Lovely episode installing a new Ship Shape mattress aboard Indiana, frolicking and examining the many shapes prior. We can't thank you enough, sharing this with us is quit unique and genuine. Can't wait for your next episode and we pray that your time together is blessed with joy.
Thank you very much for watching and enjoying the episode David, we really appreciate you taking the time to comment too! We have the next one out this Sunday☺️
I have built and repaired boats for three decades. This is an easy repair. Here is what I'd do: Use a small, rotary Mini grinder with a VERY thin cut-off disk to cut out the rotten wood appendage (you cannot fix it - nor should you try to replace it - encapsulating wood in the bilge almost never works for long). When the frame is cut out, sand the area with 60 grit to remove all bumps, paint, and get down to dry and clean fiberglass - about ten inches wide strip where the old wood frame was glassed in. Make sure to use a mask, use thin plastic sheeting to control dust - and have a vacuum cleaner running to collect as much dust as possible! Buy a roll of Bi-axil fiberglass tape eight inches wide - the kind with a layer of matt on the inside and interlacing fiberglass stands on top. Use 5/1 epoxy with the SLOW catalyst. Cut the tape into strips that span the hull from top to bottom and back up the other side. You will need enough tape to make a reinforcing patch at least 3/4 inch thick. Clean the sanded area with acetone, paint on a base coat of epoxy and immediately roll out the first layer of bi-axial tape with the matt side facing down. Start impregnating the tape with more epoxy and use a small metal roller to work the epoxy into the tape. Make sure you wear disposable gloves and have lots of spares! Once the first layer is done, do a second right on top of the first while the bottom epoxy is still wet. And the third layer, etc. This is why we use the slow catalyst, because the layers will build up a lot of heat. You may have to stop halfway through if the layup gets too hot (no smoking!) - and pick back up the next day. Eventually you should have enough layers to have built up a thick fiberglass tape flat pad where the old frame used to be. Do a final coat of epoxy to fill the weave of the cloth, and I'd personally make a fillet of epoxy/silica powder to smooth the pad where it meets the hull and not have it collect dirt/debris. Add a coat of epoxy primer and the next day a coat of white epoxy paint. Drill your holes from the outside of the boat through the new pad and install new, bolts with oversize washers. This new pad will be rot resistant, strengthens the hull at that point far better than the old factory frame, and spreads the load of the bolts better. Good luck!
I read a nice trick (courtesy of Mas/Sail Life) put on two pairs of gloves at the beginning of the layup. Change the outer layer as needed while the inner pair protects your skin.
Wow this is super helpful! We have just taken a screen shot of all of these instructions and saved them!! Thanks so much for taking the time to detail this out. We might have to do a temporary fix and then wait until we come out the water again at the end of this year, before doing this properly. But it needs doing and also need to stop the water coming in from outside once we’ve done that too!
It’s been such an improvement to getting some decent sleep and not worrying about damp crewing up making everything wet🙌🏼 Yeah the leak was not great tho😭
As water was coming in means your sealer wasn't working, the shaft support is fixed to failing timber and will continue to rot. Glassing over keeps your bilge dry for now , the start vibration will cause you a whole lot of pain in the future , this week, next month, out on the ocean . Bite the bullet haul out , change the timber support , and go sailing 8 love the 2 screws lol
Yeah think you’re right… looks like a proper bodge job and will just be getting weaker and weaker… The bracket is glassed either side of the wood but not really sure what’s holding the bracket in at the moment. Needs stripping back and starting again :(
That’s a real bodge job from the yard with those two screws! I was about to add that you need to get this properly sorted before using the boat this year…but Eric has given you some excellent sound advice!
Yeah the more we look at it the worse we feel… Really disappointed and really don’t want the expense of taking the boat back out the water again… but looking like we might have to
Simply glassing inside is not a good idea. It has to be waterproofed from outside. If you glass inside the water coming in from outside with eventually delaminate the glass inside. As the previous comment has mentioned, the current structure is sodden and won’t hold. That’s my ten cents worth!
Hey! Thanks so much for watching and for sharing your ‘ten cent’ it’s very welcomed and valuable. We totally agree and will be getting it redone from the outside, next time we are out of the water. Another job! ⛵️😅
Hey Natalie! Hope you are doing well? Miss you guys! Ah honestly nothing ‘boat life’ is easy! Hopefully we’ll just be in the med soon! Thanks the new mattress definitely made us feel better! Xx
Hey! Thanks for watching and for the advice. We totally agree with you! We’ve done a temporary fix for now and will be getting it redone next time we are out of the water. 🙌🏼⛵️
Not sure exactly what the materials are, check out the Shipshape Bedding link in our description, hopefully they have some more details on there. The under layer is called Dry Mat, they sell it on their site too👌🏼
I’m currently experimenting, rather than fighting with a sheet I replaced the sheet with a duvet and cover which is then acting as the sheet. The duvet holds its shape such that I don’t need to tuck it in.. not sure if it’s a brilliant idea or flawed..
Sorry Guys to hear you have continued to have so many issues with the work down in the Marina they were clearly not professional. As people have already commented the area needs to be cut out and dried throughly given the videos are retrospective hopefully you have been out the water and have had the work done by some professional
Hey thanks so much for commenting! It’s been a tough winter trying to get all this work done but getting let down so many times… really don’t know who to trust now. We’re going with a temporary fix until we get taken out of the water again. The wooden packing has been taking in water probably for years and we can see where a previous owner has tried to fix it too… The only way is to rip it out and start again, but mainly to stop the water actually getting in to begin with. The temp fix will hold for this season, but will look at it when we’re next out
@@SailingIndiana Hopefully all will be well with the temp fix and you will be able to enjoy the boat and have some time out sailing. My advice for whats its worth next time you need any work to be done, ask the advice from boat owners in what ever boatyard your in of their recommendations
@@sailingyachtmagnum Thanks and we definitely appreciate the advice. We were recommended this contractor by another boater and thought everything would be ok… but one thing after another kept happening, it then it’s too late and you’re in too far to find someone else before you launch etc. Not the best feeling and not a situation we want to be in again.
@@SailingIndiana Oh dear, what can I say it sounds like you did all the right things and you were very unfortunate. I know its difficult but sometimes you have to just put these things behind you and move on and lessons learnt
Just curious to know whether you feel that the poor "repairs" to the prop bracket have caused the problem. One would have thought a really substantial bond beneath would have been done. Given that the yard didn't do decent work on the hull either...and don't appear to have sealed/set the support properly...it's got to be worth asking the owner of the repair yard for a substantial refund, at least to cover another haul out in a Premier yard. Unless it's Falmouth Boat Co. Ask him/her to watch this episode, and any other that shows a dry bilge before.. If it's any consolation the storm waves are smashing in over the harbour wall today at Brighton Marina not so very far from the moorings, and must be really grim. Edward
Thanks Edward, a really good point you make. We managed to get money off of the bill for the polish done to the boat but not the rest, yet. The prop bracket was definitely already leaking before just not as much as that. The work done inside the boat has actually strengthened and stopped the water, but we really need to be back out of the water and re-sealing the poor bonding on the outside… We were wondering how bad Brighton would have been hit by the storm last week😬 It was crazy!
Lovely episode installing a new Ship Shape mattress aboard Indiana, frolicking and examining the many shapes prior. We can't thank you enough, sharing this with us is quit unique and genuine. Can't wait for your next episode and we pray that your time together is blessed with joy.
Thank you very much for watching and enjoying the episode David, we really appreciate you taking the time to comment too! We have the next one out this Sunday☺️
I have built and repaired boats for three decades. This is an easy repair. Here is what I'd do: Use a small, rotary Mini grinder with a VERY thin cut-off disk to cut out the rotten wood appendage (you cannot fix it - nor should you try to replace it - encapsulating wood in the bilge almost never works for long). When the frame is cut out, sand the area with 60 grit to remove all bumps, paint, and get down to dry and clean fiberglass - about ten inches wide strip where the old wood frame was glassed in. Make sure to use a mask, use thin plastic sheeting to control dust - and have a vacuum cleaner running to collect as much dust as possible! Buy a roll of Bi-axil fiberglass tape eight inches wide - the kind with a layer of matt on the inside and interlacing fiberglass stands on top. Use 5/1 epoxy with the SLOW catalyst. Cut the tape into strips that span the hull from top to bottom and back up the other side. You will need enough tape to make a reinforcing patch at least 3/4 inch thick. Clean the sanded area with acetone, paint on a base coat of epoxy and immediately roll out the first layer of bi-axial tape with the matt side facing down. Start impregnating the tape with more epoxy and use a small metal roller to work the epoxy into the tape. Make sure you wear disposable gloves and have lots of spares! Once the first layer is done, do a second right on top of the first while the bottom epoxy is still wet. And the third layer, etc. This is why we use the slow catalyst, because the layers will build up a lot of heat. You may have to stop halfway through if the layup gets too hot (no smoking!) - and pick back up the next day. Eventually you should have enough layers to have built up a thick fiberglass tape flat pad where the old frame used to be. Do a final coat of epoxy to fill the weave of the cloth, and I'd personally make a fillet of epoxy/silica powder to smooth the pad where it meets the hull and not have it collect dirt/debris. Add a coat of epoxy primer and the next day a coat of white epoxy paint. Drill your holes from the outside of the boat through the new pad and install new, bolts with oversize washers. This new pad will be rot resistant, strengthens the hull at that point far better than the old factory frame, and spreads the load of the bolts better. Good luck!
I read a nice trick (courtesy of Mas/Sail Life) put on two pairs of gloves at the beginning of the layup. Change the outer layer as needed while the inner pair protects your skin.
Wow this is super helpful! We have just taken a screen shot of all of these instructions and saved them!! Thanks so much for taking the time to detail this out. We might have to do a temporary fix and then wait until we come out the water again at the end of this year, before doing this properly. But it needs doing and also need to stop the water coming in from outside once we’ve done that too!
Now that bed looks comfy. Sorry about the leak, real bummer.
It’s been such an improvement to getting some decent sleep and not worrying about damp crewing up making everything wet🙌🏼
Yeah the leak was not great tho😭
As water was coming in means your sealer wasn't working, the shaft support is fixed to failing timber and will continue to rot. Glassing over keeps your bilge dry for now , the start vibration will cause you a whole lot of pain in the future , this week, next month, out on the ocean . Bite the bullet haul out , change the timber support , and go sailing 8 love the 2 screws lol
Yeah think you’re right… looks like a proper bodge job and will just be getting weaker and weaker… The bracket is glassed either side of the wood but not really sure what’s holding the bracket in at the moment. Needs stripping back and starting again :(
@@SailingIndiana 100 % . Sadly not ready to go into the water . Strip it way back the water has been going where you cannot see ,
That’s a real bodge job from the yard with those two screws! I was about to add that you need to get this properly sorted before using the boat this year…but Eric has given you some excellent sound advice!
Yeah the more we look at it the worse we feel… Really disappointed and really don’t want the expense of taking the boat back out the water again… but looking like we might have to
Simply glassing inside is not a good idea. It has to be waterproofed from outside. If you glass inside the water coming in from outside with eventually delaminate the glass inside. As the previous comment has mentioned, the current structure is sodden and won’t hold.
That’s my ten cents worth!
totally agree, it maybe not entering the boat but its certainly seeping into the fibreglass
Hey! Thanks so much for watching and for sharing your ‘ten cent’ it’s very welcomed and valuable. We totally agree and will be getting it redone from the outside, next time we are out of the water. Another job! ⛵️😅
ahh ...nothing is ever simple is it ...nice mattress tho!!!...sending you our best from brighton
Hey Natalie! Hope you are doing well? Miss you guys! Ah honestly nothing ‘boat life’ is easy! Hopefully we’ll just be in the med soon! Thanks the new mattress definitely made us feel better! Xx
This wants cutting out, new timber bulkhead fitting and all re glassing as it’s all sodden and is not structurally sound.
absolutely agree the area will never dry
Hey! Thanks for watching and for the advice. We totally agree with you! We’ve done a temporary fix for now and will be getting it redone next time we are out of the water. 🙌🏼⛵️
glad you are getting the fuel tank fixed.. here's hoping that fixes the hard starting!
Hey! Yes finally got it sorted! It’s been a long journey of boat jobs but hopefully we are nearly there! 🙏🏼
what sort of mattress is that - latex? and what was that white fabric you put under the mattress?
Not sure exactly what the materials are, check out the Shipshape Bedding link in our description, hopefully they have some more details on there. The under layer is called Dry Mat, they sell it on their site too👌🏼
I’m currently experimenting, rather than fighting with a sheet I replaced the sheet with a duvet and cover which is then acting as the sheet. The duvet holds its shape such that I don’t need to tuck it in.. not sure if it’s a brilliant idea or flawed..
We think this is a brilliant idea! Genius in fact! Think we will have to give this a go! 🙌🏼
Sorry Guys to hear you have continued to have so many issues with the work down in the Marina they were clearly not professional. As people have already commented the area needs to be cut out and dried throughly given the videos are retrospective hopefully you have been out the water and have had the work done by some professional
Hey thanks so much for commenting! It’s been a tough winter trying to get all this work done but getting let down so many times… really don’t know who to trust now.
We’re going with a temporary fix until we get taken out of the water again. The wooden packing has been taking in water probably for years and we can see where a previous owner has tried to fix it too… The only way is to rip it out and start again, but mainly to stop the water actually getting in to begin with.
The temp fix will hold for this season, but will look at it when we’re next out
@@SailingIndiana Hopefully all will be well with the temp fix and you will be able to enjoy the boat and have some time out sailing. My advice for whats its worth next time you need any work to be done, ask the advice from boat owners in what ever boatyard your in of their recommendations
@@sailingyachtmagnum Thanks and we definitely appreciate the advice. We were recommended this contractor by another boater and thought everything would be ok… but one thing after another kept happening, it then it’s too late and you’re in too far to find someone else before you launch etc. Not the best feeling and not a situation we want to be in again.
@@SailingIndiana Oh dear, what can I say it sounds like you did all the right things and you were very unfortunate. I know its difficult but sometimes you have to just put these things behind you and move on and lessons learnt
Who did this “repair” on the p bracket? Have a boat down there and want to avoid this !
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Just curious to know whether you feel that the poor "repairs" to the prop bracket have caused the problem. One would have thought a really substantial bond beneath would have been done.
Given that the yard didn't do decent work on the hull either...and don't appear to have sealed/set the support properly...it's got to be worth asking the owner of the repair yard for a substantial refund, at least to cover another haul out in a Premier yard. Unless it's Falmouth Boat Co.
Ask him/her to watch this episode, and any other that shows a dry bilge before..
If it's any consolation the storm waves are smashing in over the harbour wall today at Brighton Marina not so very far from the moorings, and must be really grim. Edward
Thanks Edward, a really good point you make. We managed to get money off of the bill for the polish done to the boat but not the rest, yet. The prop bracket was definitely already leaking before just not as much as that. The work done inside the boat has actually strengthened and stopped the water, but we really need to be back out of the water and re-sealing the poor bonding on the outside…
We were wondering how bad Brighton would have been hit by the storm last week😬 It was crazy!
@@SailingIndiana From my looking
Office looking down to the Marina...it looked pretty punishing. I envy you Falmouth, although the worst weather always chases intrepid sailors.
Watching your leak made us cringe. That sucks, again the art of trusting people and not becoming so bitter.
Hey! Ah it’s so frustrating isn’t it? Just one thing after the other! Hopefully we are getting there 🙏🏼🙏🏼⛵️⛵️
You guys have convinced me to either purchase a 55 foot monohull or a 48 foot cat … just saying.
Haha we are very happy to hear this😂🙌🏼 We think we’ll upgrade in maybe 4 or 5 years, to either a bigger mono or maybe even a cat👀🤫