Even if not "forced" forced, Ithink it was "called for" in the sense that a normal punch wouldn't necessarily have ended Boros. Serious was unnecessary, so not forced but also not less than 1% or something. What we can be sure about is that it was nothing compared to the Serious Punch(^2 literally or x2 not sure) against Garou. Because if it was the "same" serious punch, it would extend far beyond compared to just the atmosphere. Serious punch^2 might have reached thousands of stars.
@@ayushdeshmukh284 Yeah, but we can also say Saitama himself isn't anywhere near the level he's at during the SP^2 because not only does he naturally grow in power as time goes on, but he was also enraged and possibly bloodlusted when he threw the SP that was part of the SP^2 because.
Saitama has a move where he goes back in time and hits his opponents past self and it is undodgeable that's an instant win for Saitama as he can just go back to when goku was a baby and beat the ever living crap out of him.
Base Goku - Universal+ as a lowball to Multiversal feats. Saitama - Multi Galaxy at his highest scaling at this point in the story. Not even a debate until we see Saitama at the end of his story. But Goku also keeps growing too so good luck haha.
@@RoseRose-cc6ys Blud if Blast didn't intervene, that square serious punch would destroy the universe. That "hole" that you didn't want me to bring in, is actually the fact that power which was sent into one direction destroyed millions of galaxies behind it, due to the fact that those galaxies are really far away, and the fact that those galaxies destroyed in millions just shows how powerful the square punch is.
@@TheEraser312 yeah? goku is still stronger.... he has hakai in the manga and manga is overall canon acording to everyone I ask so he can just hakai one punch back to hell
Basically, people tend to lowball Goku because most of his feats are visually unimpressive. His absurd power mostly has to be established through statements and scaling. Meanwhile Saitama feels more powerful than Goku to the average anime fan because his franchise generally has way better art quality and fight choreography.
People love to say "Dragonball has no feats its all statements" like no shit otherwise the universe would be destroyed every single battle. But the whole concept with power in Dragonball is controlling your Ki that was the whole point of Goku learning to control SSJ God so he didnt destroy everything
this nigga never broke shit but some bones 🤒🤒 i have never seen goku use a special move, or a punch, or a technique that destroyed a galaxy in one shot. he can be as strong as you want him to be but i have definitely seen superman and thor and saint seiya and all types of powerful characters stronger than saitama do crazy shit. goku has not done anything on panel crazier than saitama. "goku scales higher" i dont give a single flying fucking fadoodle. show me a panel of his destructive capability.
@@fishnutz5196 "controlling your ki" 💀💀💀 you can admit that goku is strong enough to fight and hurt strong people without telling me he could destroy a galaxy with zero *on panel* feats that even come close to that 💀
@@tnsxpm you clearly didnt read or watch the battle of gods arc.... literally stated and SHOWN him mastering the ki control in order to not destroy the universe.
That pathetic character is not even a solar system level. these pathetic saitamaturds are way insane when it comes to their favorite character. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thinking about it. Goku obliterates saitama. Goku can destroy entire galaxies with ease. Saitama to his credit, saitama can rise to unlimited levels. But so can goku.
@@clashroyale-yl4ecI watched the anime and Goku can run out of ki but it takes a long time and Goku almost destroying the universe was real in the battle of gods movie he nearly destroyed the universe by clashing with beerus
No one in Saitama is at Goku's level. People used to say ssj3 Goku caps at star level and Saitama is equal to him........... People are crazy. Goku's energy while powering up to ssj3 reached and shocked Gohan, Shin and Kibito. They were shocked to see his power can reach there. The otherworld is transcendental to the living world which contains dimensions that cannot be perceived by the human beings. And is completely separate space-time. The kaioshin realm which revolves around the universe 7 as a moon considers living World as a lower realm. And ssj3 power reached the kaioshin realm is crazy. This is Z. I don't get why Goku vs Saitama is a thing at all. The power or AP difference is huge like not even funny. In db verse raw power negates durability and haxes.
@@achiyanmondal5058 I mean we can't know what it will actually be like since we haven't seen Saitama be pushed so far as to get angry or actually serious in a fight. So goku will of course win by feats.
@@SpedSukuna I get ur point. Maybe at the end of series- Saitama could reach universal or multiversal, but u know how Saitama fans are. But the debate between him and Goku isn't even close
I'm glad that you high-balled Saitama because, even when he has the benefit of the doubt, he loses to anything after Z if you low-ball Kid Buu or don't mention Janemba. Also : "I love people that don't read, doesn't everybody?"
yeah, Death battle really doesn't like getting into the facts because they choose who wins based on the more popular character half the time, just look at Asta vs Deku, every statement that Asta had was really bad and sometimes not factual, they didn't even get into his strongest feats either, but with Deku, he was given noncannon feats and brand new scaling
I dont know where they got the db universe being 13 times the observable universe this includes afterlife and kai relams with demon realm when it has been stated to be infinite realities ontop of ininfite realities
To be fair the at the rate we have seen OP start to scale is substantially faster than DB as a whole. We just have to wait and see how far they take OP. As of now DB feats are far more and larger. I've got faith tho we'll see.
One small thing about the Cell saga being solar system level. Though its a fair place to scale them, you also can't forget that the canon guidebooks describe solar systems a bit different than real ones. They are described as galactic nebulae that contain innumerable stars (the page is actually brought up in the video). Essentially yes, you could scale Cell saga characters to solar system level, which Saitama would casually manhandle. You could also take that cosmology statement into account, and say that "innumerable" by the standards of cosmological phenomena (such as the number of stars in a galaxy, or number of galaxies in a universe.), would easily equal upper trillions, putting them well into galaxy level, which puts Cell saga characters well above what is literally shown in the OPM manga (16,500 stars destroyed.). You could also interpret "endless" to be more literal, in which case even a high balled Saitama is obviously falling short.
@@SuperKamiGuruu saying One Punch Man grows stronger during the fight, is a great way to say you don't even understand the most basic stuff about DBZ, and your opinion is insanely invalid.
I like people that don't even read our comments, your point is 100% valid. People who have big egos see that you praise the character that they don't like and those people try to shoot us down without understanding that we aren't downplaying Goku when we say Saitama is Multi-Galaxy level. As if that matters to DBS Goku's power in the slightest. People are illiterate and dumb and I really wish they'd keep to themselves with their illiteracy.
@@Hexis17 Kid I've been on DBZ since before you were born, your opinion is the one that's invalid LMFAO Take them Saiyan testicles out of your mouth and cope that Saitama's shown bare minimum multi galaxy levels of strength with his current power being unknown.
Oh... The one that was different. VS SAITAMA! Putting Goku up with some people are fun. Wish Sprite battles like Mario or Sonic would be put up with some. "Can he beat Goku tho?" Kid Goku vs Pre Training... ~~ Early Chapter vs 23. Ooh Early Z. Now how far does he go up. Buu Saga. ~~~ Once it becomes Super it's over. ~~~~ Why... Sad Music... The pain...
Besides saitama vs goku, I think sonic the hedgehog vs goku was and still is one of the most explosive and talked about debates over that past decade, Even now, you still have people debating wither the fastest thing alive can beat the saiyan with a pure heart awakened by rage.
It's currently probably going in Gokus favor, albeit Sonic has more hax. But they're extremely comparable in power now Until the ToP Sonic probably slams any cannon version of Goku
@@EnglishOr._Spanish are you refering to Sonic Generations right? Well technically he didn't react to it and he only reacted to the time eater's physical form, not his ability to travel and destroy timelines. But if you're talking about 06, Shadow and Silver used the chaos emerald to create a portal to travel to the points in time, which gave them the ablity to destroy Solaris' physical form binding him to the 3rd dimension plane, meaning Sonic and Co wouldn't scale to the time hax, because they didn't run through time and space, but rather travelled with a portal. Although, even if he did, Goku does have scaling to moving faster than time, Goku black's attacks were shown to damage trunk's time machine (who travel multiverses, not universes like Solaris) in the middle of travel and not just the startup time. Furthermore it's stated that Goku surpassed Hit's timeskip which skips time by freezing a tenth of a second, then hit performs an action causing him to skip ahead to when that action occurs, so Goku would also have immeasurable speed anyway.
Every time I see someone saying Goku gets destroyed by Saitama there is always a ton of spelling and grammar mistakes. It’s almost feels like when a different opinion is voiced they rush to the comments to type out what they think is correct.🤷
I think the most important thing that you don't take into account with this video is just the general nature of Saitama's abilities. He seems to have the ultimate form of "breaking limits" that saiyans have. We've seen saiyans get a good amount stronger in a short time (over hours and even minutes) but when Saitama starts to get stronger its exponentially faster than anything we've seen the saiyan's achieve at any point. The source of his ability seems to be the god of creation and existence itself giving him however much power he needs to win and sometimes way WAY more than he needs which is always hilarious. The more Garou grew during their fight the FASTER Saitama grew and the harder he outclassed him. So really the question is how strong is the god of everything in the OPM universe. We've seen Goku max out but we've never seen Saitama/his god patron max out so who knows. I personally lean towards Saitama being the winner with Goku coming back to challenge him again and again mostly because that would be the ultimate happy ending for them both in a way. Goku has the kind of growth that could give Saitama hope for a good fight and maybe pull him out of his depression and Goku would be hype for having an eternally stronger guy to fight. The perfect rivals
You do know that Goku went from getting no diffed by Jiren to being blatantly stronger than him in a few minutes. And at the time, Jiren was blocking multiverse power with a finger. The gap of of growth is immeasurably larger than the adaption Saitama has shown. Relatively, Saitama moves at a snail's pace
Nope.Relative to Goku’s speed of growth while in battle,Saitama’s growth rate is much slower.You could argue that even sayian saga Gohan has a faster growth rate than current saitama.Yeah there goes your argument,Goku slam.
Xeno can erase the whole universe (and so anyone in it) and gave Goku a button to summon him anytime. Doesn't matter how strong you are if you are erased from existence. You usedd a god in your argument so it's a fair move.
Really feats come down to how they disperse energy. Saitama only disperses energy in an explosive way while goku can do the same amount of energy, but not in an explosive way.
Oh yeah absolutely. The first fight we see Goku in SSG where he threatened the very being of the infinite Dragon Ball universe into his base form! Saitama is absolutely not beating Goku.
And then Saitama one punches the infinite math whatever tiering you use multiverse in a fight against Super God and the cosmology suddenly gets buffed and Saitama destroys that too. Imagine how funny that’ll be.
Multi-galaxy level would put him above anyting before SSG Gokū. But NOTHING he does could compare to the absolute insanity that is ALMOST DESTROYING THE ENTIRE MACROCOSM. A MASSIVELY high balled Boo arc Gokū would be equal to this high-balled Saitama, but only if we use the absolute dogshit that is the Boo arc anime power scaling. If we use a conservative scaling for Gokū and we high-ball Saitama, we would get Saitama beating the absolute piss out of everyone in the original Dragon Ball manga, but he loses instantly to SSG Gokū from Battle of Gods.
There are many videi total that says "Final debate of goku vs saitama" but new fans keeps reigniting the flames and old flames also keeps joining that new flame so unless everyone wake up the fire is gonna keep burning
Opm fans don't realize Goku has became an eteriel. In the end Goku's story will continue even after Saitama is done. I don't see him winning against Goku unless the creator makes him infinite at the end if his story. But we all know he losses all his powers at the end according to Morada
I don’t know bout the ending but for now saitama literally can adapt to anything and become stronger than that thing. He can even see and touch thing that should not be seen or touched
the difference is that opm is a new anime so they cant show the full extent of saitmas power. But i know in the near future, we are gonna see better feats from saitama, that will conclude the fight. It's crazy enough that he doesn't have a limiter.
Idk what death battle is smoking but id like them to watch tour video so they can pull back on the wacky saitama gag feats. They may just do it for entertainment sake but i cant know for certain. Thank you for the video and cleaeing up misconceptions on where saitama scales to goku.
it because of the flashy and destructive animation of opm why they keep comparing him to goku but the fact is that goku wins and people who cant see beyond the flashy and intense animation of opm and look at the statistics will never understand
Saitama vs Goku is a preheated debate but let me scale them pretty quick. Base Goku should be low complex multiversal,Or 5 to 6d. Saitama is only like what is Multi Galaxy.
Before I watch the video, I'm going to say goku beats current saitama before saitama can scale to his level of power. Maybe in the future saitama can beat goku.He'd have to scale faster than the dragonball series to catch up though... lol
Yeah but to be fair Saitama during his final fight with Garou definitely outstripped the speeds we've seen Dragonball characters grow at. They break their limits and get stronger sure but Saitama was not only getting stronger but accelerating with how much faster he was getting stronger every second. Which to me indicates his ability to grow was just getting warmed up. I think they'd just end up outmatching each other forever. Its way more fun that way anyways
I havent given much thought about this, and my take could be a little biased since I have never watched dragon ball but I have done a little bit of research into it. Heres my take, neither would win. let me start by talking about what Saitama can do since I am more familiar with his feats. I say this because despite what people may say about saitama he is at the end of the day a gag character and his gimmick is that he can defeat any enemy in one punch (this has been confirmed by both authors!! therefore it is not a valid argument to say that he is not a gag character). Now for fights like boros we see that it takes multiple punches in order to defeat him, here is where my own theory takes place on the matter: Saitama controls his strength. We saw in season one and in the manga that saitama was not adapting to boros like he did with cosmic fear garou and he was not in any way shape or form trying, so why would he not try against boros I mean he threatened to destroy the earth well what I think is that saitama was gauging his strength as saitama never really fought back and only threw the occasional punch while dodging blocking and weaving through boros' attacks which is not something he did with Garou as he was very offensive during that fight, now yes boros is significantly weaker than dragon ball opponents however, we also see in season one that Saitama can one punch snek (the A-class hero who has wall level feats) and snek survives. considering that lowballing it boros is 1000x stronger than snek, saitama would have to heavily restrain himself in order not to kill snek. So what do I think what happened in the garou fight? well as we know Saitama is the only thing in the one punch man universe that has broken the limiter placed on him by god (who is believed to be the main antagonist of the one punch man series), however if you take this at face value then saitama is always growing, however this appears to not be the case as he never adapts to his opponent. What I believe is saitamas strength plateaus at an unbelievably high point and only when facing god level threats (I.e. monsters that threat the extinction of the human race) his base offensive capabilities become outclassed and he must grow in order to defeat his opponent. Garou is known in the series as being able to adapt to anything and in his new god form adapts to saitama in hopes of creating a fair fight however saitama surpasses Garous adaptability despite not knowing anything about martial arts (Garou is a martial arts prodigy) and exponentially grows. Okay I talked about saitamas true strength (IN MY OPINION) enough now here is my take on why neither would win and it comes back to saitama being a gag character in a way. Saitama has never taken damage. Say what you will about goku but his series has ended and he doesn't always win like Saitam, and one punch man is still continuing but as it stands Saitama has never taken damage (actually there is one instance where a cat scratches saitama and you could argue he drew blood but it striked me as a not serious moment so yeah) anyways I believe that goku would probably be able to attack saitama for, well, forever basically. And this is giving both characters the benefit of the doubt like with saitama basically being immortal and goku not being able to kill a gag character which I have heard he has done before. Another thing is, Saitama just has more niche powers up his sleeve that goku doesn't have like being able to breathe in space or being able to fight against fourth dimensional beings, not like that last one would particularly help saitama in a 1v1 but... At the end of the day this debate will never have a clear answer because it is almost entirely up to speculation. does gokus brute force win? Or maybe saitams exponential capabilities will give him the win. but yeah, this is all my opinion so feel free to debunk this but if you want to debunk this then please use real argument instead of "goku beats saitama" or "saitama beats goku" it's kinda immature and not what I was going for.
@@HorrorGameFanatik I have a really short attention span and I read it at night, I could only go in like 1 paragraph. I tried to read it, I just couldn’t
Even as a fan of both and more, so an OPM fan... I know Goku wins...(for now 😈 new stuff from the manga 😈)... This was an extremely enjoyable video with very good scaling... Just one mistake... You said Saitama will never have Martial arts... That's a little wrong... Yes, he won't train to have one that he'll then stick to in fights... But from his Garou fight, we are clearly shown that he can deal with characters who possess the best martial arts in the universe created by fusing all martial arts... then later on on i.o the moon of Jupiter... Garou explicitly stated that Saitama had started using his own perfected martial arts against him, as if he were mocking Martial Arts... Which is crazy... So yes, Goku has better abilities and all and could win in an equal stats... but the Martial arts part is not so strong, since Saitama has actual feats and statements of being able to just up and replicate a martial arts created from fusing all over 100 martial arts in OPM plus one with the understanding of all energies in the universe... And he just copied it like it was nothing and started using it to beat the creator. I think that was the only mistake you made... other than that. Everything was accurate... Oh... yea... Saitama can survive in space, breathe, talk, and even sneeze/crack jokes.
The shitama fans are having a hard time understanding that even with shitamas best feat goku still wins no diff bro by ACCIDENT was going to destroy the living world (infinite sized realm) heaven (infinite sized realm) and hell (infinite sized realm) even the kiaoshin were shitting themselves And yes it was ALL goku. Beerus has control over his power while goku didn't
Goku in battle of gods threatening a universe, in top beating a dude who surpassed his god of destruction,in manga fought moro who devours planets and drains his enemies energy. Goku in pui easily overpowered him and beat him so bad he begged for mercy. After goku gave him a senzu bean morot tried to stab him in the chest but ended up breaking his arm on goku's hardened body,gas who was the strongest in the univese held his own against ultra ego vegeta and pui goku. Goku gaining a new form of ultra Instinct true ultra Instinct became slightly stronger than gas stated by goku himself. The the best saitama would get is z goku from cell to buu saga and that's it. Super goku negs saitama so tired of the opm fanboys.
Saitama is made to be the strongest...according to opm logic saitama had potential to surpass any opponent , no matter how strong the opponent.We are forgetting why writters of one punch man name it "one punch" man If somebody wants to debate with me then reply...but don't go rude or toxic😊
He is called caped baldy not one punch man and he is written to be the strongest within his verse not fiction as a whole. If an author of a series say my character can beat this character from another series, this does not automatically make them right. Robert Kirk man once said that invincible could beat hulk and a lot of people believed him meanwhile fans who read about the hulk and scaled him know that is BS and an author writing a character to be the strongest in their verse does not mean all of fiction because it is a no limits fallacy and headcanon. Anybody who claims this character is the strongest in fiction is automatically seen as an illiterate who only reads one thing. And in case people try to say 'saitama is the embodiment of all shonen tropes, therefore he is the strongest' is the dumbest thing to ever come out of a human being because breaking a trope means nothing. And people who assume one punch man is what started the parody shit have not watched gintama. That show has so much parody that it easily outplays one punch man and it has way more jokes in it and it was released before the one punch man web comic but even gintama is not considered a gag manga. And having jokes in your series does not make it a gag series.
At the current power level we have seen Saitama, his absolute highball scales above the entire Buu Saga minus Buuhan beinf able to collapse the universe, so everyone beloe Super Vegito and enraged Buuhan would be beloe Saitama, and given his growth he should be able to clear the Buu Saga. BVS though jumps straight to universal+ so Saitama probably can't beat that xd. So above Buu Saga but below all of Super. Also damn you really understimate most of One Punch Man huh xd
THINK ABOUT THIS IM A UNIVERSAL + BEING I THROW A UNIVERSAL + BLAST AT YOU YOU AND THE UNIVERSE IS NO MORE AND IM NOT EVEN SCRATCHED…… THESE OTHER FOOLS DO NOT STAND A CHANCE
you cant compare them because saitama is on the black list. he hasnt shown a limit, but that doesnt mean he hasnt got one. till now we know his power continues to grow, but we dont know if its infinite or if it has a limit. That is why there cant be a winner by power, although there can be a winner in feats (goku). Theoretically saitama could become 10x stronger than goku, but by current known feats goku wins.
Lol he tried to give opm fans hope I'm here so too bad, Firstly if saitama did fight god and destroy the entire universe that's still caped at Universal+ to low multi which would be lower than ssj vegito 😂😂, Here's why buuhan screamed and threatened to destroy the entire universe by stacking realms on top of each other and this was going to be quick and a 1 shot and not over time as vegito was concerned and stopped him immediately, the living world which buuhan was going to destroy comprises of multiple space times making it Low multi but would overall be couple times higher than a normal space time which would be the opm verse at a high ball unless the auther states otherwise, the living world is infinite since there's too many statements to say so, so vegito at that point 1 shots since he couple times stronger and that's ignoring the fact the living world contains realms such as time chamber, dead zone which can actually be scaled to 5D as its a hyperspace, realm where guardians go to after they die which we don't know how far it scales do yh we could be looking at 6D living world the afterlife being 8D as u hav to add time on top of the living world which is an extra dimension and that's ignoring the fact there's super dimensions aswell 🤣
Yes... Buuhan threatened to destroy the universe by distorting space which would cause parallel realms to enter the universe. That's not a quantifiable feat. That's just cartoon magic.
Saitamas potentia>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku Cope he has the potential the surpass goku But currently saitama peaks at buu saga lvl and gets slammed by base super goku
@@TamakkiScales well i ask the question since if we say goku and vegeta scale to outerversal their base and final forms are both outerversal as the multipliers for the transformations are finite thats why i ask with saitama his potential is easy to calculate as we have a finite scale to work off of thats why this is not broly vs saitama as broly wins ez this is equal stats so im not comparing their feats just growth
I think buu saga goku could lose only if goku does goku things like only uses base then super saiyan and so fourth and on but the increase in power from ssj3 to ssj god would allow him to 1 tap saitama considering 50 x 50 x 50 is the power output being 125,000 and ssj 4 is 6,250,000 and ssj god is 312,000,000 only if you think a super saiyan is another 50 times then ssj blue would be 15,625,000,000 then kioken x 20 is 312,500,000,000 and super saiyan god evolved is 781,250,000,000 even with a base power of one your broken and beating super buu absorbed Gohan Piccolo Trunks Goten but if you really want it to be a douche use ui omen fights over
@@Vihaan8888Kid Buu is stronger than buuhan who threatened to destroy the living universe by collapsing an alternate dimension on top of it and vegeto is still stronger than him. And Goku in battle of gods is stronger than that vegeto
@@Vihaan8888buu saga goku is absolutely universal. Just ss3 powering up was felt at the realm of the Kai’s, a parallel world outside the universe 7 macrocosm. Also, the guy that ss3 is going toe-to-toe with screamed out of a dimension.
Future saitama and past saitama fused now hrs much weaker compared to the saitama that defeated Cosmic Garou, So technically if Goku Goes Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 plus using ether Hakai or Dragon Fist And saitama gets hits by it then he's dead lol, saitama is a character similar to saiyan as he fights he slowly gets stronger but what if Goku Goes Max Transformation plus stacking Techniques to the max and hitting saitama with a Powerful lethal attack from the start of s1 opm then he's totally dead🤣
stop talking about other series i havent watched yet damnit (that time i got reincarnated as a slime, etc) let me experience the characters on my own. thought this was about saitama and goku and got a long ass intro about superman gojo and slime
Personally i hate this debate because there is no right answer. Goku wins if you only look at the feats shown in their respective series, however saitama wins if based on writing since saitama has 100% winrate in fighting since is written to always win while goku has lost multiple times. Its literally superman vs goku argument again; Writing vs Feats
I find this a very good opinion on the matter, but I do believe that if the fight between the two lasted longer than 5 minutes, it would be Saitama's win due to his inherit ability to grow during a fight as shown with the Garou fight. and since Goku is known to let others power up before finishing them, Saitama might actually have ample time. also I don't think Goku and fart Jupiter out of existence
See the problem with the "saitama strength growth" argument, is that in order for Multi-solar/multi-galaxy level saitama to reach infinite-sized-universe destroying Goku he would literally have to get infinitely stronger, something he has not demonstrated the capacity to do.
Come on man. Isn't one punch just a well drawn gag hero. The basis of his power is ridiculous. Comically ridiculous. He's the strongest from such a way makes him a plot armor hero. Here's Goku on the other hand. Dedicated to training and taking savings the world seriously. Saitama's attitude is so I'm playing dumb for no reason. Like he doesn't understand the situation then turns it on like a light switch. I don't like it. Goku in a easy win. Krillen whips Saitama very in a very uneventful way. Now if put together in a anime, you know Goku and him would chill together Goku invites Saitama over for dinner. Then loses a eating contest with Goku woth Goku not even trying.
Nah Man. Don’t think that you can call rational individuals delusional and get away with it 🫵🏼💀 Why is everyone so biased that they fail to realize that Saitama has literally no limits when it comes to scaling? It would only take one punch from MUI Goku for Saitama to overcome Goku’s levels in a matter of seconds, as proven in the manga against Garou. It is simple logic. Y’all just compare feats without realizing that a fight doesn’t depends exclusively by those, obviously Goku in his current state is beyond OPM, but it’s all about who would scale victorious in an encounter You thought that was it 🫵🏼💀 For the argument that Goku would just need a serious blow at the start to destroy Saitama, Garou literally copied Saitama’s strength and landed many blows at him, showcasing that Saitama did not really flinch at his same level of raw power. This means that his durability is an extremely different breed when compared to his strength increase. Now you can argue that Saitama’s durability never faced Goku’s kind of full strength yet, but exactly because we do not know Saitama’s limits, nobody can claim that Goku has the win either
According to logic of both verse Saitama would win once the battle start all he needs is to tank a punch from Goku if he tanks it he automatically win but if he can't he lose it's not that complicated Goku's battle with Jiren might be able to destroy the universe but Saitama in chapter 168 of the OPM manga could tank an attack that destroyed a lot of galaxies and hes uninjured and by the end of the battle he's punches were on par with Goku's punches and Cosmic Fear Garou copied those punches and hits Saitama with it while Saitama was uninjured he didn't even puke blood meaning he would tank Goku's punches with ease and knowing Goku's fighting style Saitama would just leave him behind keep this in mind Saitama's growth rate is always doubled even TUI Goku can't beat Saitama Goku is known for having infinite potential but what will it do against someone with limitless growth unless Goku can grow fast than Saitama Saitama wins with a difficulty of 0/100 People that says Base Goku slams Saitama they're not right in the head
No, his punches don't scale to Gokus at all. Atp Goku is high multi universal, saitama is very high galaxy. Assuming Goku and Saitama go in to fight blind as soon as Goku lands one punch it's over through the sheer power difference. Like you said it's not that complicated
You do know that saitama has not shown the capability to survive a punch from someone who is infinitely stronger than himself right. And saying saitama can just adapt after a punch is stupid because saitama started growing exponentially through his intense emotionsl like the sadness he felt for Geno's death. Did you read the manga at all?
@@OyinkansolaAgboolaBut if you will, how about when they were sent into the galaxy and both were with a serious punch 2x with just a base form and tanked "multi-solar" all galaxies from our naked eye, at the base form... By that logic, Goku would be on the same power level scale as it would be useless power to destroy Saitama, as even so, Saitama is Limitless in just a power level, he's losing to Goku right there as with a base form then, yeah, he lost Sike! He has everything Limitless, do you all think that he has only limitless power adaptation? No no no, he has then Limitless everything- Durability, Endurance, Power, etc. Story ended.
@@mrliberox I don't know how you could compare Saitama and garou punching away stars and potentially a galaxy to Goku and beerus threatening to destroy the universe. It kinda looks like you are calling me an idiot when you are just spitting limitless everywhere without evening explaining whatever you are trying to say
good one right off the top of my the daily life of he immortal king would one shot him just the realise of his power fucking destroyed reality and he had to create a new one.
Ok let me clear something up I don’t know if you know comic books or but comics don’t have a main character some characters are more popular then others some characters are more powerful then others every character has they own comic books lol so there are no main characters in comics😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
garou alone beat goku garou and saitama almost destroyed the universe and after that they becom 1000 to millions of time stronger, and garou also could react to infinite speed while even angels cant , so yah garou solo goku
They didn't even destroy a galaxy and never reacted to infinite speed. Even if they became billions of times stronger, still multi galaxy level. Weaker than buuhan, let alone goku
@@broggy52 Murata said garou can destroy the universe, that mean the galaxy es got destroyed, and after omnidirectional punch saitama appeared in garou s portal right after he made it ,
Saying you universe level and showing you is is two different things everybody in dbz supposedly are universe destroyers people say but only one have destroyed a universe and thats zeno and they fear him mean while one punch man actually nvm lol😅
Saitama can one shot Goku in all his forms except ultra instinct. That's where the real fight begins but eventually Saitama would adapt to him and one punch him. Goku does stand a chance, that's the painful truth we Goku fans will never accept.
Holy shit you're delusional provide even the slightest bit of actual evidence shitama could even move gokus finger nevermind beat him. Reminder that shitamas best feat is galaxy level. Gokus is multiversal
...Wat. When has Saitama shown feats that are anywhere near single Universal, let alone multi? Which is where BASE Goku was at at the start of Super. He's since become hundreds of times stronger (in base) and that's a lowball over the course of the series.
@@gyver8448 bro relax, don't let these power scalers drive you crazy for nothing. These multi water level doesn't add up. With all those feats Goku is getting scratched by a bullet in his base form and can't tank a planet exploding in his face in super Saiyan blue and Saitamas serious punch can destroy a planet. Can you explain that🤷🏿♂️
@@mosesmkandawire3032 It's a well established fact that in Dragonball a characters durability and such is tied to their focus. The only time Goku has ever been harmed by bullets and such was when he was fucking around and not focusing. Unless you're going to tell me that Super Goku has less durability than kid Goku who took no damage from being shot in the face? It's an outlier.
@@gyver8448 that's true but even at their best concentration, we have seen characters like Goku take damage. Gokus durability and strength can never be compared to Saitama.
@@lonkstakes at this point Gokus power level is at a set point , wich means the maximum level of his power can be sensed. Goku does break those limits all the by almost dying everytime. SAITAMAS power level just has no end.
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I don't think Saitama was forced to use a Serious Punch from what I remember. He still does call Boros "almost a fight" though.
Also goated video.
Even if not "forced" forced, Ithink it was "called for" in the sense that a normal punch wouldn't necessarily have ended Boros.
Serious was unnecessary, so not forced but also not less than 1% or something.
What we can be sure about is that it was nothing compared to the Serious Punch(^2 literally or x2 not sure) against Garou. Because if it was the "same" serious punch, it would extend far beyond compared to just the atmosphere. Serious punch^2 might have reached thousands of stars.
@@ayushdeshmukh284 Yeah, but we can also say Saitama himself isn't anywhere near the level he's at during the SP^2 because not only does he naturally grow in power as time goes on, but he was also enraged and possibly bloodlusted when he threw the SP that was part of the SP^2 because.
Saitama has a move where he goes back in time and hits his opponents past self and it is undodgeable that's an instant win for Saitama as he can just go back to when goku was a baby and beat the ever living crap out of him.
@@EnglishOr._Spanish Except Saitama's only ever shown to be able to time travel a very short amount of time.
@@EnglishOr._Spanishwhat I thought he went back in time bc of blast wth r u talking abt?
Base Goku - Universal+ as a lowball to Multiversal feats.
Saitama - Multi Galaxy at his highest scaling at this point in the story.
Not even a debate until we see Saitama at the end of his story. But Goku also keeps growing too so good luck haha.
Saitama is Uni+ get Ur scalings sorted out boi
@@TheEraser312 zero evidence of that with his current feats. Even if you wank him to Uni+ Goku stomps him in base.... so your point?
@@TheEraser312name ONE just ONE single feat shown so far that puts him at UNI+ let alone universal💀
@@RoseRose-cc6ys Blud if Blast didn't intervene, that square serious punch would destroy the universe. That "hole" that you didn't want me to bring in, is actually the fact that power which was sent into one direction destroyed millions of galaxies behind it, due to the fact that those galaxies are really far away, and the fact that those galaxies destroyed in millions just shows how powerful the square punch is.
@@TheEraser312 yeah? goku is still stronger.... he has hakai in the manga and manga is overall canon acording to everyone I ask so he can just hakai one punch back to hell
Basically, people tend to lowball Goku because most of his feats are visually unimpressive. His absurd power mostly has to be established through statements and scaling.
Meanwhile Saitama feels more powerful than Goku to the average anime fan because his franchise generally has way better art quality and fight choreography.
Yeah i agree about this
People love to say "Dragonball has no feats its all statements" like no shit otherwise the universe would be destroyed every single battle. But the whole concept with power in Dragonball is controlling your Ki that was the whole point of Goku learning to control SSJ God so he didnt destroy everything
this nigga never broke shit but some bones 🤒🤒 i have never seen goku use a special move, or a punch, or a technique that destroyed a galaxy in one shot. he can be as strong as you want him to be but i have definitely seen superman and thor and saint seiya and all types of powerful characters stronger than saitama do crazy shit. goku has not done anything on panel crazier than saitama. "goku scales higher" i dont give a single flying fucking fadoodle. show me a panel of his destructive capability.
@@fishnutz5196 "controlling your ki" 💀💀💀 you can admit that goku is strong enough to fight and hurt strong people without telling me he could destroy a galaxy with zero *on panel* feats that even come close to that 💀
@@tnsxpm you clearly didnt read or watch the battle of gods arc.... literally stated and SHOWN him mastering the ki control in order to not destroy the universe.
Saitama being around Buu saga goku level sounds pretty reasonable tbh
That's exactly where I would put him. Potential to scale higher as time go on.
That pathetic character is not even a solar system level. these pathetic saitamaturds are way insane when it comes to their favorite character. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Buu saga ssj3 goku is universe level
@lazerbreaker4758 probably ssj1 goku namek saga level
@@Gustavo_The_G.O.A.T weaker but yes he is on that level
Why this is even a thing at all
So facts
Thinking about it. Goku obliterates saitama. Goku can destroy entire galaxies with ease. Saitama to his credit, saitama can rise to unlimited levels. But so can goku.
Goku could run out of ki but I don't watch enough dragon ball to know
@@clashroyale-yl4ecI watched the anime and Goku can run out of ki but it takes a long time and Goku almost destroying the universe was real in the battle of gods movie he nearly destroyed the universe by clashing with beerus
No one in Saitama is at Goku's level. People used to say ssj3 Goku caps at star level and Saitama is equal to him........... People are crazy. Goku's energy while powering up to ssj3 reached and shocked Gohan, Shin and Kibito. They were shocked to see his power can reach there. The otherworld is transcendental to the living world which contains dimensions that cannot be perceived by the human beings. And is completely separate space-time. The kaioshin realm which revolves around the universe 7 as a moon considers living World as a lower realm. And ssj3 power reached the kaioshin realm is crazy. This is Z. I don't get why Goku vs Saitama is a thing at all. The power or AP difference is huge like not even funny. In db verse raw power negates durability and haxes.
And I will get clowned for saying this but whatever. Ignorance is crazy
@@achiyanmondal5058 I mean we can't know what it will actually be like since we haven't seen Saitama be pushed so far as to get angry or actually serious in a fight. So goku will of course win by feats.
@@SpedSukuna I get ur point. Maybe at the end of series- Saitama could reach universal or multiversal, but u know how Saitama fans are. But the debate between him and Goku isn't even close
@@achiyanmondal5058 I have been guilty of being a toxic fan, But I've cleared up.
@@SpedSukuna u don't have to. there are worse fanboys
I'm glad that you high-balled Saitama because, even when he has the benefit of the doubt, he loses to anything after Z if you low-ball Kid Buu or don't mention Janemba.
Also : "I love people that don't read, doesn't everybody?"
OPM fans after watching the video: "That doesn't prove anything! 😠"
FR saitama fanboys needa touch some grass tbh
*prove
@@marceljr5081 This is like the pot calling the kettle black
My soul can now finally rest. Thank you.
This debate sucks. OPM Mosquito VS DBZ Rock is THE battle of the century.
Death Battle could've given Goku just one win over Superman. But no, they think they know best.
That was prior to Ultra Instinct, THAT Goku, can possibly win against him
That was due to DB doing the stupid thing of fusing every Super Man together rather than picking the strongest super man that isn't using toon force.
They lowballed goku and wanked superman
yeah, Death battle really doesn't like getting into the facts because they choose who wins based on the more popular character half the time, just look at Asta vs Deku, every statement that Asta had was really bad and sometimes not factual, they didn't even get into his strongest feats either, but with Deku, he was given noncannon feats and brand new scaling
I dont know where they got the db universe being 13 times the observable universe this includes afterlife and kai relams with demon realm when it has been stated to be infinite realities ontop of ininfite realities
To be fair the at the rate we have seen OP start to scale is substantially faster than DB as a whole. We just have to wait and see how far they take OP. As of now DB feats are far more and larger. I've got faith tho we'll see.
Dragon ball is gonna get outdated
One small thing about the Cell saga being solar system level. Though its a fair place to scale them, you also can't forget that the canon guidebooks describe solar systems a bit different than real ones. They are described as galactic nebulae that contain innumerable stars (the page is actually brought up in the video). Essentially yes, you could scale Cell saga characters to solar system level, which Saitama would casually manhandle. You could also take that cosmology statement into account, and say that "innumerable" by the standards of cosmological phenomena (such as the number of stars in a galaxy, or number of galaxies in a universe.), would easily equal upper trillions, putting them well into galaxy level, which puts Cell saga characters well above what is literally shown in the OPM manga (16,500 stars destroyed.). You could also interpret "endless" to be more literal, in which case even a high balled Saitama is obviously falling short.
boros is most certainly planet level. saitama is multi galactic as well
He's at best galaxy not multi. Meaning super buu just screaming wins with no effort
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 multi galaxy* plus he continuously grew stronger literally after that post landing on IO.
@@SuperKamiGuruu saying One Punch Man grows stronger during the fight, is a great way to say you don't even understand the most basic stuff about DBZ, and your opinion is insanely invalid.
I like people that don't even read our comments, your point is 100% valid. People who have big egos see that you praise the character that they don't like and those people try to shoot us down without understanding that we aren't downplaying Goku when we say Saitama is Multi-Galaxy level. As if that matters to DBS Goku's power in the slightest.
People are illiterate and dumb and I really wish they'd keep to themselves with their illiteracy.
@@Hexis17 Kid I've been on DBZ since before you were born, your opinion is the one that's invalid LMFAO Take them Saiyan testicles out of your mouth and cope that Saitama's shown bare minimum multi galaxy levels of strength with his current power being unknown.
If your are talking about "who can defeat Goku" then there is only one solid answer that is Chi Chi yes only chi chi can defeat Goku😅
Awesome video bro it was great 👍
Oh...
The one that was different.
VS SAITAMA!
Putting Goku up with some people are fun.
Wish Sprite battles like Mario or Sonic would be put up with some.
"Can he beat Goku tho?"
Kid Goku vs Pre Training...
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Early Chapter vs 23.
Ooh Early Z.
Now how far does he go up.
Buu Saga.
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Once it becomes Super it's over.
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Why...
Sad Music...
The pain...
4:22 that shows the control
Saitama is just throwing all his power. But goku can concentrate that power and control it to minimise destruction😊😊😊
Besides saitama vs goku, I think sonic the hedgehog vs goku was and still is one of the most explosive and talked about debates over that past decade, Even now, you still have people debating wither the fastest thing alive can beat the saiyan with a pure heart awakened by rage.
Its a good debate unless its archie sonic
It's currently probably going in Gokus favor, albeit Sonic has more hax. But they're extremely comparable in power now
Until the ToP Sonic probably slams any cannon version of Goku
Sonic once moved faster then time itself.
@@EnglishOr._Spanish are you refering to Sonic Generations right? Well technically he didn't react to it and he only reacted to the time eater's physical form, not his ability to travel and destroy timelines. But if you're talking about 06, Shadow and Silver used the chaos emerald to create a portal to travel to the points in time, which gave them the ablity to destroy Solaris' physical form binding him to the 3rd dimension plane, meaning Sonic and Co wouldn't scale to the time hax, because they didn't run through time and space, but rather travelled with a portal. Although, even if he did, Goku does have scaling to moving faster than time, Goku black's attacks were shown to damage trunk's time machine (who travel multiverses, not universes like Solaris) in the middle of travel and not just the startup time. Furthermore it's stated that Goku surpassed Hit's timeskip which skips time by freezing a tenth of a second, then hit performs an action causing him to skip ahead to when that action occurs, so Goku would also have immeasurable speed anyway.
Sonic obliterates
Every time I see someone saying Goku gets destroyed by Saitama there is always a ton of spelling and grammar mistakes. It’s almost feels like when a different opinion is voiced they rush to the comments to type out what they think is correct.🤷
I think the most important thing that you don't take into account with this video is just the general nature of Saitama's abilities. He seems to have the ultimate form of "breaking limits" that saiyans have. We've seen saiyans get a good amount stronger in a short time (over hours and even minutes) but when Saitama starts to get stronger its exponentially faster than anything we've seen the saiyan's achieve at any point.
The source of his ability seems to be the god of creation and existence itself giving him however much power he needs to win and sometimes way WAY more than he needs which is always hilarious. The more Garou grew during their fight the FASTER Saitama grew and the harder he outclassed him. So really the question is how strong is the god of everything in the OPM universe. We've seen Goku max out but we've never seen Saitama/his god patron max out so who knows.
I personally lean towards Saitama being the winner with Goku coming back to challenge him again and again mostly because that would be the ultimate happy ending for them both in a way. Goku has the kind of growth that could give Saitama hope for a good fight and maybe pull him out of his depression and Goku would be hype for having an eternally stronger guy to fight. The perfect rivals
You do know that Goku went from getting no diffed by Jiren to being blatantly stronger than him in a few minutes. And at the time, Jiren was blocking multiverse power with a finger. The gap of of growth is immeasurably larger than the adaption Saitama has shown. Relatively, Saitama moves at a snail's pace
Nope.Relative to Goku’s speed of growth while in battle,Saitama’s growth rate is much slower.You could argue that even sayian saga Gohan has a faster growth rate than current saitama.Yeah there goes your argument,Goku slam.
This is exactly what I think lol
Xeno can erase the whole universe (and so anyone in it) and gave Goku a button to summon him anytime.
Doesn't matter how strong you are if you are erased from existence.
You usedd a god in your argument so it's a fair move.
W Lonk vid the way you covered the Hole Feat was accurate, really good, and probably the best take on said feat I have seen on RUclips or Tiktok
Really feats come down to how they disperse energy. Saitama only disperses energy in an explosive way while goku can do the same amount of energy, but not in an explosive way.
No
@@shirosatsuma4946 No? Fuck you mean n- bruh you really out here tryna get yo ass beat talking all that shit
@@shirosatsuma4946no what?
@@idk._.636 his comment is just wrong
Goku base form slams saitama
Oh yeah absolutely. The first fight we see Goku in SSG where he threatened the very being of the infinite Dragon Ball universe into his base form! Saitama is absolutely not beating Goku.
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@@qadirnadeem9582 What's so funny about it? It's true based off of the video you're commenting on.
@qadirnadeem9582 disagree? Sure go ahead tell me why you disagree and Ill annihilate your argument
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Saitama solos
What do you think of the most recent chapter of OPM and Void's current scaling? Do you think it changes the Goku vs Saitama debate at all?
you proved my point now iam going to send this link to my friends to destroy their believes thanks
And then Saitama one punches the infinite math whatever tiering you use multiverse in a fight against Super God and the cosmology suddenly gets buffed and Saitama destroys that too.
Imagine how funny that’ll be.
that'd be a big F U from One (opm's writer) to all dbz fans, and he might be petty enough to do it 🤣
Multi-galaxy level would put him above anyting before SSG Gokū. But NOTHING he does could compare to the absolute insanity that is ALMOST DESTROYING THE ENTIRE MACROCOSM. A MASSIVELY high balled Boo arc Gokū would be equal to this high-balled Saitama, but only if we use the absolute dogshit that is the Boo arc anime power scaling. If we use a conservative scaling for Gokū and we high-ball Saitama, we would get Saitama beating the absolute piss out of everyone in the original Dragon Ball manga, but he loses instantly to SSG Gokū from Battle of Gods.
There are many videi total that says "Final debate of goku vs saitama" but new fans keeps reigniting the flames and old flames also keeps joining that new flame so unless everyone wake up the fire is gonna keep burning
Cell saga Goku slames Saitama and every one else he mentions in this vid btw amazing vid keep up the amazing work
Opm fans don't realize Goku has became an eteriel. In the end Goku's story will continue even after Saitama is done. I don't see him winning against Goku unless the creator makes him infinite at the end if his story. But we all know he losses all his powers at the end according to Morada
I don’t know bout the ending but for now saitama literally can adapt to anything and become stronger than that thing. He can even see and touch thing that should not be seen or touched
@@royistheboi2638 sure.
@@royistheboi2638saitama is nothing compared to goku base every opm fan has to accept it
@@royistheboi2638And Goku is able to destroy hit's pocket dimension
*funny and clever comment*
I laughed at this funny and clever comment
@@No-idea-tbhme too and clever comment
LMAO SUCH A CLEVER COMMENT💀
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Base Goku slams. Even Buuhan does.
Base Gohan slams resurrection F
Random character: Look how strong he is!
Goku: Look how strong he is becoming!
That's why Goku is more interesting for me.
Great video!
Goss actual scaling but what about the "herp deep gag bla bla 1 punch is literal"
Snark aside great vid man
"Maybe the entire Universe"? Did you watch DBS?
the difference is that opm is a new anime so they cant show the full extent of saitmas power. But i know in the near future, we are gonna see better feats from saitama, that will conclude the fight. It's crazy enough that he doesn't have a limiter.
Idk what death battle is smoking but id like them to watch tour video so they can pull back on the wacky saitama gag feats. They may just do it for entertainment sake but i cant know for certain. Thank you for the video and cleaeing up misconceptions on where saitama scales to goku.
it because of the flashy and destructive animation of opm why they keep comparing him to goku but the fact is that goku wins and people who cant see beyond the flashy and intense animation of opm and look at the statistics will never understand
OPM fanboys literally repeat the same trashy feats a trillion times over and over again lol
Saitama vs Goku is a preheated debate but let me scale them pretty quick. Base Goku should be low complex multiversal,Or 5 to 6d. Saitama is only like what is Multi Galaxy.
Good video but why last part was so dramatic 😂
Before I watch the video, I'm going to say goku beats current saitama before saitama can scale to his level of power. Maybe in the future saitama can beat goku.He'd have to scale faster than the dragonball series to catch up though... lol
Yeah but to be fair Saitama during his final fight with Garou definitely outstripped the speeds we've seen Dragonball characters grow at. They break their limits and get stronger sure but Saitama was not only getting stronger but accelerating with how much faster he was getting stronger every second. Which to me indicates his ability to grow was just getting warmed up. I think they'd just end up outmatching each other forever. Its way more fun that way anyways
true but i think we can all agree that starting the debate in the first place was stupid
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This shit fire asf bro I’m high asf rn eating panda and god these videos are like what watching lion fights in a colosseum are to Romans is to me
with equal stats saitama would eventually win due to his growth mid battle, but with how things are right now in scaling, saitama lacks too much stats
Let’s not forget that Saitama cannot fly so how does he even compete with Z fighters.
I havent given much thought about this, and my take could be a little biased since I have never watched dragon ball but I have done a little bit of research into it.
Heres my take, neither would win. let me start by talking about what Saitama can do since I am more familiar with his feats. I say this because despite what people may say about saitama he is at the end of the day a gag character and his gimmick is that he can defeat any enemy in one punch (this has been confirmed by both authors!! therefore it is not a valid argument to say that he is not a gag character). Now for fights like boros we see that it takes multiple punches in order to defeat him, here is where my own theory takes place on the matter: Saitama controls his strength. We saw in season one and in the manga that saitama was not adapting to boros like he did with cosmic fear garou and he was not in any way shape or form trying, so why would he not try against boros I mean he threatened to destroy the earth well what I think is that saitama was gauging his strength as saitama never really fought back and only threw the occasional punch while dodging blocking and weaving through boros' attacks which is not something he did with Garou as he was very offensive during that fight, now yes boros is significantly weaker than dragon ball opponents however, we also see in season one that Saitama can one punch snek (the A-class hero who has wall level feats) and snek survives. considering that lowballing it boros is 1000x stronger than snek, saitama would have to heavily restrain himself in order not to kill snek. So what do I think what happened in the garou fight? well as we know Saitama is the only thing in the one punch man universe that has broken the limiter placed on him by god (who is believed to be the main antagonist of the one punch man series), however if you take this at face value then saitama is always growing, however this appears to not be the case as he never adapts to his opponent. What I believe is saitamas strength plateaus at an unbelievably high point and only when facing god level threats (I.e. monsters that threat the extinction of the human race) his base offensive capabilities become outclassed and he must grow in order to defeat his opponent. Garou is known in the series as being able to adapt to anything and in his new god form adapts to saitama in hopes of creating a fair fight however saitama surpasses Garous adaptability despite not knowing anything about martial arts (Garou is a martial arts prodigy) and exponentially grows.
Okay I talked about saitamas true strength (IN MY OPINION) enough now here is my take on why neither would win and it comes back to saitama being a gag character in a way. Saitama has never taken damage. Say what you will about goku but his series has ended and he doesn't always win like Saitam, and one punch man is still continuing but as it stands Saitama has never taken damage (actually there is one instance where a cat scratches saitama and you could argue he drew blood but it striked me as a not serious moment so yeah) anyways I believe that goku would probably be able to attack saitama for, well, forever basically. And this is giving both characters the benefit of the doubt like with saitama basically being immortal and goku not being able to kill a gag character which I have heard he has done before. Another thing is, Saitama just has more niche powers up his sleeve that goku doesn't have like being able to breathe in space or being able to fight against fourth dimensional beings, not like that last one would particularly help saitama in a 1v1 but...
At the end of the day this debate will never have a clear answer because it is almost entirely up to speculation. does gokus brute force win? Or maybe saitams exponential capabilities will give him the win. but yeah, this is all my opinion so feel free to debunk this but if you want to debunk this then please use real argument instead of "goku beats saitama" or "saitama beats goku" it's kinda immature and not what I was going for.
add a tl;dr please my eyes hurt 😭
@@TheGrimReaper19 yeah I guess I did make it a little long, my apologies. But if you don't want to read it then don't respond.
@@HorrorGameFanatik I have a really short attention span and I read it at night, I could only go in like 1 paragraph. I tried to read it, I just couldn’t
Even as a fan of both and more, so an OPM fan... I know Goku wins...(for now 😈 new stuff from the manga 😈)...
This was an extremely enjoyable video with very good scaling...
Just one mistake... You said Saitama will never have Martial arts... That's a little wrong... Yes, he won't train to have one that he'll then stick to in fights... But from his Garou fight, we are clearly shown that he can deal with characters who possess the best martial arts in the universe created by fusing all martial arts... then later on on i.o the moon of Jupiter... Garou explicitly stated that Saitama had started using his own perfected martial arts against him, as if he were mocking Martial Arts... Which is crazy...
So yes, Goku has better abilities and all and could win in an equal stats... but the Martial arts part is not so strong, since Saitama has actual feats and statements of being able to just up and replicate a martial arts created from fusing all over 100 martial arts in OPM plus one with the understanding of all energies in the universe... And he just copied it like it was nothing and started using it to beat the creator.
I think that was the only mistake you made... other than that. Everything was accurate...
Oh... yea... Saitama can survive in space, breathe, talk, and even sneeze/crack jokes.
The shitama fans are having a hard time understanding that even with shitamas best feat goku still wins no diff bro by ACCIDENT was going to destroy the living world (infinite sized realm) heaven (infinite sized realm) and hell (infinite sized realm) even the kiaoshin were shitting themselves
And yes it was ALL goku. Beerus has control over his power while goku didn't
heres the right response to "saitama slams goku"
ok
Goku in battle of gods threatening a universe, in top beating a dude who surpassed his god of destruction,in manga fought moro who devours planets and drains his enemies energy. Goku in pui easily overpowered him and beat him so bad he begged for mercy. After goku gave him a senzu bean morot tried to stab him in the chest but ended up breaking his arm on goku's hardened body,gas who was the strongest in the univese held his own against ultra ego vegeta and pui goku. Goku gaining a new form of ultra Instinct true ultra Instinct became slightly stronger than gas stated by goku himself. The the best saitama would get is z goku from cell to buu saga and that's it. Super goku negs saitama so tired of the opm fanboys.
I think kid buu is stronger then Saitama because kid buu has destroyed galaxys when Saitama can destroy suns
Goku wins
Its simple. OPM fans are hard headed.
real vid, y do i still see ppl saying saitama can destroy galaxies. where tf does it show him destroying a galaxy
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Goku solo😊
One goofy ninja boi with uni+ feats out here destroying powerscaling in a single manga issue lmao
Yeah. Fits them right
Saitama is made to be the strongest...according to opm logic saitama had potential to surpass any opponent , no matter how strong the opponent.We are forgetting why writters of one punch man name it "one punch" man
If somebody wants to debate with me then reply...but don't go rude or toxic😊
He is called caped baldy not one punch man and he is written to be the strongest within his verse not fiction as a whole. If an author of a series say my character can beat this character from another series, this does not automatically make them right. Robert Kirk man once said that invincible could beat hulk and a lot of people believed him meanwhile fans who read about the hulk and scaled him know that is BS and an author writing a character to be the strongest in their verse does not mean all of fiction because it is a no limits fallacy and headcanon. Anybody who claims this character is the strongest in fiction is automatically seen as an illiterate who only reads one thing. And in case people try to say 'saitama is the embodiment of all shonen tropes, therefore he is the strongest' is the dumbest thing to ever come out of a human being because breaking a trope means nothing. And people who assume one punch man is what started the parody shit have not watched gintama. That show has so much parody that it easily outplays one punch man and it has way more jokes in it and it was released before the one punch man web comic but even gintama is not considered a gag manga. And having jokes in your series does not make it a gag series.
At the current power level we have seen Saitama, his absolute highball scales above the entire Buu Saga minus Buuhan beinf able to collapse the universe, so everyone beloe Super Vegito and enraged Buuhan would be beloe Saitama, and given his growth he should be able to clear the Buu Saga. BVS though jumps straight to universal+ so Saitama probably can't beat that xd. So above Buu Saga but below all of Super. Also damn you really understimate most of One Punch Man huh xd
increase volume next time please
Correct answer✅️
How many times has goku died again? How many times has Saitama been hurt? oh ok.
THINK ABOUT THIS IM A UNIVERSAL + BEING I THROW A UNIVERSAL + BLAST AT YOU YOU AND THE UNIVERSE IS NO MORE AND IM NOT EVEN SCRATCHED…… THESE OTHER FOOLS DO NOT STAND A CHANCE
you cant compare them because saitama is on the black list. he hasnt shown a limit, but that doesnt mean he hasnt got one. till now we know his power continues to grow, but we dont know if its infinite or if it has a limit. That is why there cant be a winner by power, although there can be a winner in feats (goku). Theoretically saitama could become 10x stronger than goku, but by current known feats goku wins.
TIE.
Both would dodge/tank their hits, and nothing would happen ovr
It's because of me there's goku vs Saitama debate. I was the first person to started it all.
Lol he tried to give opm fans hope I'm here so too bad,
Firstly if saitama did fight god and destroy the entire universe that's still caped at Universal+ to low multi which would be lower than ssj vegito 😂😂,
Here's why buuhan screamed and threatened to destroy the entire universe by stacking realms on top of each other and this was going to be quick and a 1 shot and not over time as vegito was concerned and stopped him immediately, the living world which buuhan was going to destroy comprises of multiple space times making it Low multi but would overall be couple times higher than a normal space time which would be the opm verse at a high ball unless the auther states otherwise, the living world is infinite since there's too many statements to say so, so vegito at that point 1 shots since he couple times stronger and that's ignoring the fact the living world contains realms such as time chamber, dead zone which can actually be scaled to 5D as its a hyperspace, realm where guardians go to after they die which we don't know how far it scales do yh we could be looking at 6D living world the afterlife being 8D as u hav to add time on top of the living world which is an extra dimension and that's ignoring the fact there's super dimensions aswell 🤣
Yes... Buuhan threatened to destroy the universe by distorting space which would cause parallel realms to enter the universe. That's not a quantifiable feat. That's just cartoon magic.
Saitamas potentia>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku Cope he has the potential the surpass goku
But currently saitama peaks at buu saga lvl and gets slammed by base super goku
Broly vs saitama equal stats who has the most potential that be a cool video
Broly wtf without a doubt
@@TamakkiScales well i ask the question since if we say goku and vegeta scale to outerversal their base and final forms are both outerversal as the multipliers for the transformations are finite thats why i ask with saitama his potential is easy to calculate as we have a finite scale to work off of thats why this is not broly vs saitama as broly wins ez this is equal stats so im not comparing their feats just growth
I think buu saga goku could lose only if goku does goku things like only uses base then super saiyan and so fourth and on but the increase in power from ssj3 to ssj god would allow him to 1 tap saitama considering 50 x 50 x 50 is the power output being 125,000 and ssj 4 is 6,250,000 and ssj god is 312,000,000 only if you think a super saiyan is another 50 times then ssj blue would be 15,625,000,000 then kioken x 20 is 312,500,000,000 and super saiyan god evolved is 781,250,000,000 even with a base power of one your broken and beating super buu absorbed Gohan Piccolo Trunks Goten but if you really want it to be a douche use ui omen fights over
buu saga goku is above universal while saitama caps at galaxy
@@ninjablade3411no buu saga is nowhere near universal
@@ninjablade3411he is galaxy level just like Saitama Saitama would probably be kid bui
@@Vihaan8888Kid Buu is stronger than buuhan who threatened to destroy the living universe by collapsing an alternate dimension on top of it and vegeto is still stronger than him. And Goku in battle of gods is stronger than that vegeto
@@Vihaan8888buu saga goku is absolutely universal. Just ss3 powering up was felt at the realm of the Kai’s, a parallel world outside the universe 7 macrocosm. Also, the guy that ss3 is going toe-to-toe with screamed out of a dimension.
Future saitama and past saitama fused now hrs much weaker compared to the saitama that defeated Cosmic Garou,
So technically if Goku Goes Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken x20 plus using ether Hakai or Dragon Fist And saitama gets hits by it then he's dead lol, saitama is a character similar to saiyan as he fights he slowly gets stronger but what if Goku Goes Max Transformation plus stacking Techniques to the max and hitting saitama with a Powerful lethal attack from the start of s1 opm then he's totally dead🤣
wtf is this, bait or plain stupidity
But now Saitama solos every DB Fan verse
stop talking about other series i havent watched yet damnit (that time i got reincarnated as a slime, etc) let me experience the characters on my own. thought this was about saitama and goku and got a long ass intro about superman gojo and slime
Personally i hate this debate because there is no right answer. Goku wins if you only look at the feats shown in their respective series, however saitama wins if based on writing since saitama has 100% winrate in fighting since is written to always win while goku has lost multiple times. Its literally superman vs goku argument again; Writing vs Feats
But super man has OP feats many versions
Saitama is high solar system level
Goku in cell saga is low solar system level
Goku is buu saga is galaxy level
Bro solar system in db are as big as galaxies
@@instantfam1011Actually they are comparable to nebulas which are smaller than galaxies but it doesn't really matter since saitama still gets stomped
Get Saitama past Krillin first
I find this a very good opinion on the matter, but I do believe that if the fight between the two lasted longer than 5 minutes, it would be Saitama's win due to his inherit ability to grow during a fight as shown with the Garou fight. and since Goku is known to let others power up before finishing them, Saitama might actually have ample time.
also I don't think Goku and fart Jupiter out of existence
See the problem with the "saitama strength growth" argument, is that in order for Multi-solar/multi-galaxy level saitama to reach infinite-sized-universe destroying Goku he would literally have to get infinitely stronger, something he has not demonstrated the capacity to do.
@@lonkstakes Very true
@@lonkstakes bruh do you even understand what infinite means.
@@nicogoliath4902 one punch man meat rider mad
@@lolcow6668 take Gokus banana out your mouth before talking to me
2:06 anime fans discovering silver surfer 😂
No, he ain’t beating Goku
Goku would defeat Saitama, but saying base form Goku is enough is absolutely idiotic.
base goku is enough debate me
@@XenMel typical Goku glazer
@@TheEraser312 debate me about base Goku vs caped baldy, calling me a glazer bc yk ill cook you in this debate
@@XenMel sure bro. Keep that "Goku solos" mentality. I don't need to debate with a person like you. All I can say is Saitama is at least SSJ3 level.
@@TheEraser312 lmao stupid asfk, Goku in Base solos midtama and his verse, get caped baldy past Frieza saga SSJ1 Goku
Come on man. Isn't one punch just a well drawn gag hero. The basis of his power is ridiculous. Comically ridiculous. He's the strongest from such a way makes him a plot armor hero. Here's Goku on the other hand. Dedicated to training and taking savings the world seriously. Saitama's attitude is so I'm playing dumb for no reason. Like he doesn't understand the situation then turns it on like a light switch. I don't like it. Goku in a easy win. Krillen whips Saitama very in a very uneventful way. Now if put together in a anime, you know Goku and him would chill together Goku invites Saitama over for dinner. Then loses a eating contest with Goku woth Goku not even trying.
Saitama is not a gag character
Sorry you have to put up with these comments sections. Probably got a lot of kids showing up here making actually talking about this annoying lol
yup
Goku is multiversale not universal
Nah Man. Don’t think that you can call rational individuals delusional and get away with it 🫵🏼💀
Why is everyone so biased that they fail to realize that Saitama has literally no limits when it comes to scaling? It would only take one punch from MUI Goku for Saitama to overcome Goku’s levels in a matter of seconds, as proven in the manga against Garou. It is simple logic.
Y’all just compare feats without realizing that a fight doesn’t depends exclusively by those, obviously Goku in his current state is beyond OPM, but it’s all about who would scale victorious in an encounter
You thought that was it 🫵🏼💀
For the argument that Goku would just need a serious blow at the start to destroy Saitama, Garou literally copied Saitama’s strength and landed many blows at him, showcasing that Saitama did not really flinch at his same level of raw power. This means that his durability is an extremely different breed when compared to his strength increase. Now you can argue that Saitama’s durability never faced Goku’s kind of full strength yet, but exactly because we do not know Saitama’s limits, nobody can claim that Goku has the win either
are you serious mate
@@miyahdon7057 Wouldn’t go that far otherwise.
What’s your excuse
@@Mika-vn8bv I just asked if you're serious I didn't know, but if you are, your whole argument is stupid.
Consideringbl the series is still progressing and we have some antagonist like God himself
Maybe another Cosmic buffed character by God ahead
No one cares lil bro goku wins
straight butchered gojo’s name☠️
According to logic of both verse Saitama would win once the battle start all he needs is to tank a punch from Goku if he tanks it he automatically win but if he can't he lose it's not that complicated
Goku's battle with Jiren might be able to destroy the universe but Saitama in chapter 168 of the OPM manga could tank an attack that destroyed a lot of galaxies and hes uninjured and by the end of the battle he's punches were on par with Goku's punches and Cosmic Fear Garou copied those punches and hits Saitama with it while Saitama was uninjured he didn't even puke blood meaning he would tank Goku's punches with ease and knowing Goku's fighting style Saitama would just leave him behind keep this in mind Saitama's growth rate is always doubled even TUI Goku can't beat Saitama
Goku is known for having infinite potential but what will it do against someone with limitless growth unless Goku can grow fast than Saitama Saitama wins with a difficulty of 0/100
People that says Base Goku slams Saitama they're not right in the head
No, his punches don't scale to Gokus at all. Atp Goku is high multi universal, saitama is very high galaxy. Assuming Goku and Saitama go in to fight blind as soon as Goku lands one punch it's over through the sheer power difference. Like you said it's not that complicated
You do know that saitama has not shown the capability to survive a punch from someone who is infinitely stronger than himself right. And saying saitama can just adapt after a punch is stupid because saitama started growing exponentially through his intense emotionsl like the sadness he felt for Geno's death. Did you read the manga at all?
@@OyinkansolaAgboolaOmg, are you fr in your right mind? This is the most far stupidest thing I ever heard or argumented
@@OyinkansolaAgboolaBut if you will, how about when they were sent into the galaxy and both were with a serious punch 2x with just a base form and tanked "multi-solar" all galaxies from our naked eye, at the base form... By that logic, Goku would be on the same power level scale as it would be useless power to destroy Saitama, as even so, Saitama is Limitless in just a power level, he's losing to Goku right there as with a base form then, yeah, he lost
Sike! He has everything Limitless, do you all think that he has only limitless power adaptation?
No no no, he has then Limitless everything- Durability, Endurance, Power, etc.
Story ended.
@@mrliberox I don't know how you could compare Saitama and garou punching away stars and potentially a galaxy to Goku and beerus threatening to destroy the universe. It kinda looks like you are calling me an idiot when you are just spitting limitless everywhere without evening explaining whatever you are trying to say
I don't understand if saitama can grow infinite time while battling way faster than goku can why saitama would lose. This isn't logical
Goku cannot be beaten
Except by Cell, Majin Buu, Beerus, Superman, Mr Satan, his wife, and most likely Saitama
He can be beaten but not by saitama
good one right off the top of my the daily life of he immortal king would one shot him just the realise of his power fucking destroyed reality and he had to create a new one.
he can be beaten by so many characters, but saitama isn't one of those
I'll like the Comment but they can be Beaten it just depends on who and when.
Ok let me clear something up I don’t know if you know comic books or but comics don’t have a main character some characters are more popular then others some characters are more powerful then others every character has they own comic books lol so there are no main characters in comics😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So Superman is not the main character in a Superman Comic? Spiderman is not the main character of a Spiderman Comic?
@@lonkstakes yeah in there own comic but in team up comics in over people comics no😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
garou alone beat goku
garou and saitama almost destroyed the universe and after that they becom 1000 to millions of time stronger, and garou also could react to infinite speed while even angels cant , so yah garou solo goku
They didn't even destroy a galaxy and never reacted to infinite speed. Even if they became billions of times stronger, still multi galaxy level. Weaker than buuhan, let alone goku
@@broggy52 Murata said garou can destroy the universe, that mean the galaxy es got destroyed, and after omnidirectional punch saitama appeared in garou s portal right after he made it ,
@@onebest7797 cool, still weaker than buuhan screaming
@@broggy52 no that was hax and still if you consider it , even garou is 5 d and scale higher
@@onebest7797 if he can just destroy the universe he's 3d. And it was ki exertion
Lonks tanks goku get clapped by saitama your friggin' gay
Lmao 💀
gayku fans scalers at it's best
saitama broke his limiter and is always holding back even against garou
you losers need to know that
And none of what you said means anything
Your opinion is not valid
Saying you universe level and showing you is is two different things everybody in dbz supposedly are universe destroyers people say but only one have destroyed a universe and thats zeno and they fear him mean while one punch man actually nvm lol😅
You are not really saying anything you know that right?
did people forgot that how satiama can grow stronger than goku
You have to prove that he could outgrow Goku
@@OyinkansolaAgboolaTell me you're Goku fanboy without telling me you're Goku fanboy
Nah Saitama wins, he'd punch him once game over
goo goo ga ga 👶
But he doesn't one punch everything?
@@aguy7792cause he doesn't want to. Doesnt remove the fact hes a gag character
@@KJGETThaBread saitama is not a gag character
@@aguy7792 ruclips.net/video/Akv_0KlF4bI/видео.html this is litteraly proof for my claims lol
Saitama can one shot Goku in all his forms except ultra instinct. That's where the real fight begins but eventually Saitama would adapt to him and one punch him. Goku does stand a chance, that's the painful truth we Goku fans will never accept.
Holy shit you're delusional provide even the slightest bit of actual evidence shitama could even move gokus finger nevermind beat him. Reminder that shitamas best feat is galaxy level. Gokus is multiversal
...Wat. When has Saitama shown feats that are anywhere near single Universal, let alone multi? Which is where BASE Goku was at at the start of Super. He's since become hundreds of times stronger (in base) and that's a lowball over the course of the series.
@@gyver8448 bro relax, don't let these power scalers drive you crazy for nothing. These multi water level doesn't add up. With all those feats Goku is getting scratched by a bullet in his base form and can't tank a planet exploding in his face in super Saiyan blue and Saitamas serious punch can destroy a planet. Can you explain that🤷🏿♂️
@@mosesmkandawire3032 It's a well established fact that in Dragonball a characters durability and such is tied to their focus. The only time Goku has ever been harmed by bullets and such was when he was fucking around and not focusing. Unless you're going to tell me that Super Goku has less durability than kid Goku who took no damage from being shot in the face? It's an outlier.
@@gyver8448 that's true but even at their best concentration, we have seen characters like Goku take damage. Gokus durability and strength can never be compared to Saitama.
I sense no limit to his power - Boros
"Keep blabbing, saiyans have no limits!" - Vegeta. See how random quotes from characters mean absolutely nothing?
@@lonkstakes at this point Gokus power level is at a set point , wich means the maximum level of his power can be sensed. Goku does break those limits all the by almost dying everytime.
SAITAMAS power level just has no end.
@@nicogoliath4902 same with Goku lmao
@@manofiron5934 🤝
@@nicogoliath4902there’s so many limitless power statements in dragon ball it’s ridiculous