Matt Chandler Is Back And Said THIS...
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2022
- Matt Chandler is back and preaching for the first time since being told to step down as a result of an "Inappropriate" Online Relationship that took place 3 months ago...
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My wife and I go to the village. We were there in person when Matt explained what happened. The relationship was flagged for “frequency & familiarity” with the woman that was inappropriate. There was also “course joking” as well. The elders pulled no punches and did exactly what the scripture teaches. Matt stepped up and did a really tough thing coming clean and in front of his family and wife no less. We have to be really careful not letting the media twist what it wants, as we know the world isn’t fond of Christians and is always waiting to point the fingers at us. ❤️🙏🏻
Sounds like a very mature church which, no offense, seems too big to be... I'm intrigued.
What does "course joking" mean? I think clarity should be brought to the congregation on that. Doesn't the Bible teach not to let any crude joking come out of your mouth? (Ephesians 5:4) Also, that is being addressed to God's people in general, but aren't pastors held to a higher regard? This seems like a joke, a really, really bad joke. If they had him undergo a neurological test and then brought him back that quickly something is very off.
@@MeganGantt22- biblically, it means sexual or innuendo jokes that twist the meaning of words. It is of a level that is inappropriate in such a way that shows the heart being in an unhealthy state. Most of the time, we can joke with people or be friendly with people and it won’t come across as flirty or playfulness. I suspect that comments referencing course jesting and familiar/frequent communication as crossing from just a friend that you respect into the realm of drawing closely. I feel completely comfortable saying hello to people in my community and having a friendly communication with them. Even enjoying our sense of humor. I feel safe out and about in public settings. But I specifically don’t text people outside of my marriage to talk or build relationship. I can text them about schedules or planning stuff. Even wish them a happy birthday but I don’t spend frequent text chains with someone one on one outside of my marriage. That is a healthy boundary that prevents inappropriate intimacy.
I think your questions about what is being left unsaid are correct. Why couldn’t he have been joking like this in a group text with his wife and her husband. That would have been fine. Why were they texting one on one.
I’m one of the 300 “fools” that left this church
Three months… He should’ve stepped down for at least 12 months to truly be discipled before coming back in a position where he can disciple others
I think the mistake some people are making is they're viewing the elder's request for him to step down temporarily as a "punishment"--so therefore he must have done something really sinful. No, all they're doing is being very vigilant to protect his heart and his reputation before a situation goes beyond inappropriate/dangerous to outright sinful.
This is the second video by you that I have watched. Bless you as you help others to understand our/others journey. I have to say that my feelings have paralleled yours almost 💯%! I feel I have found a real brother in Christ.
❤️🙏✌️
I think the best course of action is to not converse in anyway with a member of the opposite sex without your spouse present. It just shows respect and squashes any doubt of what may be going on.
I don’t think that’s necessarily feasible for every day life. people have to work, I Have friends at work and from other areas of my life of the opposite sex, but my husband and I don’t hide anything from each other. And we don’t spend time alone with the opposite sex unless it is work related and unavoidable. For instants at my job when it’s time to close for the evening it is often just me and a manager. I’m a woman and most of the managers are men. but I don’t linger, and I’m not going out to dinner with any of them after work unless it’s a group work function where there are many people present. I do text occasionally with male friends that I have but my husband and I have free access to each other‘s phone.
@@haleybudge4599 everyday all day as that's impossible but it looks similar to how you described it. Being aware in situations when your spouse is not present to honor the covenant you made to one another. Mindful of keeping workplace relationships professional free of physical and emotional attachments and having transparency with your spouse. When possible include your spouse in conversations with people of the opposite sex or more importantly when that person is hinting or flirting when your spouse is not around make it known you have a spouse.
His wife knew about this conversation. And the husband of the other woman knew as well.
Or, fucking control yourself.
Paul was strict on who could and couldn't preach
Who was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
These days anyone’s getting a platform
AMEN
Regardless, I am happy to see somebody own up to their actions. With humility, respect, and without self pride. That is more than many would do themselves.
"Own up"? Own up to what exactly? We still don't know what went on. Possibly less about authentic accountability and more about damage limitation. Matt and leadership have been conspicuous, not by what they've said, but by what they've chosen not to say. I don't hear Chandler talk about the precise nature of his sin. No sin committed? ....then why the requirement of church discipline. This whole thing stinks....and believe me, I was a huge fan of his teaching. "Foolishness" is not a synonym for "sin", Matt.
@@DG-mv6zw It's not your walk. It's his, with The Most High. I pray you renounce and cast down that bitterness, envy, rage, suspicious and unforgiving spirits within you. Amen.
@@thatswhatshesaid8365 it’s not just his walk. As a pastor and husband he has an oath to uphold & be accountable to. Transparency is vital to the health of his marriage & congregation.
I feel... as i am currently fighting a war in my life. That the guilt is a very important part in this. Every person has the right to repent and have an opportunity to be humbled. This man was humbled!
We work out our own salvation w fear and trembling. Dont be moved by guilt alone to spew your struggle but the love of know we hurt our dad. But like any good parent, he picks us up, sets our feet on the ground and walks with us through to better place in him. Humility before him. And then guilt has no more place, thats the devils whack a mole hammer. We repent wholeheartedly then Heads up! ❤
Conviction hits everyone differently. Hopefully his heart is in the right place and he is sincerely following the Fathers will.
Disoriented? Code for "I'm not accountable for what happened."
Going to watch the video. But my question off thr rip is " too soon? " when I fell in my ministry it took me YEARS to come back. I built my relationship with God and it changed everything. But it took time. Just my first thought. Nothing but love to Matt. I know its not a " sexual " thing yet it's only been 4 months. He needs more healing. Don't push the healing process.
Lol no
I feel like it may be too soon too. Yes, we should forgive, but has he really been able to dig deep within himself in 3 months to make sure these same actions that caused him to step down, don't happen again?
We don’t know his personal relationship with God to say it’s too soon
I honestly thought the same thing, but time is short these days so let us keep him in our prayers hopefully his Heart is doing the Fathers will. I'm glad you overcame whatever you were going thru.
Healing from what????
What a bunch of used car salesmen. That's what Matt and the other guy sounded like. They certainly do say a lot of words without actually saying anything. Also a whole lot of celebrity pastor going on here as well.
Sub’d. Good, even keel analysis. Well done.
Getting caught isn’t the same thing as godly sorrow that leads to repentance!
II Corinthians 7:10-11
I thought that without publicly displaying the convos he had with the woman, the elder was pretty clear about the content of the convos. It was fleshy, nonsexual, course joking.
The pastor went to the elders and they claimed it was an act of humility. No matter what, we definitely need to pray for our pastors who are shepherding YAH's ppl, bc the enemy is still sewing tares in darkness. 🙏🏼
And the pastors are still committing adultery.
He is no longer blameless. Much still hidden. Sin takes root and destroys eventually. In his position he wronged thousands. They deserve full disclosure.
I believe they handle this with God's Mercy and Grace. It sounds like he repented and did the work. After King David committed adultery and murder God restored him. Now if he does it again then that a whole another discussion. We have to continue to pray 🙏🏿🙏🏽🙏🏻 for our Pastor's and brothers and sisters in Christ and not be so quick to cancel them. Praying for the restoration for this church and members✝️🛐
Adultery does not have to be physical. Jesus said, “ …but I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery with her already in his heart….”’
Society has watered down sin. We now call Sodomites it/that/she/they etc.
And in this case emotionally cheating as opposed to adultery in the heart.
@@ServantofMessiah81This is about the adulterous pastor.
I don’t believe Matt Chandler to have done anything wrong based off of the information that’s been displayed. If anything, I believe they were in the wrong by not being transparent enough.
I will continue to watch Matt. Thank you for covering this, Nick! I just subscribed!
that is the point.... they will only release information which maintains a specific story. release all of their personal messages and let us decide. a real leader would have known their actions would cause distress to the church and getting Gods word out.
Matt Chandler admits he did something wrong, not due to conviction but due to being caught. So your logic for following him is because he admitted to be in some way shape or form guilty? Furthermore, when someone truly repents do you believe they will deflect their own sin onto others? He makes a point to say he hopes that they, "the church", won't have their shortcomings made public....hmmmm. Deflecting shows a lack of repentance rather than accepting he made a mistake. He also admits there may have been coarse jesting. Do you believe when the apostle Paul laid out the standard for a man to become an elder in a church that coarse jesting with anyone would have been allowed? How about coarse jesting, through familiarity with a woman, (privately on a social app) that is not his wife. We seriously lost our standards here in America and unfortunately other places too, as to who should be shepherding the sheep. Or maybe, we ignored what the Bible warned of when Matthew references wolves in sheep's clothing. Or how about the book of Jude when it discusses the great apostasy? It says they will feast among you...meaning you will think they are of God and welcome them. This is why judging people by their works or fruits is so important. He walks around proudly, teaching things like white guilt due to his "invisible bag of privilege", he messages women in secret that aren't his wife, and he supports people like Jen Wilkin who compare her menstrual cycle to the crucifixion of Christ and happens to be the director of men's and women's Bible studies in their church. Be careful who you follow so you are not led astray.
@@MeganGantt22 His wife knew about the messages. There were no secrets there.
I love your meek attitude Nick, Yahweh bless you man!!
I have listened to Matt for many years on podcast. Never attended the Village Church, but hope to someday. I know that over the years Matt has been through so many trials. And he has been open about them all.
I have heard a lot about this and know that there is so much more to this story. But if there was any type of deception or other items that the elders saw, I believe they would not be re-instating him so soon if at all.
Pastures have a very hard job, let alone they have to have tough conversations with folks in the church body. I don't want to gossip about this, and really we all have are own house to worry about. So if you don't know the full truth, best to not say anything, but to pray for those involved.
The issue that he'd dealt with wasn't that extreme but he still kinda decided to be unwise which is quite concerning for a pastor but i pray that God will offer him rest and comfort him Amen
The sin is not the issue. We all sin. The handling of the sin is the issue. Nick, you are spot on with your approach. Our church is faced with a similar situation and there is a "sweep it under the rug" approach that seems to say the less the body knows, the better. If you are aware of the sin and your effort is totally toward the "winning of your brother" there is no judgment on his sin. Fruit and the restoration are what need to be focused on and if you are not allowed to know the problem it is likely that the ones who hide it are focused on it, (the sin), not the healing. What is bound on earth will be bound in Heaven and you cannot bind what you do not know. Keep up the good work. Peace and Love my brother
Standing ovation tells me everything. The celebrity pastor era is almost over.
You're right. You want average adulterers.
The church elders did what they did and it was appropriate. Whatever happened isn't our business. It was handled and all is well.
It is your business when these are the men that want to control your life.
I just get the Feeling that this Pastor makes it all about him... I don't know i could be wrong🤔.. also,, I PERSONALLY KNOW HOW ALL MY SINS HAPPEN..
I think what it was that he was just speaking with this woman and having fleshy conversations with her. Meaning maybe talking with her a certain way. Possibly cursing in chats and just talking reckless. I don’t know. I don’t want to assume anything either but they didn’t reveal much so this is my interpretation.
“What did he do?”
According to what’s been reported…nothing.
He had a friendship with a woman. Her husband knew, his wife knew. Basically they were friend couples. Nothing was sexual or romantic.
The woman showed their DMs to a Karen and she complained so the elders had to do damage control.
It goes to show that men don’t have to actually do anything wrong. If a woman’s offended, he’s guilty. I’m not even a fan of Chandler but this whole situation was ridiculous.
release their DMS then. what are they hiding then? OBVIOUSLY the elders saw something more sinister
@@blackr0se They won't do that. They know that more Karens out there will make a fuss over the DMs no matter what they say. The primary concern was the frequency and the fact that is was male/female communication outside his pastoral role. In short, it was unprofessional.
I think it may have been politically bent jokes or something like that. It wasn't romantic, but still something heavy... my bet is politics... which as a pastor, would be inappropriate regardless of the gender of the person he was speaking with.
Nick and others maybe he didn't do anything in the physical , it could be that his heart wasn't in the right place. It could be that his heart his thoughts and weren't aligned with God's.
I find it disrespectful to the congregation that he is asking for forgiveness when they are being kept in the dark about what his actions were and it must be BAD since for the elders to even assess his brain as a possible cause is pretty shocking o.O
@@stephenmcdonaldjr Thank you, yes, I am aware of the right frontal lobe being removed however, I find it concerning that the elders considered his actions worthy of doing a brain scan and carrying out other tests to find a reasonable explanation for his actions which they could not find.
Jesus had conversations with the Father He didn’t share all the time… if those were innocent conversations then let them be. He felt his conviction and dealt with it. Leave it be and move on with your walk with Christ, brother. Jesus didn’t need all of Mary’s dirty secrets to wash her clean and sanctify her…
Wait am i hearing this right? They pulled off the most typical corporate scam where they "fire" a troublesome employee and if they are on good behavior for a few months they let him back into his same position as if nothing happened! At least when billion dollar Corporations do it they have the sense to not tell the public.
They didn't fire him. He was temporarily removed by the elders.
@@RunSamRun94 That's not what they said when he was removed initially unless they lied to the congregation and the public. And if you had elders willing to do that, your church has serious issues.
@@almalone3282 he wasn't troublesome, he talked with someone online - of which his wife knew, just to the point where elders felt he needed to take time off.
He is emotional because he is back on that stage,
3 months… there is something extremely wrong with this. True humility would’ve been to walk away and allow God to work in his heart by being accountable to Godly men through Biblical discipleship for at least 12 months. Instead of that, he has come back after 12 weeks and has been put into a position of discipling others when at the moment he is the one that needs to be discipled. It is ungodly and it is completely and utterly wrong!
🤔 The Lord doesn't make the days challenging it is our choices.
@@user-or9cj3vk6t I disagree with your statement as God does not use Satan to tempt us. His word clearly says we are tempted when we're draw by our lust James 1:14.
In the case of Job, he lived in continued fear which is opposite of faith. Faith pleases God, fear allows Satan to gain access.
Remember God said, above all he wished that we would prosper and be in good health even as our soul prospers. God said that he knows the plans for our lives, plans of good and not evil. Jeremiah 29:11.
The thief, Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy but God came that we may have life and have it more abundantly.
John 🔟: 🔟
I don’t mind forgiveness and reconciliation, even King David committed grievous sins, but I wonder if this is too soon to be placed back in a position of leadership. Ultimately I pray that God uses this situation for our good and His glory. I pray the woman involved is protected as well.
God’s timing not our that’s all i have to say
@@Xasalt That is very true
Yes David was out for 3 years
@korh5346 is so much more than that
How long should it be?
That is a man that walks by carnality and not by the power of the Holy Spirit. So few know how to be actual Christians nowadays. It’s really sad.
These men that were so trusted can't even take a year. ONE year out of the public. There is something wrong with that. It is like they can no longer go on as us lay people do....they crave and need their applause and adulation. To me, the hurry tells me the heart isn't right.
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Correct!!!!!
That’s what it is. Idolization & pride
WOw.... i am so GLAD to see others in the world see this as a huge problem. thank you God for keeping people awake to this nonsense by false "leaders"
Who's putting a timestamp on when people should disappear and come back?
14:20 I went to his church in 2008-9 when he had the brain cancer
I remember he's always been emotional.
I appreciate you video for the sake of examining the situation. However I think that you're making a lot of assumptions. They did give us some details when he first left. Frequency and familiarity was the problem. Nothing sexual. Also just because Matt is remorse doesn't mean that we don't know something about what he did, it just means he has genuine sorrow.
Exactly
I think gossip isn’t good in general should he had stepped down and work on correcting his mistakes yeah I believe so but the only ones he needs to ask forgiveness from is God and the people involved this whole thing should have been taken as a lesson to be more aware of one’s actions and stay true to the path and nothing more cause otherwise it takes away from the mission God has for us and distracts us from achieving it
We need to be careful with any church or pastors. I think any leader and pastors need to counsel there own gender because things can happen like this one. Use wisdom people!!
We are not to judge for we have flaws and mistakes. If Jesus Christ can forgive him then we should. He must turn away from his sins and repent.
This to me is so exaggerated. I understand discipline and accountability but we've allowed the media to have a field day.
I can't say I like his preaching much but as far as his ministry is concerned he has subjected himself to the elders and acted in the right way. Move on.
This is very deceptive. We still have no clue what sin he committed. Very confusing. If you are a public figure, then your sin being made public comes with the territory.
Course joking about alcohol apparently and his wife and the husband of the other woman were in on the conversation. Sounds like a big deal about a small deal.
Thank you so much for your thoroughness and the gentle delivery of what you shared.
I wonder if we have just become so callous in our convictions. It’s almost as if when we do something or see someone doing something contrary to what God expects of us as believers or those in an elder position, we doubt that what they did warrants a consequence unless it crosses a boundary that is sexual or romantic.
I wonder if it is possible that this man felt a conviction and remorse for exactly what he has shared happened and rather than accept that, we find it difficult to believe that someone would step down because of something that seems so trivial.
I wish others would evaluate their own actions/ thoughts and step a way for a bit to strengthen their relationship with God and family before their sin becomes sexual or physical. Myself included. Sadly, many will wait until that line has been crossed before stepping down or aside in ministry.
This pastor knew that having private conversations with someone other than his wife was not pleasing to the Lord. For many there must be more to the story. Maybe because for many of us his explanation is just an everyday occurrence in the days in which we live and we see nothing really wrong with it.
My prayers are for Pastor Matt and Village Church to use this to bring glory to the Lord.
So what happened?
When a leader in the church false in to sin it is kept so secretive and covered up the church members know nothing.
This is not a thing brothers and sisters manipulating the church members and accepting it use your discernment by the Holy Spirit in these last days brothers and sisters.
Talk about Gossip😂
How do we define gossip according to the Bible and how do we know if we're falling into it today? Its not clear to me the purpose of this video uplaod.
Doesn't sound like he is really taking full accountability, but at least he seems to have a contrite spirit.
remember matt is woke. He would be up there crying if a black person said he didn't say hi to them so don't read to much into the crying .
That part of his brain does have something to do with inhibition.
He beat himself up pretty good. It was exactly that. It was inappropriate between Matt and this woman had going on. Matt felt so guilty for it. He was the one that chose to step down. The elders agreed.
The church were told what happened, just because you did not see it publicity, does not mean to say the church members were not all informed.
It still sounds like an emotional affair
because they are selectivity releasing information.
More like committing lust in his own heart which is equivalent to adultery.
@@blackr0semore concerned about the PR rather than disciplinary actions.
I’ve no doubt that he is saved, loves Jesus and is a wonderful preacher but I’m so shocked he’s already back this fast!
frontal lobe is where scientists believe the "ego" is.... if you've followed him in the past, this is quite interesting... he doesn't seem to have one... at all
You keep pausing the video and questioning things. At one point about his being so emotional. If a man is truly in tuned and walking with God, the smallest of sins that causes a man's ministry to be halted is going to be extremely heart breaking to him and those under his ministry. It would lead to a broken and contrite heart which will be emotional, no matter what it is. I would be careful not to assume and most likely read into it what's not there. His return did not happen because Matt was in control of when he'd return. A group of elders was on watch and I'm sure much prayer and godly discussions took place and God was at work. Again, we need to be careful on causing any negative gossip. You know that's what Satan wants to do.
This whole situtaion is Extremely wierd. Elders should not be asked to step down over some momentary lapse of judgement. They should be removed for grievous sin.
They treated the situation as serious enough that character was deeply in question, but didn't reveal the details of why.
If the standard to remove someone from preaching was an UNINTENTIONAL act of being in the flesh for a moment, every elder would have to step down.
I would not be the slightest bit satisfied if I attended that church and received such insanely vague explanations of the situtation that caused his temporary removal.
Sounds like they may have sat him down for flirting 🤔 . I believe they said there was no cheating sooo.
Looks like special treatment for a celebrity preacher. Those who have been entrusted with a higher level of responsibilty must be held to a higher standard.
The whole culture in village church needs to be reconsidered.
Check out Preston sprinkle‘s response to this. Preston says that this was overblown and that he basically violated the Billy Graham rule, that is, don’t be alone with a woman ever. also that the joking was about alcohol and that the woman in question told him “don’t you dare apologize“. If this is true, then everyone here slamming him is speaking out of speculation and untruth. 🤷🏻♂️
So all the questions in the thread about the inappropriate talk. But one poster said it was course joking about alcohol and the ladies husband and his own wife were part of the conversation. The elders supposedly asked the police to check his phones and computers and there was no evidence of any bad or even visiting inappropriate websites. Is this all true? Sounds like they were joking about getting drunk
If police had to be involved he should never be leading.
It's still very vague. Based on what was previously stated I'm assuming the messages were edging on the line of flirtatiousness unbecoming of a married pastor. The woman has most likely kept silent to protect her reputation/name. The church most likely asked she not speak of it. No one outside of those in the church knows her name. I wonder if she still goes there? This got alot of publicity. I think Matt is very embarrassed. He doesn't want to be seen in the same vein as other pastors who preach one way but get caught in salacious predicaments (John Gray, Eddie Long). This is why so many in the world are repelled by Christianity-the hypocrisy. It's a bad look.
I think the “unguarded” was him convicting himself, not necessarily something he was doing with those conversations but something he saw in himself or felt was wrong. Maybe confiding more in her than his wife or telling her things only he wanted his wife to know. Conviction has a funny way. But if it was honest conversations about faith or the Bible then there wouldn’t be an issue right?
*I'd heard it explained, that it was joking around on texts. She would write something to him in a funny way, and he'd joke something back. No romance, no physical meetups, and I think it was a 'set up" so they could accuse him of wrong-doing, and maybe even destroy his marriage. I'm sure they were hoping for adultery, but it wasn't going there. Matt was targeted by some powerful inner circle people to bring him down. Matt, get out of there and go start your own church!*
What was it really about in those conversations? Doesn't the church have a right to know the just of it? He is leading and mentoring the church. If his frontal lobe is that big of a handicap for him perhaps he should step down and participate in ministry in another way. It's not about vanity. It should be about God's will.
God had mercy on him to reveal it to him so quickly!! Before it got worse and as he humbles himself God has a chance to change his heart.
Don’t know where your confusion is coming from. He simply wasn’t living beyond reproach and God is breaking his heart for what breaks God’s. This is what repentance looks like. You don’t need to cheat on your wife in order to have your heart break over your own sin.
This was my pastor. I am not an Evangelical today because of him.
Can I ask why?
@@brigettemkirkify There are a plethora of reasons, but the one that really made me scratch my head were questionable practices that were permitted during COVID pertaining to communion.
@@johnjelinek3983 I am part of an Evangelical church and we switched to disposable communion cups. We still haven't switched back yet.
@@robertthompson9643 what I witnessed was far more egregious.
If he was involved in an inappropriate relationship- may not have had physical contact but he emotionally did-how about people look what God says- if a man lust after a women, he has already committed adultery - of course, if sincere in His asking God for forgiveness, God is just and faithful to forgive…I personally do not believe he should ever be reinstated in a place of leadership- once a cheater always a cheater! I would never attend that church again if they reinstate him…my personal opinion…
But among you there must not be even a HINT of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.
... but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
The elders arrested that fall somewhere in that slide towards death, probably as Matt was in the process of being dragged away - assuming that what was made public wasn't soiled by any half truths.
When I first came across this story, I only had Todd Bentley's public restoration to go by as a previous example: the bar was set as low as could be because Bentley isn't even of God. So by comparison, Matt's situation was a model of perfection as to how something like this should be handled.
I've since recently seen a sermon by Matt that is steeped in wokeism and do think there are deeper issues that need to be addressed. Perhaps God in His goodness will do just that.
It's easy to get caught up and then things get out of control. You are in disbelief. You knew better. SMH. How can you go to God again? Ask for forgiveness again . 😥🙃🙏💔
Bro…come on now
What a cowardly video to post. This is just gossip fodder, full stop. You want to know how most gossip starts? With phrases like “I’m not saying, I’m
Just saying” (innuendo) and “who am i to say” (false humility), or “ I don’t run to church and I’m not a pastor and I’m not an elder” followed by intention to use a situation for one’s own benefit. Shameful.
The elders and Matt DID give detail on what happened: inappropriate dm’s that included joking about alcohol in a way that a pastor or elder should not.
Major suggestion by NJ is the should have waited until the beginning of the year. He came back on November 28th, so just to be clear the best way to have handled this would have Ben to wait an additional 31 days. Why?
Also “if you’re going to handle things behind closed doors without cameras, then you need to at least provide more detail.” What would more detail look like in this case? Would it be helpful for church members to see the actual DM’s? literally airing personal dirty, laundry and embarrassing everyone involved, including family even more? Absurd.
I don’t attend The Village and don’t know Matt personally, but it looks like he, his family, and the elders of the church handled this perfectly.
If this video is any indication of the kind of content this creator post , here’s an opinion…. Run for the hills.
I have really enjoyed all of your videos except this one. I don't understand the point of this video. All I keep hearing from most everyone is what did he do. Why do we have to know, especially if we don't attend that church? We aren't entitled to know just because the circumstances are vague. It's between Matt and God first and foremost, not us.
Every person on this planet, everyone, is a sinner. That includes people that are held to a higher standard by us, such as a pastor. Satan comes hard at Christians every single day hoping we'll turn our backs on God. Can you imagine how much harder he goes after a man of God whose life is dedicated to bringing people to Christ?
The questioning of how short his time away was a decision made by the elders and, honestly, shouldn't be questioned. There is no timetable in the Bible on how long a pastor should be away based on his sin. Some of us may not agree that it was long enough but, again, we don't go to that church, we don't know the details and we aren't an elder. We don't know what all he had to do to humble himself but, obviously, the elders felt that he had done what was asked of him and they allowed him to come back based on their own faith, judgment and forgiveness. I don't think that should be questioned by any of us. The elders have a huge responsibility to the health of a church. I truly believe the elders wouldn't allow him to return if there was any doubt he could continue to represent the church as a humbled and repentant man of God.
The amount of judgment towards Matt by commenters is disheartening. We all know as Christians that we are not to judge. Only God can do that and Matt, like all of us, will stand before God and account for all of his sins one day. I feel as a Christian that we need to continually look at our own life and make sure our walk with God, not others, is pleasing to Him.
My take on this is the church is under attack big time! Satan smells our weakness and ramping things up!. He knows if he can get to our pastors he can do more damage. We need to be a united front as Church, faithful, grounded in the Word, steadfast and strong.
She's not gonna come out and say ANYTHING. Because they paid her off. He's NOT READY. He will fall AGAIN. I pray NOT. But I feel like he has not been delivered from the demons he let in
You were there when they paid her off? 🤔 .. when you don’t know about a situation don’t make assumptions and say someone has demons etc . What jf you were in his position and fell, and people started saying you have demons .. I wonder how you’d like that
@@anaisbateza2924 So true! Everyone in that congregation could be sinning and it's not made a big deal. But when a pastor (who is still imperfect like everyone else) sins, all of a sudden they have demons in them? SMDH.
Some of y'all need to take 3 months off to take the planks out of your eye... Meanwhile, it would probably be wise to examine the heart, find the pride that causes such cynicism and callousness for others, and take deep rooted sinfulness seriously.
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What an awful excuse that this was related to his brain cancer oh my gosh, give me a break it’s not related that is such a huge excuse which shows you where he’s at he’s guilty of something the same thing happened to my pastor, and it was far worse than what Was told to us the congregation I had to figure it out through talking to several pastoral staff, and even then that was not easy because they don’t want to tell us, but the truth is it’s worse or they would never have been an investigation and he did something unguarded and unwise OK that’s bad so there was some flirting going on that’s what it’s telling me because what’s the definition of sexual that they had sex OK so they didn’t have sex so it’s not sexual? that’s not a great definition, Sexual is also romantic and flirting, so there is probably some flirty, romantic things going on that was inappropriate, and that is emotional cheating, which is not living above approach, and he should have stepped down for a longer time and shown more fruits of repentance which these pastors don’t do. My pastor didn’t do as well. He got right back up after 3 months as well and actually our board secretly put him on leave without telling the church, church and later told us with no apology, no transparency, That’s why I’m no longer there. These pastors, including Matt just love to tell the people how to live their life in the Lord and yet they are not living above reproach, so don’t listen to these people. They are mirror men who have fallen, and they need to no longer be the senior pastor or a pastor, they need to sit down for years. That’s what John Piper said, and other scholarly Pastors when this moral failure has been done.
You most certainly do have a "right frontal lobe" Matt. The fact that you're articulating reasons and coherent logical thought, and doing so while you can physically stand up, is evidence enough that there's a well developed frontal lobe firing off a million neurones per second as you speak to the congregation. Bit disingenuous of you, Mr Chandler. He may have the heart of a pastor but it sounds like he's got the silver tongue of a politician.
He was transparent....go and watch the earlier videos where he confessed to the WHOLE church! I am afraid Nick that it is YOU that has not done enough digging on this subject matter. WHy speak on this when you don't have the full context of what happened?? smh
Matt is so full of self. That guy isn’t worth any believers time.
He said, in the beginning that it was unguarded. He had developed a friendship with somebody of opposite sex that was unguarded, which is unhealthy and asking for trouble. They said, from the beginning it was the frequency of conversations which was not wise. That’s it! Everybody assumes the worse but I believe they said, it perfectly loud and clear that there was nothing romantic, nor sexual, but it was the frequency of conversation that was unguarded and obviously unwise! We don’t need to know their conversations because it doesn’t matter. I think they handled it perfectly. They didn’t even have to do that. I believe they saw the potential for the enemy to creep in and Matt aknowledged that he was unguarded and actually didn’t understand how he allowed himself to be even in that position. His emotions expressed even in this video, obviously his sincerity to the intimacy with God, and how it affects the people. No doubt he has questioned his call because of the weight of his call. I believe this is actually a beautiful model for churches to take note.
This guy and this church has bad vibes. Protecting this guy, making everything so smoke and mirror.
You paused around 9:19 saying “man what did he do”
Maybe you have never been humbled by God, but I personally have been humbled by God. I believe there are times God humbles us or allows us to be humbled to lead us back on the right path. Same as the sheep that has gone astray. And I can see that he still feels shame and guilt for whatever it is that he did. What he did is between him and God and his family and others involved. You don’t have or need to know. I felt shame and guilt that I let so many down. All I want is to make it right. But truthfully we can never make things fully right. And that’s where the Sacrifice of Jesus God comes in… and that is how we are saved. Because otherwise, we are failures. Every single person in this thread, you, every person in that church, and the guy who spoke before Matt all sin gravely every day. Let that sink in. We all need to be saved. Judge not…
Only in America can a man be inappropriate toward a woman and come back the hero.