Most of the current museum ships are in danger. Wheres the berthing space going to come from, or the funding to maintain her. Many museum ships across the US have been scrapped in the past few years, due to dwindling interest and lack of upkeep. Many more are in danger. So What ship or ships currently preserved do you want to torch and destroy to save another?
@@lenking410 I hear tell the Valley Camp is in pretty rough shape. Or at least that was the case several years ago. I forget how many millions wasn't spent on the hull of the USS Yorktown a few years back...and THAT was just barely enough to patch her up to where the bilge pumps could keep up!
This boat sat in a dock in green bay for years. Delivered asphalt next door and think I saw it out of the slip twice. One was for the trip to this scrap yard. Was still used as a powder holder for La farge until they built a holding silo
I grew up here and spent my childhood exploring these old ships. Once the reclaimed a WW2 landing craft from the lake bottom and myself and friends went through it.
Interesting how the breakers yard has used the wheelhouse of formers ships scrapped for office and staff building ashore. Both of those large ships look like they were built in the period 1910-1930 era? Great video, most enjoyable.
@@1940limited I don't really follow them, prefer ocean going ships but the video caught my eye, strange American thing, big round bow and wheel house right at the front where ocean going bulkers have bridge at the aft end and more contoured bows.
The following wheelhouses are still in the yard - 𝘑𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘕𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘪𝘴, 𝘘𝘶𝘦𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘪𝘴, 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘥𝘦, 𝘑𝘢𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘯 (𝘊𝘢𝘱𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘑𝘰𝘩𝘯𝘴), 𝘊𝘢𝘭𝘶𝘮𝘦𝘵, 𝘚.𝘛. 𝘊𝘳𝘢𝘱𝘰, 𝘔𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘦, 𝘌𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘩 𝘙𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳, 𝘈𝘭𝘨𝘰𝘴𝘢𝘳, 𝘗𝘢𝘶𝘭 𝘏. 𝘛𝘰𝘸𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥. The 𝘖𝘫𝘪𝘣𝘸𝘢𝘺 and 𝘓𝘶𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘯 𝘓. (Ferry) wheelhouses were purchased and removed from site.
It's worse when you actually see a ship being scrapped after having seen her just a little while before as a living, breathing creature of the sea, or Lakes in this case. When I see the heavy equipment and torches at work I'm reminded of buzzards or vultures tearing her apart.
I loved that Neil. Such giant marvels of human endeavor that are sent for scrap after so few years of service just like so many buildings and other works and dreams. I had no idea that this was right in our back yard.
Some ships rest on the ocean floor...some come to the scrap yard. They are soldiers who fought the good fight...now they make way for ships with technology and materials that make them superior. God bless those who put out to sea. I keep you all in my prayers. I wish you calm seas and good fortune 🌹⚓
I snuck aboard the Crapo in Alpena back in the late '90s and poked around in the engine room a bit. I was working on the Myron C Taylor at the time. Yet another classic Laker that is no longer with us. We were there unloading stone.
I've been in the grain elevators across the canal and seen the MRC. A fascinating place and I'm glad I don't work there. At the time, they had rolled the one ship on land using huge inflatable rollers. A piece of Captain John's boat the Jadran was still there.
Some people say, they're just steel and iron. I say yes, but they have a heart and soul. Their engines are the heart and the crews the soul. The lives that were lived on them, the cargo they carried that affect people's lives across the world, not just North America. It's heart breaking to see.
Great video! It really stinks that a grand ship such as she has the word scrapped attached to her. Recycled sounds more dignified. No reflection on you. Thanx for sharing the video.
I like what they say on their website: "MRC believes that all vessels should be treated with respect at the end of their working lives, after lengthy careers safely carrying cargoes and crews. We believe that all vessels should be recycled properly, without negative environmental impact or unnecessary safety risks."
Incredible detail. Looks like a cold and dreary day in an unsentimental business. Not a soul around. Was it a holiday or weekend? Are the wheel houses saved intact for some other purpose. I see a lot of them sitting on the ground. Maybe they make good office buildings. Looks like a huge operation, but nothing going on.
I just watched a different video where the owner of the yard mentioned that a wheelhouse they just took off was to become someone’s house. So I guess you can buy them
This is strictly as scrap yard. You might be thinking of the old Port Weller Dry Docks on the North end of the Welland Canal, now owned by Heddle Marine of Hamilton. They do ship repair for now, maybe down the road we will see new builds.
To be sold as cottages and so forth. The entire bow house of a Ford freighter is now a house on a cliff in Ohio. I've seen an artilce about it, its still outfitted like it was an active ship and it was pretty luxurious as Henry Ford travelled on it.
That ship was scrapped with the exception of part of the wheelhouse. That was the MS Jadran, better known as Captain John's Seafood restaurant in Toronto.
They pull the ship right up to an incline on the shore, rig a towing bridle to the hull at the bow and use a heavy winch and cable or chain to slide her up onto the shore until she's well out of the water. The tow bridle is still in place on the S.T. Crapo.
😭😭 Isn't there something that can be done to save this sailing piece of history ! It's sad no it's not sad it's disgusting shame on you Canada for not saving her for a museum ! Shame on you United States for the same ! It blows watching history be destroyed one ship at a time.
How about we build ships with more class? Bring back the classic steamer look. The amount of rear house ships i see is depressing. The shipping industries have no pride anymore.
For sure, better than overseas where the workers are abused. It seems after the Canadian Miner washed up onshore and had to be scrap on the remote Island, the days long ocean tows to overseas breakers pretty much end.
Man I don’t get why people are so pressed in the comments. Oh well who cares. As sad as it is to see these beautiful ships become obsolete and get cut up, I would really enjoy walking around and exploring their bone yard and see what relics they have lying around. Maybe I’ll try my hand at the lottery and see how much they want for the Ojibway’s pilothouse haha. Thanks for posting
I've been in some "old school" auto salvage yards that were just as interesting as a trip to any museum, if not more so! I would also love the opportunity to wander around in here. Same goes for Purvis up in The Soo.
You're welcome, they used to have a day in October where a gathering would happen and you could roam the grounds. That was 20 years ago and times have changed.
They have a museum ship , in Cleveland close to The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame .More of these ships could be used as attractions and perhaps converted into hotels , apts and affordable housing .
Daniel 12:4 in the time of the end......1 John 2:17 the world (social order) pass-through away.....as God declared before, this type of order would not remain forever. He has planned many blessings for everyone after, certain lessons are learned. Natural resources supplies are not infinite Isaiah 24:5. Ephesians 1:10*,11
What a waste of beautiful land. People take what they want and just leave all their crap. Even if they were to recycle the metal I'm sure the soil would be toxic. Then there's all the concrete. What a shame.
Before this was a scrap yard, there was a Algoma Steel facility occupying these lands so I'd say this was a good spot for this operation. The good news is Marine Recycling Corp. is one of the few operations that meets all modern regulations.
@@neilwalsh87 Well, true enough 😁 for about 2 minutes. Then I started fast forwarding through the rest for 30 seconds or so. The bad part for your algorithm is that I won't be tempted to ever watch another with your name on it.
@@neilwalsh87 My input is practice, practice, practice making and presenting content. Then make another attempt. It can't be as bad as this is. If it is, go sell used cars.That takes almost no talent.
I pray this NEVER happens to he Arthur M. Anderson. She deserves a place of honor.
I hope she will become a museum ship. She must not be scrapped. Historic vessel.
Most of the current museum ships are in danger.
Wheres the berthing space going to come from, or the funding to maintain her.
Many museum ships across the US have been scrapped in the past few years, due to dwindling interest and lack of upkeep.
Many more are in danger.
So
What ship or ships currently preserved do you want to torch and destroy to save another?
@@lenking410 I hear tell the Valley Camp is in pretty rough shape. Or at least that was the case several years ago.
I forget how many millions wasn't spent on the hull of the USS Yorktown a few years back...and THAT was just barely enough to patch her up to where the bilge pumps could keep up!
@@lenking410I'll live inside the Anderson and keep her clean!
Who’s gonna pay for it?
This boat sat in a dock in green bay for years. Delivered asphalt next door and think I saw it out of the slip twice. One was for the trip to this scrap yard. Was still used as a powder holder for La farge until they built a holding silo
I'd imagine someone from the head office, I'd doubt many make it to this yard with bells, builders plates or wheels.
I grew up here and spent my childhood exploring these old ships. Once the reclaimed a WW2 landing craft from the lake bottom and myself and friends went through it.
Interesting how the breakers yard has used the wheelhouse of formers ships scrapped for office and staff building ashore. Both of those large ships look like they were built in the period 1910-1930 era? Great video, most enjoyable.
I noticed that, about the wheelhouses, too but have no idea when the ships were built. I never knew Great Lakes cargo ships had such a following.
@@1940limited I don't really follow them, prefer ocean going ships but the video caught my eye, strange American thing, big round bow and wheel house right at the front where ocean going bulkers have bridge at the aft end and more contoured bows.
The Crapo is 90-something.
You can buy the deckhouses and bridges from them (along with anything else), people use them as cabins and mancaves.
The following wheelhouses are still in the yard - 𝘑𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘕𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘪𝘴, 𝘘𝘶𝘦𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘪𝘴, 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘥𝘦, 𝘑𝘢𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘯 (𝘊𝘢𝘱𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘑𝘰𝘩𝘯𝘴), 𝘊𝘢𝘭𝘶𝘮𝘦𝘵, 𝘚.𝘛. 𝘊𝘳𝘢𝘱𝘰, 𝘔𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘦, 𝘌𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘩 𝘙𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳, 𝘈𝘭𝘨𝘰𝘴𝘢𝘳, 𝘗𝘢𝘶𝘭 𝘏. 𝘛𝘰𝘸𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥. The 𝘖𝘫𝘪𝘣𝘸𝘢𝘺 and 𝘓𝘶𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘯 𝘓. (Ferry) wheelhouses were purchased and removed from site.
Love these old school long ships... Sucks to see them being scrapped
Yeah a real shame.
@@neilwalsh87 Any chance for updated flyover? I hear only the engine room area is left to be scrapped?
Better to be recycled than left to rot and rust away. To me, that would be a far worse and sadder fate. Just my opinion.
This is like attending a funeral.
It's worse when you actually see a ship being scrapped after having seen her just a little while before as a living, breathing creature of the sea, or Lakes in this case.
When I see the heavy equipment and torches at work I'm reminded of buzzards or vultures tearing her apart.
RIP The great ST Crapo, may her legacy live long! RIP Manistee as well, we will miss your gray hull upon these waters.
How old was the Crapo?
@@1940limited 96 years old. Launched in 1927.
@@nssrrailfan Thanks for that information. It seems as if it had a good, long life.
I have a few pics of the Manistee from about 4 years ago when she was still tied up in Toledo.
The seven people who have disliked this have no soul.
Most likely the ones who did expected some sort of Hollywood quality video.
@@neilwalsh87more like ignorant anticapitalist socialists zombies
About 96 years old,,,amazing ship🙏🏽❤️
Made it through some tough times!
I loved that Neil. Such giant marvels of human endeavor that are sent for scrap after so few years of service just like so many buildings and other works and dreams. I had no idea that this was right in our back yard.
Some ships rest on the ocean floor...some come to the scrap yard. They are soldiers who fought the good fight...now they make way for ships with technology and materials that make them superior. God bless those who put out to sea. I keep you all in my prayers. I wish you calm seas and good fortune 🌹⚓
ST Crapo and EM Ford... Last of the Reciprocating steam powered Lakers. What an absolute shame
For sure, would be something to see just the engine on display.
Great footage! thanks for the video.
You're welcome!
I snuck aboard the Crapo in Alpena back in the late '90s and poked around in the engine room a bit. I was working on the Myron C Taylor at the time. Yet another classic Laker that is no longer with us. We were there unloading stone.
Both met the end in Port Colborne.
The crapo must be pretty old, I see they have backup steering in the stern outside I think that's what that is.
Yes, emergency steering.
From 1927 I think.
@@BigLisaFan yes 1927. Great Lakes Engineering Works in Michigan.
I've been in the grain elevators across the canal and seen the MRC. A fascinating place and I'm glad I don't work there. At the time, they had rolled the one ship on land using huge inflatable rollers. A piece of Captain John's boat the Jadran was still there.
@@OscarLimaMike I was only there to inspect the boilers and air tanks. I imagine that in the winter it was one frickin cold place!
Yeah I've only been there for the drone flight but yeah you could really feel that Lake Erie wind.
Its gonna be sad to watch crapo get scrapped. wish i could see her.
It will be
We're heading up there today, to pay our last respects. So sad! Thanks for the great video!
You're welcome!
Thanks Neil. Enjoyed it! 👍
You're welcome!
Be very interesting to see sometime to seeing them actually beaching the boat. Just some food for thought.
Yeah that would be better but I was just passing through.
I sure hope they keep the pilot houses of those beautiful old boats. They sure make beautiful homes.
As of a few months ago the pilothouse was on the ground intact.
Ah, damn, the Manistee is there! Beautiful video, but that sucks, she was a favorite.
Some people say, they're just steel and iron. I say yes, but they have a heart and soul. Their engines are the heart and the crews the soul. The lives that were lived on them, the cargo they carried that affect people's lives across the world, not just North America. It's heart breaking to see.
it would have been great to see the st Crapo become a museum ship oh well
The breaker was hoping for it as well but no one had space or the funds.
Great video! It really stinks that a grand ship such as she has the word scrapped attached to her. Recycled sounds more dignified. No reflection on you. Thanx for sharing the video.
Thanks! At least these ships are being cut up by a company that follows modern regulations and cares for employees,
I like what they say on their website: "MRC believes that all vessels should be treated with respect at the end of their working lives, after lengthy careers safely carrying cargoes and crews. We believe that all vessels should be recycled properly, without negative environmental impact or unnecessary safety risks."
Now that's the perfect attitude and company! Thank you again!
Time stands still for no one.Let them go gracefully memories keep forever. Amen...
Rather than see ships scrapped, i wish they would use them for restaurants and dance halls
Incredible detail. Looks like a cold and dreary day in an unsentimental business. Not a soul around. Was it a holiday or weekend? Are the wheel houses saved intact for some other purpose. I see a lot of them sitting on the ground. Maybe they make good office buildings. Looks like a huge operation, but nothing going on.
I just watched a different video where the owner of the yard mentioned that a wheelhouse they just took off was to become someone’s house. So I guess you can buy them
This was on a weekend when nobody is working in the yard. Yeah the wheelhouses of some vessels are saved.
Almost a hundred years old, that's a good long run for a person or a ship !
I think Arthur M Anderson will be saved. She’s historic for being the last ship in contact with the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Lots of money and time required to save such a large ship, maybe the pilothouse might be a more feasible option, time will tell.
@@neilwalsh87Maybe incorporate it with the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point.
I thought they did build but I could be mistaken a older style ship a few years back I think a 700+ ft
This is strictly as scrap yard. You might be thinking of the old Port Weller Dry Docks on the North end of the Welland Canal, now owned by Heddle Marine of Hamilton. They do ship repair for now, maybe down the road we will see new builds.
You think they'll let anybody come over and Salvage or buy stuff from the ship's for preservation
Everything has a price!
Looks like Ojibway is gone now,st Clair is almost gone
The wheelhouse of the Ojibway and some other smaller items are left.
@@neilwalsh87 yes, I seen that
Didn't St Clair have an internal fire?
@@mikekatemaurer7349 correct
I am new to this channel. How do they move the ship on to the shore?
Why are they keeping the bridges of wrecked ships?
To be sold as cottages and so forth. The entire bow house of a Ford freighter is now a house on a cliff in Ohio. I've seen an artilce about it, its still outfitted like it was an active ship and it was pretty luxurious as Henry Ford travelled on it.
@@lawrencelewis2592 I wonder how they transport such a thing.
@@1940limited On a barge with a large crane. You can probably find it on line. It's impressive!
They've also used an I-beam system with rollers the slide the wheelhouses off the barge onto the foundation.
Just thinking of the history and the people who worked on them over the years. It's sad they have to be scrapped! ⚓
Lots of memories for some.
The current google satellite view shows what looks to be a cruise ship but I'm sure that view is old.
That ship was scrapped with the exception of part of the wheelhouse. That was the MS Jadran, better known as Captain John's Seafood restaurant in Toronto.
Hiw do they get them out of the water?
They pull the ship right up to an incline on the shore, rig a towing bridle to the hull at the bow and use a heavy winch and cable or chain to slide her up onto the shore until she's well out of the water. The tow bridle is still in place on the S.T. Crapo.
@@robertf3479 They also use inflatable rollers under the ship. I've seen them the last time I was there last fall. It was an incredible sight.
@@lawrencelewis2592 That makes a great deal of sense, I don't know why I didn't remember that so I stand corrected.
Thank you very much.
Tragic, soon the lakes will be all ATB's and it won't be the same.
How do they drag those ships onto the dry land?
They use inflated roller bags and hydraulic pullers.
😭😭 Isn't there something that can be done to save this sailing piece of history ! It's sad no it's not sad it's disgusting shame on you Canada for not saving her for a museum ! Shame on you United States for the same ! It blows watching history be destroyed one ship at a time.
unfortunately you can't save all of them.
What's with the collection of pilothouses?
Some people purchase them for homes/cottages the others are used for storage.
How about we build ships with more class? Bring back the classic steamer look. The amount of rear house ships i see is depressing. The shipping industries have no pride anymore.
While they looks better, those designs were due to the times.
Nothing has pride anymore!
Algoma and CSL keeps the place busy !
For sure, better than overseas where the workers are abused. It seems after the Canadian Miner washed up onshore and had to be scrap on the remote Island, the days long ocean tows to overseas breakers pretty much end.
Man I don’t get why people are so pressed in the comments. Oh well who cares.
As sad as it is to see these beautiful ships become obsolete and get cut up, I would really enjoy walking around and exploring their bone yard and see what relics they have lying around. Maybe I’ll try my hand at the lottery and see how much they want for the Ojibway’s pilothouse haha. Thanks for posting
I've been in some "old school" auto salvage yards that were just as interesting as a trip to any museum, if not more so! I would also love the opportunity to wander around in here. Same goes for Purvis up in The Soo.
You're welcome, they used to have a day in October where a gathering would happen and you could roam the grounds. That was 20 years ago and times have changed.
is this assessable for photos??
Not on foot unless you have business with them and permission to do so on their grounds.
Who gets to keep the ship's bell?
They have a museum ship , in Cleveland close to The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame .More of these ships could be used as attractions and perhaps converted into hotels , apts and affordable housing .
There was a plan to convert the holds of the Seaway Queen into an aquarium years ago but that fell through.
I know every ship has its last voyage but I wish it hadn’t happened to those two beautiful Lakers.
They got wheel houses like trophies
Indeed.
How do they get the big boats out of the water
They use a hydraulic powered chain puller and roller bags inflated underneath.
@@neilwalsh87 Thanks for the reply I always wondered how they did that
they could turn them into places to live in ??
I believe one of the Ford ships pilot house became a cottage. Its a great idea. Not sure of the cost tho.
The 𝘉𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘍𝘰𝘳𝘥 and 𝘓𝘦𝘸𝘪𝘴 𝘎. 𝘏𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘯 are two examples of ships turned into homes/cottages.
Luv to buy the wheel house.
Everything is for sale for the right price.
Go back when they're actually doing something.
I'm assuming it was a holiday or weekend? Eerily silent.
It was a weekend so I'm not flying around causing distractions,
😢❤
at least save the wheelhouse and whistle
Crapo had one of THE best sounding whistles, too! Looks as though it had already been removed? Hopefully it got saved.
awesome
can i have one
So, the SS Crapo has crapod.............
Daniel 12:4 in the time of the end......1 John 2:17 the world (social order) pass-through away.....as God declared before, this type of order would not remain forever. He has planned many blessings for everyone after, certain lessons are learned. Natural resources supplies are not infinite Isaiah 24:5. Ephesians 1:10*,11
What a waste of beautiful land.
People take what they want and just leave all their crap.
Even if they were to recycle the metal I'm sure the soil would be toxic.
Then there's all the concrete. What a shame.
Before this was a scrap yard, there was a Algoma Steel facility occupying these lands so I'd say this was a good spot for this operation. The good news is Marine Recycling Corp. is one of the few operations that meets all modern regulations.
How sad!
this video is living proof that the music can ruin your video
Fairly Desolate looking place
Yes, but a nice little strip exists on the other side with older storefronts.
Very sad
Tried to resist. Crapo is scrapo. The overly long video of the same thing over and over is crapo.
Made you watch it. Haha
@@neilwalsh87 Well, true enough 😁 for about 2 minutes. Then I started fast forwarding through the rest for 30 seconds or so. The bad part for your algorithm is that I won't be tempted to ever watch another with your name on it.
That's fine, I will sleep just fine. I will however take input for the ndxt one. Thanks.
@@neilwalsh87 My input is practice, practice, practice making and presenting content. Then make another attempt. It can't be as bad as this is. If it is, go sell used cars.That takes almost no talent.
Then don't watch, pretty sure just trolling.
Awful music. Couldn’t stay to watch it.
I thought the music was quite appropriate.
Music was perfect
Turn the sound off if you don't like it.
Next time how about some gangster rap?
Could have been interesting if they were actually doing something, but as it is, the name on that Ship fir the bill...CRAP! Wasn't worth my time
Yet you watched the video, go play in traffic.
@@neilwalsh87 I was hoping it would show something interesting eventually, but given you are a crappy film maker that would be expecting way to much!!
@@hughroney6342 I feel like the interesting part was the video.
@@ShipNerd1 And that says nothing! Just like nothing going on in the video
@@hughroney6342 I feel like seeing Crapo in her last days fully intact was something