The size of the court and way you play is why Pickleball is so attractive to older people. Less about pure athleticism/speed/power and more about strategy, shot placement, and finesse.
Not only for elder People. I am 26 years old and for me Tennis on a Lay court on my level is very much about running... And since 3 years i am playing Padel which is so much fun to me because of the tactics, strategy and the possibilities and points in general. But i would like to check out pickleball as well, seems to be very fun :)
Do you think you're a better athlete than these two? I'm not sure how you look at this video and not think there is a ton of athleticism in PB singles. Really, pickleball singles is tougher, from a fitness standpoint, than tennis singles. Way less time to catch your breathe between points. There is no second serve, and the next point starts up as soon as the server gets the one ball.
@@PeterCacioppi LOL. Do you play a high level of tennis? The comparison is no where close with endurance and stamina. This is glorified ping pong. A pack a day smoker could excel at pickle ball
@@danmeadowsmusic Did you watch the video? These guys are hauling ass all over. I played high school tennis. I was a 4.0, maybe a 4.5 at my peak. I'm a 4.0 in PB. Pickleball singles is harder than tennis singles for three reasons. 1. There is less downtime between rallies, because there is no second serve and the points reset faster than tennis. 2. The serve isn't weaponized in pickleball. Smashing a service winner isn't particularly tiring to anything other than your shoulder (and of course, the receiver of a service winner barely gets any exercise). 3. The rallies last longer because its easier to play "past balls". That is to say, its easier to wrist flick a ball that is just barely past you back into play. You can see all this if you watch some pickleball videos. Just watch pickleball and tennis side by side, and measure how much time is spent actually playing relative to match time. Pickleball has longer rallies with faster resets and fewer service winners. These are simple facts, not opinions. You might need to watch two 4.0s play pickleball, and then watch two 4.0s play tennis, to really compare. Obviously, tennis pros are amazing at creating long rallies and thus need insane court coverage and fitness. The joke is recreational tennis players might as well be playing a different sport than the pros, and you switch to pickleball to get quality points.
@@PeterCacioppi You conveniently left out the fact that mastering the tennis serve is extremely difficult. In 4.0 tennis breaks of serve are extremely common and service games are much longer because aces are not that common. Is it a weapon when you're talking about John Isner and Kevin Anderson? Yes it is. Regardless, I've watched this video back to back with the FO final of this year, and you if you think that these guys "hauled more ass" than Djokovic and Tsitsipas did, well, I don't really know what to say to you. If you didn't have "quality points" during your 4.5 level tennis matches, I'm sorry, you're probably a 2.5 if none of the points you played were of any quality.
I played Tyson in doubles 8 or 10 years ago and we won in a close three setter and he’s a really good regional semi-pro tennis player. Well, he was. Great athlete. Good for him.
@@evanfridinger999 You think? I've played both. Federer is fast, moves well, has tremendous skill, and undoubtedly would make a fine Pickleball player, but there are differences between the games that out of the box could make it difficult to beat Johns or McGuffin. I've played some very good tennis players, and they do make good Pickleball players, but they will tell you that while some skills are similar, others are different.
@@paflyfish I think if you give him a month or two of straight pickle ball practice time he would be able to beat these people mainly because the ball is so much slower that he would just be able to beat them even if he had no strategy (which he does have).
@@Collier-gy2ni You are correct that in general the ball is slower in Pickleball, at least much of the time. Most of the game is won at the kitchen line or non volley zone. Players are very close, so the ball can come back quickly when smashed. Reflexes for hard, but also very soft returns, matters. Regarding having no strategy I don't think Federer could win without that. If you've played Pickleball there is actually quite a bit of strategy on where and how to hit the ball. A tennis racket has strings and a pickle ball racquet does not. The pressure for the two differs. I play tennis and pickleball. I often have to remind myself to move away from the ball in tennis. Beating Johns or McGuffin? I don't know about that in a few months. These guys have honed their games and it's taken some time. No doubt though that Federer would kick my butt in a short time.
I'm new to Pickleball, and I was told you're not allowed to hit volleys inside the Kitchen. Watching this game, however, it seems like there were many instances where McGuffin jumped forward and hit volleys (Really close to the net) while in the air before landing past the Kitchen line. So, does this mean we can in fact hit volleys very close to the net as long as our feet land *After* we've hit the shot? Maybe I'm misunderstanding this altogether. Any help / insight would be much appreciated!
I'd like too see a top tennis player play Pickleball against a top player like Johns just too see how it would go. Someone like Nadal generates so much top spin in tennis, whereas here it's mostly flat shots and underspin. You can hit over the ball but not with major top spin dips I'm aware of.
Theres videos of former tennis pros playing it but as for the top spin dip, Ive played a bit of tennis and it does have the top spin drop (unsure how dramatic though) which i use it for hitting deep on the third shot (serving team has to let the ball bounce on their side after return)
Does the PB paddles have like a "sticky" rubber like ping pong paddles do? Just wondering how much spin can be generated? We play some serious ping pong. My buddy keeps telline me I need to try PB because I would be decent at it since I am decent at ping pong
The sport is growing; give it time. As of this year, it now has 1,600 participants in tournaments across the country. Prize money is only going to go up. This information is from the 2021 US Open men's doubles tournament on CBS.
Amazing points. Happy to see the two met at the final. They showed all the skills and strategies needed for the sports. And yes Pickleball is a true sport. when everything else is equal, athleticism decided the outcome.
I don't understand why there is not more long game in pro-pickleball. Why don't these guys try some hard backhand shots up the line? There were so many instances here where the entire side was open and the other guy was playing net, but instead he chose a drop-shot. I feel like if a pro tennis player actually tried to play this, they would wipe the floor because of there ability to place the deep-ball.
4:15 is a perfect example. Dude in white literally had the entire right side open. But chose a drop shot instead of putting even a little more force behind the ball and getting it deep to the baseline. Why? It just seems like for some reason it's customary for these dudes to keep the ball near the spike line. There's so much more court to utilize!
It’s a super hard shot to go from moving forward to a lateral movement, to bending low and to hitting a backhand flick up the line. The other thing is if the ball is low and you don’t hit it perfect the other person will just smash it.
@@DanLoneyYeh I got that. But again, just even the most menial training in tennis allows you to do this. And it works! Of course pickleball and tennis are different sports, but the core mechanics are exactly the same - I see too much if “just trying to get my paddle on the ball” and not enough aiming your shots with precision
Yes, it is legal. When he jumps past the kitchen line, he is outside the court. It is legal to hit the ball in front of the kitchen line so long as you are standing outside the court.
This game needs more power and athleticism- rid the no volley zone and for got sakes slide on this court. These guys are super slow compared to someone like Djokovich
It is possible to hit drives from the baseline of the court if you don't hit the ball too high. As you approach the net you increase the possibility of hitting the ball out since the court is so small. Players have also gotten very quick at returning hard shots and deflecting them. The game is won at the kitchen line, the area from the net behind the line that is 7 feet deep on both sides. You don't want your opponent to hit down on the ball, as a likely smash will occur, so players try to use topspin and hit the ball so that it drops and bounces below the net, or 'drop shots.' That way your opponent has to hit up on the ball and a smash is less likely, as the ball will often go into the net, or out if hit too hard. That is one difficulty that tennis players sometimes encounter. They are used to driving the ball from the back of the court with a long swing. You want to get to the kitchen line and dominate the court as quickly as possible, especially in doubles, as most often played. The paddle should meet the ball in front of you and with a shorter swing than tennis. When a ball gets too high and a shoot out begins with the toes of the players only 14 feet across, you have to recover quickly to hit forehand and backhand.
My suggestion to make singles more exciting is that the serve-volley rule and kitchen rule are fine for doubles. For singles, just let them play. People want to see the top athletes being top athletes instead of engaging in dinkfests.
Tbh, this looks well easy, if I transferred from tennis to pickle ball I would be able to do this, compared to pros in tennis, it actually looks hard and that they are skilled. To me, all pickleball looks the same.
There’s a legal serve involving dropping the ball and making contact after the bounce. With this method, you’re allowed to slice the ball/hit it any way you want without the mechanical limitations of the traditional serve you see these guys doing
I played against Tyson about 9 years ago when he was a semi-pro and man was he good then! If I knew he was gonna be this big I would have got his autograph! LOL!!!! tee hee
You can lob it but in upper level tournaments it's generally not recommended because if you're not ready for the return you'll get cooked and the whole other side is open in singles.
For serves: it has to be underhand, hit below the waist. Rules aren't set in stone. A miss is detramential. Some players do add lots of spin which makes it crazy difficult. Don't know why others don't, from my knowledge no rules ban it. For lobs: not very effective when all the top guys are over 6 feet. I mean the court is only a bit deeper than the serve boxes in tennis. And usually lobs in tennis you are trying to hit BACK of the court otherwise you get smashed on.
@@nohaybanda6738 sure thing! The ball has to bounce twice before volleying is allowed. This creates a slight advantage for the returning team, as they’re able to establish position at the net before the serving team. The serving team has to stay back and allow that 2nd bounce, that’s the rule. It also makes the 3rd shot incredibly important as the serving team because if the serving team successfully hits what’s called a 3rd Shot Drop, they can then run up to take the net and take the advantage away from the serving team / make the point neutral. In case you didn’t know, teams can only score points while on serve.
I'm sorry the finesse, sportsmanship and talent of Ben Johns outdoes the theatrics, yelling and grandstanding of Tyson McGuffin any day!!! Congrats Ben!!!!
It’s not really a power sport. The ball barely bounces and there isn’t much spin involved so consequently it’s more of a touch/finesse sport where you’re trying to maintain position close to the net to work the angles.
Why do some of you think you're sharing groundbreaking information when you enlighten us on how the top pickleball players don't have the athleticism nor skill of the top tennis players? Nobody is trying to convince Carlos Alcaraz to ditch his tennis career for this. But not everybody in life is Carlos Alcaraz nor 127 others worthy of challenging him. That's where pickleball comes in. That's where a top-500 or top-1000 tennis player who knows he's hit his ceiling can find an outlet where he can be a champion in his own way.
Wasn’t a fan of pickle ball in the beginning, but now I think it is really fantastic that a sport has been developed that any age can play that requires very little talent to enjoy and be competitive with even at higher levels, while combining a reasonable level of fitness and activity at every level. One can swing away fairly robustly and the ball just about always stays in play and is playable in return. After playing all the racquet sports at a very high levels I get the draw of pickle ball now. Just wish the powers that be would find a way to rid the sport of the horrible “PONKING” noise, that drives home owners and tennis players and anyone walking by can’t stand. Must be and easy fix to adjust ball and paddle with different materials to get similar playability.
Sorry -- long-time tennis player (i.e., juniors, Collegiate D1 play, etc., etc.) here. I cannot abide this sport. And my anus puckers every time I go out to play and hear that horrible plastic-y clanking coming from across the way. The only good news I have for everyone here on this channel is that this, like racquetball in the 80s, is just a fad. People still want to see the beauty and speed of the Djokovic-es (Djokovici?), the Nadals, the Federers, rather than two moderately talented tennis failures plonking away at a whiffle ball. Finally -- the worst thing about this sport? The "kitchen" rule. It's bad enough that serve-and-volley has died a natural death in the real sport.
The sport is growing; give it time. As of this year, it now has 1,600 participants in tournaments across the country. Prize money is only going to go up. This information is from the 2021 US Open men's doubles tournament on CBS.
I’ve played ALL racquet sports at a reasonable level, and pickleball is my all time favorite. Where’s Dustin Brown? He’s being channeled by both these guys
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I’m trying to understand what sets them apart from others..? Trying to not sound ignorant… But I’ve played with so many people that I swear have just as good of a game as these guys.
Why does mcguffens not use a better paddle. Look at all that spin he's hitting the ball with and the ball does absolutely nothing when it hits the ground
Imagine nowadays normal tennis with wooden rackets. Would be masterpiece and such interesting points and worldclass shit. I would be one of the best in the world but ita not that tennis as should be.made for everyone not just fir those who have money to invest in tennis bcs its very exlensive sport to be in. So sad. Imagine how many Federers are in the world more but can not even play on tours bcs money etc. Nole used 2/3 millions from kamata men to be tennis player and thats why he plays that how he plays
Now we all know how John Isner is feeling on a Tennis Court
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jajaj ye
LOL
Johns Isner
That's a funny one.
When u cant decide between tennis and table tennis
and spin terrifies you!
or padel
ive played all. pickle is way funner.
@@thegoldenrooster8376 because you don't have to run nearly as much as regular tennis
@@jettonjets1557 you also have less reaction time cause the courts are small and in your face. Especially singles.
The size of the court and way you play is why Pickleball is so attractive to older people. Less about pure athleticism/speed/power and more about strategy, shot placement, and finesse.
Not only for elder People. I am 26 years old and for me Tennis on a Lay court on my level is very much about running...
And since 3 years i am playing Padel which is so much fun to me because of the tactics, strategy and the possibilities and points in general. But i would like to check out pickleball as well, seems to be very fun :)
Do you think you're a better athlete than these two? I'm not sure how you look at this video and not think there is a ton of athleticism in PB singles.
Really, pickleball singles is tougher, from a fitness standpoint, than tennis singles. Way less time to catch your breathe between points. There is no second serve, and the next point starts up as soon as the server gets the one ball.
@@PeterCacioppi LOL. Do you play a high level of tennis? The comparison is no where close with endurance and stamina. This is glorified ping pong. A pack a day smoker could excel at pickle ball
@@danmeadowsmusic Did you watch the video? These guys are hauling ass all over.
I played high school tennis. I was a 4.0, maybe a 4.5 at my peak. I'm a 4.0 in PB.
Pickleball singles is harder than tennis singles for three reasons.
1. There is less downtime between rallies, because there is no second serve and the points reset faster than tennis.
2. The serve isn't weaponized in pickleball. Smashing a service winner isn't particularly tiring to anything other than your shoulder (and of course, the receiver of a service winner barely gets any exercise).
3. The rallies last longer because its easier to play "past balls". That is to say, its easier to wrist flick a ball that is just barely past you back into play.
You can see all this if you watch some pickleball videos. Just watch pickleball and tennis side by side, and measure how much time is spent actually playing relative to match time. Pickleball has longer rallies with faster resets and fewer service winners. These are simple facts, not opinions.
You might need to watch two 4.0s play pickleball, and then watch two 4.0s play tennis, to really compare. Obviously, tennis pros are amazing at creating long rallies and thus need insane court coverage and fitness. The joke is recreational tennis players might as well be playing a different sport than the pros, and you switch to pickleball to get quality points.
@@PeterCacioppi You conveniently left out the fact that mastering the tennis serve is extremely difficult. In 4.0 tennis breaks of serve are extremely common and service games are much longer because aces are not that common. Is it a weapon when you're talking about John Isner and Kevin Anderson? Yes it is. Regardless, I've watched this video back to back with the FO final of this year, and you if you think that these guys "hauled more ass" than Djokovic and Tsitsipas did, well, I don't really know what to say to you. If you didn't have "quality points" during your 4.5 level tennis matches, I'm sorry, you're probably a 2.5 if none of the points you played were of any quality.
Serve and Pickle.
Chip and Pickle.
The best one in the discipline is Pickle Sampras.
I would like to see Federer and Nadal doing this.
Rafa would still probably stay on the baseline trying to hit 3000 rpm forehands to the opponent backhand. 🤣
@@Editor_Houndomg yeah he would be hitting his 3.5k rpm topspin forehands on pickleball clay 😂
I played Tyson in doubles 8 or 10 years ago and we won in a close three setter and he’s a really good regional semi-pro tennis player. Well, he was. Great athlete. Good for him.
I matched against Johns I don't know how long ago he was good but I well like bageled him
This is a mixture of tennis, paddel and table tennis
3:22 why is fault? I don't know why
With this racket and balls is this possible that both player stay baseline and don't going to the net ?
Coming from tennis, I love these kinds of rallies
Wow never seen pickle ball before. So fun I bet.
why isn't there more lobs? get the ball behind the player?
Wondering how well Federer would do in Pickleball. Completely different game or enough crossover for him to excel?
He would destroy any of these guys in pickleball lol
@@evanfridinger999 You think? I've played both. Federer is fast, moves well, has tremendous skill, and undoubtedly would make a fine Pickleball player, but there are differences between the games that out of the box could make it difficult to beat Johns or McGuffin. I've played some very good tennis players, and they do make good Pickleball players, but they will tell you that while some skills are similar, others are different.
@@paflyfish I think if you give him a month or two of straight pickle ball practice time he would be able to beat these people mainly because the ball is so much slower that he would just be able to beat them even if he had no strategy (which he does have).
@@Collier-gy2ni You are correct that in general the ball is slower in Pickleball, at least much of the time. Most of the game is won at the kitchen line or non volley zone. Players are very close, so the ball can come back quickly when smashed. Reflexes for hard, but also very soft returns, matters. Regarding having no strategy I don't think Federer could win without that. If you've played Pickleball there is actually quite a bit of strategy on where and how to hit the ball. A tennis racket has strings and a pickle ball racquet does not. The pressure for the two differs. I play tennis and pickleball. I often have to remind myself to move away from the ball in tennis. Beating Johns or McGuffin? I don't know about that in a few months. These guys have honed their games and it's taken some time. No doubt though that Federer would kick my butt in a short time.
He’s obviously very talented at tennis, so likely it’s the same with other racquet sports. Yes
My first ever like for pickle ball.
What "fitness" issue? At 1:00.
4:30.. doesn't the ball have to travel over the height of the net?
no. you can go around the net. even in tennis you can go around the net.
@@golfmaniac007 ok cool
I'm new to Pickleball, and I was told you're not allowed to hit volleys inside the Kitchen.
Watching this game, however, it seems like there were many instances where McGuffin jumped forward and hit volleys (Really close to the net) while in the air before landing past the Kitchen line.
So, does this mean we can in fact hit volleys very close to the net as long as our feet land *After* we've hit the shot?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding this altogether. Any help / insight would be much appreciated!
Yes - look up “Erne in pickleball”
Если кто есть из России, есть ли споты в СПБ где в это можно поиграть? В интернете ничего не видно....
Amazing photography.
Can anyone explain why at 2:22 that it was legal for pink guy to step into the NVZ ?
his feet didn't touch the NVZ. He went over it and landed off court so that could be it.
@@Lijearion after that moment his feet are in the nvz
Can someone explain to me what exactly happend at 3:18?
Foot fault. If the ball doesn’t land in the kitchen and you step in the kitchen, it’s a foot fault and you lose the point.
@@kevinjohnson7288 thanks! That's the answer I was looking for.
theres is rg australia and wimbledon too?
I'd like too see a top tennis player play Pickleball against a top player like Johns just too see how it would go. Someone like Nadal generates so much top spin in tennis, whereas here it's mostly flat shots and underspin. You can hit over the ball but not with major top spin dips I'm aware of.
Theres videos of former tennis pros playing it but as for the top spin dip, Ive played a bit of tennis and it does have the top spin drop (unsure how dramatic though) which i use it for hitting deep on the third shot (serving team has to let the ball bounce on their side after return)
Most top pickleball players were top tennis players
Now that Roger Federer has retired, it would be fun to see him play pickleball.
@@mdv9831 he still has 20 more years till he’s at his pickle ball prime
Think the ball and paddle doesn't give the same top spin as a tennis racquet would
These guys are so good!
Does the PB paddles have like a "sticky" rubber like ping pong paddles do? Just wondering how much spin can be generated? We play some serious ping pong. My buddy keeps telline me I need to try PB because I would be decent at it since I am decent at ping pong
no rubber or sticky stuff. i play table tennis too. i like both but i would prefer playing doubles pickleball.
You're going to have a heck of a time generating spin and maintaining control of your hits. Worth a shot. It's a lot of fun.
@@golfmaniac007 Thank you!!
@@danielmeltzer1284 Thank You!!
defuk is this?
Only $2500? Must be organized by seniors.
Only? For that shity sport? It is more that enough
@@DiegoPerez-wv8ml let people enjoy whatever the fuck they wanna enjoy.
The sport is growing; give it time. As of this year, it now has 1,600 participants in tournaments across the country. Prize money is only going to go up. This information is from the 2021 US Open men's doubles tournament on CBS.
@@DiegoPerez-wv8ml is pickleball threatening your tennis existence? hah must be tough for you
Tennis the best racket sport ever.
Amazing points. Happy to see the two met at the final. They showed all the skills and strategies needed for the sports. And yes Pickleball is a true sport. when everything else is equal, athleticism decided the outcome.
The athleticism is drawn from a very small pool so it's not the best athleticism!
@@maxwelldewinter Once it gets more popular, the sport will discover more talent.
i like tennis much better
@@OmegaMouse yeah it wont. This sport Will never get popular world wide. It's something fat americans play so they can say they do sports.
and the lob?
What is this sport?
What’is this tennis?
I remember playing a game like this in infant school with a ball that had wholes in it, or sometimes we used a sponge ball.
4.34 - 4.37 That's undernet hit, and it counts?
que deporte es este?..
you are not allowed to slice the ball ?
I don't understand why there is not more long game in pro-pickleball. Why don't these guys try some hard backhand shots up the line? There were so many instances here where the entire side was open and the other guy was playing net, but instead he chose a drop-shot. I feel like if a pro tennis player actually tried to play this, they would wipe the floor because of there ability to place the deep-ball.
4:15 is a perfect example. Dude in white literally had the entire right side open. But chose a drop shot instead of putting even a little more force behind the ball and getting it deep to the baseline. Why? It just seems like for some reason it's customary for these dudes to keep the ball near the spike line. There's so much more court to utilize!
It’s a super hard shot to go from moving forward to a lateral movement, to bending low and to hitting a backhand flick up the line. The other thing is if the ball is low and you don’t hit it perfect the other person will just smash it.
@@DanLoneyYeh I got that. But again, just even the most menial training in tennis allows you to do this. And it works! Of course pickleball and tennis are different sports, but the core mechanics are exactly the same - I see too much if “just trying to get my paddle on the ball” and not enough aiming your shots with precision
Why don’t they get right on top of the net and smash the shots down?
Can't step into the net on a swing unless if the ball bounces. That's what makes it challenging
Is the volley at 2:11 legal? He volleyed and then jumped past the kitchen line. I think that's against the rules.
Yes, it is legal. When he jumps past the kitchen line, he is outside the court. It is legal to hit the ball in front of the kitchen line so long as you are standing outside the court.
@@drewhaslam3209 Thanks for explaining!
This game needs more power and athleticism- rid the no volley zone and for got sakes slide on this court. These guys are super slow compared to someone like Djokovich
For those complaining about the size of the tennis court, your dream has now come true
Touch tennis is way better game than this .
4:35-4:37that was called fair 😂😂
why they don't simply smash the ball when approaching to the net??
It is possible to hit drives from the baseline of the court if you don't hit the ball too high. As you approach the net you increase the possibility of hitting the ball out since the court is so small. Players have also gotten very quick at returning hard shots and deflecting them. The game is won at the kitchen line, the area from the net behind the line that is 7 feet deep on both sides. You don't want your opponent to hit down on the ball, as a likely smash will occur, so players try to use topspin and hit the ball so that it drops and bounces below the net, or 'drop shots.' That way your opponent has to hit up on the ball and a smash is less likely, as the ball will often go into the net, or out if hit too hard. That is one difficulty that tennis players sometimes encounter. They are used to driving the ball from the back of the court with a long swing. You want to get to the kitchen line and dominate the court as quickly as possible, especially in doubles, as most often played. The paddle should meet the ball in front of you and with a shorter swing than tennis. When a ball gets too high and a shoot out begins with the toes of the players only 14 feet across, you have to recover quickly to hit forehand and backhand.
Do they have Hawkeye…not convinced at 1:33 that volley was totally legal?
My suggestion to make singles more exciting is that the serve-volley rule and kitchen rule are fine for doubles. For singles, just let them play. People want to see the top athletes being top athletes instead of engaging in dinkfests.
There should be a variation like this for sure.
Outlaw volleying , make a rule where the ball must bounce once, then you will get bonafide baseline rallies.
and what is the ball??
The Babe Ruth of Pickle Ball...Ben Johns
Amazing play!
Tbh, this looks well easy, if I transferred from tennis to pickle ball I would be able to do this, compared to pros in tennis, it actually looks hard and that they are skilled. To me, all pickleball looks the same.
Honestly, Pickleball (doubles) is not fun to watch. You have to play it and when you do, it's a blast.
Very difficult to be into this sport when you're basically a tennis fan...
I've commented on other posts that they need to disallow volleying this would make pickleball much more like tennis.
@@jamesswain2465 Pickleball isn't supposed to be like tennis. It's supposed to be pickleball. If you want to play tennis, play tennis.
This is not a sport. It's a game, like tetherball and foosball
@@JeanAlesiagain3it is now there’s utr ranking systems for it
At 3:42 was that ball IN?
Por fin un deporte donde puedo ser el GOAT😁😁😁😁
So it tennis for people who can’t handle speed?
you can't really do much with the serve. Can you not put slice on the ball?
There’s a legal serve involving dropping the ball and making contact after the bounce. With this method, you’re allowed to slice the ball/hit it any way you want without the mechanical limitations of the traditional serve you see these guys doing
Measly $2,500? Come on, man. These guys deserve much better.
There is only about 50 spectators?
2:30 That must have been a pretty nasty spin for the other guy to hit it out afterwards.
I played against Tyson about 9 years ago when he was a semi-pro and man was he good then! If I knew he was gonna be this big I would have got his autograph! LOL!!!! tee hee
This game is missing two things. More exciting, less predictable serves and overhead lobs.
It's missing rallies.
They have pretty good handling, not sure why their serves are so mediocre. They should add spin or something
You can lob it but in upper level tournaments it's generally not recommended because if you're not ready for the return you'll get cooked and the whole other side is open in singles.
@@alexvanroth175 Its also missing pickles.....
For serves: it has to be underhand, hit below the waist. Rules aren't set in stone. A miss is detramential. Some players do add lots of spin which makes it crazy difficult. Don't know why others don't, from my knowledge no rules ban it.
For lobs: not very effective when all the top guys are over 6 feet. I mean the court is only a bit deeper than the serve boxes in tennis. And usually lobs in tennis you are trying to hit BACK of the court otherwise you get smashed on.
fabulous the both of them
did i miss something, is that real?
Why?
Is this tennis for kids or something
Why 100% chip and charge?
Dominating the net/kitchen gives you the advantage.
@@kevinjohnson7288 thank you for your answer, I am trying to understand this sport. And why is serve-volley not possible?
@@nohaybanda6738 sure thing! The ball has to bounce twice before volleying is allowed. This creates a slight advantage for the returning team, as they’re able to establish position at the net before the serving team. The serving team has to stay back and allow that 2nd bounce, that’s the rule. It also makes the 3rd shot incredibly important as the serving team because if the serving team successfully hits what’s called a 3rd Shot Drop, they can then run up to take the net and take the advantage away from the serving team / make the point neutral. In case you didn’t know, teams can only score points while on serve.
@@kevinjohnson7288 Thanks so much for clearing this up, I had no idea! I am a tennis player and this looks like great fun to try out some day!
I want to destroy thes players bcs I played with wooden racket normal tennis. How can I participate in tournamebt like this?
You can't. Because tennis is normal, and you are not.
That'll buy you one heck of a blumpkin, Cotton!
who did ben johns lose to?????????????????????????
So nice! Is it illegal volleying from the red area close the net?
Yes, it’s referred to as the kitchen
@@williampriddy178 Thanx man.
@@williampriddy178 1:28 but here he did hit the volley inside the red area and nothing happened
@@S6brapoiss_Tupsu If you look carefully you can see that he jumps over the red area and lands outside the lines. That is a legal move.
OHhhh I didnt know you couldn't step into the red bit.
you can step in it,
I wanna try this
When mom wants you play tt and dad wants you play lawn tennis
Why, why?
I'm sorry the finesse, sportsmanship and talent of Ben Johns outdoes the theatrics, yelling and grandstanding of Tyson McGuffin any day!!! Congrats Ben!!!!
so there are basically no baseline rallys
It’s not really a power sport. The ball barely bounces and there isn’t much spin involved so consequently it’s more of a touch/finesse sport where you’re trying to maintain position close to the net to work the angles.
If 2 players want yes
Why do some of you think you're sharing groundbreaking information when you enlighten us on how the top pickleball players don't have the athleticism nor skill of the top tennis players? Nobody is trying to convince Carlos Alcaraz to ditch his tennis career for this. But not everybody in life is Carlos Alcaraz nor 127 others worthy of challenging him. That's where pickleball comes in. That's where a top-500 or top-1000 tennis player who knows he's hit his ceiling can find an outlet where he can be a champion in his own way.
i wonder if this sport will develop like tennis where net play has become virtually obsolete in singles
Don't think so. Courts too small to stay back.There's no reason to stay back.
A lot of people play back in solos. Duos not so much.
The sound the ball makes should be edited
Bro it’s so weird how in pickleball they shake hands between games
Tennis, badminton, ping pong, padle, ..., this
This is so similar to Touchtennis, but I prefer those racquets... This are beach paddles
Hey I thot tournament rules said contestants can't weigh in under 200lbs
What kind of sports it is!
One of a kind😉
Funny algorithm RUclips. First time I see this sport. Looks entertaining though
Tyson McGuffin! I am your big fan!
Wasn’t a fan of pickle ball in the beginning, but now I think it is really fantastic that a sport has been developed that any age can play that requires very little talent to enjoy and be competitive with even at higher levels, while combining a reasonable level of fitness and activity at every level. One can swing away fairly robustly and the ball just about always stays in play and is playable in return. After playing all the racquet sports at a very high levels I get the draw of pickle ball now. Just wish the powers that be would find a way to rid the sport of the horrible “PONKING” noise, that drives home owners and tennis players and anyone walking by can’t stand. Must be and easy fix to adjust ball and paddle with different materials to get similar playability.
This!!
Sorry -- long-time tennis player (i.e., juniors, Collegiate D1 play, etc., etc.) here. I cannot abide this sport. And my anus puckers every time I go out to play and hear that horrible plastic-y clanking coming from across the way. The only good news I have for everyone here on this channel is that this, like racquetball in the 80s, is just a fad. People still want to see the beauty and speed of the Djokovic-es (Djokovici?), the Nadals, the Federers, rather than two moderately talented tennis failures plonking away at a whiffle ball.
Finally -- the worst thing about this sport? The "kitchen" rule. It's bad enough that serve-and-volley has died a natural death in the real sport.
@@josephbarbarie692 yeah, well i can't stand all the grunting in tennis. get over yourself
@Tom R the rallies would only last 2-3 shots if that were the case
“Pro level only” lol
2,500? For the final? I know nothing about this sport but these guys seem severely underpaid.
How much should they be paid for drawing a crowd of 30 people?
The sport is growing; give it time. As of this year, it now has 1,600 participants in tournaments across the country. Prize money is only going to go up. This information is from the 2021 US Open men's doubles tournament on CBS.
its also probably just for fun and people arent playing as a profession ... but yes money isnt shat out from nowhere so thats the way things are
Way better than 2v2
I’ve played ALL racquet sports at a reasonable level, and pickleball is my all time favorite.
Where’s Dustin Brown? He’s being channeled by both these guys
I'd love to watch Sampras against Federer here 😁
I once played Pickleball at a school camp
Does anyone actually take these sports seriously? I mean the umpire is just holding a clipboard like a PE teacher!
shuffle board anyone! i fell asleep after the first point
Patty-Cake tennis 5.0? In most rallies, neither player hits the ball very hard, they just mostly scoop it, trying to get the opponent out of position.
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Americans plays sports that no one in the world plays😂😂
I’m trying to understand what sets them apart from others..? Trying to not sound ignorant… But I’ve played with so many people that I swear have just as good of a game as these guys.
Why does mcguffens not use a better paddle. Look at all that spin he's hitting the ball with and the ball does absolutely nothing when it hits the ground
Imagine nowadays normal tennis with wooden rackets. Would be masterpiece and such interesting points and worldclass shit. I would be one of the best in the world but ita not that tennis as should be.made for everyone not just fir those who have money to invest in tennis bcs its very exlensive sport to be in. So sad. Imagine how many Federers are in the world more but can not even play on tours bcs money etc. Nole used 2/3 millions from kamata men to be tennis player and thats why he plays that how he plays
Ben uses more Ping Pong skills than Tennis!
Pro badminton players can adjust to this fast-paced playstyle
Lowkey these guys actually seem good and athletic. There’s potential. Doubles looks horrible though. So crowded.