N.O.R.E. & Big U Reflect On Tupac & Biggie Beef And How The Diss Track "LA, LA" Came About
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2pac’s been gone for over a quarter Century, and he’s still being talked about. The man is the most influential Hip-Hop artist.
I believe he’s more remembered because of his attitude and the way he acted. That’s why lots of gangsters like him and them are the ones that keep him alive. Even wannabe gangsters Tupac touched. Even people that wish they had the balls to say what they want are fans of him.
If you say no…. Than tell me this. Pac and his music let’s say he just did his music. But in the streets he wasn’t in the presents of gangs and didn’t say shit openly while in the public.
Tell me would he be as big now?
Under those circumstances?
If you are sane and comprehend what I just said . Would he be the same now. And I said no?
He wouldn’t be talked about this long. So he is remembered more for the controversy he did than his music.
Tupac doesnt act the way he did if he wasn’t with the mob
One other thing I meant to post with this… thanks for the like and it just reminded me.
I’m no square posting this shit. Im what people call in the street a real one. I done did dirt, done hustled drugs and not no small shit. I lived off of the money. Didn’t have no job.
But I say these things because I was around these kind of people. Many people from all walks of life from killers to squares.
I knew real gangsters and the way 2pac was brought in the mix of being mob. Is fugazi… mob James ain’t the only one upset about 2pac just being let in. Lots of members felt a certain kind of way about that. They may not have said it out loud, but they don’t have to.
2pac was killed by bloods. Bloods/cops. Possibly by dudes from the same set. Maybe not buntry, neck bone or any of them close to pac. I’m talking the ones in the set that wasn’t included in the whole Hollywood treatment group.
I’m talking about real bangers that may have seen that whole act as an insult to the work they done put in.
PAC was not a gangster, he never was.
The whole reason why he’s dead is because of his own actions. You ever hear what happens to people when they want to be the center of attention? I’ll tell you what happens to those people. Shit happens to them and 8x out of 10 it’s negative. When you go sticking your nose in someone else’s garbage or bring your garbage, your business to the public?
Ain’t nothing good about either.
It’s so bad for 2pac because first off he already hated by gov. He comes from a former panther and not just any panther but one who got over on the gov. So automatically he is hated. What did he do to cool the situation? He put his nose in others business and shot what he saw was two white men. Come to learn the cops. That’s not what he needed. Had he knew they was cops, he ain’t shooting them. But he brought on more intense hatred to himself by getting involved. He’s already hated!
What else did he do? Well he kept hanging around stupid people and got a sexual assault charge and that’s a title no one likes let alone give another reason for police to want you more.
That’s his personal life.
So now in his professional life he brings drama to work and in the midst of making film he and his good buddies come on a set and jump. Not fight. Jump one of the film directors? He also continues to talk more crap on many people involving the studio shooting. You can only blame one, but he was blaming everyone but the rest of the attendees at that studio. Their was a lot of people at that studio. But he just handpicked who he wanted heat with. One being jimmy and when it comes to henchmen that includes Haitian jack and company. You got you guys there.
But he went even further to blame big because he was just there. Tell me this. What if big wasn’t there? I wonder would he be that crazy to still stick with the HE KNEW AND DIDNT TELL ME.?
It’s clear he didn’t like puff and Andre Harrell.
He knew big had no control over what jimmy and his people did to him. Those guys were extorting them also.
So he gets in a fight with suge, their been statements made by bodyguards that pac was mad and that money was being stolen from him. There is talks of him saying he’s out after makaveli, he did the audit on his home boy.
And remember he wants out, he had to fight to get money when time came to get paid.
If this is me… and my business partner is fuckin me. Clearly no trust. I don’t trust anyone fuckin wit my money. That’s my livelyhood.
So why the fuck is this man attending this fight with this individual I can no longer trust.
Why am I going. Better yet. Why would I ride with him and not my homies who is do trust and bodyguard?
It’s clear he doubted his gut, he was careless and probably a bit pussy.
All the signs were there if what could happen. You got contracts that were needing to be signed to break away from this company, and lining up your next venture makaveli records.
If those was in play. Why put yourself in such predicament? You are the soul provider of your family. Lots of people depend on you?
Why would you do that??
Because ladies and gentlemen it’s one of the two. The man wasn’t smart and very stupid….
Or he quit on his family and sacrificed himself and do you know what else it was for?
Just to say or leave this world…. But at least I wasn’t no punk and I didn’t go out like a sucka….
Remember that saying Richard Pryor said on Harlem nights…. What he said to his son Quck?
Here lies a man he died at 36 but he ain’t no punk!!
What did Mr Pryor say after?
that’s bs! To die and say he wasn’t no punk.
But do you know. When you die, when you’re 89. You got your kids around you and your grand kids around you.? That’s Cool!!
Remember what is said here brothers and sisters. You have e a choice.
What I can take from Mr Shakur is. Don’t be like me, do it better and make the most intelligent choice. That’s to live….
That knowledge I just kicked. If I was a Blackman and I had a platform like in entertainment.
If I spoke that same speech… I would be looked at as a dick Gregory, Malcom, or just a leader activist of my people.
There is righteousness in the person standing by you. It’s just we tend to refuse to not listen. Because they aren’t famous??
Wisemen and women are around it’s just you didn’t focus in on what was being said.
No rapper will ever be talked about this much. Rip Pac
"Niggas talk a lot of shit, but that's after I'm gone
'Cause they fear me in the physical form"
Best response ever
When Nore says Kurupt looked his red coat up and down and says
"I can't do it cuuuz" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pac stories never get old. Like I said no rapper breathing or dead ever be able to be on Pac level. This man gone 25 years later and still praised as he was alive today all over the globe. Long Live 🐐 Makaveli The Don aka Tupac Amaru Shakur Pinnacle of this Rap sh**. Yes Sirrr 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
ruclips.net/video/V-fvacdElUc/видео.html think bro
Tupac the greatest period
Miss you pac
No body AND nobody can never get to pac greatness
Pimp C holds down a close 2nd to Pac. 2 kings from different regions.
YOU SEEM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CULTURE.
HOW MUCH IMPACT HAVE YOU HAD?
TALM BOUT ANOTHER MAN
LET MANS REST
I want Big U to co-host all future drink champs. He's the first one to keep Nore on subject in the history of the show
Truth be told.
😂😂💯
@stryfetc1 I wasn't there and won't pretend to know what happened, but from what I have seen he loved nip and worked to build his brand. I doubt he was involved
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Y'all really need to stop doing this. You don't know nothing so stop with the "I feel like" crap. Keep that negativity to yourself.
@stryfetc1 on the hot97 interview recently he said him and nip got back on good terms, and nip wanted to bring him back into the music, he was in nipseys “rap niggas video” and gave him an award at some show right before nip passed....basically they became cool again before the nip passing.
Pac was no joke, he figured them all out … he knew them more than they knew them selves
Y'all give this mfer too much credit I swear!!!
Facts!!
Pac stories never get old rip to the legendary man 100
Hell be forever legendary!
I'm so glad I got to hear East coast West Coast discuss the whole beef and say what's on they mind after all these years
tupac shakur name is immortal. he's a revolutionary. he belongs to the people. pac ain't dead. turn him up !
Big U love to Press! Lol....priceless
Theres so much power sitting at that table. Respect 💯
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Fr though. I'm so grateful for these platforms being able to bring us gems like this! Only the real appreciate it for what it truly is man! People throw around the Legend word so much these days but these are true living legends right here!
“Ahhh... I just can’t do it cuh”😂😂😂
Big U not being completely honest here... Kurupt and Snoop were dissing Bad Boy right after their trailer got shot up. All this bullshit about Pac being the only one dissing folks is not true lol snoop and them just switched up aftet the fact and made Pac look like he was wilding
Facts, you can find those songs online
Facts... snoop and kurupt were dissing the east coast before that happened on some of pac’s unreleased songs, Dre did to
m.ruclips.net/video/wD90jfRilXQ/видео.html
But Pac was wilding. Period. No matter who else was on that bullshit with him. Look where it got him and look at where the ones who fell back on that shit are now.
Ok, I like all these artist. I've heard nearly all thier music.....many times. The dogg pound has 0 songs dissing the East Coast before 95. Give me some songs please 🙏???
2pac 4 life
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@@rovolttv5856 nah I’m ok thanks mate
@@ysaleem7820 lol you good yea mate
Always ❤❤❤❤
This should go down as one of the best drink champs episodes
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Wow seeing nore get cut off for once lol
Say what u wanna say about Pac but guess what? nobody is mentioned and admired more than him! Shit aint been right since he left, every damn store and website has Tupac shirts all over it etc.. He's the best ever respect that man for doing so much by the age of 25.
That's yo opinion.. Pac ain't seeing Nas or hov or big
@@brooklynbred6184 Pac already saw them niggaz and they had nothing to say and I love Nas.
Gtfoh hov a bird Pac the goat nas 2nd big to me like 6th cube 3rd fuk jay z
@@brooklynbred6184 pac had all of them shook in person..
@@_Tahmar I meant rap wise.. But pac wasn't a gangsta
Best interview of the year so far!!! 🏆
They feared Pac in the physical form
Not even 🤣
Nah they laid pac down quick tbh
@@4saxon7 its facts! They was all quiet in the industry when Pac reigned supreme. All the talking started after he was killed
@@4saxon7yes they was tho 😂 NY rappers weren’t coming to the west coast at the time!!!! They were scared!!!
@@mgee1723 yeah some real street niggas did. Not these fake ass industry dudes
I'm from Seattle but about 6 months after 9*11 I got thee opportunity to go 2 New York for work and I was ready to go the very second I was offered thee opportunity! I spent 2 years living at Queen's & 2 years living a couple of miles outside of Boston in Stoneham, Mass. Anyways while in New York I remember that 1 of the 2 hip hop stations on the FM Dial had a Tupac Tribute/Memory Hour the station would play back to back to back Pac tracks as well as celebrity stories about Pac as well as listeners/fans calling in and adding there thought on Pac! It was nothing but 1000% Love being sent out to Pac via New York City Radio Waves no disrespect to B.I.G. (never that!) but he wasn't getting that play & love like that back there then! I want to say that they did that hour Pac love thing (and that's just what I'm calling it to memorialize what my ears often witnessed while working at N.Y.C.) but I think it was an everyday thing Monday thru Friday with a 1 hour time slot dedicated to Tupac Talk & Song Play! I've had a brain aneurysm and a couple surgeries because of that and my memories often get stuck in my brains clutter so if anyone can recall what I'm talking about and fill in the blanks for me like what station was it, was it every night or every Friday or once a month, who the d. J. Was that put that together, & etc I'd appreciate it from the bottom of my ❤️ for real! Peace*Love*Music From Seattle Y'all! 206 😷🤐😷
Ms. Debra spoke straight facts!!!
She was wrong
@@TheNyion912 Yea She was
The dpg always try to just blame Pac but they were dissing big and the east too. Look up ny187
I see u kno ya hiphop history homie 💪🏾💯
@@tedbundydagod but that was after big got them shot at in NY right? My timeline could be off. They never put that track out so I never look at it like a serious diss.
@Boochie Nem that’s a good questions.. it might be after Big went on the radio and said that. But on the real thought that NY 87 is a flat out diss to NewYork as a whole. The WestCoast act like they innocent to the EastCoast WestCoast bullshit. Shit we was rob of a lot of great artists because of that bs. Smh
@@tedbundydagod I would have done the same thing. Think about all the ny rappers that use to shoot videos movies ect...on the west and go home unharmed. But when the west does a video in NYC we get shot at? Then big said 2pac and the dog pound I never understood to this day why he said pac. He just got out most people had no clue there were a problem with big and pac. I'm from midwest so I have no dog in the fight but from outside looking in it definitely looks like NYC pour the gas on that fire.
@@hitking683 yea it was after the radio station call that Big did. Pac was in jail at the time but the "East vs West" shit was already brewing.
"GIVE US THE STEAK"
"No, he's with me"
Yoooooooo lmao
U winning wit this one big homie the whole podcast u have up there are solid individuals.I Love when king and Queens get together n make money that's the definition of being Gangster
Only interview I could watch twice!!!
This is so dope...
But let's be honest, Pac had everybody on notice and niggas didn't want that smoke
facts
Cause they know it's just misunderstanding from Pac side
@Panoris Holiday yeah right my ass
Facts.
Nobody was scared of pac. Everybody pac went against knew pac was trippin so why bother.
Good conversation
New York New York came out 26 years ago and was a lyrical ass kicking . I couldn't tell you one bar from LA LA . Facts !!!
Kurupt murdered that beat forreal.
Facts. I still listen to NY NY almost everyday. They killed the video too.
L.A. L.A. was mega weak. Tim Dog's Fuck Compton smashed harder on the west coast and he called out names.
@@blackpegasus1807 I give you that one . He snapped on they ass for real . LMAO
Kurupts verses was better than everybody's on LA LA!! Not even close
Pac till the world blow!!!!
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Facts
Allday long
Idol worship is pathetic
MOBB DEEP WAS THE ONLY GROUP OR ARTIST FROM N.Y. RESPONDING TO 2PAC DIRECTLY, THAT'S THE FACTS.....EVERYBODY ELSE WAS THROWING SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES OUT THERE!!!!! MOBB DEEP THE ONLY ONES I RESPECT CUZ THEY HAD THE BALLS TO DO IT!!!! EVERYBODY ELSE WAS QUITE AND SCARED!!! FACTS!!!!
FACTS!!!
The thing I liked about pac is he would say names and let everyone know who he was dissing while rappers were just throwing subliminal shots.
@@illmatic9096 don't you know Bad Boys move in silence and violence? If you really want to do something to somebody you don't say names. Mobb Deep never said 2Pac's name on "LA, LA" or "Drop a Gem". Prodigy did on a mixtape once.
If you don't say the names it's sublims
You're from NY aren't you?
Lyrically kurupt went crazy on NY NY, back when he was one of the coldest MCs out . LA LA is alright but NY NY is better imo
Kurupt held down the track basically alone with Snoop on the hook, the OG version of LA LA was more of a diss track with the intro than the released version, although Trag held it down on the LA LA track, Prodigy should’ve got a verse in my opinion although he left his one for the Nas track Live Nigga Rap
Facts
I love 2pac biggie stories
You love LGBTQ rappers like pac huh 🤣🌈🌈
@@orlandobabylaneanderson5231 🤡🤡
@@orlandobabylaneanderson5231 clown
@@orlandobabylaneanderson5231 dude u have a pic of a Orlando anderson as ur profile pic if u not a fan that's fine but don't be calling another man gay and have another dude as yo profile pic that got clout because of the artist u dissing 😂
@@familyfirstnation4605 i don't show it easily in the comments like you lgbtq pac tribe do 🤣
That East Coast West Coast rap War put a major dent on the east coast rappers based on location.
Big U stay 💯
exactly Deb, imagine how many lives could have been saved by just one conversation
Love how Big U bullied the horn from EFN 🤣🤣🤣
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Ellmao
Staystrong keep the faith
Like n.o.r.e always entertaining with his stories speaking real facts big up yourself nore
Dope luv from brooknam
Notice how Nore change the subject after Big U bring up some real shit....
What the sista was saying is pure hardcore facts right there
Love this Show N.O.R.E.
I love my people 🙏🏿❤️💪🏿 Thank you God for making me
This is hip hop history frfr 😂😂💫⚡️🗣
I noticed something. When Deb spoke, everybody listened.
Because she sounds like a big man
Who is she ?
@@wes209 wakas moms. She manage rappers n shit. She well respected
Oh 0k I recognize her now. 👌
It’s a lot of power at this table 💪🏾💪🏾
Ms. Debra soooo on point
This shit is legendary. East Coast, West Coast, Mid West💯
Only thing missing is an O.G from the South
Trick trick didn’t make hip hop and when he start claiming crip and calling cops on people
4:39 Ehhhh I cant do it cuz 😂😂😂
Nice,show,keep it com
This is dope
Old head story tellers are priceless
Nah fr bro we gotta protect the Old Head story tellers they’re priceless
@@cordarrocurtis4817 How you gonna protect them. You gonna take a bullet for them?
@@frontandcenter7941 😂😂😂 frfr
& it's not particularly the story that is being told but it's the way that it's being told.
Nore was a hitter, he don’t have enough knowledge on the situation to answer Deb’s why question lol
If you know, you know
@@ODANNEK elaborate please
@@modzook more was known for busting his guns no matter the situation. Real street guy back in the day
Revolt tv is the best
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Is that uncle Trick Trick? I gotta watch this one, too many OG’s in this clip.
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pac was the truest and he will alwyws be
the greatest of all time
BIG FACTS!!!
Dmx is truer
Pac was truly a fake thug
It's true that pac got slumped by the greatest crip of all time
@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 WE WON'T SPEAK ON CRACK MAN X, WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE, WE ALL KNOW HE CAN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO 2PAC, BIGGIE, NAS, OR JAY-Z......I STILL LOVE EM THOUGH ❗❗I LIKED JA RULE BETTER ANYWAY!!!😇
2pac still number #1
Great share... #tupac #biggiesmalls #thedossierpodcast
🔥🔥💯💯
Haha LA LA was a weak response they ought to be glad Pac even acknowledged it NY was hatin hard
Yeah ny known for bein haters
Deb dropped nothin but knowledge
Speak on it Deb!!!!
Big U said Dogg Pound’s “New York, New York” record was showing NY respect. That’s something new. NY cats always had respect for Kurupt cause he could straight spit. He was and LA dude but came from Philly so his understanding of wordplay was relatable. The thing that came across as disrespect is making a song called NY NY and then on the song saying “...the night I served 10,000 MC’s...”. Kurupt later on told a story how he came to NY and battled a bunch of random dudes and destroyed everyone. But at the time with all the tension it came across as a diss to artists in NY. Nobody knew he had battled all these dudes .. they thought he was talking about established artists in the game. Got love for both coasts and down south. Grew up on all that. Real is real and love is love.
exactly sista - lives could have been saved. i feel you...
Deb talking that shit 🧠🧠🧠👀🧿🙏🏾
Don’t you love when OG’s speak
This show would be much better if it wasn't always chaotic, over talking. Can't sit and watch this for long periods of time.
Too many people talking at the same time!!
Only thing i hate for sum reason nore was not allowing big u to finish explaining that situation were they shot snoop trailer up and frank Alexander had to protect them n bring everyone back home safe
Exactly!!Big U was on point here!!Alot of those old NY rappers always take shots at Pac like he was just some emotional irrational nigga when he actually had reason to move how he was moving
@@nigelryan5658 pac a whole thespian
@@mrfantastic9966 and you a whole weirdo 🤣exit stage left
@@nigelryan5658 facts 100
Ppl don’t know that influenced hit em up but everybody swear biggie and them was innocent smh
NY rappers will always have a gripe with Pac because he shitted on them so hard
He ain’t shit on nothing.. Pac was a big mouth dude .. Btw Pac is a New Yorker ..
@@largegod77 he really did tho 😂 & I know
And because he was from there and repped LA and the westside more
@@CoolTy23 Yeh & then he got killed by niggaz from the same place he was claiming was better .. go figure ...Pac was all ova the place , confused & had a identity crisis
@@MelvinMansoor him and his family got more love from LA than New York
That sister spoke factz❤✌️
How the hell did I miss this episode Deb dropped some Jewels damn…
I feel him about Kurupt kinda... he from the east coast and was stationed on the west he needed those east coast fans in my opinion
He rapped like he was from the east!
Cause he is.
kurupt verse from ny 87 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Facts beyond facts
THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH..
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Basically, Nore was clout chasing
69 prime example of what they speaking on at the end of this.
The truth is finally coming out. It took 25 years but people are finally falling it now it was
no problem, yep it's like you gotta take someones word...
THE SISTA SPOKE THE FACTS!
Man everyone wants to act like Biggie didn’t instigate by calling the radio station telling people to stop “2pac and dog pounds video” (even though Pac wasn’t there)
Does miss Deb have a platform? I’m subbin’💯👀🤓
Let's drink to that I love drink Nore and this show
Nore will forever have to talk about LA LA no matter what lol
‘ We didn’t know if they was dissing but we wanted to respond cause we’re from New York’
Cashier: ‘sir this is a Wendy’s, what’s your order ‘
@@TheKenkennyg 😂😂😂
He's the only one being asked about it tho.. Hav n Capone don't do too many interviews. Prrodigy could clarify a lot too
@@TheKenkennyg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
every episode 😂😂😂😂
Good interview. But NORE jumping over what Big U said on Trick to talk about a booty song? 🤦🏾♂️
He said nah not me us😂😂😂
I watched a few whole episodes of drink champs, love the show, but they need to chop up more segments into shorter videos
John Singleton said Doughboy was based on FatBacc from Hoover.
Facts john was raised on 101st and Vermont
I also heard Deebo was based on Big U, but nobody (extortion) ever asks
NY historically was always on some bias shit towards everyone outside of the 5 boroughs and hell there's bias within those boroughs too. Unfortunately when it came to music ( more specifically rap music) they had a superiority complex towards westcoast artists and south artists. I remember growing up in Sacramento and I heard Tim Dog dissing Compton ( Fuck Compton) I remember Funk Flex talking about how westcoast slang was funny style, referring to the use of dog... Then when DMX came out it was all about dog this dog that. The thing is growing up in California we didn't act like that towards the East. We listened to all of their music. I think what put the West over the top in the 90's was the film industry and the crisp production and real music behind the artist vs the traditional sample and loop.
Now look at New York claiming west coast gangs and trying to gang bang😭😂😁
Its because New Yorkers come from a heavily immigrant background so they naturally have a 'us vs them' mentallity especially against African Americans. Think about it, Tim Dog, Biggie Smalls and Funk Flex are all Jamaicans. Noreaga (Puerto Rican) and Capone (Haitian)... Chino XL too. All the other New York rappers with family ties to the North & South Carolinas etc like Nas, Wu-Tang etc were actually cool with the south and west.
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@@sahulianhooligan7046 Finally someone that can see the truth! New York is all Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Barbadians, Belizeans, etc.
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East coast emcee were far more lyrical than the west back then, not now! Jersey
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Yo NORE funny as hell "it's Us Nigga"
"No, i can't do it cuuuz" had me dying with laughter. Dudes can't even keep warm over a name on a jacket. Damn, the hate was strong back then!
Kurupt refused the red coat cuz he's a Rollin 60s Crip. It had nothing to do with NY or Yankees
It's red, not NY
Kurupt put up a lyrical display of a execution for NY Hip Hop in the NY NY diss song. LA LA is a good song but compared to NY NY is whack. Did the video in NY ❗😉😉
Talk that talk . New York New York came out 26 years ago and was a lyrical ass kicking . I couldn't tell you one bar from LA LA . Facts !!!
New York New York wasn't a diss song; the video was after some cats shot at them in New York.
Yeah that was a crazy move lol but almost got popped up for that disrespectful shit😉
The song itself isn't a diss. The music video is.
@@KasanovaKee325 i agree
Debra spoke facts! I elect her as the Hip Hop Ambassador.
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Mama dropped the MIC!!! Everyone just sip, puff and stop tahwkin!
Nore you need to have notes you go by. Why? Because you interrupt critical conversations mid-point
MOBB WAS THE ONLY ONES THAT RESPONDED DIRECTLY DIRECTLY NOT SUBLIMINALS !!!
Nore changing the subject quick
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When they started talking real shit nore went to talking bout booty bounce