Honestly, Uni-T are making great strides into the Rigol, Keysight etc space. Still a ways to go, but they are certainly moving in the right direction. Good on them!.......we will all benefit!
Couldn't agree more Ian. I recently needed a better, remote controllable bench supply and bought a Uni-T UDP3305S-E three channel supply. It's great! Very pleased with the user interface and the low noise output. Well made inside as well. All for significantly less than a used Agilent supply. Keep it up Uni-T! More lab grade equipment for sensible money please! When is the 7.5 digit bench multimeter coming? 😃
Hey, thanks a ton for featuring the Uni-T 500MHz 4CH ARB Signal Generator in your video! It’s really cool to see our gear being used by someone who knows their stuff. I hope it serves you well, and I’m excited to see how it fits into your work. If you’ve got any feedback or just want to share your thoughts, I’m all ears. Thanks again for the awesome unboxing video-really enjoyed it!
I admit not a trendy industrial look but looks very clear & easy to use for educational use. Get kit in education as they will be the next generation engineers. I bought my first scope as a Hameg scope as in my secondary school, college & Uni.
Regarding the industrial design, the button grouping could pop a bit better with colors that give it more of a depth of field so that navigating them looks less bland.
You can really see the stark difference between the buttons and the screen. The software looks more modern and up to date, but the buttons still look like the old DS1052E days. ;)
Even if just For-Teh-Lulz, try hooking a keyboard/mouse up to the USB port. I'm quite sure it's an embedded system, possibly Linux based, and if so, it will probably accept normal PC peripherals. This could save your ass if your touchscreen stops being touchy-feely. I tried looking up some AWG from Wavetek... nada. Goes to 50MHz and that's that. R&S? Even less. It looks like a cool piece of kit, and I wouldn't be too harsh on the exterior design. With competition from Siglent, Rigol, Keysight, Tek, R&S and whatnot, it's not that easy to make something that looks real deal pro (which I argue is pretty subjective in this case) and doesn't infringe on anyone else's design patents. If I were Uni-T, I'd include more of their characteristic red and anthracite theming, but they don't use that on bench DMMs or PSUs either. 100k on UART? Easy peasy, lemon squeezy! You know that 115200bps is very mainstream, right? 500MHz, impressive indeed! I guess it can't pull it off simultaneously on more than one channel. Some timeslot sheaningans may be going on there.
As for j documented keyboard support (well it does come with one type of keyboard from the factory!) my Yamaha Motif XS7 runs linux and you can indeed hook a keyboard up to the memory USB port and it will work, can sometimes crash it though.
It's full bandwidth on channels 1 and 2. Channels 3 and 4 are "bonus" channels. To make all four channels full spec would have pushed the price up considerably. Our new, new products will have a much more industrial look to them. Be on the lookout.
Thank you Dave. We appreciate the impromptu review, warts and all. The feedback from you and all of our users is very important to us. We are striving to make world-class test instruments, here at Uni-Trend. We love to hear what we're doing right, but when we miss, we listen and we learn and we improve. For the record, we don't know of any other manufacturer doing a 4Ch Arb like this, either. To keep price tag reasonable, we did decide to not make all 4 channels full bandwidth. Channels 1 and 2 are full spec channels, as you would expect. Based on feedback, that might be changed in the next version. Consider having two extra channels at ~200MHz as a bonus. When you look at what others charge for a 2Ch 500MHz function generator with similar specifications, we feel we are giving tremendous value. We are looking forward to having you do a full review on our UTG9504T (which is also available as 350MHz and 600MHz for channels 1 and 2). Thank you to all the viewers for your comments. We are very excited about what's coming.
Easy to fix the front panel, change colour of the plastic to a darker grey, plus make sure you Pantone match the port colours to the screen on a reference unit. Just need to do a better job on the UI colour, set up a better contrast colour to show the current cursor position, and make that fade out a little smoother, or widen to have only at the end 20 pixels of each window instead. Would also suggest having 2 USB ports on the front, or another 2 on the rear, so you can have storage there, and a separate pointing device, and a separate HDMI output on the rear as well, so you can use a larger screen for demo use, or teaching, and have finer control.
The interface looks simpler and minimalistic to me than the Rohde & Schwarz behind it. Is having a simple and intuitive interface not a end goal? Although I will give you that the colours and fonts of the interface could have been better.
Channels 1 & 2 are higher frequency than channels 3 & 4 (Datasheet page 6) and in the User Manual they list the max frequency for every waveform (page 31-32). Probably they are using different DACs for ch1/2 and ch3/4, it'll be an interesting teardown!
Yeah, it doesn't scream high end - especially with spelling mistakes and such ("peroid"? in the counter - and twice). Also, DACs are rated in updates/sec, not samples a sec, so it should be 2.5GU/sec, as in the output of the DAC can be updated 2.5 billion times a second.
Probably opened by DHL on behalf of customs, from the sealing tape used, which is DHL tape, so they opened it to check it was what was declared, so they could put the correct customs tariff on it.
Dave, your channels 3 and 4 might be on square wave? What rise time would you expect to see a reasonable square wave? That could be the reason for this "limitation"....
No, it was a design choice. We didn't want to make a $10k function generator (yet). If there's enough demand for a 4 channel sig gen with full bandwidth, we'd consider making one.
I bought a really nice 4 channel scope from UNI-T years ago that has a 16 data input which was pretty good albeit the screen was too small. If this is Aussie dollars it makes more sense but seems much too expensive if not.
@@UNITrendUS I did check but I bought a Siglent scope to replace it. I still have the other one which still works (except half of the top line of the display annoyingly). I have two Tektronix analog scopes as well which I like for valve amplifiers. If you want an idea how’s about a spectrum analyser and include going down to audio frequencies. I had to buy an old HP model and repair it to get that option
They are, but there are differences. A waveform generator would traditionally only produce your basic shapes. Especially in the days of analog. When you add modulation, PRBS, Digital protocols, etc., you've now got a signal generator. It's producing much more than just a waveform. Arbs, waveform generators, function generators, signal generators. They are used interchangeably, though not always accurately.
interstig device, teardown would be great, the design looks like the common rigol etc designs for the low cost indeed, but I wont care if the functions are great - nice the i2c spi generating features for usart test the max as 100k is not very high, could be 1 Mhz the comma also irritating at the wrong decimal place if dot is the komma ...
It does look expensive. Not sure if it looks like a $6k piece of gear. Like a lot of scopes, I don't like the colour choices for the four channels. I typically find two that are too close in colour. Often it is a dark and light blue. In this case it is red and purple. What happened to using green for one of the channels?
(amateurish style) and that Knob OMG it looks taken from a 1960s radio, it is horrendous!. the number buttons looks cheap, compare it with the keyboard of the spectrum gen DSA815 with properly designed buttons. and what the hell is that "knight rider" style light effects on the channels during power up come on! haha
I have their 60 MHz dual channel arbitrary waveform generator and the UI is surprisingly similar to this one. That unit of course only cost a tiny fraction of what this one does so that's rather disappointing.
There's a case for consistency in a type of product. Because you've used our UTG962E, you would be able to pick up the other UTG models very easily. It's a balance between changing for change's sake and changing for true improvements. Because the UTG9000T does a lot more than then UTG900E, there are some basic similarities, but many differences, just by the virtue of features. Appreciate the feedback.
It looks like something less costly than Siglent / Rigol level... Some of the sub $200 USD Chinese gadgets even look more upscale.... It's OK... but does not look like what it cost...It looks about $1,200USD
Having 10 physical waveform buttons on the front panel is a waste of space. With a touch screen the waveforms should be available to select on the display, which would allow triangle snd sawtooth waveforms to be available for selection and favorite waveforms (including custom waveforms) to be available with a single click. It is a shame that Chinese manufacturers invest so little effort in UX design. Siglent seems to be the only exception with decent and consistent UX design. Similar to Chinese remote controls with 50 buttons of equal size in a grid pattern.
I wanted to response with a comment about Siglent, but see you updated your comment already 😊 One could also state that it is a shame American companies invest so much in marketing.
@@ssspotsss upfront company wide UX design guidelines and subsequent equipment specific UX design would cost very little (comparatively), and convey a higher quality/value.
@@UNITrendUS I know. It is a long process. It is just a shame investing a lot of capital developing a technically great product but missing out on spending a little on a consistent, professional UX. I spent 4 years living and working in the IT industry in China and it is largely a cultural thing focusing a lot on specifications and functionality but largely ignoring usability and design, even though it is highly valued by the end users.
for gen's am only interested with fundamentals, feq , phase noise ,distorsion over the range , accuracy sweep modes minimum power , all else is bullshit
Originally released to Patrons back in June 2024, it's literally just an unedited unboxing video.
So 6k or the arb, what's the scope worth Dave?
You broke the rules Dave, you turned it on and didn't take it apaaart!
I assume a teardown vid is in the pipeline... Right Dave?
Apaaaht
Yes, he will be tearing it down, at some point
Honestly, Uni-T are making great strides into the Rigol, Keysight etc space. Still a ways to go, but they are certainly moving in the right direction. Good on them!.......we will all benefit!
Thank you. Be on the lookout. We have a very, very full pipeline of new products to release in North America and Europe over the next few months.
@@UNITrendUS Thanks, say hi to Thomas (Uni-T EU) for me...🙂
@@UNITrendUS keep me in mind too please, I review test gear on my channel and although I am based in NZ most of my audience is from the USA and EU
Couldn't agree more Ian. I recently needed a better, remote controllable bench supply and bought a Uni-T UDP3305S-E three channel supply. It's great! Very pleased with the user interface and the low noise output. Well made inside as well.
All for significantly less than a used Agilent supply.
Keep it up Uni-T! More lab grade equipment for sensible money please! When is the 7.5 digit bench multimeter coming?
😃
Thank you, Ian. We have some exciting new products coming out that I think will really amaze folks. Stay tuned!
Hey, thanks a ton for featuring the Uni-T 500MHz 4CH ARB Signal Generator in your video! It’s really cool to see our gear being used by someone who knows their stuff. I hope it serves you well, and I’m excited to see how it fits into your work. If you’ve got any feedback or just want to share your thoughts, I’m all ears. Thanks again for the awesome unboxing video-really enjoyed it!
I love that Dave had to clear the corner of the desk to make some space, you can see the right side of the shot stuff piled up
Been like this for years....
Happens to all of us 🤣
I admit not a trendy industrial look but looks very clear & easy to use for educational use. Get kit in education as they will be the next generation engineers.
I bought my first scope as a Hameg scope as in my secondary school, college & Uni.
At this price and industry leading performance, not many would be getting it for education I suspect.
@@EEVblog2 This would suitable be for Graduate-level/Capstone labs. Not for an undergraduate lab.
Loved the “countinues” wave in the help for CW…
We will make sure to go through the GUI and fix. Thank you.
Regarding the industrial design, the button grouping could pop a bit better with colors that give it more of a depth of field so that navigating them looks less bland.
You can really see the stark difference between the buttons and the screen. The software looks more modern and up to date, but the buttons still look like the old DS1052E days. ;)
Appreciate the feedback
Even if just For-Teh-Lulz, try hooking a keyboard/mouse up to the USB port. I'm quite sure it's an embedded system, possibly Linux based, and if so, it will probably accept normal PC peripherals. This could save your ass if your touchscreen stops being touchy-feely.
I tried looking up some AWG from Wavetek... nada. Goes to 50MHz and that's that. R&S? Even less.
It looks like a cool piece of kit, and I wouldn't be too harsh on the exterior design. With competition from Siglent, Rigol, Keysight, Tek, R&S and whatnot, it's not that easy to make something that looks real deal pro (which I argue is pretty subjective in this case) and doesn't infringe on anyone else's design patents. If I were Uni-T, I'd include more of their characteristic red and anthracite theming, but they don't use that on bench DMMs or PSUs either.
100k on UART? Easy peasy, lemon squeezy! You know that 115200bps is very mainstream, right?
500MHz, impressive indeed! I guess it can't pull it off simultaneously on more than one channel. Some timeslot sheaningans may be going on there.
As for j documented keyboard support (well it does come with one type of keyboard from the factory!) my Yamaha Motif XS7 runs linux and you can indeed hook a keyboard up to the memory USB port and it will work, can sometimes crash it though.
It's full bandwidth on channels 1 and 2. Channels 3 and 4 are "bonus" channels. To make all four channels full spec would have pushed the price up considerably. Our new, new products will have a much more industrial look to them. Be on the lookout.
The text alignment on the label below the screen hurts my brain, plus the multiple typos. But hoping to see a teardown!
That's a good catch. Thank you
Thank you Dave. We appreciate the impromptu review, warts and all. The feedback from you and all of our users is very important to us. We are striving to make world-class test instruments, here at Uni-Trend. We love to hear what we're doing right, but when we miss, we listen and we learn and we improve.
For the record, we don't know of any other manufacturer doing a 4Ch Arb like this, either. To keep price tag reasonable, we did decide to not make all 4 channels full bandwidth. Channels 1 and 2 are full spec channels, as you would expect. Based on feedback, that might be changed in the next version. Consider having two extra channels at ~200MHz as a bonus. When you look at what others charge for a 2Ch 500MHz function generator with similar specifications, we feel we are giving tremendous value.
We are looking forward to having you do a full review on our UTG9504T (which is also available as 350MHz and 600MHz for channels 1 and 2).
Thank you to all the viewers for your comments. We are very excited about what's coming.
Easy to fix the front panel, change colour of the plastic to a darker grey, plus make sure you Pantone match the port colours to the screen on a reference unit. Just need to do a better job on the UI colour, set up a better contrast colour to show the current cursor position, and make that fade out a little smoother, or widen to have only at the end 20 pixels of each window instead. Would also suggest having 2 USB ports on the front, or another 2 on the rear, so you can have storage there, and a separate pointing device, and a separate HDMI output on the rear as well, so you can use a larger screen for demo use, or teaching, and have finer control.
Thank you for the feedback. Those are great suggestions
Noticed a typo in the Counter mode. 'Peroid'
Physical Interface looks clean and simple to me, not cheap per se.
Thank you for your feedback. We appreciate it.
19:23 "Period" is misspelled
Peroid.
Yes, sadly, the developers can't run Grammarly when building the GUI
The interface looks simpler and minimalistic to me than the Rohde & Schwarz behind it. Is having a simple and intuitive interface not a end goal? Although I will give you that the colours and fonts of the interface could have been better.
Channels 1 & 2 are higher frequency than channels 3 & 4 (Datasheet page 6) and in the User Manual they list the max frequency for every waveform (page 31-32). Probably they are using different DACs for ch1/2 and ch3/4, it'll be an interesting teardown!
All will be revealed when Dave gets around to making his teardown video.
I have spotted 5 spelling mistakes on the display.... so far 😂
CW(Continue)
We are working on fixing the errors in a firmware update
Windowed ARB might be for glitch simulation. I would think you have a waveform and insert a second waveform in a certain section to see how it reacts.
At least it doesn't have backwards italics like that rigol electronic load!
Yeah, it doesn't scream high end - especially with spelling mistakes and such ("peroid"? in the counter - and twice). Also, DACs are rated in updates/sec, not samples a sec, so it should be 2.5GU/sec, as in the output of the DAC can be updated 2.5 billion times a second.
Thanks for that feedback. As far as we've seen, all function generators use Sa/s, not U/s. If you know of any, please reply.
DACs use GSps, quick google would have verified that.
UI/UX of this UNI-T device is miles ahead of the latest keysight scope's UI/UX.
Probably opened by DHL on behalf of customs, from the sealing tape used, which is DHL tape, so they opened it to check it was what was declared, so they could put the correct customs tariff on it.
I've never been charged customs tarrifs. Is this a European thing?
We may have opened it before sending it to Dave. It was one of the first ones we'd received.
Red Cyan Yellow Magenta? Did they run out of dissimilar colours?
Dave, your channels 3 and 4 might be on square wave? What rise time would you expect to see a reasonable square wave? That could be the reason for this "limitation"....
No, it was a design choice. We didn't want to make a $10k function generator (yet). If there's enough demand for a 4 channel sig gen with full bandwidth, we'd consider making one.
A cro for Kerry and a generator for Dave. All in a Sunday.
I bought a really nice 4 channel scope from UNI-T years ago that has a 16 data input which was pretty good albeit the screen was too small. If this is Aussie dollars it makes more sense but seems much too expensive if not.
Our new scopes (forthcoming in the next few months) will have 10.1" screens, or larger.
@@UNITrendUS I did check but I bought a Siglent scope to replace it. I still have the other one which still works (except half of the top line of the display annoyingly). I have two Tektronix analog scopes as well which I like for valve amplifiers. If you want an idea how’s about a spectrum analyser and include going down to audio frequencies. I had to buy an old HP model and repair it to get that option
Those button leds looks so annoying as they dont even light the whole text
Thank you for the feedback
Choosing the wrong channel on both devices. A trap for young player.😂
Hey Dave, another good video, thanks.
Is waveform and signal generator used interchangeably? Seems to be but find others saying there is a difference between the two.
They are, but there are differences. A waveform generator would traditionally only produce your basic shapes. Especially in the days of analog. When you add modulation, PRBS, Digital protocols, etc., you've now got a signal generator. It's producing much more than just a waveform. Arbs, waveform generators, function generators, signal generators. They are used interchangeably, though not always accurately.
@@UNITrendUS Thanks
CW (Continue) gives me flashbacks to arcade game over screens 😂
"It doesn't like the noise that's all ! " I bet Rohde & Schwarz would say otherwise.
interstig device, teardown would be great, the design looks like the common rigol etc designs for the low cost indeed, but I wont care if the functions are great - nice the i2c spi generating features for usart test the max as 100k is not very high, could be 1 Mhz the comma also irritating at the wrong decimal place if dot is the komma ...
You forgot to mail a T shirt to Project Farm so you missed out.
Yes, 16bit, but only on ch. 3 & 4. Others are 14bit.
Our UTG9604T (600MHz) is 16 bit on all four channels.
@@UNITrendUS Cool, but it's also like $10,000+. You should have sent that one to Dave!
@@uni-byte Bandwidth vs resolution tradeoff. Reasonable choice IMHO to keep cost down.
Dave RTFM maybe before showing off features next time.... LOL
Seeing how far you can go without RTFMing is a great test.
It does look expensive. Not sure if it looks like a $6k piece of gear. Like a lot of scopes, I don't like the colour choices for the four channels. I typically find two that are too close in colour. Often it is a dark and light blue. In this case it is red and purple. What happened to using green for one of the channels?
Great feedback. Thank you.
@12:40 Have I switched on a noise mode? Yes you did.. at @10:14 "NoiseSum"
(amateurish style) and that Knob OMG it looks taken from a 1960s radio, it is horrendous!.
the number buttons looks cheap, compare it with the keyboard of the spectrum gen DSA815 with properly designed buttons.
and what the hell is that "knight rider" style light effects on the channels during power up come on! haha
Right to jail. Right away. 👉
At least it doesn't say "but Michael" when you try to turn it off.
5:44 You are absolutely right.
I have their 60 MHz dual channel arbitrary waveform generator and the UI is surprisingly similar to this one. That unit of course only cost a tiny fraction of what this one does so that's rather disappointing.
There's a case for consistency in a type of product. Because you've used our UTG962E, you would be able to pick up the other UTG models very easily. It's a balance between changing for change's sake and changing for true improvements. Because the UTG9000T does a lot more than then UTG900E, there are some basic similarities, but many differences, just by the virtue of features. Appreciate the feedback.
I wouldn't say it looks low end, but it looks outdated. It looks like it was designed in the late 90s, early 2000s in the era of the tektronix etc.
Someone is very dyslexic over at UNI-T and probably Dave too. Anoyone notice the "peroid" typo all over ?
I doubt anoyone notiuced it
@@Machine1136 I'll have to write up my whole comment proofreading team. 🤣
No, no one noticed a thing. LOL
@@Machine1136 touché
Dave, this is not an “Other bloody coach feet!”?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It looks like something less costly than Siglent / Rigol level... Some of the sub $200 USD Chinese gadgets even look more upscale.... It's OK... but does not look like what it cost...It looks about $1,200USD
Will you debunk RooBadge please?
I forgot to mention it is some shady collaboration of Melbourne university and Volkswagen.
holy crap, $5,700.00 on tequipment. Yet another tool I wish I could afford.
If you need 500MHz, you'll find a way ;-) Compared to others, we're much less expensive.
I might have been expecting an oscilloscope, but the video title kind of gave the game away...
2:25 Not what we're expecting...says the video title.
Having 10 physical waveform buttons on the front panel is a waste of space. With a touch screen the waveforms should be available to select on the display, which would allow triangle snd sawtooth waveforms to be available for selection and favorite waveforms (including custom waveforms) to be available with a single click.
It is a shame that Chinese manufacturers invest so little effort in UX design. Siglent seems to be the only exception with decent and consistent UX design.
Similar to Chinese remote controls with 50 buttons of equal size in a grid pattern.
I wanted to response with a comment about Siglent, but see you updated your comment already 😊 One could also state that it is a shame American companies invest so much in marketing.
@@ssspotsss upfront company wide UX design guidelines and subsequent equipment specific UX design would cost very little (comparatively), and convey a higher quality/value.
Give us time. Keep in mind what our competitors looked like when they first came to market. We'll get there. Feedback like this is what we need.
@@UNITrendUS I know. It is a long process. It is just a shame investing a lot of capital developing a technically great product but missing out on spending a little on a consistent, professional UX.
I spent 4 years living and working in the IT industry in China and it is largely a cultural thing focusing a lot on specifications and functionality but largely ignoring usability and design, even though it is highly valued by the end users.
Do the full video
Don't turn it on take it afart please.
Fully agree on the design...its looks cheap
Appreciate the feedback. We'll let the designers know.
It looks like a microwave oven.
Better than an "EZ Bake" though
Bashing the front panel design? Hello lawsuit 😂
Why can't the whole thing be touch screen instead of this hybrid design?
Good question. Tradition? Does anyone make a full touch only instrument? Other than something USB-based that uses an iPad for a display.
Jeez, amateur half-hour! Why even post review videos anymore? To have companies stop sending you equipment for review I assume?
They did spell “period” incorrectly. Peroid. Nope! Otherwise this looks impressive.
it's more of a toy than a serious sig-gen, for $6K ?
I wouldn't give 6K "American" bucks for this device!
Can I ask why? What other function generator comes close in specifications for the money?
Not a 6000 fiat VIBE.
The comma's and points of the frequencies are in the wrong place - even for European's.
Thanks for the feedback
@@Mr1Spring yes, using spaces to separate groups of 3 digits to the right of the decimal point is much more readable
@@mortenhattesen Yes, that is a good suggestion.
for gen's am only interested with fundamentals, feq , phase noise ,distorsion over the range , accuracy sweep modes minimum power , all else is bullshit
We make those types of minimalistic models, too
Why not just hit the bloody warb button and see what it dose lol.
dumbarse dave video imagine bumbling around with $5600 units