Dear Jozarov, I would like to add some notes to the game. First, there was a very risky but spectacular sideline, beginning with 12.Bxb5 axb5 13.Nxb5, which leads to a very complicated game after 13.- Ra4! This line was played already in Shirov - Kasparov, Linares 2002. A possible line would be 14.b4 Qh4 15.0-0 Rg8 16.c4 f4! 17.Qxa4 Rxg2+ 18.Kxg2 Qg4+ would be a great draw. Second, after 21.- d5 White could create better chances with 22.Ra6!, which Stockfish itself evaluates as equal (0.00).22.Bg4?! was the first step away from the right path. And third, after 30.- Qe8 , 31.Nc2? was a blunder that ruined the game. Stockfish instead analyzed 31.Qe3 with better chances for defense, e.g. 31.-Rc8 32.R1a5 Rd8 33.Ra7 Rg8!, and Black is better, but not that much as after the continuation played in the game. Maybe you find this interesting. With regards, Torsten from Germany
It is interesting that 18...Rc8 is regarded as best since at the highest level the theory there is 18...e4 and ...Rc8 has generally only been played a little lower down the ladder. Also incredible is that Italian IM Pierluigi Piscopo had the position after 19...Rc5 twice in a single month (May 2009), first with the white pieces and then with black, managing to win both games. In each case, the divergence was 20. Bf3 instead of 20. Nb4. Finally, if we had gotten 19. 0-0 instead of 19. ab, we would have reached the position from one of Evgeny Sveshnikov's own games, one that he actually lost in to Pablo Ricardi. While Stockfish may make this look effortless, it really isn't at all easy for mere mortals.
I got the Rook to C8 move, Josip... I was looking for the most radical move possible! I didn't get the second, third pauses. I did get the fourth, Bishop take Pawn to H2. I got it because it looked the most dangerous and felt it totally break White's king defense apart. It was a great game!
The game starts of as a Sicilian four knights and Nd6 is not ‘a huge positional threat’. Bb4 is ok for black if he wants to keep the game in Sicilian four knights rather than switching into Sevisnikov Sicilian.
I always play this as black and in the sense of one move logic this is best opening as you put e5 with tempo however from human perspective white always have concrete plans so yeah... its naive of me to play this always ( btw i never double my f pawns i play the line with bishop take back on f6 after white takes my knight then Bg5 and put my b knight on e7
As far i can tell, you choosed the worst defense for black at 14:39. Why not rook from f4 to f7 , blocking the check ? Sure its maybe still lost for black, but i would say that defense is still better than you showed at 14:39 , just to support the narrative why rook c5 to h5 is a bad idea.
Thank You Sir for making such fascinating videos!
Thanks Josip, fantastic game by the Fish. Your content is some of the best chess content on RUclips, so easy to follow and informative!
Thanks. Great choice and comentary. The Fish is a tremendous help in these days..
That was a fantastic win by the fish. Thanks Josip.
Please create a series on this defence
You have 13 videos in the playlist in this opening. At the end of the video is the link
nice commentary!!!
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Nice game and simplification, thanks as always for your watch.
Dear Jozarov, I would like to add some notes to the game.
First, there was a very risky but spectacular sideline, beginning with 12.Bxb5 axb5 13.Nxb5, which leads to a very complicated game after 13.- Ra4! This line was played already in Shirov - Kasparov, Linares 2002. A possible line would be 14.b4 Qh4 15.0-0 Rg8 16.c4 f4! 17.Qxa4 Rxg2+ 18.Kxg2 Qg4+ would be a great draw.
Second, after 21.- d5 White could create better chances with 22.Ra6!, which Stockfish itself evaluates as equal (0.00).22.Bg4?! was the first step away from the right path.
And third, after 30.- Qe8 , 31.Nc2? was a blunder that ruined the game.
Stockfish instead analyzed 31.Qe3 with better chances for defense, e.g. 31.-Rc8 32.R1a5 Rd8 33.Ra7 Rg8!, and Black is better, but not that much as after the continuation played in the game.
Maybe you find this interesting.
With regards, Torsten from Germany
It is interesting that 18...Rc8 is regarded as best since at the highest level the theory there is 18...e4 and ...Rc8 has generally only been played a little lower down the ladder. Also incredible is that Italian IM Pierluigi Piscopo had the position after 19...Rc5 twice in a single month (May 2009), first with the white pieces and then with black, managing to win both games. In each case, the divergence was 20. Bf3 instead of 20. Nb4. Finally, if we had gotten 19. 0-0 instead of 19. ab, we would have reached the position from one of Evgeny Sveshnikov's own games, one that he actually lost in to Pablo Ricardi. While Stockfish may make this look effortless, it really isn't at all easy for mere mortals.
I play lot of games like SF but only by intuition and some understinding in blitz or rapid thanks Mozarov for interactive learning (play like SF)
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Love how the close caption calls this the Lazor Pelican Defense.
Nice pawn sacrifices.
I got the Rook to C8 move, Josip... I was looking for the most radical move possible! I didn't get the second, third pauses. I did get the fourth, Bishop take Pawn to H2. I got it because it looked the most dangerous and felt it totally break White's king defense apart. It was a great game!
The game starts of as a Sicilian four knights and Nd6 is not ‘a huge positional threat’. Bb4 is ok for black if he wants to keep the game in Sicilian four knights rather than switching into Sevisnikov Sicilian.
The Lasker Pelican is very interesting but so many players these days play anti-Sicilians like the Rosalimo.
I saw b4 and d4, but only by intuition.
Me too, again intuition only.
I always play this as black and in the sense of one move logic this is best opening as you put e5 with tempo however from human perspective white always have concrete plans so yeah... its naive of me to play this always ( btw i never double my f pawns i play the line with bishop take back on f6 after white takes my knight then Bg5 and put my b knight on e7
The problem with this line and some in the Najdorf Sicilian is that you have to be OK with gxf6. It's not for beginners.
what about d4
As far i can tell, you choosed the worst defense for black at 14:39. Why not rook from f4 to f7 , blocking the check ? Sure its maybe still lost for black, but i would say that defense is still better than you showed at 14:39 , just to support the narrative why rook c5 to h5 is a bad idea.
Very complicated game!
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