They were given a lot more synth, probably to fit in with the cyborg theme... Or to give them even more energy. Still, they're great tracks on their own. If I had to guess, some fo them were made without an explicit purpose, like Red Sun and Stains of Time, and were later adapted to be the boss themes of Desperado cyborgs.
Yes! That is definitely one thing i would change with all music, have the instrument and the static be evened up as much as locked and loaded was. Making it seem more cool and less too futuristic.
@@jchristopherson YOOOOO, THE DUDE HIMSELF! Just a question, why don’t the beta versions of The Stains of Time and Red Sun have vocals? And who were some of the singers in the beta songs?
My ratings of each version: 0:00 - LOCKED AND LOADED - The instrumental somehow hits harder than Rules Of Nature’s instrumental and the singing’s good, but the lyrics don’t hit for me. Either way, this is an 11/10. 3:21 - I’M MY OWN MASTER NOW - Isn’t this kinda already a part in the actual song? Whatever. 8/10. 3:44 - HERE I COME/A STRANGER I REMAIN - I didn’t even know it had an intro like A Stranger I Remain because every version of it I’ve been able to find on RUclips skips it. The singer’s okay, but it immediately becomes god-tier once the retail’s chorus kicks in. 9/10. 8:51 - THE STAINS OF TIME - No vocals, but this is pretty good either way. Wait, what if they used this and an instrumental for Here I Come for the body doubles of Mistral and Monsoon? 10/10. 11:16 - RED SUN - It’s on the same level of the retail version and I like the build up to the chorus better than the retail version. The retail version’s build up was good, but somewhat about the beta’s build up hits harder. 10/10. 13:29 - THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL - The instrumental hits way harder and sounds like Sam’s done joking around. Maybe it could’ve been good for the third phase of Sam’s boss fight. But the vocals sound like Demoman’s singing them and it sounds weird. The vocals do get better in the chorus, so that’s good! 10/10. (Wonder if Tyson Yen’ll ever do a cover of this version.) 15:36 - COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS - Feels so much more aggressive than the retail version, but I hate how the vocals are in a completely different key from the instrumental. I actually prefer the retail version because it fits the vibe of fighting a huge mechanical beast way better. 8/10. 18:09 - IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY - It feels way less climactic than the retail version, but I guess that’s just because the retail IHTBTW is hard to top. 4/10. 21:05 - CUT YOU DOWN TO SIZE - I can barely understand the singer. Either way, 7/10.
A lot of people here seem to want the beta version of The Hot Wind Blowing, but it sadly may not exist. You have to remember that the DLC was released after the final release, meaning that the version we have now is probably the same as the beta.
@@BeachioSandschannel considering the fact that the songs you hear here are extracted directly from the leftover files of the demo in the game, and khamsin had not been created yet during development of the demo, it is pretty much confirmed to not exist. he was originally going to be the boss of mexico, however was cut from the game before he even reached the design phase (which was pre-demo, so no theme for him). only after the main game was released and they had already figured out what type of music they were going for was he was revived and designed specifically for the wolf dlc. i'd say jamie (composer of mgr's music, if you didn't know) has early versions of the song, but i don't think it'd be anything like these. it'd probably be a barebones version of what we currently have, with synths and no change in lyrics or vocals. but still, i'm unsure if he'd release it, since he may not even have the files anymore
I knew about all the other songs except for the last one. I love your videos and really appreciate you finding ways to somehow bring be new content from an old game! Thanks fatty cat!
Lyrics: Locked and Loaded: Locked and Loaded! Let the mercury rise on up And it boils in my blood (Alright, I swear I'll) Tear at the seams 'til you come undone I take it all - I take it all in and I I save it up - I save it all for the fight I feel a heat The temperature rising I'll make you bleed! (yell) Locked and Loaded! Here I come (A stranger I remain 2012 - early version): I've come here to save you And I can already taste the kill Like caressing an angel Burning up in the atmosphere And with the blood of a dying star above My true aesthetic's unwinding And I'm about to come undone So don't let me become the one you love 'Cause I'll just take your blood and use you up I know it's tempting to jump off the edge and fly But this is not a dream So don't let me become the one you love Here I come Here I come Collective Consciousness (Early Version): The unenlightened masses They cannot make the judgement call Give up free will forever, their voices won’t be heard at all Display obedience While never stepping out of line And blindly swear allegiance Let your country control your mind (Let your country control your soul) Live in ignorance And purchase your happiness When blood and sweat is the real cost Thinking ceases, the truth is lost Don’t you worry You’ll be told exactly what to do I give my people the lives they need The righteous will succeed The fires will burn in their defeat The human heart is obsolete Breaking down the fabric of society Collective consciousness controlled as you will see Let your country control your soul Let your country control your soul Let your country control your soul Let your country control your soul Cut You Down To Size (Dark Skies 2012 - Early Version): It boiled, over-seething You're mine, I'll cut you down to size We all fall down, where I'll cut you down to size It's in my hairs, my head, my nails, my teeth It's under their feet Embrace your fate, I just erase I rain it down, I kicked all the floodgates out Oh no, I so see them crawl My sights are set on you, and you're undoubtedly Mine, there's no way out now Now wave on your way down Cut, way down
The beta Stains Of Time is genuinely amazing and probably even better than the final version. It's a shame there's no lyrics for it as the final lyrics just don't fit with the beat.
14:25 The final part of the song is obviously excellent, but this moment is absolutely brilliant and the vocals fit perfectly here. Unfortunately, the vocals at the beginning are very bad
I've heard people use the beta versions in remixes before and I was always curious to see a compilation like this! thanks for putting it together! also Idc what people say, I actually like the opening vocals in OTIKFR. I prefer the official version but I don't dislike the beta! the "losing my identity" part also goes hard
@@idonteveniowanymothere are some videos that combine the current jsam theme and the beta one, basically putting the current singer and the old song, i think searching "The only i thing i know for real current + beta" should do the work
there is an alternate reality where these were these are the versions of the songs in the final release and they got an equally as epic metal gear rising.
All of these vocals are a bit shaky, but I think collective consciousness with its "high pitched" vocals, immediatly ignites a pretty uncomfortable and sinister feeling. But still its better that all of these vocals got replaced with the newers ones.
I love how many beta versions, especially visible in Mistral and Sam, incorporate like 30 styles and instruments throught its course, basically telling devs "We can play it any of those ways for it to sound good, now grab this musical lego and pick and choose whatever you like". Also, love the "Here I come" part of Mistral, shame they chose one Vamp was enough and decided to keep only "Stranger I Remain" part.
Opinions on the vocals: Here I come : Interesting how its a darker rendition of A Stranger I Remain. Sounds a little forced but still interesting. 5/10 The Only Thing I Know For Real : Starts very shaky and a little weird, but the chorus is RAW. Really well done after that point, you can tell theres a lot of emotion put into it. 9/10 Collective Consciousness : Starts off sounding weird as well, but gets better. Slight lyric change is also interesting. 6/10 It Has To Be This Way : What happened here?? It sounds like a purposely bad dub. However, the bloostained sand part was decent. 1/10 Cut You Down To Size : Pretty enjoyable to be honest. Not much to say really. 7/10
Thank you kindly! I had a lot of fun making them, means a lot to me! :D Here, I put them all up for download here - app.mediafire.com/ybcx4av29folb You can also find all of them on my DeviantArt page - www.deviantart.com/arcticicy
They are exactly the same. The instrumental is much different though, and then there's the even older version of her track, that seems to be incomplete. So most people just tied the 2 together.
@@KoraAzure "Here I Come" is the older version of the song. It seems the second half of the song is outright missing. Most people tend to merge it with the early version of a stranger I remain though.
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I love how every soundtrack in the beta version were a lot more focused on the instruments sounds, it's much more rock than the final release
They were given a lot more synth, probably to fit in with the cyborg theme... Or to give them even more energy. Still, they're great tracks on their own. If I had to guess, some fo them were made without an explicit purpose, like Red Sun and Stains of Time, and were later adapted to be the boss themes of Desperado cyborgs.
The reason why they remade the songs is to make them fit in with the lore, cause the themes explain the character, like jetstream sam, or monsoon
@@qwertyram4598I like this theory even more because sams theme didnt follow that rule just like he wasnt very enhanced
Bruh, this song as the same energy as me trying to remember my dream
Yea like they all sound like a song I heard in a dream but just can't remember the lyrics
Locked and loaded is genuinely on par with the final version
I agree. Locked and Loaded is unironically my favorite track in all of Rising.
Gives me DMC vibes ngl, especially with the name. Rules of Nature similarly gives me the same vibe
Agreed, instead of reusing Rules of Nature for the GRAD fight, they should have used locked and loaded it would have fit a LOT better
The instrumental sounds super badass
Yes! That is definitely one thing i would change with all music, have the instrument and the static be evened up as much as locked and loaded was. Making it seem more cool and less too futuristic.
Unfortunatelly the Bladewolf's beta theme has been lost, but some leftovers are still remaining, thanx to you, dude!
It is not lost - it is just unreleased (for now)
@@jchristopherson Here's hoping!
@@jchristopherson Will you be officially posting the unreleased songs or would you need permission from Konami or Platinum first?
@@jchristophersonI'd love for you to dig 'em up man the fans need to know what you were cooking up early on.
@@jchristopherson YOOOOO, THE DUDE HIMSELF!
Just a question, why don’t the beta versions of The Stains of Time and Red Sun have vocals? And who were some of the singers in the beta songs?
My ratings of each version:
0:00 - LOCKED AND LOADED -
The instrumental somehow hits harder than Rules Of Nature’s instrumental and the singing’s good, but the lyrics don’t hit for me. Either way, this is an 11/10.
3:21 - I’M MY OWN MASTER NOW -
Isn’t this kinda already a part in the actual song? Whatever. 8/10.
3:44 - HERE I COME/A STRANGER I REMAIN -
I didn’t even know it had an intro like A Stranger I Remain because every version of it I’ve been able to find on RUclips skips it. The singer’s okay, but it immediately becomes god-tier once the retail’s chorus kicks in. 9/10.
8:51 - THE STAINS OF TIME -
No vocals, but this is pretty good either way. Wait, what if they used this and an instrumental for Here I Come for the body doubles of Mistral and Monsoon? 10/10.
11:16 - RED SUN -
It’s on the same level of the retail version and I like the build up to the chorus better than the retail version. The retail version’s build up was good, but somewhat about the beta’s build up hits harder. 10/10.
13:29 - THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL -
The instrumental hits way harder and sounds like Sam’s done joking around. Maybe it could’ve been good for the third phase of Sam’s boss fight. But the vocals sound like Demoman’s singing them and it sounds weird. The vocals do get better in the chorus, so that’s good! 10/10. (Wonder if Tyson Yen’ll ever do a cover of this version.)
15:36 - COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS -
Feels so much more aggressive than the retail version, but I hate how the vocals are in a completely different key from the instrumental. I actually prefer the retail version because it fits the vibe of fighting a huge mechanical beast way better. 8/10.
18:09 - IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY -
It feels way less climactic than the retail version, but I guess that’s just because the retail IHTBTW is hard to top. 4/10.
21:05 - CUT YOU DOWN TO SIZE -
I can barely understand the singer. Either way, 7/10.
Yoooo, Tyson Yen just recently dropped a FIRE cover of The Only Thing I Know For Real. You've got to listen to it!
A lot of people here seem to want the beta version of The Hot Wind Blowing, but it sadly may not exist. You have to remember that the DLC was released after the final release, meaning that the version we have now is probably the same as the beta.
Those renders look nice
Also out of all beta tracks Collective Consciousness is my favorite
Thank you! Even out of tune, I really like beta Collective consciousness too. Sounds aggressive and awesome.
I actually like all the instrumentals better than the finals
Beta collective consciousness sounds like it was made as a high school band project
words cannot describe how much i wish the beta version of Khamsin's theme was found, it's really a shame we don't have originals of all of them.
Does it even exist?
I dont think so@@BeachioSandschannel
Kinda sucks that you cant even hear full theme in the DLC. The lyrics only kick in during the finisher IIRC
@@logansinclair7488 Honestly fitting in a tragic way, he was ultimately forgotten about even in a meta sense
@@BeachioSandschannel considering the fact that the songs you hear here are extracted directly from the leftover files of the demo in the game, and khamsin had not been created yet during development of the demo, it is pretty much confirmed to not exist. he was originally going to be the boss of mexico, however was cut from the game before he even reached the design phase (which was pre-demo, so no theme for him). only after the main game was released and they had already figured out what type of music they were going for was he was revived and designed specifically for the wolf dlc.
i'd say jamie (composer of mgr's music, if you didn't know) has early versions of the song, but i don't think it'd be anything like these. it'd probably be a barebones version of what we currently have, with synths and no change in lyrics or vocals. but still, i'm unsure if he'd release it, since he may not even have the files anymore
damn the art is fire here
this feels extremely wrong to listen to but extremely right at the same time
I knew about all the other songs except for the last one. I love your videos and really appreciate you finding ways to somehow bring be new content from an old game! Thanks fatty cat!
Hey! Thank you for the kind words, really means a lot to me. I'm glad you enjoy my content! Thank you very much! :)
I kinda know about most of these by now, but the artwork you did for each track is very nice to look at.
Thank you! I had a lot of fun making the art! :)
@@fattycat6125 You're very welcome. I'm glad to hear that :)
Heyyy i never heard the beginning of the stranger i remain beta verison nice of you that you found it
I wasn't the first person to find it, but it's pretty cool to hear it!
@FattyCat612 yeah but when i search on RUclips to try to hear it nobody has it but for me it's a first
There's videos from like 9 years ago of all the different beta songs.
Lyrics:
Locked and Loaded:
Locked and Loaded!
Let the mercury rise on up
And it boils in my blood
(Alright, I swear I'll)
Tear at the seams 'til you come undone
I take it all - I take it all in and I
I save it up - I save it all for the fight
I feel a heat
The temperature rising
I'll make you bleed!
(yell)
Locked and Loaded!
Here I come (A stranger I remain 2012 - early version):
I've come here to save you
And I can already taste the kill
Like caressing an angel
Burning up in the atmosphere
And with the blood of a dying star above
My true aesthetic's unwinding
And I'm about to come undone
So don't let me become the one you love
'Cause I'll just take your blood and use you up
I know it's tempting to jump off the edge and fly
But this is not a dream
So don't let me become the one you love
Here I come
Here I come
Collective Consciousness (Early Version):
The unenlightened masses
They cannot make the judgement call
Give up free will forever, their voices won’t be heard at all
Display obedience
While never stepping out of line
And blindly swear allegiance
Let your country control your mind
(Let your country control your soul)
Live in ignorance
And purchase your happiness
When blood and sweat is the real cost
Thinking ceases, the truth is lost
Don’t you worry
You’ll be told exactly what to do
I give my people the lives they need
The righteous will succeed
The fires will burn in their defeat
The human heart is obsolete
Breaking down the fabric of society
Collective consciousness controlled as you will see
Let your country control your soul
Let your country control your soul
Let your country control your soul
Let your country control your soul
Cut You Down To Size (Dark Skies 2012 - Early Version):
It boiled, over-seething
You're mine, I'll cut you down to size
We all fall down, where
I'll cut you down to size
It's in my hairs, my head, my nails, my teeth
It's under their feet
Embrace your fate, I just erase
I rain it down, I kicked all the floodgates out
Oh no, I so see them crawl
My sights are set on you, and you're undoubtedly
Mine, there's no way out now
Now wave on your way down
Cut, way down
The beta Stains Of Time is genuinely amazing and probably even better than the final version. It's a shame there's no lyrics for it as the final lyrics just don't fit with the beat.
I beg to differ, I actually tried putting the isolated vocals along with the demo once, and it's on beat no doubt!
Did not hear the beta verison of cut you down to size till now very interesting
Cut you down to size is the beta version of dark skies
14:25
The final part of the song is obviously excellent, but this moment is absolutely brilliant and the vocals fit perfectly here. Unfortunately, the vocals at the beginning are very bad
So much power behind those vocals haha, it sounds amazing. I prefer the beta's instrumental to the final's at the very least.
@@fattycat6125 me too. Maybe because I love metal and because the early versions have more electric guitar playing, I like it more
I've heard people use the beta versions in remixes before and I was always curious to see a compilation like this! thanks for putting it together!
also Idc what people say, I actually like the opening vocals in OTIKFR. I prefer the official version but I don't dislike the beta! the "losing my identity" part also goes hard
Awesome! Those renders are pretty good!
Thank you! Had a lot of fun making them! :)
If you put the modern singer in the early jetstream's theme it sounds a huge banger that makes my adrenaline go to space
Where can I find that?
@@idonteveniowanymothere are some videos that combine the current jsam theme and the beta one, basically putting the current singer and the old song, i think searching "The only i thing i know for real current + beta" should do the work
@@idonteveniowanymo a lot of remixes of the song use it!
Thank you for this
there is an alternate reality where these were these are the versions of the songs in the final release and they got an equally as epic metal gear rising.
I love Locked and Loaded!
All of these vocals are a bit shaky, but I think collective consciousness with its "high pitched" vocals, immediatly ignites a pretty uncomfortable and sinister feeling. But still its better that all of these vocals got replaced with the newers ones.
The riff before Stains of Time's Beta Chorus went hard as FUCK
Question: did you extract these files yourself? If so, were they in .wem format by any chance?
Yes, most of these I extracted myself. They are all in .wem formats, but I had them converted to .ogg.
beta stains of time is perfect
I love how many beta versions, especially visible in Mistral and Sam, incorporate like 30 styles and instruments throught its course, basically telling devs "We can play it any of those ways for it to sound good, now grab this musical lego and pick and choose whatever you like".
Also, love the "Here I come" part of Mistral, shame they chose one Vamp was enough and decided to keep only "Stranger I Remain" part.
Opinions on the vocals:
Here I come : Interesting how its a darker rendition of A Stranger I Remain. Sounds a little forced but still interesting.
5/10
The Only Thing I Know For Real : Starts very shaky and a little weird, but the chorus is RAW. Really well done after that point, you can tell theres a lot of emotion put into it.
9/10
Collective Consciousness : Starts off sounding weird as well, but gets better. Slight lyric change is also interesting.
6/10
It Has To Be This Way : What happened here?? It sounds like a purposely bad dub. However, the bloostained sand part was decent.
1/10
Cut You Down To Size : Pretty enjoyable to be honest. Not much to say really.
7/10
You forgot locked and loaded!
@@Kai-1138 oh shoot my bad, time to edit my comment
@@watermellonman no worries, it is kinda hard to rate due to how little lyrics it has but how metal it is.
LOCKED AND LOADEDDD
LET THE MERCURY RISE ON UPPPPP
@@td_is_infinite667 and it boils in my balls
@@td_is_infinite667 AND IT BOILS IN MY BLOOD
the bass for here I come goes hard
nice arts!
Thanks, I appreciate that! :)
Hi, just saying awesome rendering 😊
Also, is there a possibility to make them downloadable? I would like to put one of them as a wallpaper 😅
Thank you kindly! I had a lot of fun making them, means a lot to me! :D
Here, I put them all up for download here - app.mediafire.com/ybcx4av29folb
You can also find all of them on my DeviantArt page - www.deviantart.com/arcticicy
early Armstrong theme sounds like when you put in the headphone jack the wrong way
Can you upload them Individually? I love the Wallpaper it includes with it so ill appreciate it if you upload them individually
All of them are up for download here! Hope you enjoy!
app.mediafire.com/ybcx4av29folb
STAINS OF TIME ARE PERFECT
14:00 16:02 19:01 *YIKES*
Yea)
That a good or bad yikes? Haha.
@@fattycat6125 *BAD*
@@thefallen2220 The vocals? Lmfao
@@fattycat6125 They're so fricking *BAD*
no puede haber una versión beta de todas las canciones, vaya demo, que tenia el juego completo o que ? 💀
11:15 fat man jumpscare
Beta stains of time sounds like an anime opening.
Is it me or the Stranger I Remain voice sounds exactly like the final version?
They are exactly the same. The instrumental is much different though, and then there's the even older version of her track, that seems to be incomplete. So most people just tied the 2 together.
@@fattycat6125do you know where I could find the incomplete version that you’re referring to? I’m curious what it sounds like
@@KoraAzure "Here I Come" is the older version of the song. It seems the second half of the song is outright missing. Most people tend to merge it with the early version of a stranger I remain though.
@@fattycat6125 ah. In that case I’ve actually heard it before. Thanks for answering my question anyways
@@KoraAzure Yeah of course. No problem!
The guitars in Locked and Loaded are more dynamic compared to Rules of Nature... It's definitely my favorite.
It is pretty simple to figure it out once you realize that the beta versions are metal, while the retails are more like rock.
Jesus Christ, beta the only thing I know for real slaps
especially the "THERE WILL BE BLOOD!..." part
@@TogrulMammedzade I know right it just sounds so raw it’s amazing
These feel like a and b sides of a track-
why does Stains of time past go crazy
Locked and loaded,another refrence in aut
Where can one download it? Would love to have in my playlist.
Maybe I'm just edgy but the original version of "The Only Thing I Know For Real" is so much better for me.
the beta version of collective consciousness slaps
cut you down to size is better than dark skies
stains of time is like a mandela or troll version
Nice
Why do I prefer these instrumentals over the current ones?
No beta for The Hot Wind Blowing?
Sadly no. An early version of the hot wind blowing doesn't exist in the demo's files.
@@fattycat6125 Oof :(
Yes
wtf locked & loaded is so good
hey can i download these files somewhere? can you sent the link pls
Why isn't The Hot Wind Blowing (Khamsin's theme) here?
Unfortunately, an early version of Khamsin's theme doesn't exist in the demo's files.
Were there any music files that wouldn’t convert?
do the early version of Hot Wind is Blowing exists?
Presumably yes
ok@@Bagajigg
Everyone is saying beta stains of time is the best (not saying it’s bad with this claim) but red sun is amazing even if it’s just an instrumental
Cut You Down To Size too brutal
Pfp?
#DemoMusic
it has to be this way vocals are so bad but instrumental great.
18:35 who farted
I CANT STAND IT WTF LOCKED AND LOADED WHAT IS THIS COUNTER STRIKE???
First track must be UG Grad theme
Lmao the lyrics sound like me singing in the shower
XD
ÆUGH
I almost read 612 in your username as 621
The vocal is terrible...