Oregon & Washington on verge of joining Big Ten, per reports | CBS Sports
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2023
- Oregon and Washington appear on the verge of joining the Big Ten. The programs, both charter members of the Pac-12 dating back to 1915, informed Pac-12 presidents Friday that they plan to accept an invitation from the Big Ten once extended, according to Yahoo Sports. The Big Ten is preparing to make those formal offers later Friday, according to multiple reports.
- David Cobb, CBS Sports Writer
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Can’t wait for that classic Big10 rivalry Oregon vs Maryland
It’s crazy to think a few years ago the Pac-12 was supposed to poach BIG 12 teams and kill their conference
It worse knowing that the Pac-12 had two separate occasions to savage the Big 12 this century. My Trojans were a big reason for saying no, the last time unfortunately. Before dipping to the B1G.
They didn't have the balls.
The Pac-12 was never any good. Washington getting into the CFP was a complete joke. They ended up being like 17 point underdogs to Alabama and getting humiliated. The Big 12 was the best conference in college football over twenty years ago but is now a mid-major conference. It's all about the SEC and Big Ten now.
@@Zenigundam lmaoo did you watch that Washington Bama game? That Alabama team had 12 first round picks and only beat the huskies by two touchdowns in the playoffs. Put some respect on UW cause they were a legit team that year
Big 12 fan here and saying turnabout is fair play but you're blaming the wrong conference. What conferences have been/and are getting poached? Wake up to the real agenda going on here with two super conferences (BIG/$EC) and the leftovers. Sounds like a band. The agenda: ruclips.net/video/Mv1h0NvdQ8Y/видео.html
And the Big 12 did approach the PAC (before Yormark came onboard) to do a merger, they said no, seems teams like to do things under the table like UT/OU did 2 years ago with the $EC and the PAC over 10 years ago against the Big 12.
Now the BIG 10 can have their conference championship game at the Rose Bowl bi- annually.
Incredible take
I expect it to rotate but differently. For example, reflecting where teams are located, maybe 1 in 4 played in the West (Pasadena, Seattle), 2/3 in 4 in the Midwest (Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Detroit), and maybe 1 in 4 in the East/Southeast (Washington DC, Charlotte, Orlando). Spread it around to create more buzz and a sense of inclusion.
It going to be USC OREGON WASHINGTON VS OHIO ST MICHIGAN AND PENN ST !!
Rest in Peace Pac 12, thank you for the after dark memories.
It might not be over yet....
@@earnthis1It's over.
It’s totally over. It’s the MAC 12 now…
Loved after dark. It felt like I was watching adult swim as a kid. Like football isn't supposed to be on at this hour. Loved the feeling it gave me.
I'm a time traveler from 2046, the Pac 12 is alive and well. The government is going to break up the super conferences and overturn Board of Regents vs NCAA. College football is going back to the 1950s. That will also mean no more NIL.
I feel really bad for Oregon State and Washington State fans, they might have to join the mountain west 😢
or the American
And they will become the forgotten teams.
@Yeahcalifornia_ not necessarily. Successful programs in smaller conferences still get attention. NDSU isn't even FBS and got GameDay. OSU and Wazzu could become juggernauts in a mid major and heck, their fans might even prefer that.
Especially Oregon State. Jonathan Smith FINALLY rights the ship and leads the Beavs to their first 10 win season since 2006 only to immediately after be relegated to a G5 conference. As a life long Ducks fan it breaks my heart to see our little brother get screwed just when they finally began to see some light on the horizon. Fingers crossed they find a way to ensure that the Civil War remains the final game each year for both teams regardless of where they end up and if not I'm blaming Dennis Dixon for hexing it.
The American Conference should grow some BIG balls and just INVADE the Mountain West....if not....just change their name to C-USA 2.0.
Blaming either of the pac commissioners is not admitting
that the lack of PAC TV viewership did the conference in.
Creating a fragmented Pac 12 Network certainly hurt viewership. Apple TV + could get better numbers.
Commissioners set up the deal, and the network.
Yep! Where there's people...there's money. No people?....No money!! This is a total reflection of the cultural differences of the USA. South, Midwest and old Industrial Heartland were and still are blue-collar working-man land. Football is a HE-MAN'S game....not for skinny assed soy boys. The Least Coast and Leftist Coast? Can't even get 70,000 to watch their biggest team...even when they were competing for MNC!! THAT says it all!! If Phil Knight had not pumped billions into his alma mater, Oregon would be on par with Boston College. Certainly, no better than Pitt. The times they are a changing.
EXACTLY. "Conferences" have become nothing more than revenue-drive media conglomerates. That's it.
That's part of the problem but Larry Scott was the main culprit by cutting out DirectTV .... very bad move!
The B10 is gonna be pretty entertaining to watch
Can't wait for Oregon Vs Rutgers said no one ever.
it’s gonna be interesting
Watch BTPR beat them!!! LOL....NYC will burn!!
Nobody cares about the matchups, the travel distance, the rivalries, or anything else. This makes sense from a TV revenue perspective for the Big 18, and that's the only consideration.
@@joellahrman4557 some matchups tho 👀
@@betz_yt sure there will be some interesting matchups, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that creating matchups that fans want to see has anything to do with what's going on here.
Pac 12 could have merged with the big 12 a couple years ago but they refused and here we are. Sorry wash st and OSU, your commisioner screwed you.
They also could have picked up Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State way back during the Larry Scott era when they were all knocking on the Pac-12's door but they were shot down because the bastard didn't want to share with the Longhorn network. the Pac-12 has been mismanaged for decades now, it's heartbreaking to see over a century of history destroyed due to incompetent leadership and corporate greed. RIP PAC...
Oregon =Nike
UW= Seattle Media market
Yep the PAC 12 might as well pac it up.
That final comment by pundit is true, gonna get way more competitive in the Big 10. Any team that makes it out undefeated gonna either be really lucky with the schedule and/or battle tested and ready to compete for a National Championship.
Patterson is wrong. Unless they're going to be adding more games to the schedule (highly unlikely as 15 games for the CFP champion right now is probably one too many and the CFP is set to expand), these schools are just going to be playing (some) different teams. There are still going to be a few teams at the top, they just won't necessarily be conference champions.
Worried for my Cal Bears
Looks like not taking the calls of Big 12 teams looking to move to the PAC, was maybe the worst decision in the history of sports. Good job.
Yep. The arrogance and poor leadership of the PAC did them in.
Now the big ten is going to become the biggest conference of all time and they should have separate championship games now.
When nearly 20 teams?.... at some point, the CFB season gotta expand to 14-15 games per season
Sure going to miss the Duck vs Beavers showdown.
PAC 8/10/12 is all I know since I was born and raised in Los Angeles. And it's football that is driving this, damn the other sports. I can't see UCLA basketball in the Big Ten. It's not right, but money talks
Agreed. This is far from right. The PAC as we knew it growing up will be a memory, even if the name lives on. The new look Big-10 will resemble less a conference and more an athletic association.
The Pac has been a non-factor in college sports for the longest time. The rest of the country has always seen the conference as soft. Take away the Pete Carroll USC teams and the Pac-12 has basically been a mid-major conference for the past twenty five years.
The other sports don't bring revenue to support its livelihood. So to keep the other sports you need big money. And gains are never met without sacrafice.
John Wooden was an All-American guard at Purdue University.
I would like to see UCLA and Purdue establish an annual Basketball trophy,
between the 2 colleges beginning in 2024/2025 season.
@@Zenigundam post mike garrett
The fact people want this is baffling college sports is ruined
People don’t want. TV does.
@@jeffkilgore6320 it’s the TV networks that want their money going to schools/conferences that will provide them a product worth viewing and it’s the heads of said athletic program that want their share and want to keep their share
@@jeffkilgore6320are you seeing the comments? People have lost their fucking minds. There seems to be this weird ass allegiance to the conference instead of the schools themselves.
The PAC 12s only chance is merging their remaining teams with the Mountain West
Thought Shehan was a professional in waiting to talk until he was called. In any case I and I am sure many other fans have to adjust. All these changes, wow!
Super conferences for football were inevitable. However, they don't make sense for virtually every other sport. Make a Big 10 East and a Big 10 west for the other sports to maintain there geographical alignment. Please! It then works for everyone.
Actually this is extremely sad. Unfortunately the west coast schools will ultimately suffer with the traveling.
Colleges have dropped all pretense that football and basketball is anything more than an income stream and the players are anything more than unpaid employees.
i thought chip just got out of the shower and still had shampoo on his head lmao
Just a thought and idk how conference scheduling is determined outside of rivals/tradition. (This is assuming Stanford/Cal join the B1G) If the PAC schools are concerned about travel distance, why not just have all West Coast teams play each other every year (5 games per) then alternate home/away games (3-4) every other year with Midwest teams. Again idk if it could work like that, but at least travel would be lessened.
We might be watching the slow death of the undefeated season as well. Eventually these super conferences will just have so many good teams, everyone will beat each other up.
That why we watch
This is a by product of the college playoff system …… the ACC is probably next Florida St and Georgia Tech fit well in the SEC 😂😂😂
they were SEC members for 30 years (1933-63)
There is an old saying, "what goes around comes around." Fifteen or 20 years from now, we will have another wave of realignment that will involve schools from the Big 10 and Big 12 leaving to form their own conference because they will become tired of finishing at the bottom of the Big 10 and the Big 12 every year and will see the advantage of separating from those conferences. I probably won't be alive to see the next wave of realignment, but I am certain it will happen.
The B10 needs to strike while the iron is hot. They need to go after Florida State, Clemson, Miami, and North Carolina. Begin Poaching The South.
Big 10 will have 4 time slots for games on saturdays now, that is something no other conferences will have
This is gonna be crazy... three major spots.
Big Noon on Fox, 4pm on CBS, primetime on NBC...
@@otaviofrn_adv FUCK the FOX Sports SUCKS network and their pig swoon game......Prime Time will ALWAYS be Saturday night!
Woow.. thats really it. I came to this Video after finding out about Arizona leaving. Pac-12 will have to merge
Honestly, anyone else hate how college football is going? NIL, transfer portal, conference alignment that's ignoring regionality, rivals. Guess I'm a traditionalist
I agree. It is nothing but a minor league with college mascots. The regionality is the biggest thing I hate to see go.
That's a foolish opinion. NIL, Yes kids should be paid they're the ones actually doing the work while Everyone else benefits significantly financially. If a regular student can transfer schools why can't a student athlete? Coaches just up and leave a program for a better opportunity why can't a student athlete. USC and UCLA weren't being taken care of financially to stay in PAC 12 why would they stay there? Revenue and exposure for everyone.
I love it, the entire business model needed to be blown up. This has been a professional business for decades, we only called it amateur sports because the players received nothing. It's high time we recognize NCAA football for what it is.
I agree, and the dumbasses in the comment section are encouraging it.
By Monday morning it will be the "Pack-It-Up" conference.
With all of this conference realignment the NCAA is going to have to introduce new bowl games for conferences or make bowl eligibility more than 6 wins and at this point the College Football Playoff will become March Madness with these super conferences
What's a NCAA? Wasn't that some secret Satanic cult back in the Dark Ages?
No. Please No. Way too many meaningless bowl game already.
I'm sure the money grubbers will though
@jofi4580 That's why he said Bowl eligibility is gonna have to be for 8 wins or better OR a regional playoff tournament of the Top 12 teams, then conclude by New Year
The Big ten is going have to change its name here with all these teams
It’s trademarked as B1G now. The Big12 is the only one left with the number in their name.
I don’t think anyone is surprised here. PAC12 is good as gone. They might as well merge with MWC at this point.
Going to miss pac12 after dark. Nothing like waking up Sunday morning to see if i hit my last parley😂
It will just be you waking up to B1G Conference after dark.
Here's my question: How many teams have to be in the Big 10 before the Big 10 figures out it may need to change its name to more accurately reflect the actual number of universities in the conference? I get that when Penn State joined as the 11th member it was sort of easier to simply change the branding icon to "B1G" rather than the name because who was actually counting. It's gotta change to something now, though, if it goes to 18. I didn't do great in high school math, but I know that 18 isn't very close to 10.
It's a tradition thing, not numerical.
@@honestcomment862 The giant "Ten" in the name says it's numerical. Pretty soon none of the conferences names will make sense. Regional names have been loosely interpreted for well over a decade now and counting conferences haven't been counting correctly for a long time.
They should keep the name B1G10 until they found something better but i have no problem with the name would feel wierd to change it now ima B1G10 fan Yes Ohio State 😜
That's a lot of beef added to the grid-iron. The B1G is a T-Rex. No worries, in a few weeks the ticket sales, tv ratings, tailgates, and stadiums will speak for themselves. People in the B1G love Pac12 schools like no other. Just look at the 100 year history - recent games... the crowds and attention Pac12 teams draw in the B1G stadiums. It's absolutely remarkable. 100k stadiums 10M tv
Michigan Ohio State was the most watched game last year
@@johnmandock56 NOT ME!! Never heard of them....DON'T care either!
Oregon and Washington have huge fan bases, but USC and UCLA, can’t sell out their stadiums to play for championship runs. USC, and Oregon will probably never sniff a championship ever again
@@josephcernansky1794 who
@@johnnyslc do you think they'll be able to compete with Michigan Ohio State?
The PAC 12 isn’t the conference of champions anymore but the conference of realignment. It’s honestly crazy all that’s happening and how fast it’s happening. A lot to take in I can definitely see a merger of the remaining 4 Pac 12 Teams with the Mountain West the only thing that honestly makes sense either that or the conference disbands entirely. College athletics is about to get wild buckle up.
I do wish that the B1G would cut some of its dead weight and add even more big schools. There are two acc teams with fertile recruiting grounds looking for new homes.
Meanwhile Northwestern and Rutgers, while in decent recruiting areas are absolute stink pile football programs that make more money than they deserve.
Stanford needs to apply for Big12 membership
Who's this Stanford you speak of? Is that some kind homeless camp in California? And what's Notre Dame? I thought it burnt down? Heard they're trying to rebuild it, but I don't think they have yet.
RIP apple cup and border war🪦
Civil War, Bedlam
the Border War will go on, as it should, Washington and Oregon are a package deal. the Civil War though... I blame Dennis Dixon for cursing both schools with that ridiculous demand for censorship that everyone disregards anyway.
Who would have thought that the MWC would outlast the Pac 12? Crazy times
BPM conference is about to become a reality! Broke Pac Mountain!
PAC-12 schools the 5 best remaining schools (Wa. Or. AZ, ASU, Utah) should either go to Big 10 or Big12 as package deal and that would form a nice West Coast Conference ...
I would feel bad for the Pac 12 but then I remember how the Big 12 was treated back in 2010-2011 and when Oklahoma and Texas left. The Big 12 was left for dead twice so I don't feel sorry for the Pac 12.
Shout out to whoever was typing the entire video
PAC 12. R.I.P.
It’s funny now the PAC needs the Mounting West Help! 😂
Brutus was right
Just glad this isnt about $$$ .. fans and students will benefit the most...
Better grab Cal, Stanford, and the Four Corners schools (yes, even Colorado) before the shelves are empty.
Lmfaoooo Colorado in the big 12 🤣🤦🏾♂️🤣😂
Arizona is already talking to their board for Big-12 membership (better for B-Ball).
Stanford would go independent first. Or football is independent and they join the WCC otherwise.
@@PCSPounder WAC will expand !
@@w9gb :D
Notre Dame, Navy, Stanford, Cal, and 2 more form a 6 team conerence.
Smart take about the win losses going up on these Big programs and they aren’t ready
Wow! Did not see this happening! ( Rolls eyes ). This is the best thing that could have happened to the Big Ten by getting the other 2 schools from the PAC 12, for a bargain price. Colorado, Utah, Arizona and Arizona state will go to the Big 12 at some point. Cal and Stanford will also the join the Big 10 within the next year or two.
Hopefully Cal and Stanford follow suit
@@josephcernansky1794 why the Bay Area is a big market and Cal and Stanford would also increase the Big 10’s academic rankings there’s no reason for them not to join
I love it, better teams and new rivalries. So teams should not advance and make money?
Anyone think Stanford gets in if/when ND joins BIG 10? Great for the conference On Wisconsin!
I think it’s a special school with academics, research, and has the Bay Area Market. If Stanford join B1G, 90% of ND rivals would be in 90% in B1G. The ball is in ND court.
This proves that no matter how good Oregon has been lately, they were still second rate compared to USC. Had it been Oregon who left first instead of USC, the Pac12 would still survive, but the Pac12 was going to be the Mountain West conference without USC in the conference and they had to cry to the big10 to take them lol
The real question here is what does this mean for Rutgers ?
New York Market is too big to give up, keep eyes on Clemson and Florida St. One of them might be the next to join.
That's the last marketing are that big10 doesn't have a media presence.
The big10 would then be the only conference cost to cost top to bottom.
Basically the big10 media wise is like the NFL cost to cost but not quite top to bottom yet like the NFL but we will get there
@@bolee3339 THAT is what Fox Sports said was their plan when they signed this last deal...to make The B1G like the No Fun League.
It means nothing. Rutgers doesn't have a massive fan base of course, but it is the Big 18's toehold in the NYC market. Which is really the only thing Rutgers has ever brought to the conference. Fortunately for Rutgers, in this day and age that's all that really matters.
@@bolee3339why would Clemson go to B1G? They run the ACC and get a sure fire shot at the Championship just about every year.
@troybaxter they do but also gets kicked around about their strength of schedule.
With Ucla, usc, Oregon, and Washington joining the Big10, it will mostly be two big 10 teams vs. two sec until they add a 12 team playoff, and then it wouldn't matter.
They would be in a solid conference and get a better media deal for the school,
and it would spread their footprints in areas that they have trouble reaching.
The same goes for Florida St, but since Oregon and Washington joined the big may, instead make another play on Norter Dame and stay out of the south market
Here’s a thought: Let’s just make all of college football The Big 10 and the SEC. 100 teams in each conference. Why not? We’ve gone from 8 to 10 to 12 to 14 to 16. So just go ahead and make it 2 conferences with 100 teams each. And then we can have that natural home-and-home between Rutgers & Hawaii every year.
WHY?????
I’m so proud of the BIG 😢let’s go Buckeyes !
I’m a Wisconsin fan and agree with you it’s good for the conference.
O-H!
@@bighotrizzle "O-H!".... The Poison Chestnuts!
You mean, let's Go Blue Baby!!!
@@None-dj8iy no I mean thank god Michigan is finally good again see ya in that crappy state of yours
Why are there two women talking about this?
Surprised USC didn’t block this.
Can't. Not members of BIG yet
@@s.g.2402 They had no say. I'm sure they didn't like it! As a Duck fan, I love it.
@ricpodcast665 Ute fan. I'm happy for you Ducks if it pans out. Also because you know USC is really unhappy 😂
Less travel time why would they hate it
@@kamelkadri2843because Oregon recruits heavily and successfully in Southern California
How will these overloaded conferences get all the teams aired on tv?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣PAC 🔥sale!!! Way to go B1G. I am sure you could get ASU and Utah for less than WA and OR. I am sure B12 fans would love to see ASU and Utah go to the B1G.
The theme song for the PAC12 should be 🎶 Nah, nah, nah, nah...nah, nah, nah, nah...hey, heyyyy....GOODBYE! 🎶
One final FU from Larry Scott, I can't believe the presidents put up with his ineptitude for over a decade. The Pac12 could have been a super conference had they been able to pull Texas, Oklahoma, OK St, and Texas Tech
The pac 12 should have jumped on texas an Oklahoma years ago. That alone would have got them that huge tv deal they needed. Would have made so much more sense.
I think the blame for this is on Larry Scott.
Let’s be honest… the reason the conference presidents hired him in the first place is because they knew they were falling behind and needed something different. Scott’s big achievement was ushering womens pro tennis into the spotlight. But the skill set of hob-nobbing with jet-setters doesn’t translate to college sports.
The networks did this. And you can argue that viewership out west is part of the problem, but networks were already relegating Pac games to a more-hated-than-you-realize late time slot before Scott arrived. Remember when regional broadcasts were a thing? That’s a problem for more than the Pac.
How long before the basketball sxhools say we want our own conference/deals
2 years
@@Indigo_Phoenixx that will be next in my opinion
Realignment absolutely sucks
Big10 is now bigger than the sec
I can’t wait till some of these conferences drop teams. No way sec is happy paying for Vanderbilt, big ten ..the entire west.
Vandy is a founding member, has a great baseball team, and props up SEC academics. There is more to a conference than just football.
Same goes for Duke and the ACC. Duke is one of the best schools in the country and has a great basketball program. Why on Earth would the ACC want to "relegate" them like y'all are so insistent on doing.
Michigan vs Oregon 😊NICE
Why is Chip wearing a gray helmet?
I heard the news too that the DISCOUNT DUCKS has agreed to take a 50% discount payout cut to come into the league
and the same source says they're still gonna get more money than in the conference formerly known as Pac 12
They'll eventually climb to 100%. By the time the next media deal, they'll be full members. Even next year will make MORE than what they could have made in the Big 12. Certainly, MORE than selling Apples on the street corners of the homeless camps!!!
@@otaviofrn_adv Your absolutely correct. Your Discount Ducks will still get paid compared to the PAC 12.
@@danielbitzer652 not a fan of the ducks, but this is proof of how the Pac 12 mismanaged itself... Just one of many examples
You heard wrong they took the money becuase it was more than what pac 12s new contract with Apple would of got them
Wow, crazy and sad. Time to go ahead and just make a 160 team conference, and be done with all this silliness.
You're close; conferences are just going to go away.
Yeah this is the end of the pac 12 it’s over sooner or later it’s gonna dissolve it’s sucks but hey it’s the world of college football now 🤷♂️
If the Pac 12 gets a playoff spot, then the best team that stays in the Pac 12 could go to the playoffs every year.
There won't be a Pac 12 after this year. Corner schools to Big 12, OSU and Wazzu to MW, California and Stanford will land somewhere. This is the final season for the Pac
Only Two ..... SEC vs Big10
All players should get paid in these expanded conferences the travel there going to have todo is going to be professional level
College football needs more games regular season. Least 15 games
This may very well mark the end of the PAC-12 after the 2023-24 season. However, what people forget is that the PAC-12 has a proposed television contract in place. So, I think there is a possibility that the schools in the PAC 12 could choose to merge with the schools in the Mountain West and call themselves the new PAC-12 so that they can take advantage of that $25 million per school contract that is available to the PAC 12. Schools in the WAC currently only receive $6 million per school, so a merger would definitely benefit them.
The $25 million is going to fall fast with Oregon and Washington leaving.
The WAC is an FCS conference. LOL
@@scottlaux6934 it might if they don't sign the contract first.
What kind is production is this, literally can hear someone typing on the keyboard through the whole video
Sco Ducks
Nothing against Oregon or Washington but I really hate all of this.
Why? Your conference is getting stronger. You now have 5 of the 10-12 biggest brands in the sport. OSU, Michigan, PSU, Oregon, and USC. Not only that but the basketball go that conference just got better too
@@zj4008So what if the Big 10 getting stronger, their expansion is ruining the traditions that make college football special.
News coming at you from Barbie world . . .
Ohio St and Oregon are about to be the best rivalry in the country.
So much for the 3 big East teams running everything
The Big 10 needs to change their name to the Big 20
PAC 12 is Toast..
Conference of champions hahaha
The competition won't change much, these teams in the major conferences won't be playing everyone every year.
I just like the idea of MORE Marquee games ....sort of like OOC games ...at least for the foreseeable future until we get bored and want to invite NFL teams into the League
It will with 12 team playoffs and no east and west in big 10
@@stevesalisbury3657 your argument is invalid
BIG 10 After Dark
As a big ten fan idk how I feel about this I want FSU or Miami Notre Dame North Carolina Virginia or Georgia tech instead but at least we could get B1G Ten games late at night
FSU >>>>>> than USC, Clemson >>>>> Oregano
Why?
@@stevesalisbury3657 I would like the big ten to get a footprint into Florida for recruiting mostly but Oregon and Washington will also give the B1G great prime time matchups pretty much every week either way I’m excited for all the west coast teams to join the league next year 🎉🎉🎉🥳
More BIG games😊
Big sky to the pac 12 lol