retain the speed and quality, so I get it. That said, I love my x1c and I ordered an A1. The A1 is going to be my PLA/PETG machine, focused on day to day prints and hopefully a little quieter than my x1c. The x1c is going to be loaded out with ASA for when I need more durable prints or UV stable things. What I love about the x1c (and hopefully the A1) is that my hobby finally is 3D printing, not 3D printers. I got tired of fiddling with everything as I went through no fewer than 10 other printers.
The new X1C update really quieted mine down
@@spezzyImpressively quiet compared to before
imo they need a p1p that has that 42-50cm build volume. everybody i've seen who buys a big printer is mostly there to print big PLA. They want clockwork containers, swords and mandalorian helmets. People need to stop pretending functional industrial parts are a consideration for these printers lol 😅
@@knifeyonline I just want a bigger bed so that my multicolour prints can go from 4 prints with 200g waste to 9 or more prints with 200g waste
The waste per print avg would go down significantly
I now have the P1P which I have used for full bed multi colour prints with over 40pcs on there
That avg waste was more than acceptable
But I'll always want that number to go down 😅
Joel sounds unenthusiastic because he knows there won’t be anything else worth reviewing in the 3D printing market for 2024 when it comes to price to performance
Bambu P1S user here. Bambu got me into 3D printing after giving up years ago due to terrible user experience of Creality. Now I can just print, without screwing around! Brilliant!
Hey, bambu p1s user aswell! Since when do you print with it and do you have troubles with the extruder?
A1 Max To be honest enclosed printers are more for things like higher temp filaments like abs, I love the Core XY system, like my P1S and K1 Max but i also Have a Neptune 4 Plus but if i was honest Id rather have that size with the tech of Bambu Lab.
or for us who have cats :D
The trouble is once you start getting the basics under your belt you will want to experience with different filaments. So eventually you will need an enclosed system.
Don't believe me try printing abs or carbon fiber.
This thing will destroy prusa
Joel looks SO done here LOL. Can't tell if he's playing it up or just done with everything. Hope everything is okay!
he needs a break for sure
@@AdrienRochereau hopefully just jeglag from coming over to the UK for the RRF, and then having to make this video for a deadline! We love you Joel!
I think he just doesn't like Bambu
Same here, felt like "Presenting printer No. 2315". I am printing now since 5 years on a old marlin modell and dont feel the need to change. Maybe because I printed it all and now it is a functional tool next to screw drivers. Running maybe once a month. With that said, I think 3D printing for private purpose follows the same pattern and after some time - it's over for many owners.
At the same time, I dont expect for FDM printers any new stuff as speeds are getting limited by the nozzle nowadays. Propably the low budget versions will get upgrades to match the professional once and thats it. The only area I still see potential is to develope better filaments.
This A1 is a good example how things have changed. First printers are like steampunk machines and new ones are like laserprinters. This hobby is about tweaking and improving but the A1 is not supposed for that. So sooner the later this "hobby" will dry out.
My x1c has almost 3000 hours. I’m blown away by the reliability and function of the x1c. Bambu is a paradigm shift and will bring a revolution to hyper local manufacturing or home use.
I half hoped you shoved the A1 off at the end like you did the benchy. 😂
I *almost* did on accident!
Joel, I love your content. Thanks for pushing through whatever's got you like this for my enjoyment.
Considering that people have been asking for a bigger printer and BambuLab showed up bed slingers, I wouldn't be surprised if their next model is a delta printer.
Or a resin
There are like 100 people who need large printers, but they cry on every social media.
@@dtibor5903 I think it's more a case of people looking at the X1 and P1 and going "wow these are great value, if you can do one at this size for that price I'd pay a bit more for an even bigger one". With the whole AMS setup a larger printer becomes very valuable for people who mass produce prints (especially multi color) as it means more prints per plate, which translates into filament wasttage being halved for every extra model you can fit on the bed.
I for example sell a few bits and one of my models has a very simple color change half way through. I can fit 4 of these in an X1. If I could fit 8 on an X1XL that would cut my filament per item costs in half, not to mention would allow faster print and shipping times due to being able to do more at a time.
@@dtibor5903 u are the kind of guy that always said that the iphone 4 screen size is big enough, no need for more
These are the end days for Prusa MK4 and perhaps the whole company....
Good review and exactly what I have been thinking. I have a Bambu X1 Carbon with AMS, a P1P that I enclosed, two Rat Rigs and just got my 5 head Prusa XL running. I think Bambu needs to drop the P1P and the A1 Mini, the A1 is almost the same price and should be the entry level. The next printer needs to be the large flagship and a have at least a 400 mm cube core x-y and be enclosed. They have done many things right and have been able to deliver on their products. The Prusa was ordered two years ago and arrived last month, for now it has no completion in the way it can switch filaments, but I see that changing quickly. I am afraid that Bambu may go the way of Creality and have 92 versions of the same printer.
Joel, great job on this one. I feel I know exactly what was running through your head and it couldn't have been presented any better. High five
Could you help me understand? I know that are some message in this video... I just didn't get it...
@edmarfilho2000 I would rather not in the comment section. Just watch some other videos on the A1 and you might piece together your own opinion. Joel is doing great things. Much respect.
@@NealBailey Tku, Nathan Build Robots - The Truth About Bambu Lab - Full A1 Specs List, make it clear to me.
@@NealBailey Every single video I have seen on it they say it's a great machine, Joel even says it's a great machine. I don't get what you are inferring.
I really enjoyed this video. I know at some level it may have been hard for you to make as you have personal relationships in other camps, but I think you provided a fair look at where this printer is targeted and who it is targeted at. One of the more impressive things you said was that it was not just a beginner machine and I agree. As a previous owner of Prusa printers, I now own several Bambu printers including 3 x1c's. And to be honest my favorite is the A1 mini. It's quiet, super simple to set up, and never gives me any problems whatsoever. So I'm looking forward to receiving my X1 as well. I consider myself an advanced 3D printer and have contributed models on both printables and makeerworld, and I really think this printer is a home run. It will be especially interesting to see if people start to build their own print farms based on this printer as it surely is affordable and significantly faster than other printers that fill up most print farms. Thanks again for your insights.
Joel, in his interview with Stefan from CNC Kitchen, Dr. Tao said they would be bringing out a larger version of the X1C in 2024. He mentioned it was under development.
He also said, that is hard to build big printer and next printer will be a resin printer.
Correct; however they are working on the large-format machine for sometime in 2024.
The top end resin printer market is already near impossible to beat. I hope they focus on FDM. @@MartinWolker
My vote: Larger X1C with at least two nozzles to allow multi material without cross contamination.
I have concerns in regard to Bambu stating that only 0.1% of manufactured units have this particular issue after reading so many reports of the very same fault on so many devices, then next minute a total recall announced...... it would appear that their initial fault investigation was far from accurate.
I also have not been impressed with Bambu Lab sending me correspondence stating "no one wants to be without a printer so if you wish to upgrade immediately to another one of our printers we will provide you with a discount voucher of $80" (or £74) against your purchase, now that i initially thought was great as i will upgrade to a P1S, then i find out that the voucher will not be issued untill after you have returned your faulty printer which will take several weeks, once again their definition of immediate is far from accurate.
You seem a little cranky... unwell? Or is it something else? It really seems like you didn't want to make this video.... pretty sure you mentioned that in the now missing livestream...
The A1 will be the first cost I make when starting my business
I have other printers as a hobby now including a P1P
But I like the fact that the A1 is open which means more space to work on
I think the A1 xl is coming as the next machine
It would only make sense
I hope their large format machine will be enclosed otherwise I'll just go buy a elegoo orangestorm
Joel when you going to make a video about the Email they send all 3d printer influencesrs about stop usting this printer
I still think it will be hilarious if they come out with an A1 Max before a large P1 printer.
Edit: Just wanna note I left this comment way before you brought this up near the end, hahaha.
This seemed like you had to make the video, not that you wanted to make the video.
Well, that's fair. I've been crazy exhausted from lots of travel and family stuff - but I wanted to get my thoughts out on the A1. I've had quite a few people tell me they were waiting for my video on it. That and this was the second time I shot this - the first time there was a camera problem. Heh.
@3DPrintingNerd it's all good. Been watching for years (you might remember my name from the first mail Friday, my suggestion was to send self address envelopes) - take time for rest!
You said there was a mistake about bed temp but you fixed it seamlessly. Excellent work Joel 😁
I was going to upgrade my mk3s to the mk4 version, but this is less expensive than the upgrade kit when you consider the time investment. Very tempting.
You seem disappointed that there isn't anything to talk about. 😁
Hi Joel, great video but you didnt seem like your typical upbeat self in this one. Hope all is ok and if not hope it gets better soon.
I got bitten back by the 3D-printed bug. I bought an Anycubic Kobra Max, followed by a Kobra 2 Max and a brand new Kobra 3 Combo. I've had to tinker so much with all three of them that it cooled my enthusiasm. I want to print stuff, not learn to build a printer, and not have the feeling to throw the dice with each print. I just bought an X1C, still coming, to shore up my excitement for the process. I hope it will repair my faith in the process. Anycubic is selling crap machines with poor quality control; I'll never buy another.
As far as the next Bambu printer, a large bed-style Kobra Max would make me seriously consider it.
Cheers
I love my P1S. But because they have ignored us I’m moving do a different brand to get a larger printer
There must be a Bambu labs lawyer with a gun behind the camera, something is off.
Yes, I agree
Yup, got the same vibe. Although I suspect there may be more important matters for Joel to focus on than yet another printer review. Hang in there Mate, and reach out to the Community if you can - we're here to support you.
Huh? Can you explain further?
DUDE. Yes, 1000%.
Wow! If I had a 3D printer company just putting out the latest "ender clone", I'd be packing things in pretty soon, or start innovating because your days are numbered. I"ve only had my X1 for a few weeks, and I never want to touch any of my old printers. The X1C, while not perfect, is so far ahead in user experience and quality of prints than every printer I've used over the last 18 years.
I am really hoping for an X1C style Bambu just at 400x400x400 mm minimum. Definitely not less than 350mm in each dimension. I'd love a much better camera (though the one in the X1C is OK, it can't focus on all parts of the bed and could use some other improvements), and really importantly, I'd love for them to use tool changing instead of a 1 nozzle solution, or at least get the color change time down to 30 seconds or less. I'm not doing nearly as much color printing as I expected because of how time consuming it is. Obviously the separate tools would lead to less plastic waste as well.
I'd love for Bambu to come up with a replacement hot end that has much easier to change the size of the nozzles on the X1X. While I'm up for buying a new printer if it's bigger, I'm not buying one just so I can swatch nozzles easier. And improving the flow would be great as well.
High-5!
This is a shot across the bow. Good. As someone who has suffered the Prusa MMU2 making my printer completely unusable, I look forward to this printer.
Personally, I'd prefer an "X1XL" versus an "A1XL".
Bambu has made it pretty clear that that's coming.
@logitech4873 yes they have. I believe it's the next bambu printer we'll see.
Looking forward to putting this through its paces!
Cannot wait!
Is the MK3 being dethroned? 👀
On Easter they will lunch A1 XL and Christmas's it will be X1 XL
I have the A1 Mini and just a few days ago I had 2 instances where their tension system worked great, one was where halfway my ptfe tube the filament broke, and it immediately detected it, and the second was where a spool got tangled it a bit. Now I will say it kept pulling so I kept hearing the filament being pulled out under another piece of filament, but as it got tighter and tighter, it pauzed and told me it seems to be stuck.
Because of the way the printer works with the AMS, it just neatly purged some filament when it could go again and you simply cannot see where it paused. It's a fantastic system.
Hopefully a larger machine (310mm+) will be CoreXY and utilize the existing hardware components (so I don't need to stock a new line of replacement parts for every iteration) along with the current expandable full AMS system. Not wanting to get "Bambuzeled", or one to follow the hype, I hesitated until recently to purchase the P1S while waiting for a larger format machine, but in hindsight think it is the best machine and value I have purchased to date!
would love if it were built in such a way as to put two AMS on top
Congrats for the video.
Regarding the question of the large format printer, whether bad slinger or coreXY, in my opinion they will do both if they want to defeat the competition.
If we look at the timing aspect, making a bed slinger is much easier to make than the other option.
Regarding the coreXY, seeing the interview on the cnc kitchen channel with the CEO of Bambu Lab, I understood that they don't want to create an X1XL, but they want to create an XL with new technology and improvements compared to the X1. This means that it will take some time before it can be released on the market
So, reluctantly, I think the bad slinger comes out first.
A large format P2S combo with a screen like A1 and new features from A1 such as automatic flow control and quick hotend swaps would be the perfect machine. I would be pretty upset to buy my P1S combo and not wait for the dream machine but the dream machine P2S combo would be the only machine every 3d enthusiast would die to have.
Are you doing alright Joel? You sound kind of tired.
I think the A1 looks pretty great. I decided to get it for my dad for Christmas. He's been interested in getting into it, and this is the cheapest way to get multicolor printing at a standard size.
Same thoughts here, he looks very tired
Hey Joel, Im a little late to the party - Just not getting around to watching this. I wanted to mention that I honestly think this is the best video on the A1 I have seen. It is VERY easy to digest because there are not really any tech heavy discussions here. It is merely, here's the printer, what I have printed, and this is what I think the future looks like. I actually think this is a really good format for a product everyone already knows is top tier. Specs are largely irrelevant when there isn't really a competitor.
Thanks man!
Yeah, the "I pushed one button and made THIS!" I want a printer that isn't my hobby. I want printing to be my hobby.
JOEL!! Thank you so much for subscribing to me!!! :) I cannot explain how excited that makes me! :D
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to show you what i can do! :)
Seeing your name pop up saying you subscribed is SO MOTIVATING!
HECK YES!!!
I really hope they go with core xy. An A1Max worries me, going that fast on a bed slinger with a build plate that large (assuming 300+, but would want 400mm from bambu). Would be nuts. I’m sure it’s doable, but I just trust core xy more at speed.
Creality Plus 5 from YEARS ago 350x35x400 and NOT a bed slinger
I was close to buying one with the custom firmware now available. Glad I did not. For right now anyways
I have been building 3D Printers since 2015. I own now a X1C. A cheaper 10 inch³ Printer is the Answer to the Question what to buy for a Beginner. Yes it cost twice the price of a Cheap Bedslinger but as someone who owns 1 1/2 broken Ender 3, and several Linear Bearing Printers which didn't broke, if the A1 has the endurance of a X1C then it is for times the printer. Most Cheap Printers print the first 100 hours good, then they need maintenance, after 200 hours heavy Maintenance, after 500 hours replacement parts. My X1C worked in the X-Mas season for 6 weeks 500 hours and get it's first Maintenance. My last Ender 3 pro had in his X-Mas season, got for just printing, about 300 hours and i had to replace the bed bearings. Software is good. I compare the Bambu Labs X1C to Voron 2.4 and this looks like a Switchwire. The competition is on. I hope for a 16 inch Printer from Bambu Labs or a 14 inch, instrestingly the Bambu Slicer supports my Tronxy X5SA 400 16 inch, so i only have to export to Octoprint and can use the same Software. So maybe 16 inch Bambu XL is comming.
I'd love for them to make a large format core XY machine but given cost and whatnot I'd expect their first large format printer to be a large scale bed slinger that is just a scaled up version of the A1. They should totally call it the B1 for obvious reasons.
I own a Creality Ender-3 V3 SE and I feel the bed is a bit too small, but it’s been working good so far. I’m now looking at some printers with larger beds but I’m torn between a CoreXY or another bed slinger. If anyone could give some constructive suggestions between these two options I’d be very grateful.
Bambulab A1 with the AMS Lite or a Bambulab P1S without the AMS
I’ve so far only printed with PLA or PETG, and it’s only for hobby projects
100 C firmware issue I heard can limit to 80 C, firmware fix? Bed size build area two sizes?
I suspect that they’ll turn out an A1-max (or A2, A+, ?) next, and wait to make a larger enclosed corexy until they know how the X1-E sells. I think a larger enclosed machine (aka preassembled large cube) would be prohibitive because of shipping and other logistics unless they were for a commercial/industrial customer that wouldn’t scoff at the additional expense.
Great video, first I've seen to truly consider the purchasing market. I'm looking at a'just works product' that allows quality multiple filament type printing. The only contents I see is the P1P... IMHO.