Non-Dual Teachings: Rupert Spira & Mooji Baba
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2024
- Rupert Spira & Mooji Baba answer profound questions about the non-dual path to spiritual awakening or enlightenment.
#rupertspira #mooji #nonduality #enlightenment #spiritualawakening
I have listened to Rupert's guests share their frustration in efforts to "find", to "experience" this whatever it is that is called "Enlightenment", this wonderfulness that Jesus of Nazareth called the "Kingdom of God" or the "Kingdom of Heaven". I understand perfectly because, for forty-five (45) years, I was in that boat! A couple of things which helped me... 1) One cannot "find" that which one seeks while continuing to think in the same way one has always thought. Jesus referred to it when He was quoted as saying, "Repent ye, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!", using the Greek word, "metanoia", which means "to be of another mind". Unfortunately, it got quoted as "repent" which simply takes on down yet another rabbit hole. 2) What must be changed, if "finding" is to occur, is one's perspective. One must think in a different way. 3) A significant movement in my way of thinking occurred when I stopped thinking of what religion calls "God" as a being, and started thinking of it as "Being, Itself" or, as Rupert says, "Consciousness". That which we seek is Our Self. This is why Rupert quotes the sufi, Ali ibn Abi Talib, when he said, "When you find yourself, you will know your Lord; when you find your Lord, you will know Yourself". 4) Stop "seeking" and start "already Realizing. "Seeking" is an activity in which one who has not found participates. One who has found spends no time "seeking". If you could bypass all the intermediate steps and move to your final objective, what you would Know is that "There is nothing but You". This is why escaping our righteously held conviction with and adherence to "duality" is critical. There are no "others", there isn't anything "else". "You are all there is!" Be that Realization Now, hold it, own it, be it, and your search is over. It isn't easy, but it is that simple.
I give all my appreciation for you and these mindful words you share❤ 5:56
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They have been talking about it for a very long time. And had they become awakened, we would never have heard of them. No one is awakened. What you have, just like all of the sages, teachers, gurus before them, are explainers of nothing for that is their claim. Nothing exists except the true self. The true self is not the mind/body they say. So what is doing the explaining is really the old self, itself. For the true self is transcendent and no longer available in this dream world. So, what this means is that all of this, us, 8 billion body/minds and the rest of impermanence is just making a lot of sounds and actions that really have no meaning at all. For there were never any true selves here from the start. Only dream characters.
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I feel you are trying to say something very important here but you left it hanging and left everybody yawning.
If you have to recommend specific steps people should take to be truly awakened what would you recommend in very simple language even for a dammy like me to understand?
Also do you have any examples of individuals either present or past that you think were truly awakened or can serve as an example for us.
Your guidance will be appreciated.
@@glynmwaka The comment is part serious and part sarcasm. And, your mistake is asking someone else to lead you to enlightenment. If you follow someone else, you merely become them. A parrot, regurgitating what they are teaching. The only path to what is properly called understanding or a realization of truth is the inward approach. This is a self examination and a journey in solitude, a maturation of the soul. I cannot write down the 64 year journey to this point. All I can say is, you have to do the work of turning the libido inwards away from the external world of imagination and desire. Impossible for the young, unavoidable for the old. Religion, philosophy, practices are all sources of what is needed to reach maturity. The error is believing that the answers are found in the external practices of these teachings. Your guide is within you. No one can lead you there. They can tell you where to look, and what to expect, but the journey inward has to happen. Once that journey is started in faith. Be ready, for things will begin to happen externally that will shake you to the core. You will know if you are on the right path if you suddenly find yourself in what is called, the dark night of the soul. You have to explore all of the teachings to get the subtle hints pointing to your goal. You really have to come to an understanding of what dying before you die really means. This is a terrifying prospect for the ego. Not exactly what most are expecting or actually looking for. Sorry, there are no quick fixes.
Jesus= Je Suis= I Am
I thought the same - jesus
Pure cringe
@@user-ge2oh8nj5h Only a knob head would use that word!
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The most honest, articulate and simple answer to enlightenment. Thank you ❤
Glad it was helpful!
C’est tellement évident mais votre façon d’amener votre interlocuteur est à fois simple et limpide dans son cheminement vers le JE-je auquel Ramana nous convie également
J’ai 80 ans mais devant l’inquiétude des années qui passaient autour de la 50 aine je me suis interrogée sur mon ressenti profond et j’ai réalisé qu’il n’a ait pas pris une ride et était toujours là le même
C’est ce que je partage avec mes petits-enfants qu’à d lis parlé t de la peur de la mort
A l’époque où j’enseignais le yoga dans une relaxation à travers le ressenti étant inspirée je me suis surprise à dire « revenir au cœur et restez dans le ressenti essentiel de vous -même qui n’a pas d’âge et existe de toute ÉTERNITÉ
Namaste❤❤❤
Glad you enjoyed it
Merci pour votre témoignage..j'ai 77 ans et depuis 25 ans toujours en chemin !@@brigittelemaire9779
Absolutely love it. Can feel her being uncomfi with his answer though. Not too long ago he would simply have made me feel bad about myself with that kind of answer. It's a very advanced answer. To me it's important not to confuse the shore (enlightenment) with the raft (mantras etc.). Pointing at the shore is not always useful if we cannot offer others and ourselves a raft to get there. Not here to judge him though. I'm saying this to myself as much as to him. Very grateful for both teachers in this video
zen master Seung Shah "if you can break the wall of yourself you will become infinite in time and space". Thank you for this.
You're welcome
In some metaphoric way, yes. But you actually realized, there is no time and space. And you are not the Body; you are infinit spirit, who dreams to be a human, until you wake up (break the wall of yourself). You are the true Self as Got created you.
Before enlightenment chopping wood and carrying water, after enlightenment chopping wood and carrying water…….I Am
That was so original... thanks for sharing
Before enlightenment, you are chopping wood and carrying water. After enlightenment, there is just chopping wood and carrying water…without a “you” doing it.
@@justmort13 right! And that's why you feel the need to watch these videos and comment too, right? Because you don't exist, you have dropped the 'me'?
Oh Jesus! Things the human mind can do to itself.
Enlightenment is another useless concept. Everything and nothing is simply now.NOW NOW NOW. In front, behind, around , and in and out.
what even many teachers don´t mention is the fact that we are talking about a natural process.
something that cannot be forced.
it seems to happen gradually but can take a forceful phase all by its own.
like giving birth to a child.
this "process" can be facilitated by certain exercises and by an accomplished teacher but necessarily.
it´s just that your personal "addictive" habits drop away, and what remains is you without your mask.
I’m so grateful for confirmation that I’m actually on a path, as opposed to stumbling around blind. Very lucid description.
It's like opening a window in a dark room, and the light comes into the room... and there's no room any more, but light. ❤
wonderfully described. x
Excellent Delivery Mooji!!💕💕
Sehr wertvoll💙🙏💙Danke.
Self is always present, doesnt change, always content and lacks nothing-thats enlightened. Enlightenment is not an experience, its ones nature
YES!
Very beautiful teachings,thank you for both❤😊
Both explained so well bravo❤❤
A great and clarifying interview! Thank you! 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Beautiful what a Teacher, with a capital T 🙏🏻❤
There is nothing wrong with mantras, yoga, people connecting, there is nothing wrong with any path which brings to realization of your essence.
So true
Rupert's words are so clear! Enjoyed listening. Thanks for sharing 🙏❤️
They are!
Thank you, from Somers Point NJ
Welcome!
wow lady at begin 4.30 long question and incredible patience by Spira is itself meditation.
So true. I love his skillful patience.
Thank tou so much for sharing. I understand her so good. I am seeking for the same.. and i suffer.. i lose myself... Thanks Robert to explain and sharing you. I am grateful🙏❤
Suffering and any kind of Insufficiency... don't happened to you. It is your decision; it appears in your mind. So, to be very honest; you chose this instead of happiness, that your are. It is very important to find out and to understand, why we chose this way... It is actually insane; but we do it again and again...
We are not slaves or victims..., we are free to chose... and we are, what we chose.
So simple is it.
What Mooji Baba just said is more than powerful and relevant; it is critical to the possibility of one finding Their Self. There were times when it was the man, Jesus, speaking; there were times when Consciousness (with a capital "C"), what Jesus and Mooji Baba refer to as the "I AM", what religion calls "God", spoke using Jesus voice and lips. When Jesus said, "No one commeth to the Father, save by me", the "I AM" was saying "the only way is to Know Me". However, Jesus put us in the same boat with Him, saying, "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." Again, Mooji Baba referring to what Jesus said regarding Truth, "...and the truth shall make you free." Look at the entire verse, which starts with the one before it: "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8: 31-32 Holy Bible, King James Version. "...my word" refers to Jesus' teaching, which, of course, is the message in that teaching. Christian theology suggests that that which it calls "God" is omnipresent. This would not be possible if the "I AM" was not the Self that we actually are. Both Rupert Spira and Mooji Baba speak of "Realizing" One's Self. Knowing One's Self is the culmination of all "seeking". It is the Realization in Self Realization! Let's consider a silly little supposition which may help... Assume there is a giant wad of bubble gum as large as all the Universe. Now assume someone had the ability to reach out to that wad of bubble gum take a small pinch, roll it between their fingers into a little ball, and then with it still attached to the wad, string it out and place it in the chair in which You are sitting. So, in this silly supposition, that ball of chewing gum is you. If a horse has a rope around its neck and the other end is tied to a post, the horse, the rope, and the post are all connected. However, that ball of chewing gum isn't "connected" to the wad. It, the strung out portion, and the wad, are all a single entity of bubble gum. They aren't connected! This is the case w/ us. We aren't connected to omnipresent Consciousness (with a capital "C"); we are part and parcel with It. We are a manifested extension of it, as is all the Universe. The deficit, what is missing, is our Awareness of this fact, i.e. our Awareness of Our Self. Its just that that Self isn't what we have always taken our self to be, i.e. body, personality, ego, psyche, career abilities, social skills, etc. This is why Rupert, repeatedly tells us to "reverse our Attention, direct it inward, that we might gain Awareness of what is there, the Self that has never changed, never aged. If you would Know Your Self, simply Know that "THERE - ISNT - ANYTHING - BUT - YOU". To Know Your Self, You must give Your Self Attention. Worship is spelled A T T E N T I O N! It is perception, specifically, everything we always took as ourselves, which prevents us waking up. Get that there is only one piece of bubble gum, THERE - ISNT - ANYTHING - BUT - YOU, and your years of "searching" are finally over.
Thank you for the extensive feedback.
Intellectual understanding is not final, when calamities after calamities can't upset you or they passed unnoticed ,failed to divert you, then only you can live the understanding. Only understanding can't help you, guru is needed otherwise situation will wash away your direct understanding. True teacher will enjoy your liberation and he knows best when you no longer need any support. ❤
But what in being one with your passions like Sports, music, art and so on? I love doing my sport. A musician loves playing his instrument. That definitely makes happy!?
I think it is the recognition that there is no particular activity that is somehow producing happiness. I think on the contrary it is the fact you are open to the happiness that seems to derive from the activity that gives it space to manifest. In other words it's not important what "it" is. It is the removal of resistance, or judgment or fear or blame associated with your activity that translates as peace or happiness.
Mooji explained the I AM very well.
One will only be Completed via being oneness with God. This sincere woman as seeker is aspiring for that Oneness through enlightenment, which cam be achieved through Holy Spirit in Christ with God father, ie Trinity. Excellence of Philosophy or wisdom as Paul says in Corinthian 2.1 won’t help; crucification of one’s small self with Christ so that the small self becoming the big Self, ie one with God in Christ, is the salvation path.
A realised Master or Guru is God himself and is very much required for a seeker as his guide.God doesnt have a mind,he is blind.A Guru who is realised or enlightened,who is Sthithapragya,acts as Gods mind and eyes.But beware of fake gurus.
.I am a Heartfulness Practitioner and this system,which is one of the largest spiritual system in India,and was formed by a realised Guru and is now under the guidance of Padmabhushan Kamlesh patel,who is known as Daaji,who is 4th in the lineage of Gurus.Heartfulness is spread across 160 countries in the world now.Thanks to the Great Masters.
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Yes Mooji, Christ said, take these words * through ME I AM is the way. The beaurocrats removed the word is, to make Christ.the body as the only route. The words are the route through each who take them as their own route. Excellently delivered Mooji. X
Conjecture without evidence........Not very useful is it. Perhaps i turn to a Muslim to tell me about Buddhism.
Thanks for sharing!!
Love Mooji
Please Where is that translation?
@@nyomansabun1136 all evidence within. “I is neither Muslim nor buddhist. Neither is “it”useful.
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As I've become old I now realise the wisdom in "The kingdom of God is within you" Or maybe more succinctly, when Jung was asked did he believe in God? He replied "No..... I Know God" The wily old fox must have chuckled inside as he knew he was God. These poor souls in the audience are like little birds in a nest hungrily squawking for someone to feed them, not realising the infinite godlike power just waiting inside❤
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Know self and the emerald tablet understanding so above so below are two aspects of union with the divine ground. You might not get enlightened but in a way you will be when you are given the truth of your being . You will be inspired by the light of the consciousness of your source and thereby participate in the essence.
Well Said.
I AM 🎉❤
But i still haven't found what i am looking for... 😢
haven't we all
Here under my coment ...I see : " a clear answer of enlightment "...Actually, it was a speach about how to resolve simply the laberint that the " word " enlightment" create around human been .He sayd clear that is NOT AN EXPERIENCE .. than means : it is a fantasy as all what we see and even tho what we search to .
The G you really need is Gautama Buddha 🙏
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I am is dream illusion the i am is seperation
Talk to me; singularity.
You prefer this?
I loved when the woman said to Rupert, "Then why are all these people here??" She should've said, "Why are all these people here when you give them such unhelpful answers?" ....I'm so done with Rupert Spira; this woman was sincerely asking for help and he just kept saying "but it's right here"....Obviously that wasn't going to help her. Whoever it was who told her that her spiritual seeking was an "addiction" wasn't helping her either--- Jesus said to sell everything for the pearl of great price....I say her seeking is worthy, and won't go unfulfilled. Someone like Lisa Rose (there's a Buddha at the Gas Pump interview of her) went on an all out search, and found awakening.
It’s so simple you have missed it . Listen again to his words. Save this clip continue your path and set a reminder to come back to it. It really is just that simple ❤
I would say:
make your ears wide open
and listen again
a spezialy to that
what is between the lines
i found it quite root to write such a comment !
as long as the finger shows to the outside, the work is not done !
that was listener’s opinion
and he expressed it . What is actually rude is to bash other peoples spiritual paths and this is actually what Mr Rupert did.
Yup... Like so many gurus, it's just constant word salad. Gobbledigook. He speaks of we all want happiness. What? Surely deep contentment would cover happiness and so much more. He talks too much for me. Nice voice though🤣
Lucky😅
Purna
They have been talking about it for a very long time. And had they become awakened, we would never have heard of them. No one is awakened. What you have, just like all of the sages, teachers, gurus before them, are explainers of nothing for that is their claim. Nothing exists except the true self. The true self is not the mind/body they say. So what is doing the explaining is really the old self, itself. For the true self is transcendent and no longer available in this dream world. So, what this means is that all of this, us, 8 billion body/minds and the rest of impermanence is just making a lot of sounds and actions that really have no meaning at all. For there were never any true selves here from the start. Only dream characters.
Turkısh please
fron one addiction to anorher apparently more sublime
You know whats crazy the ‘ self ‘ tries to be enlightened tries to be or tries to be space or awareness of whatever but the self the i is a dream its an appearance it doesn’t even exist
How can a self which does not exist become enlightened?
...never felt deeply touched by a special moment, when you become aware of a plant?...a tree? ...an animal? ...a bird? ...or a great view to the sky above a valley?
@@demEINENentgegen988 😃👍🌱🌳🐯🐦🌄🌺🌿
The individual will never find enlightenment or can't be enlightened because the person doesn't exist. The seeking is an illusion, it's all about a contracted energy of being someone that collapses and no one does it. After the collapse, things always has happen and no one is doing anything. And there's nothing wrong with seeking. The only thing is that the seeker will never find what it longs for cause is already this.
Well Said.
They are not talking together. I suggest that wouldn’t happen. Rupert would not.
Self can't get out of self 😂
I am...
ŴHAT??? 😅😅😅
Who TRANSLATED the original biblical text & did they even know what the original writings said or did the scholars have the deep, DIVINE understanding to CORRECTLY interpret the original messages????
To this day, scholars continue to ARGUE over what certain items in the bible actually mean so WHY should i take seriously ANYTHING in a modern Bible???
I'll stick with my own, inner understanding & Divine
Inperations! 😂
Intelectual people always searching for details explanation for everything from A to Z,meanwhile spirituality means "shut up and be in silence" you are not exist!🤣🤣🤣
We are at the end of the Kali Yuga , the world is full of confusion and so called enlightened beings , that includes these two , they are talking nonsense…. God bless
Baba, conjecture isnt really useful here. Please tell me about what you DO. Its like pub talk. Thank you for the video btw 🙂
I felt Rupert wasn't helpful---the woman mentioned Eckhart Tolle; Eckhart HAD an "experience"--- Rupert says enlightenment isn't an experience, and that a cup of tea is way more "interesting"...Eckhart's "experience" stayed with him, it was sudden and perhaps unusual in that it doesn't happen that way for most people. But it seems to have been WAY more "interesting" than a cup of tea (nothing against cups of tea)--- Eckhart sat on park benches for months, in some kind of blissed out state
Noted
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Jesus was talking a lot about false prophets, and lovers of themselves and money. They are everywhere on RUclips!
Maby you ar olso one ..?
Wath Realisation you are/have tath you know you are on the right path?
When you realy anderstud jesus / you wuld know thath this man speek aboth christ it self. Dont be confuset about the diffrent word, see where the word pointin too.
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Rupert is COOL ....Mooji is a joke
There is some controversy about him.
This mooji is a second hand peddler
yes
A few people have voiced this.
Ignorant people. You should have learned that mind is old. Only thoughts are new. Too many self-appointed so-called 'masters', 'babas', and 'gurus',. Just turn your eyes inwards and see your own beauty and qualities. No one can help you.
@AD-by5eg
You are lucky for not being ignorant. It's good you are here to help us.
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