Thanks for making this great video. RCF is indeed pinnacle of the F brand and also Lexus/Toyota high performance. Highly underrated, is a very accurate term. I have always had a great time whenever I got to drive an RCF. It does everything so well. The chassis and suspension are so well dialed in. When Lexus made the 2UR for the RCF, I knew this was going to be a very special engine since it became a high-revving V8 as part of the redesign of the ISF 2UR. To me, it is like a much more modern, faster. torquier and superior version of the E92 M3 in a newer era. It is the best compliment I can give given E92 M3 is considered the best M3 by many.
Amazing video. RCF is the total beast. Looks brutal in the acceleration and hard turns, but still luxurious and practical enough to haul family and kids. As Randy Post himself said 'what a package'
What an amazing video. Really showed why the RCF 2nd gen 2UR is one of the best engines ever made. A masterpiece. RCF is an incredibly capable track oriented car and it is a shame that there is so much misinformation exists out there. Partly, like your said being undertired is to blame, but shame that more facts based evidence should exist like your video where it is irrefutable as to how good this car is in reality and that there is a lot of bias against it. You simply cannot deny facts no matter how much negative bias that exists.
@@KLRGT500KR Thanks very much. Totally agree. That is why I felt the need to make this video to point out the disparity between what my experiences were and what some people spending 30 minutes with the car were saying
Absolutely love it. Keep them coming. The sound and experience seem incredible. Must be tons of fun. The media always talks about the weight, but never how incredibly capable and fun the RCF is. I am sure if people did not know that it weighs 3900 lbs, no one would care. It feels so agile and nimble at the limit for its weight.
Coming from a guy who has spun out a few cars, it is hard to do with the RCF. Love the expert analysis! I never tracked mine but judging from my experience on several windy back roads at high speeds, this car is a weapon.
@@slappagon Thanks bro. To be honest, I am not an expert at all. I just try to understand and learn what I am doing in order to really seek the proper way to find the most efficient way. I use my understanding of physics to apply to real life, for example. Whether it is inertia, centrifugal forces or centripetal forces, polar moments of inertia, weight transfers etc. I might talk about these principles in an upcoming video and how I use them to understand the car behavior. Appreciate the very positive feedback. Thank you.
Since your RCF has the TVD and Carbon Package, which also lowers your center of gravity, how much does handling differ from that of a base RCF? Does the TVD really make a huge difference in day to day driving? I feel like getting the TVD would only make sense if you actually track your car, which is like 5% of RCF owners. Is it really necessary to opt for the CF/TVD?
@@dafeldiog3401 Thanks. Much appreciated. The TVD and CF together do reduce CoG. I believe it is about 0.5 inch with just the TVD alone and probably another 0.5 inch because of the CF. They don't necessarily reduce net curb weight, but improve CoG and weight distribution closer to 50/50 by 1%. It is not an absolute must to have and they are very rare to find. In day to day, I love SLALOM mode at it makes the car really respond fast with little inputs at slow speeds making it feel extremely nimble at slow speeds. Also, little known fact is that the TVD RCF has slightly higher rear spring rates to promote oversteer. The base model RCF and the Track Edition both come with Torsen LSD. I have never driven an LSD RCF, but from what I have read and heard from the people who drove both, the LSD RCF requires more skills to get the front end to not wash out than the TVD RCF and the steering the TVD RCF is faster and more responsive. C&D did a back to back test with a TVD RCF and no CF and it was about 3% quicker than the LSD one with the same driver Eric Tingwall. One could argue driving skills and a better setup especially more aggressive tires are the equalizer for that. I would say, like I mentioned in the video, all three types of RCF suffer from ploughing tendencies, but how they deal with it, is different. The simplest solution to fix it, is what I mentioned. Get much better tires. It is a complaint for LSD RCF, TVD CF RCF and the TE RCF that the mechanical grip cannot keep up with the chassis and results in some ploughing tendencies especially when cranking the front wheels hard. Stiffer sidewall tires pretty much eliminated that issue for me. You can see in the video I have zero ploughing and the only difference is the tries because of how stiff the front end isi I have LCA bushings as well, but it primarily improved steering feel and eliminated toe-out behavior under hard braking. Hope that helps.
@@2ZZGE100 I honestly do feel like the TVD RCF is just doing most of the work for you, whereas the Torsen car relies more on the driver input, more so "I'm here if you need me but i'll only do as much as you rinse out of me" whether or not the Torsen is going to be faster is the bigger debate because it is like 80 pounds lighter if i'm not mistaken, combine that with the fact the TE uses a Torsen it makes you think you can improve performance over the TVD with the Torsen but it just requires more effort and skill.
@@hyphed4196 I can mess up in a TVD RCF as I did a couple of times and was able to save it by reacting and correcting in time. When I am driving the car, actually I am doing all of the throttle steering and sensing the traction myself. TVD is really making sure the rear end is follwing in real-time exactly what my steering angle and throttle input are telling it to do and not fighting back. Meaning, less action and reaction as a counter. I can oversteer the car very easily. The lower CoG and better weight distribution are two other tangible benefits. Porsche uses torque vectorizing in all of its GT cars. It is like the age old ABS vs non-ABS debate. At the end of the day, every pro racer would prefer ABS over no ABS or DCT vs manual. You have more input in the manual, but the DCT will go quicker all things being equal. The main advantage of TVD is that it simply can react much faster.. No one knows for sure why TE did not get the TVD. Lexus never gave a formal explanation so it is all speculation. We do know that TVD costs way more than the Torsen so it could be a factor. The GSF on the other hand, is a very long wheelbase car and it only got TVD because it could mask the wheelbase length so there is that. At the end of the day, it all comes down to preferences.
I love the exterior and engine. My main gripes are they are really expensive on the used market and interior design really doesn't flow/ is not coherent. It looks like a cheap car. I'm sure the quality and materials are fine. I think much more European people would buy one if it looked more premium inside.
Aesthetics (subjective) aside and the dated design, the materials, fit, finish, quality are absolutely top notch owning it for 7+ years. Everything feels and works like very high quality parts.
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Thanks for making this great video. RCF is indeed pinnacle of the F brand and also Lexus/Toyota high performance. Highly underrated, is a very accurate term. I have always had a great time whenever I got to drive an RCF. It does everything so well. The chassis and suspension are so well dialed in. When Lexus made the 2UR for the RCF, I knew this was going to be a very special engine since it became a high-revving V8 as part of the redesign of the ISF 2UR. To me, it is like a much more modern, faster. torquier and superior version of the E92 M3 in a newer era. It is the best compliment I can give given E92 M3 is considered the best M3 by many.
@@jamessheldon2410 Agreed. Thanks very much.
Amazing video. RCF is the total beast. Looks brutal in the acceleration and hard turns, but still luxurious and practical enough to haul family and kids. As Randy Post himself said 'what a package'
Couldn't agree more!
Could not agree more.
Coming from a guy thats doing a specific track series love this!! :)
@@RandenMontalvo Thanks bro. Looking forward to it and more on your TE
What an amazing video. Really showed why the RCF 2nd gen 2UR is one of the best engines ever made. A masterpiece. RCF is an incredibly capable track oriented car and it is a shame that there is so much misinformation exists out there. Partly, like your said being undertired is to blame, but shame that more facts based evidence should exist like your video where it is irrefutable as to how good this car is in reality and that there is a lot of bias against it. You simply cannot deny facts no matter how much negative bias that exists.
@@KLRGT500KR Thanks very much. Totally agree. That is why I felt the need to make this video to point out the disparity between what my experiences were and what some people spending 30 minutes with the car were saying
Yessir!!! Love it.
Thanks bro.
Absolutely love it. Keep them coming. The sound and experience seem incredible. Must be tons of fun. The media always talks about the weight, but never how incredibly capable and fun the RCF is. I am sure if people did not know that it weighs 3900 lbs, no one would care. It feels so agile and nimble at the limit for its weight.
Thanks! Will do!
Thanks. Will do.
Coming from a guy who has spun out a few cars, it is hard to do with the RCF. Love the expert analysis! I never tracked mine but judging from my experience on several windy back roads at high speeds, this car is a weapon.
@@slappagon Thanks bro. To be honest, I am not an expert at all. I just try to understand and learn what I am doing in order to really seek the proper way to find the most efficient way. I use my understanding of physics to apply to real life, for example. Whether it is inertia, centrifugal forces or centripetal forces, polar moments of inertia, weight transfers etc. I might talk about these principles in an upcoming video and how I use them to understand the car behavior. Appreciate the very positive feedback. Thank you.
Back on line! Nice, very nice and encouraging to see the RC F in action doing what it was built to do.
@@aerovaportrail1392 Thanks bro
More to follow in the next few weeks.
Nice RCF
Thank you. Lots more to come.
Since your RCF has the TVD and Carbon Package, which also lowers your center of gravity, how much does handling differ from that of a base RCF? Does the TVD really make a huge difference in day to day driving? I feel like getting the TVD would only make sense if you actually track your car, which is like 5% of RCF owners. Is it really necessary to opt for the CF/TVD?
@@dafeldiog3401 Thanks. Much appreciated. The TVD and CF together do reduce CoG. I believe it is about 0.5 inch with just the TVD alone and probably another 0.5 inch because of the CF. They don't necessarily reduce net curb weight, but improve CoG and weight distribution closer to 50/50 by 1%. It is not an absolute must to have and they are very rare to find. In day to day, I love SLALOM mode at it makes the car really respond fast with little inputs at slow speeds making it feel extremely nimble at slow speeds. Also, little known fact is that the TVD RCF has slightly higher rear spring rates to promote oversteer. The base model RCF and the Track Edition both come with Torsen LSD. I have never driven an LSD RCF, but from what I have read and heard from the people who drove both, the LSD RCF requires more skills to get the front end to not wash out than the TVD RCF and the steering the TVD RCF is faster and more responsive. C&D did a back to back test with a TVD RCF and no CF and it was about 3% quicker than the LSD one with the same driver Eric Tingwall. One could argue driving skills and a better setup especially more aggressive tires are the equalizer for that. I would say, like I mentioned in the video, all three types of RCF suffer from ploughing tendencies, but how they deal with it, is different. The simplest solution to fix it, is what I mentioned. Get much better tires. It is a complaint for LSD RCF, TVD CF RCF and the TE RCF that the mechanical grip cannot keep up with the chassis and results in some ploughing tendencies especially when cranking the front wheels hard. Stiffer sidewall tires pretty much eliminated that issue for me. You can see in the video I have zero ploughing and the only difference is the tries because of how stiff the front end isi I have LCA bushings as well, but it primarily improved steering feel and eliminated toe-out behavior under hard braking. Hope that helps.
@@dafeldiog3401 good question, I'd like to know this too
@@slappagonSee my response above. Posted already.
@@2ZZGE100 I honestly do feel like the TVD RCF is just doing most of the work for you, whereas the Torsen car relies more on the driver input, more so "I'm here if you need me but i'll only do as much as you rinse out of me" whether or not the Torsen is going to be faster is the bigger debate because it is like 80 pounds lighter if i'm not mistaken, combine that with the fact the TE uses a Torsen it makes you think you can improve performance over the TVD with the Torsen but it just requires more effort and skill.
@@hyphed4196 I can mess up in a TVD RCF as I did a couple of times and was able to save it by reacting and correcting in time. When I am driving the car, actually I am doing all of the throttle steering and sensing the traction myself. TVD is really making sure the rear end is follwing in real-time exactly what my steering angle and throttle input are telling it to do and not fighting back. Meaning, less action and reaction as a counter. I can oversteer the car very easily. The lower CoG and better weight distribution are two other tangible benefits. Porsche uses torque vectorizing in all of its GT cars. It is like the age old ABS vs non-ABS debate. At the end of the day, every pro racer would prefer ABS over no ABS or DCT vs manual. You have more input in the manual, but the DCT will go quicker all things being equal. The main advantage of TVD is that it simply can react much faster.. No one knows for sure why TE did not get the TVD. Lexus never gave a formal explanation so it is all speculation. We do know that TVD costs way more than the Torsen so it could be a factor. The GSF on the other hand, is a very long wheelbase car and it only got TVD because it could mask the wheelbase length so there is that. At the end of the day, it all comes down to preferences.
I love the exterior and engine. My main gripes are they are really expensive on the used market and interior design really doesn't flow/ is not coherent. It looks like a cheap car. I'm sure the quality and materials are fine. I think much more European people would buy one if it looked more premium inside.
Aesthetics (subjective) aside and the dated design, the materials, fit, finish, quality are absolutely top notch owning it for 7+ years. Everything feels and works like very high quality parts.