You have no idea how long I've searched for BTD4 mobile. I tried to find computer downloads to emulate it, but my computer has admin and my dad forgot the password so it doesn't let me play with emulators. I tried to play an APK download of the game but everytime I closed the game it reset all the progress. I EVEN tried finding the Dsi version for it, and when I loaded it onto my emulator it needed me to do something to make the file playable... which I needed my computer which my computer ALSO needed admin to do THAT... My final attempt was reviving my Amazon Kindle because you can buy the game there. I bought the game, played it for a few days. And eventually the game just stopped opening. I checked the reviews and everyone was saying the same thing. I contacted NK about it and they said something about not having the rights to BTD4 anymore... so I'm stuck to using the NK archive version.
Watching you place the dartling gunner anywhere but near the end of the track gives me r/mildlyinfuriating. Me personally, I prefer the dartling gunner near the end of any track because it's able to cleanly shoot any part of a track. It also just looks nice
The mobile version is also the best way to play 4 with the addition of the Honeybear Bee from TD 5, and the HD tablets version looks beautiful... There's no Sandbox Mode in it though
The mobile version definitely looks substantially better, I didn't know it didn't have sandbox mode though. Still worth getting if someone is interested in the game though
7:02 Nah, in BTD6 it'd be "This is a hard game!" Also, indeed, if you forgot how much I mentioned it on streams, ODS is ridiculous here. How to beat the challenge: Tempest tornado + as many ODS as you can.
good question, will edit after watching Edit : Good video, fun watch, i look forward to watching more videos and i hope you will do well with your channel
I enjoyed your gameplay, but I imagine for people that watched the video because of the title, it has to be a little bit frustrating to not get a clear answer. Μy tip would be a short summary at the end of the video where you share the experience with the viewer. But still great video, keep up the good work! ❤
I definitely understand your perspective, I made the mistake of not having a definitive title in mind before starting the video, so it went from "BTD4 Is Harder Than I Remember" to "BTD4 Is Better Than I Remember" and then to the current title. I was hoping people could kind of use the thorough showcasing of my game play to make the call for themselves as well, but again I totally understand what you're saying and I greatly appreciate the feedback as well. I'm still working on getting titles and thumbnails down
spike factories are pretty dang jank in this game. they can only place on path nodes (the points that bloons travel between, including the entrance and exit), and bloons that split a lot or have a lot of HP can relatively easily pass over them. this funnily makes the tower actually significantly dependent on path shape, it's better on curves so that it has more nodes to distribute spikes across.
It's definitely a lot better than I had expected, especially because there is so little content on the game today. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video as well!
Compared to Flash, it's got a lot more maps, an exclusive tower unlockable on a big grind, a lot more challenges, premiums obtainable for free, and Extreme maps, which are locked behind an unaccessible IAP
So happy to see this game getting the support it deserves, thanks for reminding me about BTD4's 15th anniversary. I need to make a note of that for my BTD4 scratch project. XD
I'll definitely have to make an updated Scratch video soon and include your game when it's ready, and it's honestly pretty crazy that the 15th anniversary is just 1 week away because I didn't plan for that at all. Guess I should've waited til next Saturday though lol
@@Phenomix If you would like (because my BTD4 game has premium upgrades just like the original). You can provide me your scratch username and I will unlock them for you. :)
Btd4 mobile is very different from this game. The beekeeper is a tower instead of an agent and it is the only tower besides the beast handler to feature a non-monkey animal(phoenix doesnt count dont even start)
Play BTD4 Expansion Note: There is a mobile version of this game with more content and the Beekeeper guy from BTD5 as a tower Another note: PLAY BATTLE PANIC
I've never heard of battle panic, is that a different tower defense game? And when I checked out the Expansion Pack, it didn't really have any levels I could play because most of them have to be purchased for tokens.
Still useful to try. Just don't go too far into free play unless you want the maps in the mobile ones. Just gold 15 maps and all power ups are yours. DSI doesn't have the dartling gunner though. Ether way 3 ds DSI, PSP and iOS versions. And there's a archive of iOS exclusive stuff. Festive pack of bloons one included.
I was thinking of really old games like the original Super Mario Bros where they only had a few hitboxes to work with, because memory was limited. Obviously Flash is more advanced than 1985 gaming hardware but I just thought maybe the program had some weird limitation when it came to drawing hitboxes lol. I'm not a coder obviously but I'm always happy to learn!
@@Phenomix Rectangle hitboxes of any size are (along with circles) by far the easiest to compute. One can also easily merge multiple hitboxes, but the performance of that is also pretty much an issue of the far past. The game seems to mostly lag because of the overly detailed explosion animations, by the way
Bababooey. Now this’ll get pinned!
I got nothing better to pin ngl lol
Wow
RUclips comments are so cooked
according to a description in btd6 balloons are children's toys & Bloons are evil things that destroy monkeys
That's seriously really funny I never knew it said that in BTD6
Society if Ninja Kiwi released a steam port of BTD4 mobile:
You have no idea how long I've searched for BTD4 mobile. I tried to find computer downloads to emulate it, but my computer has admin and my dad forgot the password so it doesn't let me play with emulators. I tried to play an APK download of the game but everytime I closed the game it reset all the progress. I EVEN tried finding the Dsi version for it, and when I loaded it onto my emulator it needed me to do something to make the file playable... which I needed my computer which my computer ALSO needed admin to do THAT... My final attempt was reviving my Amazon Kindle because you can buy the game there. I bought the game, played it for a few days. And eventually the game just stopped opening. I checked the reviews and everyone was saying the same thing. I contacted NK about it and they said something about not having the rights to BTD4 anymore... so I'm stuck to using the NK archive version.
Watching you place the dartling gunner anywhere but near the end of the track gives me r/mildlyinfuriating. Me personally, I prefer the dartling gunner near the end of any track because it's able to cleanly shoot any part of a track. It also just looks nice
Man you're totally right I would do the same thing in BTD5
I LOVE TD 4, it introduced my beloved Spike Factory and while I wouldn't call it the best one, it's held up pretty well imo
The mobile version is also the best way to play 4 with the addition of the Honeybear Bee from TD 5, and the HD tablets version looks beautiful... There's no Sandbox Mode in it though
The mobile version definitely looks substantially better, I didn't know it didn't have sandbox mode though. Still worth getting if someone is interested in the game though
Yayyy! You played BTD 4! I do wonder if you will play all of the games for challenges 🤔
I'm definitely planning to redo the challenge where I attempt every game with just dart monkeys
ceramics can't be slowed down in BTD5 Flash either! it was BTD5 Mobile that introduced that buff to glue.
I never realized that even when I was playing the Flash Version back in April, I guess I didn't use the glue gunner at all
7:02 Nah, in BTD6 it'd be "This is a hard game!"
Also, indeed, if you forgot how much I mentioned it on streams, ODS is ridiculous here. How to beat the challenge: Tempest tornado + as many ODS as you can.
Dang so ODS is good enough for MOAB damage too, that is really insane ngl. I definitely have a lot to learn still
good question, will edit after watching
Edit : Good video, fun watch, i look forward to watching more videos and i hope you will do well with your channel
I'll edit my reply after you edit your comment then haha
I will not edit my comment
@@Phenomixhere you go as a reminder
remindr@@Phenomix
I used to play btd4 in school a lot, i agree btd5 is better but 4 is still a good option if you have nothing else!
100%, it's still a lot of fun and provides a great challenge!
btd4 is my childhood memory of BTD series. I played to round 83 until flash player crashes.lmao
I feel like I kind of skipped from BTD3 to BTD5 because I don't have too many memories with the 4th game, but it was a lot of fun to revisit for sure!
I feel the same way about BTD 2. I think I skipped to 3
I enjoyed your gameplay, but I imagine for people that watched the video because of the title, it has to be a little bit frustrating to not get a clear answer.
Μy tip would be a short summary at the end of the video where you share the experience with the viewer.
But still great video,
keep up the good work! ❤
I definitely understand your perspective, I made the mistake of not having a definitive title in mind before starting the video, so it went from "BTD4 Is Harder Than I Remember" to "BTD4 Is Better Than I Remember" and then to the current title. I was hoping people could kind of use the thorough showcasing of my game play to make the call for themselves as well, but again I totally understand what you're saying and I greatly appreciate the feedback as well. I'm still working on getting titles and thumbnails down
my intro to the series, I remember seeing btd5 and going 'btd4 is definitely better' before playing it, then doing the same for 6 lol
I might be one of the few people who keeps sticking to BTD5 even though I know the 6th one is better
I was so mad BTD4 only had one upgrade path I didn’t really play it at first but I think it’s better than 3 now
If you go onto btd5, it tells you to play btd6.
They want you to stay up-to-date
Yeah I just thought it would be funny to point out but you're right of course
spike factories are pretty dang jank in this game. they can only place on path nodes (the points that bloons travel between, including the entrance and exit), and bloons that split a lot or have a lot of HP can relatively easily pass over them. this funnily makes the tower actually significantly dependent on path shape, it's better on curves so that it has more nodes to distribute spikes across.
I didn't know bloons could also slip by them, but I definitely noticed the part about specific nodes cause it was throwing me off lol.
Really good deep dive on the 4th game, I never played that one but is a really decent game after all
It's definitely a lot better than I had expected, especially because there is so little content on the game today. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video as well!
The btd4 soundtrack is honestly a banger. Better than btd5 imo(except Jazz theme)
It's definitely one of the best BTD songs imo as well
Since BTD4 has now been tackled, is there any chance to visit the Mobile variant too?
Is the difference significant enough to make a separate video on that version? Also I don't think I can get it since I use Android
Compared to Flash, it's got a lot more maps, an exclusive tower unlockable on a big grind, a lot more challenges, premiums obtainable for free, and Extreme maps, which are locked behind an unaccessible IAP
@@PhenomixI have a link for btd4 movile, but it might not be compatible with your phone.
It's too outdated, monkey city is free as well as battles 1 and 2, you should do those instead
That's definitely a fair point! BTD5 is also free as the flash version in the Archive, I actually played that for a month before getting it on Steam
Btw u can beat the whole game with just road spikes and dart monkeys
I've definitely gotta update my video where I attempted to beat every BTD with just dart monkeys, I think I could most likely pull it off now
No way I got feature in a video!!!
I appreciate you suggesting I play!
great job
ipod touch classic back when we would be at restaurants with the fam
Yeah it was always a go-to in those scenarios
1:36 so banana farms used to work like Benjamin in btd6
So happy to see this game getting the support it deserves, thanks for reminding me about BTD4's 15th anniversary. I need to make a note of that for my BTD4 scratch project. XD
I'll definitely have to make an updated Scratch video soon and include your game when it's ready, and it's honestly pretty crazy that the 15th anniversary is just 1 week away because I didn't plan for that at all. Guess I should've waited til next Saturday though lol
@@Phenomix I see, can't wait for the video! :D
@@Phenomix If you would like (because my BTD4 game has premium upgrades just like the original). You can provide me your scratch username and I will unlock them for you. :)
Btd4 mobile is very different from this game. The beekeeper is a tower instead of an agent and it is the only tower besides the beast handler to feature a non-monkey animal(phoenix doesnt count dont even start)
Yeah it's a shame you can't play the mobile version on Android anymore
BTD4 is the first game that has a passive and active ability!
That's a great point, BTD4 really did introduce a lot of the things we enjoy in modern BTD
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YO! I'm in the video? Awesome... anways are you ever gonna do bloons td battles 1-2 content?
I'm definitely thinking of doing a Battles 1 video soon, but I'll probably post a couple BTD6 videos before venturing into Battles 2
@@Phenomix interesting... thank you for responding dude.
Play BTD4 Expansion
Note: There is a mobile version of this game with more content and the Beekeeper guy from BTD5 as a tower
Another note: PLAY BATTLE PANIC
I've never heard of battle panic, is that a different tower defense game? And when I checked out the Expansion Pack, it didn't really have any levels I could play because most of them have to be purchased for tokens.
@@Phenomix It's a Ninja Kiwi strategy game, its in the Archive.
@@Phenomix The Monkey Temple level is a blast
@@Phenomix The Monkey Temple map is the best one
The mobile version has the beekeeper so yes
You know it is
Definitely!
the moment i subscribed an ad appeared
I'll check out the ad placements and see if one got put in that spot of the video
There's 3 mobile versions iOS, android (discontinued early like 5s deluxe) and hd does dsi or 3ds count. Ether way has the exclusive bee keeper tower
I forgot there was a DS Port of BTD4, I wonder if I'd ever be able to access the files for that and emulate it sometime
BTD4 DSi is fucking _awful_ lmao. if you get a hold of it, expect it to lag a ton and sometimes even crash, it does that even on official hardware.
Still useful to try. Just don't go too far into free play unless you want the maps in the mobile ones.
Just gold 15 maps and all power ups are yours. DSI doesn't have the dartling gunner though.
Ether way 3 ds DSI, PSP and iOS versions. And there's a archive of iOS exclusive stuff. Festive pack of bloons one included.
In my opinion no
Hey that's fair, I know BTD6 has improved on everything
btd4 is insanely dificult
I definitely agree
2:43 uh... no? Why the frick would flash be limited to only check for hitbox of a certain size? That makes no sense bro
3:30 Thats also normal, nothing unique to btd4
I was thinking of really old games like the original Super Mario Bros where they only had a few hitboxes to work with, because memory was limited. Obviously Flash is more advanced than 1985 gaming hardware but I just thought maybe the program had some weird limitation when it came to drawing hitboxes lol. I'm not a coder obviously but I'm always happy to learn!
@@Phenomix Rectangle hitboxes of any size are (along with circles) by far the easiest to compute. One can also easily merge multiple hitboxes, but the performance of that is also pretty much an issue of the far past. The game seems to mostly lag because of the overly detailed explosion animations, by the way
Perchance
Dang im early
Yessir 🙏
i wonder why its 'baloons' and not balloons
according to a description in btd6 balloons are children's toys & Bloons are evil things that destroy monkeys
@@marjorieludwig3939 😭
W video
Aye thank you bro