We Formed an Anti-Vehicle Crew and it was AMAZING! - Both Perspectives! - BF2042
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Timeless Gamer and I teamed up in Battlefield 2042 as a Rao and Crawford in order to figure out whether a dedicated SOFLAM player and an Anti-Vehicle Engineer could do. We play around with the RPG, the Javelin and then discover how amazing the STAFF shells on a MBT can be when you have a dedicated tagger!
I really think we found something amazing here! The STAFF shells are usually pretty garbage, but under these conditions, function as practically artillery! I would strongly recommend teaming up with a recon and playing around with these!
Let me know what you think of the format. I've personally never seen this kind of dual perspective done in BF2042 and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
Please be sure to check out these channels for some excellent BF2042 Content:
Timeless Gamer's Channel: / @timelessgamer4359
Cabal2040's Channel: / @cabal-ms3kb
Contents:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:01:04 - The RPG-7V2
00:01:51 - The Javelin
00:09:43 - The MBT STAFF Shells
00:17:01 - Some Last Clips
00:19:49 - Outro 
Игры
As someone who plays with 1-2 other friends, and who's always looking for innovative ways to leverage having a communicative (but sometime only end-of-week-dad levels of energy) squad, this looks like a sweet strategy to test out.
I would completely and utterly recommend it! It was so much fun, and the enemy team had no idea what was going on! You can tell by the first scene in the video that those players really wanted to take us out xD
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This was absolutely brilliant fun & one of the best BF nights I've ever had. Absolute pleasure getting some game time in with you & Cabal, I'm sorry we didn't get more time whilst I was in London! This was my first time ever playing Rao / Spotter and it's fantastic when running with a partner / squad. This was a good night -- let's do it again when we're both in somewhat near time zones / server locations :D
So many good kills in this and I love the dual view, it's really worked. The STAFF shells were something special, mobile artillery -- I had no idea it would be so effective & fun. We did well! I'm still mad about the AT Mines and the Condor though, we deserved more! Great vid, and thanks for pulling it together it really exceeded expectations seeing both POVs together!
It was great to watch . 👍 Definitely trying this out with my squad. Especially the STAFF shells lol
@@GalwegianGaming Post a vid when you do, I'd love to see it!
@@timelessgamer_UK I'm a streamer mainly so I'll probably try it live . I don't make many edited videos honestly
@@GalwegianGaming right got it -- I'll catch the replay when you do.
Team Work makes amazing things work 🤙😉
My favorite part was when Bryan died @17:49.
In all seriousness, glad to have helped. Always down for more. TY so much for the shoutout as well :) GGs! And I learned something with the staff shell portion.
Poor Bryan, such an underrated guy.
I'm definitely up for teaming up some more! They just brought Control back if you enjoy that!
No worries. I like helping other good channels. But next time save your attack chopper run ;) I think a Both Perspectives could be good there xD
@@marzipandan767 Ya control is great. You flyin' or am I flyin'? :) Take turns?
And yeah I'll definitely record and keep the vid.
Great to see you and Timeless Gamer teaming up. I loved pulling this strat off in BF4. Just get a third person as Angel for nonstop rocket uptime and you're probably unstoppable against vehicles.
If we'd of had a third person reloading we could've gone full on tower camping. One for the future!
Yeah, it was sad when the Javelin party had to come to an end because the rockets had dried up!
Thanks for commenting, I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
Oh, Dan, this episode had me rolling down memory lane like a rogue tank in BF3! Watching you guys form an Anti-Vehicle Crew took me back to the good ol' days of the Javelin squad and the ever-infamous tower on the Caspian Border. Remember when we thought we were invincible up there? Good times. Your teamwork in BF2042 was as smooth as my dancing at a construction site - dangerously coordinated! Keep up the great work, guys. Looking forward to more hilariously tactical warfare. The enemy vehicles won't know what hit 'em!
Thanks for your support as always Aberbear. I'm glad I could take you back to the good ole' days :D
I loved nailing snipers camping that Caspian tower (and still do) :P
As someone who used to frequently play with voice coms, it's the best advantage over the enemy. It ups the game for everyone in the squad and the problems in the game are reduced. Even just a reliable source of ammo for engineer or repairs and/or jumping out to defend against infantry is invaluable. And mostly, fun.
I completely agree, but I feel like as of lately people don't use in game comms anymore. Not just in BF but in most games these days, the comms channel is like talking to yourself. I honestly miss meeting new people through games.
@@marzipandan767 Yeah, it's really only for friends and/or people in your community, if you have a gaming Discord server or similar where people who are part of something can play together without really knowing each other. But it's much more rare oddly enough now that it's more easily available than ever.
Nice vid man . Love the dual view !!!
Thanks for the feedback. I think it worked pretty well so it is good to hear that others agree!
I play battlefield solo. This kind of gameplay is a fantasy to me. What a joy to watch and hilarious moments 😄
Such a great video. The weapon info was great, but the team play with friends was outstanding. GGs guys!
Thanks so much! Really glad you enjoyed it :)
Thanks man! I'm really happy that you enjoyed it!
This game is top of the line with it's sandbox elements. One of a kind in a good way. Team coordination, and possibilities of tactics is on another level. Since launch.
I agree, it has come a long way, and I am thankful for Dice not just immediately cutting ties after the failed launch.
Now if they can just reward this kind of gameplay in a way that makes players want to play like this then I think it could be really great! Unfortunately, I think C5 is just much more convincing for players to run since it's easier, has more immediate feedback and doesn't depend on other players paying attention. I low key hate C5 xD
@@marzipandan767 i like c5 because it is available with more than one class, and promotes utilitizing destructible environments to flank or use to create a safe path out of direct line of fire of the opposing team. It can even be used to create craters for additional cover. Craters can be cover for mounting a bipod as well. In open terrain lacking cover. The downside of C5 being available in multiple classes is that C5 death is more common. I should mention that if the teamplay playstyle becomes rewarded and more commonplace, there will inevitably be balance issues with using combined arms tactics. Does that mean it may remove how much sandbox freedom is currently available in the game if Dice decides to patch gadgets, vehicles etc. In favor of balanced teams and teamplay? If this teamplay becomes more commonplace? Possibly. Or new tactics may be conceived by the player base to counter the ones that begun first.
My servers are 95% engineers
I wish my servers were 95% engineers! Mine are 70% assualt... I hate assault XD
I actually have seen a couple of variations of this style of video before mainly with the perspective of each youtuber on their own channel but also the split screen like you guys have done a couple of times and I think it's a really great way to showcase teamplay. I'd love to see more but I'd suggest each of you having your perspective as the big screen on your respective channels and maybe if you could have some full matches like this would probably be very cool. In any case great video guys I really enjoyed it and learned something... staff rounds don't suck with friends
Sadly we live on the opposite sides of the planet -- it was a limited time only event whilst I was back in London for the summer. We'll try again whenever I fly back with the family. So what are you suggesting just so I'm clear -- we each post our respective versions of the game without the other's embedded in the corner? So people watch the same match twice?
I did ponder that idea, so that Timeless could also get some of the traffic directly. But I questioned whether people would watch the same video twice.
I tried to make it so that whenever he had a better view of the action, that was the focus of the video.
Nevertheless, thanks for the feedback! I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
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Awesome job, guys!
Thanks for your support, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic video! Really gives off those old school battlefield vibes with the squad play.
Thanks! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. It was a blast to play and put together, so I am happy that people seem to be enjoying the perspective!
That was good, i'll definitly try that tank strat someday
Very enjoyable!
Definitely do! You NEED to have a dedicated recon helping you out, otherwise the STAFF shells are strictly worse than the other two choice of shells.
Have fun! And thanks for commenting!
Nice video. It reminds me in BF4, as a gunner in a tank. it was possible to equiped the soflam and the driver the staff shell. That was so fun (particulary on Golmud railway)
We terrorised and destroyed the heli players. 🤟 Good job guys!
Thanks a lot! Was a lot of fun, definitely looking to do it again.
I would love if they gave us a designator as a secondary weapon on seat 2. OR if the Commander seat (seat 4) could swap out the spotting function for a designator. This could absolutely make the Staff shells much more viable!
6:00 see how stupidly short the flare CD is... love the video btw
Oh yeah, lock on weapons are definitely not the best way to deal with choppers, even with a soflam player supporting you :/ Best go with Lis or the Wildcat's main cannons.
Great stuff, both the teamwork and dual view presentation.
Awesome! I'm glad to hear that you enjouyed it!
Love this! More!
Really glad you enjoyed it! I think there's a lot more we can get out this setup, especially if we can find a third to act as Support...
Thanks for the feedback. I'll talk to the people I know and if I can think of good teamwork pairings, I'll try to coordinate something. Right now, I'm focusing on some more guides :)
Glad Timeless gamer recommended this video. This brings back memories of when me and my buddies would get on bf3 &4 and did this all the time.
It was a really great time. I miss those BF3 and 4 days. It seemed that there was such a larger player base back then, and all of my friends played those games too.
Love it! Great video!
In addition to the low splash radius and damage, the STAFF shells have another shortcoming compared to the other options in that they reload slower as well. You can fore 4-5 shells of MPAT or HE in the time it takes to fire 3 shells of STAFF without a target lock, which doesn't matter too much if you're firing around cover in a way that takes full advantage of the homing characteristics but is valid criticism in most circumstances where you could just be popping in and out of cover between shots or lobbing shots over cover.
They used to be more useful too, in addition to being able to lock on to marked targets for bonus damage, they used to be able to acquire their own lock-on in a similar manner to how the smart missiles on the Bolte do, which covered for their weaknesses in solo-play by making it very difficult to miss a shot but didn't make them overpowered because they still had the lowest damage output. However, apparently, some people took issue with the fact that the shells could hit so reliably as long as there was some level of visual on the target and had the feature gutted.
BTW, that bit at 12:45 where the guy seems to be avoiding every hit might be faulty hitboxes. It looks to be a Wildcat and that missile pod they have up top can have especially dodgy hit registration, most shots that connect with that missile pod do no damage. Because you're lobbing shots at it, all but that first shot probably hit that missile pod or failed to track the moving target and landed behind the vehicle.
I definitely got the feeling that in a fight with a MBT with MPAT shells I would still lose if I had locked on STAFF shells. The damage increase is only minor with the locked shells and the fact that you need to reacquire the lock everytime really slows you down. Definitely great if you plan on using it long range and shooting over cover... amazing even.
The shells used to be bad, I personally like their updated iteration.
It definitely seems like some hit box mischief is happening here. I guess my concerns were compounded by the fact we weren't the only ones shooting them, you can see some engineers from the boat start going at them with some rockets, the Hind is on top of them and then they get literally climbed upon, until finally dying. I've never seen anything like this before xD
Thanks for the input Gremlin! It's nice to have good knowledge like this added to the comments!
Also, consider you have an extra person who can man the weapon pods for infantry close by.
Your 2nd man being Rao means he can hack close by tanks + emp grenade them. Ideally, rao should also be using AP grenade launchers.
Having the second man, in my opinion, makes up for the STAFF shells' disadvantages and places it no1, Locking onto chopper is nuts.
The STAFF shells didn't used to be great damage dealers, but it is a shame that they traded the one thing that made them viable for solo tankers for just a small increase in marked target damage.
The bit of auto-aim they used to have offset the lack of damage and reload speed by making them accurate even while on the move across uneven terrain and without direct line of sight, while the conventional MPAT and HE shells would require the tank to slow down or stop for accurate shots at range unless they're travelling on a smooth surface such a road. They weren't great shells but they were at least viable for certain playstyles while solo, now they're basically useless unless you have someone willing to stick around and mark targets for you.
I wouldn't mind the change so much if they had moved the STAFF shell over to a different slot like they were in BF4 instead of forcing it it replace your main shell. They're just worthless without that other player, and become too much of a liability whenever that other player goes down. I would even settle for them just giving one of the seats a laser designator like we had in BF3 and BF4, so that other player wouldn't need to be out and exposed all the time when marking targets.
@GremlinSciences Yeah, I totally agree with you on all the points.
At the same time, you could run MPAT shells and have that P2 be running Engineer to keep your health topped up and send some extra firepower downrange without hindering your own ability to deal damage when they inevitably go down. Or, assuming you're already running with a squad of 2 other Engineers, you could fill that last slot with a Support to keep everyone topped up on rockets/missiles instead of needing them to go Recon so they can designate targets for you while fully exposed to enemy fire. @@markmc5112
That’s brilliant - wish I had someone to try this with. I need to make friends 😂
Same I need a squad
don't feel bad -- I had to fly 13.5 hours across the world to finally get a game with Dan :D
@@timelessgamer_UK I hope it was worth it
Hi my friend, I use to do that in BF4 alone, using the sniper Soflam and Korner launcher in maps like Paracel Storm etc... 😅 Liz and Rao are my favorite specialist's
Lis is absolutely one of my favourites for solo play -- she's unstoppable if she wants an aircraft :)
I miss the Korner Launchers so much. Dice need to add more stationary weapons around capture points! It meant that you had weapon to defend with if you were a class that didn't have anything to deal with vehicles. Plus, the Korners especially were so much fun to use!
@@marzipandan767 Exactly, like we use to have in all maps until bf2042.
I loved staff shells on bf4, worked well with stationary soflam
The staff shells on BF4 were awesome. Since they worked as a secondary weapon on MBTs, I would run those and just completely dominate ground armour, because you could out DPS people who had the machine guns as their secondary. There was also no reload penalty from going between your regular shells to staff, so you could fire one after the other almost immediately!
excellent work, thanks for the info
Thanks for commenting, I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
Your issue with that one tank with that one that took a lot of shots was that they were all hitting the containers
That seems like the consensus. On my end it looked like the shots were landing behind the crates, which is why it was so frustrating!
I enjoyed the hell out of this video. Every kill made me want to close out my browser and jump into my own game. 😅 But I stuck around until the end. Thanks!
I appreciate that, but I cannot blame you. I especially want to play more with these STAFF shells. They are an absolutely blast!
Glad you enjoyed it, I'm getting a lot better with Rao as a Spotter. The guy has some secrets I never gave him credit for.
Man I love your videos, awesome
Thanks for saying! I appreciate your support :D
This looks like SO much fun, especially since those who really have mastered the use of air vehicles are such an unstoppable force, that a lone anti aircraft player has a hard time countering them.
I noticed how frustrated I was when I played one of those throwback games (BF3 setup on Arica Harbor), where 2-3 opponents were farming kills using the attack chopper and the A-10 Warthog.
Luckily I got hold of the Tunguska AA tank, and through playing carefully I swept the skies. I think the guys air farming were unused to effective anti-aircraft play, therefore a bit arrogant and careless, so I downed them something like 6-8 times, whereupon they left the game. :D
They could easily have farmed a part of the map where I was not, or coordinated their attacks, but instead they kept coming at me one at a time, and I could stay over at the container harbor part of the map, where it's possible to find protected spots to repair the tank.
Still, it was SO satisfying to be on an even playing field with the air force.
I love ruining the day of pilots who are only playing to farm infantry. It's one of my favourite past times xD Glad to hear you enjoy it as much as I do!
Thanks for commenting!
I believe in the case of that wildcat, the shells were hitting map objects. They don't top down attack, but come in at an angle, as if they were gliding.
You might be right. I could have sworn that they were getting over those crates, since it looked like the explosion was being visually blocked by them. Additionally, my team were shooting rockets and the Hind came in to do some damage and it just wouldn't go down xD
I like how you kept getting robbed by someone else who saw a recon was spotting. Haha
I'm just glad to see other players were out there -- what made me quietly chuckle is up until this vid every time I tried to spot solo I was completely ignored. Now suddenly everyone wants to play! Hey I'm cool with it, a kill is a kill for the team :)
If the team is dealing with the enemies, then I'm happy. :)
Makes a change from the usual situation of SOFLAMing, and no one paying attention.
people realöy underestimate the stuff you can do with soflam. Nice video
Yeah 100% That's why running it can be meh, randoms never lock on. It's probably the best spotting tool in the game
I agree with everything said in this thread. The soflam is really underrated, but the reason it is, is because you really need to communicate to people that you are using it. Using it with randoms can very much feel like a waste of time :/
First time watching your videos and really enjoying the game play.
Nice! I'm glad you found the channel!
Assault class takes care of enemy infantries.
Engineer class takes care of enemy vehicles.
Support class takes care of team members.
Recon class takes care of intel.
That is the ultimate team.
It's surprisingly hard to get anyone to drop ammo packs for rocket reloads. Great guide!
It really is. I always shoot at them and jump in front of them and spam the 'I need ammo' request xD It works probably about 70% of the time. More people should be throwing them whenever they see anyone, especially since they reduced the cool down rate at which you can deploy them.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting!
I miss having the BF3 ability for the 3rd seat to laser designate from the tank.
I completely agree, especially since the spotting seat (4th seat) has been completely outdated since they let you spot enemies regularly. Replacing that with the designator would be ideal, it would also make these kinds of tank builds be viable!
Regarding your question how the wildcat survived so many shots: the STAFF shells curve very harshly very quickly. Meaning they get low really fast. And the wildcat in the first instances was just close enough to those tank carcasses to block them
And after that it drove directly behind containers
I guess. It just looked like the explosion was being obscured by the crates. Then when my team started firing rockets and the Hind came in and it still wasn't going down, I was very much confused xD
Great video
Thanks! I'm glad you think so! I appreciate you commenting!
Nice anty vehicle , been missing this since bf 3. Can you also please point out what attachenents are you using in the SFAR assault rifle?
Lol the RPG has lockons. That's hilarious.
This has been the case on all (modern) battlefield games. If a vehicle has been tagged by a recon any of the launchers can lock on. I know it's not realistic, but it's fun so I don't mind xD
@@marzipandan767 Since they now have such a ridiculously high velocity a better balance, for it's capability to lock on, would be for it's turn radius to be dramatically less than a regular lock-on missel.
I've been killed in less than half a second of the missel warning popping up because it was a smaw or RPG. Because it's too darn fast yo!!! It'd be great to be able to dodge them at long distances.
@@heritic1hero Oh yeah, if you know you are tagged by a soflam, Rao or tracer dart in an aircraft, you best have your finger hovering over the flares button since M5s and RPGs give you absolutely no time to think. It's also rough since most pilots are used to flaring Stingers which are really slow! So it goes against all the muscle memory you built up.
That rules!
It's a blast, try it out :)
I like it!
Been trying to get this to work. But never had enough support on a server to be able to. I had at one time 40-50 spot assists with the SOFLAN. But really that was only infantry. Does RAO's hack take the stealth out of stealth? If so, he is the worst nightmare of that helicopter... Specially with the SOFLAN. Im thinking 2 Rao's or atleast two Snipers with SOFLANs spread out over the map to cover more... That way any Rocket man can get a good chance. If it's Rao's they can hack the targets that meens no Flairs. But you need 1 Support with ya then! Im not sure 1 Engineer will get it done fast enought to stay alive. Cause once that is out, you will be the primetime target!
Rao's hack does indeed pull Stealth Helis out of stealth mode, and blocks them deploying flares. What's also good is the Hack can disable Active Protection, so make any vehicle with it defenceless. Having had a good evening with Rao, I honestly think that 2 Rao players can SOFLAM cover the playable map area and about 4 to 5 could cover the same with their Hack trait. I reckon 7 to 10 people dedicating themselves to aircraft denial (Recon and Eng with M5s / Javelins) could effectively stop any aircraft from entering the map (killed on spawn). You just need a front and mid row.
@@timelessgamer_UK Amazing, thanks for comment.
Thanks, I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
It's definitely something that you will want to team up with friends to do. Otherwise, you won't get enough spots if you are playing as the engineer, or enough nearby rockets if you are playing as the recon.
It is worth trying out if you can, we had so much fun and were an actual menace to the enemy team. And there are definitely tweaks we could do to make it more efficient. Thanks for the comment!
wait a minute... RPG can lock on marked targets!? Wut!?
Yep, even the wildcat barrage missile can lock.
Always has been?
@@thebigsam The RPG and barrage missiles?
Yep ^.^
They also added the STAFF shell and Attack Chopper Smart-Rockets to be able to lock-on lasered targets.
@@saladv6069 It's just sad that they took them away from the MAV so now only the Wildcat has barrage missiles :(
@@xraselver7634STAFF was there since the beginning too, I think? It was heavily bugged tho until they fixed tanks and added active protection to them
I’m curious if y’all could have someone soflam and someone else lock on right after, so it’s near-instantaneous and allows you to fire just as the soflam locks on.
From what I gather from experience, if you want the Javelin to do a top-down attack you need to start your lock AFTER the tag square appears. If you don't it will do a normal attack even if the vehicle becomes tagged while you have the lock.
Nice!
Jesus, the STAFF shell is actually insane with some teamplay, good job guys.
Would be fun watching Dan & Timeless run the bolte and try dominating the enemy's vehicles.
Thanks! The STAFF shells were superb, I definitely want to push this further now we've done the tutorial 101 evening. On the Bolte, having a dedicated 50mm gunner would be huge. I've also seen people pitch the idea for incendiary and anti-personnel. I need to take this to the lab...
@timelessgamer4359 Running a Rao, and Liz combo in the bolte. You two would be a menace. The 50mm does some good chip damage on heavy also.The onlyy annoying thing with the 40GL is you have to shoot all 8 to reload.
Honestly, they are probably one of the most fun weapons to use in this game *IF* you can have someone to spot for you. Otherwise, they are just bad :/
We can try to do more. We had a small window where we were both in close enough timezones that the lag was bearable for us both. Usually, we cannot play together because one of us has +200 ping.
@@marzipandan767 1st time I have seen the combo I was very surprised by just how much the staff shell tracked it's targets. Really enjoyed the Vid, I like how we can see both perspectives constantly.
Can jets lock onto lazed targets (using their AA)?
Yeah and AG for air vehicles
You can lock onto any tagged (Lazed) targets irrespective of whether that device can normally do it. So for example, if you tag a chopper and a friendly has the Anti tank Missiles equipped on the Wildcat, which normally CANNOT target aircraft, they WILL be able to lock on to that chopper.
Same with if you tag a tank and a friendly has a FXM 33 (The anti air stinger) they will be able to lock onto the tank and fire at it!
This video proves lone wolves can only do so much. Definitely a team based game
There is a lot of fun content locked behind teamwork. Soflamming, and tagging in general, is very unfun if you aren't getting feedback from a friend. Let's hope Dice can add something to give the recon player more feedback when they are actually contributing.
Swear to God it's like only British and Australian people are nuts at battlefield, subscribed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's the baked beans which are constantly flowing through our brains. It makes us unstoppable xD
Thanks for subbing!
If you are a full squad of friends communicating you can demolish the enemy vehicles. Unfortunately I was playing solo and got bored after 1 month.
Feel your pain. Everyone ignores my SOFLAM when I'm playing alone. This was the first time I actually got to see it's value.
Honestly, I don't think that it is everyone ignores SOFLAM, I think that the feedback you get when you are SOFLAM'ing isn't enough for you to feel like it is worth it. People definitely use it, but you only get any sort of feedback if they kill the vehicle and most times that isn't going to happen. If they could just have a message pop up after every hit which told you 'Tagged target damage: X' it would feel much more impactful.
I was playing yesterday with the tracer dart, and I messaged the team before the game to let them know my plan and that they should run JAVs. I only got one assist the whole game despite tagging everything I could see. I definitely got more hits than that, but because I didn't see them and didn't have any feedback it just felt like I was wasting my time :/
This really shows that aircraft are invincible in battlefield. All they have to do is fly away when they pop flares. The only ones you killed were those that did not fly away.
A few didn't get away despite trying, and some unlucky Stealths got hacked before they flared & died accordingly. But yes I see your point. For those pilots, you need Lis. I hope this doesn't come off as arrogant because it's really not meant to be -- but I've never met one pilot who couldn't be killed. Sure some are a hell of a lot harder than others, but the only way a pilot survives is if the other team allows them to. What shocks me is just how many players totally ignore aircraft in this game.
@@timelessgamer_UK Lis's missile can be heard from across half the map. Any decent pilot could evade it. So again, only works vs oblivious noobs.
The reason why everyone ignores aircraft is just that - they are almost impossible to kill.
Why waste time trying to get that couple of kills, if you can just focus on the infantry and have fun.
It is really difficult to kill good pilots, and I am starting to think that the nightbird could use a maneuverability nerf, but I do also think that lock on AA weapons are more of a deterrent, than a solution. The Wildcat, Lis and in some regards the TOR are the only main solutions to good pilots, what we need is more options that require skill. Give us a SRAW launcher that works like a portable TOW missile. Put some stationary AAs on the maps like on reclaimed. I've also found the RPG and M5 are really good for getting pilots who like to farm infantry a little too close.
should I mantain the tank locked with soflam always or with the first lock is enough for other player to lock and shoot?
If the rocket has been fired, you no longer need to hold the soflam. Engineers can only lock on when they see that same square icon on vehicles that you see. Once that disappears, they will be unable to lock on.
In addition to that if you soflam something, I believe it will remain soflammed for a few seconds when you stop using the device.
thanks!!!!!!!!!! fantastic video! @@marzipandan767
Yeah...old news, but funny. best is on Kaleidoscope. I Tiered 1 both SOFLAM and Recoiless. Which is better than the Javelin. RAO with Soflam, Angel with Health box and Irish against revenge from hellies
I think normally I agree with you. The M5 is better. But with a dedicated SOFLAM player, the Javelin is actually a really good weapon.
I'm an RPG appreciator over the M5 :)
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¡Realmente me alegro de que lo hayas encontrado útil! ¡Muchas gracias!
Man i need to try out the staff shells
This was my first time seeing them in action too -- bloody brilliant. I also really respect the top-down Javelin strike, it makes a huge difference.
I can't stress this enough, if you don't have a dedicated spotter or anyone on your team tagging, they are really bad.
But find a friend willing to help out and you can have an absolute blast! Let me know how it goes!
@@marzipandan767 well we (4 man) had a good time with the staff shells, managed to get a kill while blasting the shell over the big renewal wall and also got more while hiding behind a hill and shooting the shells over it :DD
@@KissaKassKot Woo! Hearing that you had a good time with this makes me super happy! Really glad that people are trying this out!
It's like using artillery right!?
@@marzipandan767 yep
Also managed to shoot down a heli trying to hide behind the C flag building in kaleidoscope after it flew there to wait the flares to re stock lmao
How do you manage ammo? A friend of mine tried javelin, while i was soflaming, but bro ran out in 2 shots, and fucking then what??
You definitely need someone else around to provide ammo if you want to make this your full gameplan. An Angel who knows how to use the Loadout crate.
Unfortunately, most players don't drop ammo often, so this is hard to do consistently. I'd recommend a MBT with the STAFF shells as a good alternative.
Soflam is so under rated in this game
Agree -- this was the first time I got to see it's actual ability and I still don't think we got to the bottom of it. Looking forward to developing this some more & seeing what else we can produce.
@@timelessgamer_UK you be surprised how quickly you can chase a helicopter away from an area even when working alone with it they never hang around once you use it
I just want more feedback from my tags. I use the tracer dart and that means I tag and run, so most of the time I have no idea whether my tag did anything unless someone scores a kill with it, which doesn't happen too often.
Javelin is so under used but great on open maps, eventually a recon sees your game and people stop using vehicles, can turn a game….
Honestly, I think the weapon is quite weak compared to the other launchers. I would only use it if I had a dedicated recon player because the top down attack and damage is so good.
I also think that it SHOULD be able to lock on to tagged targets without line of sight. Otherwise it is very difficult for players to use unless they are coordinated. If Timeless and I were not communicating and keeping very close together this would not have been as successful as it was.
Wait so the rpg7 does less damage if it locks on?
Yep! It deals M5 Damage, so less. I mentioned this in my RPG and AT grenade video. I think it will be patched eventually, but it has yet to be addressed!
Yooo I need a good crew like this
It's an absolute blast man. I would absolutely recommend it!
This looks great, until someone swoops in with the wingsuit and blows you up with c4...oh wait, its c5 now.
That's why you always have to be on the lookout for flying squirrels. Thanks for commenting!
Sadly lasering is still so underpowered and almost not rewarded at all in this title.
There has been feedback and massive support for it to improve in the EA forums, but we still have to see some actual work done on it.
The biggest issue is your Randoms ain't gonna lock on to it. Lasering is balanaced and maybe overpower when done correctly. And the soflam also acts as the best spotting tool in the game, and you get plenty of XP from that.
@@markmc5112 Almost noone uses either (the lock-on or the SOFLAM).
I agree it can be very fun, but when comparing it to BF4 for example it is pretty weak.
You lose lock extremely easy, it's often buggy and takes longer out of nowhere, you have bigger maps but shorter ranges for locking, vehicles have smoke and APS, lock-on-time is longer, different "styles" of locking either through walls or directly make it even harder, only the Javelin shoots from above, you get either low rewards for spotting or almost nothing when the target has been spotted already and just gets shot down no matter how many players there were.
And since it requires specific teamwork and coordination there should obviously be an incentive to playing as a team.
I don't even get properly rewarded for doing it either. I never get designation assists when people destroy things I lock. Assists in general can be wonky.
I completely agree with this whole thread. More feedback (and reward) needs to be given to people tagging vehicles, since you can't be expected to sit and watch them all game to see if you manage to get a hit. Even if it is just some noise or a message 'Tagged vehicle hit for x'. Otherwise, it is just so pointless feeling.
You tell most players: "You can take this C5 which can destroy a vehicle that gets close, OR you can use the SOFLAM or Tracer dart and any Engineers who are around *might* do some damage thanks to you, and you won't know you are helping unless that leads to a kill". Then everyone is just going to take the C5 and count on themselves.
I want recon to be a good class to benefit engineers so that team play feels more natural to players.
Sad that railgun tank can do same thing just by himself. Great game design
With the rail tank you need line of sight with your tank. But I agree, I do think the TOR isn't a good thing for the game :/
The staff shells are insanely fun if you can team up with a buddy to get them to work.
@@marzipandan767 The TOR is only one vehicle (some maps allow 2) on the map at any one time and they're very easily killable. Could you imagine what this game would look like if there were regularly say ten pairs like us playing on each side every round? We'd never see another heli video again, they'd all be swatted before their 10th kill. Even that would be rare...
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BREAKING NEWS: modern BF players discover teamplay for the first time
To be fair, BF needs new players in order to try to come back to some sort of relevancy. Right now, the franchise is probably in the worst spot it has ever been. Dice need to not mess up the next game.
@@marzipandan767 What dice needs are developers who're looking at the battlefield ip as more than just a paycheck
@@protonjones54 I really do think that EA is the problem more than DICE. I think that as soon as BF2042 flopped on release EA took most of the staff and moved them to other projects. But the reason that BF failed was that EA was chasing other gaming fads AND the money instead of doing a good battlefield title.
Right now I think the skeleton crew left at Dice is doing their best.
To bad without a teammate your lost im most cases. I mean there is hardly any efficient teamplay is BF.
I agree, it's a shame but I think that if you want to promote teamplay you need to force the hell out of it. For example, if you want your squad to work together and you are playing support you need to stick to them like glue, rez them every time they go down and keep them stocked up on ammo, even if they don't return the favour at first, they usually get it eventually.
@@marzipandan767 I heard this theory in an other video so I’ve tried, but boy, most players only pick assault. If you look at a normal scoreboard and see how many people actually revive and resupply. 10% at most?