"You're not after the truth. You want me to confess a story that you've already decided on. You have no interest in whatever the actual truth might be."
Ok, I don't know how the Doctor did that, but I love that he is basically just playing with them. He so calm. Like "Ok, I'll go along with your little game." And that little smirk at the end when the machine broke😂😂😂 I love it!! 💙💙
Everytime I see this: "I said 'No Lies.'" "I think he's telling the truth." "If he was telling the truth, he would't have told us." "Unless, of course, he knew you wouldn't believe in the truth even if he told it to you."
All 5 Pertwee years and the first three T. Baker years remain the all-time finest WHO in my eyes. As happy as I am that the program survives as the New Series, I will say that the New Series desperately needs a modern Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks. It was the Letts-Dicks 3rd Dr era that set the firm foundation for the Hinchcliffe-Holmes production team that followed. That is exactly what the New Series needs.
"There's just no telling some people, is there, my dear?" In one story the Doctor described something similar when the machine broke down because it couldn't accept his description of going to meet a group of creatures that included among others a purple horse with green spots. It was the absolute truth - the creatures were delegates on their way to a galactic peace conference. Sigh - how unimaginative machines can be.
I loved the interogation scene in War Games. A case of troughton acting it out by simply NOT acting. Being totally unreesponsive and calm, much to the chagrion of the interogator.. and the amusement of The Master (before anyone says anything.. I'm a heretic.. )
General Williams: Now we're gonna run a few tests. This is a simple lie detector. I'll ask you a few yes or no questions and you just answer truthfully. Do you understand? Homer: Yes. *BOOM*
"Tell us the truth!" "Maybe he's been brainwashed? He think he IS telling us the truth." "Then we'll have to break through his conditioning." *clears throat* "... Tell us the truth!"
My favorite era in DW is actually the original Sarah Jane era, in Seasons 11-14, and that covers 18 stories of both Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker. I actually like all the actors who have been "the Doctor" but dislike some of the eras with deteriorating writing and production in Seasons 15-26. My view of the best-to-worst Dr eras goes 3,4,2,1,11,10,5,7,9,8,6. No other production team has yet equaled the continuous improving 5-year-run of the Letts-Dicks-Pertwee team.
@6LordMortus9 Nope, not a word of a lie. In another scene (I don't know if it's the same story) this Doctor mentioned a similar situation in which he mentioned seeing among other weird creatures, a purple horse with green spots (IIRC). They just happened to be delegates on their way to an intergalactic peace conference.
@steve gale if you watch the screen in the background you can watch the doctor's memories. A mind probe probes the mind searching for information a lie detector states whether or not something is true. I can get more tecnical if you like.
And depending on the incarnation, the subject matter and who he's lying to is very very good at it. Eleven, to Amy, about what he's been up to? Horrible. And I don't think any of his incarnations could lie to the Brigadier.
@hypersam123 You should. Keep in mind though that it's only part one of a much longer story - Frontier in Space ties directly into the next 'episode.' On a sadder note, those two serials were Roger (The Master) Delgado's last story.
You're thinking of the 1st Dr's interrogation at the hands of the Moroks in "The Space Museum". Gov.Lobos puts him in a spcl"Interrogation chair"that shows them his thoughts. Then the Dr. begins playing w-their heads by imagining silly things like a Victorian Bike when they ask him how he got there, A flock of Sea Birds which he calls "Friends of mine" &then him wearing amusing stripey victorian Swimming attire, when Lobos insists "you're not aquatic!" to which the Dr.says"Oh I'm not am I? hehe"
For me, after HORROR OF FANG ROCK, there is a slow but perceptible trend down. The production after Season 18 may have improved, due to better equipment, but the creativity went down. Example, compare the superb lighting of MASQUE OF MADRAGORA or GENESIS OF THE DALEKS to the overly lit eras of Drs 5,6,&7. Considering only the best stories, I would almost follow your listing (4,3,11,10,9, 2,1,5,7,6,8.). Considering consistent overall quality of entire Dr era, its (3,4,11,10,9,2,1,5,7,6,8)
Actually...in "The Doctor's Wife," she mentions it, and says that the Doctor told her what happened and why he had to do what he did. They didn't really show the scene where she finds out or what her reaction was, but yeah, she knew.
Ah, those were the days. when the special effects department of the BBC thought putting plastic a plastic plate and bottle top on your forehead would thwart the doctor.....lol!
Man, this makes me wish I could find the original Doctor Who series.... sadly Its no where near me. I'll have to keep searching. Anyone know a place online I can watch it?
Yes, it’s been 12 years since your comment, but I thought that you might like to know that the Pluto tv app has a classic Doctor who channel that plays 24/7. You can’t choose the episodes that play, but you don’t need to pay to use the app if it’s available in your area…it beats needing to pay for a Brit box subscription…
I don't think the writing deteriorated in season 15. I think it's 19 where the quality of the scripts started to go downhill, and even then, it wasn't at its worst until the Colin Baker era started. As for the production quality, that only improved from season 18 on. Personally, I would rank my doctors as 11, 2, 4, 3,10, 5, 7, 9, 1, 8, 6 (so I suppose very similar to yours), but as for the episodes themselves, that would be 4, 3, 11, 9, 10, 2, 1, 5, 7, 6, 8.
"You're not after the truth. You want me to confess a story that you've already decided on. You have no interest in whatever the actual truth might be."
What's this quote from? It's so familiar...
Honestly, no idea. It was long enough ago that I don't even remember if I was quoting anything at all.
If a persons mind is made up and it is decided that you are guilty no amount of proof can alter thier beliefs.
Is this one true?!
Your thinking of a few good men.
Ok, I don't know how the Doctor did that, but I love that he is basically just playing with them. He so calm. Like "Ok, I'll go along with your little game." And that little smirk at the end when the machine broke😂😂😂 I love it!! 💙💙
OH YES!
It's like he's having his own fun while also showing how stupid his opponents are compared to him.
Two sides of the same coin.
you want the truth...ok ill tell you *machine blows up* looks like your machine couldn't take the truth
If James Bond would had a baby with a time lady, the result should be the 3rd Doctor
Matias Laguna ?
Well, James Bond is obviously a Time Lord, so...
@@breseemaxwell I didn't know that his father was Rassilon.
"I'm half human... on my father's side."
So Doctor how do you Time lords stay alive as a species?
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
+PMW3 ... that doesn't fit your paranoia.
TRIGGGGEERJTJEVFJEJEEEERRRDDDDDDD
"I'm going to ask you a series of yes or no questions, just answer them honestly. Do you understand?"
"Yes."
*BOOM*
Exactly why I came to the comment section :D It is confirmed, Homer Simpson is a Time Lord... or the Doctor is Homer Simpson?
That smirk at the end was a glimpse of the future - Tom Baker!
Everytime I see this:
"I said 'No Lies.'"
"I think he's telling the truth."
"If he was telling the truth, he would't have told us."
"Unless, of course, he knew you wouldn't believe in the truth even if he told it to you."
Nice
noice refference
All 5 Pertwee years and the first three T. Baker years remain the all-time finest WHO in my eyes.
As happy as I am that the program survives as the New Series, I will say that the New Series desperately needs a modern Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks. It was the Letts-Dicks 3rd Dr era that set the firm foundation for the Hinchcliffe-Holmes production team that followed.
That is exactly what the New Series needs.
You’d be crying with Chibnall then and his 3 lectures a day program.
Don't knock Troughton's era. Some great stuff there.
@@minicle426 Particularly The Tomb Of The Cybermen, The Enemy Of The World, The Web Of Fear, The Mind Robber and most especially The War Games.
Was it just my imagination or did Jon Pertwee have a Tom Baker smile at the very end?
Is it just my imagination, or did Tom Baker have a Jon Pertwee smile throughout his time as the doctor?
@@thetasigma412 My thoughts exactly.
@@thetasigma412 Well he has his hair now. :P
and he smiles.
*snaps fingers* i see what you did there! xD
DerfGaming I don't.
"There's just no telling some people, is there, my dear?"
In one story the Doctor described something similar when the machine broke down because it couldn't accept his description of going to meet a group of creatures that included among others a purple horse with green spots. It was the absolute truth - the creatures were delegates on their way to a galactic peace conference. Sigh - how unimaginative machines can be.
Hmm, seems the Doctor had a superior constitution in those days. With a smile he could short circuit their torture/mind probe devices.
Like A Boss
This is the fighting doctor.
+stramayne Which mean the 12th doctor can break a lie detector. He actually did once and it is at the bank.
It was the nature of the device.
Most lie detectors only go to 10. Theirs went all the way to 12. It's really useful if you need that extra little push.
Well you can use a lie detector on him, just don't plan on using it again.
"I want the truth!"
"You can't handle the truth!"
and neither can your machine
This is why pertwee is one of my favourite doctors
No! Not the mind probe!
borgduck Lol.
Yes. The mind probe!
Please tell me it's not inserted rectally.
@@davincent98 OH GOD THE IMAGERY WITH THAT SENTENCE ON A JON PERTWEE CLIP IS IT SOMETHING I WANNA SEE
Exception to Rule 1: a chance to break a lie detector.
Rule 1 is a Moffat thing.
Is it jusr me or is Three forever getting tied up with massive satellite dishes stuck to his head?
It's his fetish
As is 11's custard
Ah, Pertwee, so calm and cool and collected. Oh machine and idiot. so temperamental.
Smile when you say that, my dear Third Doctor!
i Love it when the Doctor uses the Truth to Overload the Circuitry! XD
Doctor # 3, Jon Pertwee, rates so close to Tom Baker as the best Doctor, that he is barely in 2nd place. The Pertwee era of DW is very, very good.
All the Classic Who Doctor Who's are great. All the New Who Doctor Who's are awful.
"You don't want the truth. You want to hear the story you want to hear from me."
Frontier in Space is a great adventure. Loved the Ogrons and Draconians. The Daleks put in an appearance too.
Never stick a child’s Roulette wheel toy on you’re forehead.
I loved the interogation scene in War Games. A case of troughton acting it out by simply NOT acting. Being totally unreesponsive and calm, much to the chagrion of the interogator.. and the amusement of The Master (before anyone says anything.. I'm a heretic.. )
As the Third Doctor said to BOSS in Green Death...If the next thing I say is true, but the last thing I said was a lie, would you believe me?
When he smiles it looks like he was lying and wanted the machine to break hehe man, I haven't seen DW in years!!
I agree wholeheartedly. The Jon Pertwee and early Tom Baker years (through Phillip Hinchcliffe) represent the series in its prime.
I fully agree with you
The Doctors of my childhood. Damn I so grew up at the right time.
"WHAT?!?! No, not the mind probe!"
Pertwee's still my favorite. :o) I love his era.
Turn it up to 12!
General Williams: Now we're gonna run a few tests. This is a simple lie detector. I'll ask you a few yes or no questions and you just answer truthfully. Do you understand?
Homer: Yes.
*BOOM*
but he does tell the truth, but overloads all lie detectors
Or at least never use part of a toy roulette wheel to make a lie detector! It's taking a bit of a gamble! 🤣
That is a funny comment!
r.i.p jon pertwee
(1970-74)
??????????? He was not 4 years old when he died in 1974
Wow, this machine goes up to 12! Take that, Spinal Tap.
LOOK AT THE BLOODY SCREEN! YOU CAN SEE THE OGRONS!!!! Proof is there and hes not even looking! LOL
"Tell us the truth!"
"Maybe he's been brainwashed? He think he IS telling us the truth."
"Then we'll have to break through his conditioning." *clears throat* "... Tell us the truth!"
How can you not believe a lie detector? LOL!
This kind of thing happened again later on in the 7th Doctor's first story, "Time & The Rani". That was funny, too.
LOL, typical Doctor grin at the end. XD
My favorite era in DW is actually the original Sarah Jane era, in Seasons 11-14, and that covers 18 stories of both Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker.
I actually like all the actors who have been "the Doctor" but dislike some of the eras with deteriorating writing and production in Seasons 15-26.
My view of the best-to-worst Dr eras goes 3,4,2,1,11,10,5,7,9,8,6. No other production team has yet equaled the continuous improving 5-year-run of the Letts-Dicks-Pertwee team.
ooohhh that SMILE.....
.....and it ends with the Doctor's trademark mad grin. Lovely.
That’s coming out of his salary
@6LordMortus9 Nope, not a word of a lie. In another scene (I don't know if it's the same story) this Doctor mentioned a similar situation in which he mentioned seeing among other weird creatures, a purple horse with green spots (IIRC). They just happened to be delegates on their way to an intergalactic peace conference.
It was a mind prob not a lie detector bbc
@steve gale if you watch the screen in the background you can watch the doctor's memories. A mind probe probes the mind searching for information a lie detector states whether or not something is true. I can get more tecnical if you like.
And depending on the incarnation, the subject matter and who he's lying to is very very good at it.
Eleven, to Amy, about what he's been up to? Horrible. And I don't think any of his incarnations could lie to the Brigadier.
Not so much a lie detector as a paper plate spray-painted silver.
This one out on DVD end of the year....
For me, my favorite Doctor is a tie. A tie between 5, 3, 2, 4, 11, 9, 10, 1, 7, 8, and 6
You should include #12. Capaldi was good & he had some superior episodes (& to a few duds as well).
Poor old Colin. He always comes last
But it's fun when the truth blows up the machine.
the truth hurts
3rd is my favourite from the classic series.
Personally, I my favourites are Smith and Troughton, but I still absolutely love 3 and 4.
Turn it up to twelve!
Martin Wood no sir. All 13
What about Jodie???
Yo! Is that a cough drop on a mini plate?
LoL! Toy roulette wheel sprayed silver! 😁
I think this story is a reason, amongst many, why I've just brought the season 8 Bluray Collection. 👍
Time Lords are amazing!
@hypersam123 You should. Keep in mind though that it's only part one of a much longer story - Frontier in Space ties directly into the next 'episode.'
On a sadder note, those two serials were Roger (The Master) Delgado's last story.
@HTprods Sweet thanks....I'm excited now.
break the doctor? lol good luck with that
Some episodes are on RUclips, There's a goodly amount on Netflix too.
Increase to 12...ha that's funny! Yeah 12 bodies of the doctor.
Not any more.
nor at the time this episode was originally aired
Obviously they took a cue from Spinal Tap, but went beyond 11. :)
ClarkeMarek - indeed. :)
23 regens now
best Doctor
awesome nick!
You're thinking of the 1st Dr's interrogation at the hands of the Moroks in "The Space Museum". Gov.Lobos puts him in a spcl"Interrogation chair"that shows them his thoughts. Then the Dr. begins playing w-their heads by imagining silly things like a Victorian Bike when they ask him how he got there, A flock of Sea Birds which he calls "Friends of mine" &then him wearing amusing stripey victorian Swimming attire, when Lobos insists "you're not aquatic!" to which the Dr.says"Oh I'm not am I? hehe"
surely it only goes up to 11...
Not in this case, of course.
For me, after HORROR OF FANG ROCK, there is a slow but perceptible trend down. The production after Season 18 may have improved, due to better equipment, but the creativity went down. Example, compare the superb lighting of MASQUE OF MADRAGORA or GENESIS OF THE DALEKS to the overly lit eras of Drs 5,6,&7.
Considering only the best stories, I would almost follow your listing (4,3,11,10,9, 2,1,5,7,6,8.).
Considering consistent overall quality of entire Dr era, its (3,4,11,10,9,2,1,5,7,6,8)
that looks like the radar bit from the old USS enterprise
seriously, those ppl never do learn do they, when people say they don't know most of the time they actually don't know
LOL the Doctor broke it!!!
British dentistry at its best.
i think it was called the mind probe
I guest two hearts are better than one
Bit of a weird doctor that loves wearing tea pot lids on his forehead for fun.
Actually...in "The Doctor's Wife," she mentions it, and says that the Doctor told her what happened and why he had to do what he did. They didn't really show the scene where she finds out or what her reaction was, but yeah, she knew.
Yes that was a great Lie Detector scene too. :o) Funny stuff
Shouldn't that lie detector be making four beeps? ;)
Who are the outher draconians on earth?I don't know
Is this the same lie-detector technology used in the Space Museum?
@Cole1494 The doctor survived
Boy Eleven would be TERRIBLE on this
Ah, those were the days. when the special effects department of the BBC thought putting plastic a plastic plate and bottle top on your forehead would thwart the doctor.....lol!
No not the mind probe.
The doctor break another truth detector. This one is a living thing. (New Whovian I'll let you answer)
Yep.
Do Time Lords have some kind of resistance to mind probing? 🤔
There is.....no......sanctuary. Sorry I had to.
no it goes to 12 and dont call me shirly
Man, this makes me wish I could find the original Doctor Who series.... sadly Its no where near me. I'll have to keep searching. Anyone know a place online I can watch it?
Yes, it’s been 12 years since your comment, but I thought that you might like to know that the Pluto tv app has a classic Doctor who channel that plays 24/7.
You can’t choose the episodes that play, but you don’t need to pay to use the app if it’s available in your area…it beats needing to pay for a Brit box subscription…
1919-1996*
the good doctor and chuck norris got in a fight, long story short... gallifrey and the daleks fell.
@themalloys Can you make an ashtray with a barley sugar in the centre of it go up to 11?
The truth you cant handle the truth!!!!
I don't think the writing deteriorated in season 15. I think it's 19 where the quality of the scripts started to go downhill, and even then, it wasn't at its worst until the Colin Baker era started. As for the production quality, that only improved from season 18 on.
Personally, I would rank my doctors as 11, 2, 4, 3,10, 5, 7, 9, 1, 8, 6 (so I suppose very similar to yours), but as for the episodes themselves, that would be 4, 3, 11, 9, 10, 2, 1, 5, 7, 6, 8.