Perfect Finish in a Dusty Shop II - Gloss Osmo
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- How to get a perfect gloss finish in a dusty shop using hardwax oil. I've used Osmo oil extensively, but I'd never used their gloss finish on a table sized project. I decided to refinish the Blacktail sign I previously sanded all the way to 12,000 grit and finished with Odie's Oil. If I went a little too fast here, check out my blog post below for a step by step guide.
Step by step blog:
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Items used in this video:
Osmo gloss: amzn.to/2xYL6Vp
Osmo brush (I made my own): amzn.to/2xYkwf6
Vacuum clamps: amzn.to/39WaA39
Festool sander: amzn.to/2XlZmSE
600 grit mesh sandpaper: amzn.to/2UTd3H3
Gem buffer: amzn.to/2RoLSSy
White buffing pad: amzn.to/3aXxMPJ
Liquid wax cleaner: amzn.to/39V8Qa4
Microfiber bonnet: amzn.to/34le1Pu
Sandpaper storage: amzn.to/2JSfB1Z
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Cam, did not think this video was a bit too fast, It was way too fast for me. Like some others I would like a clarification as to what exactly the residue is that you leave behind. Keep up the great videos.
Paul
I mean more of a fine powder than residue. I talk faster than I think sometimes.
Hi, Cam, great video as always. I know you've moved on from Osmo for your builds, but since I haven't seen anyone mentioning it in the comments I have to ask: the ketchup/condiment squirt bottles you used. They're ingenious, but how long were you able to store the Osmo finish in them for?
Cam, really enjoy your work and videos! I’m an inspired wood worker myself. Question, what did you use for your signage inlay and border?
Cam, I'm guilty of having not only a short attention span, but also a short memory. Please clarify what you mean by leaving residue. Thanks in advance. Btw: I'm a big fan of thin finish with high gloss, so good on ya!
It’s actually more of a fine powder. I talk faster than I think too.
@@BlacktailStudio I thought so. My mind thinks (liquid) when I hear "residue", so thanks for helping me out.
Hey Hey from Canada! Cam, first and foremost, no you aren't making these videos too long! Please don't feel the need to rush through them. The fact that you take the time to give us all this valuable info is amazing. I'll sit here and listen to an extended version.... because I'm learning valuable stuff!! Question for you about this finish. I noticed that you put your sign back up with a couple rags on your hands. Does this finish lend itself to showing finger marks? Can you use it for a table top situation without seeing finger/hand marks in the reflections?
It’s kinda sensitive to fingerprints for the first week or so for some reason. Good for a table after that. Good question Kelly!
Can, tbh I like the new finish better great work
My name, Cam, I actually LOVE that you go really fast. I came here to know what you know, not to spend time with you and watch you mug for the camera and make stupid jokes and gestures. (You don't actually do that, but that's typically what I have to sit through in order to Know What This Guy Knows.) Also, I'm a fairly long-term odie's user, and I work mainly with figured woods that I want a polished-marble shiny finish on, WITHOUT eighteen coats of something that stinks and also leaves brush strokes and needs a long massage and a cup of tea and a long talk in between coats. So this was really helpful for me. Thanks for putting all this out there!
Cam, I wouldn’t mind at all if you did a whole video series on how you achieve good finishing results with all the different finishes you use. Osmo, Odies, Poly, etc. they would be great to refer back to later before finishing a project!
Working on something like that Ryan!
Cam- fast, quick and direct that’s how I like to take in my info cheers from Australia
Cheers nick!
HI Cam, thoroughly enjoy your videos and your attention to quality! I really like the way Osmo works on wood for a great finish, however, for your sign I liked the original better because glossy signs create too much glare to see the words and art. Not a big deal, just my preference. Thanks for helping us get better at this stuff!! Ken Pruitt
Fair! It actually reflects too much now and doesn’t look great in videos 😬
CAM - fantastic video, I just had one question - early on there were fine pores still visible in the wood, and as you built up the coats they levelled out and gave you this glorious glossy lustre - by leaving the powdery residue on, is this sort of creating a pore-filling slurry when you come to apply the next coat of polyx?
Cam, I love your videos. I agree with you that you tend to rush a bit. I have specific questions; what grit did you sand to before the first coat of oil? How long do you let the oil stay before you sand? What grits do you work through during your 6 coats of oil application? I've been trying to get better than just okay results with my Osmo oil, thank you in advance for your info.
Cam, thanks for a great video on buffing hardwax oil. I love using this product myself.
I have experienced my buffing pads go hard after use even when attempting a rinse.
Do you reuse yours and if so, any tricks to ensure they don't harden?
Kind regards
Mark, from Sweden
Cam, no question. Thanks for the great content. Cheers
Thanks Eric!
Cam, I subscribed. Well done Vid. I just bought some osmo to experiment with. Look forward to future vids, Mark
Cam, have been wanting to try Osmo for a while. Been using Odie's for a long time, but am wanting that gloss. This is a great video. How long do you wait between coats? I took notes during the video, but did not hear anything about that other than the 12 hours before wax cleaner/micro fiber. Thanks
Cam, would this finish and technique work over a clear epoxy river? I’ve got a bullet casing coffee table I’ve been fighting with for about a month.
Thanks!
Hey Cam,
How much product did you use for a sign that size?
Cam, just found Osmo in a big box store for about $15 a .5 L can, but it’s TopOil? Used it on bamboo, came out pretty nice. I’ll go back soon and see what else they have there.
Great video. Trying to figure out which Osmo product you used, the Poly X, Wood 2K, or Top oil maybe? Sorry if you covered this and I missed it somehow.
Thanks
Cam, I cannot manage to get this finish smooth and glossy. It’s making me nuts. I sanded to 600, did the coat, and it’s got swirls (using Bosch GET75-6N). Not pig tail sanding swirls, but with the finish. If I buff until nothing left, it looks so dull. I have been debating on trying your ceramic coat just to get this to a higher sheen
Cam, thanks for this video. Good to see how a different finish will look. I've got a couple of piece of white oak and another elm which are pretty white in their natural appearance. Would this be a good finish for those? Also, if I use an epoxy to fill any gaps or space in them, will this finish still be a good choice? Many thanks. Scott from Japan
Cam, another great video! Keep them coming, please. It would be great if you can explain the rationale / science / witchcraft behind your process, as it's quite different (better!) than what the manufacturer's instructions are.
Ya, they give horrible instructions don’t they!
I'm using Osmo on a Madrone wood top for a kitchen island. Satin finish. Many sites suggest 3 coats is enough...I see you used 6. What do you suggest?
Cam... Sorry I for got to put Cam... I purchased the same buffer you have linked and the pads as well. I am having a problem with the pads sticking to the buffer. I notice that you do not. What is the tip to having the pads stick to the buffer when buffing?
Cam - I’d love to see a video on more generally how you use your buffer, answering questions like: Do you have to replace the pads each time? Are there different speeds/settings? When does it make sense to invest in a tool like this? Thanks!
Good suggestion Chris
Cam ... my choice is the one that is easier, gets to the shine/look predictably, cost, and tactileness(?) - not in any order. This Osmo has the tactile and shine level I prefer. Sometimes the client doesn't notice those levels of details so it may not matter. Just my 2 cents. -Mike
p.s. wax and many oils like to be heated as they're applied - Is that what the abuse is doing ?
Thanks Mike!
Can it’s Sham again. Just watch you hold your cord. Have you thought about running a rope and bungee cord from your sealing to keep your cords out of your way? You could have an extension cord run down over your work space also for switching out tools.
Hi Cam I’ve been watching your videos from the beginning and I love the osmo but I do have a question do you like using the osmo or Rubio monocoat more?
Cam - I know this is a old video but I was looking through your videos to see which finish you are using now. I know you have been using Rubio but thought you said you were looking at a different finish in a video I watched recently.
So, for the first coat: You brushed it on, leaving a good layer of oil and then what? You just leave it like this overnight and then sand with a 400 grit?
Hi, I have rubio monocoat and it darken the cross grain significantly. Compare osmo to rubio, is this any better at keeping the cross grain bright?
Hello from Michigan! - would the High gloss still work on highly sanded wood? I'm making a wood tuning key (essentially, a cylindrical shape) that I've hand-sanded to 12k grit.
Thanks for any advice!!!
Cam. i think it looks better. :) I was trying to compare Rubio to Osmo.. im interested in both products.
Cam nice work, I like it better with the wax finish. Nice experiment though, appreciate the video.
Hi I have a quick question, when you wipe the table from the dust using cloth is that cloth but wet or dry?
Looks great! How would you polish a clear river table with maple wood edges?
I appreciate all your jobs but the problem we have I am in Nigeria the tools you are using we don't have it in Nigeria
What did you prefer or think is best: Rubio MC or Osmo Oil?
Cam, I enjoy these videos. When you're doing a before & after, or a comparison, if you can, at the end show the difference side by side or back to back.
That would have been good. Thanks!
When you scuff the epoxy with the 240 grit will the osmo bring the gloss back to it?
Great video! im fairly new to woodworking and am currently building a maple table with resin in the center, but i wanted help on selecting materials for the sealing and finishing. What do you recommend, do you recommend sealing and varnishing, or polyurethane, wax. I appreciate any help.
I’d recommend Osmo 😊
Cam - which Osmo product did you use? How many total coats? Thanks
Is it really that hard for people to watch a video that is shorter than most of the advertisements on RUclips?
Maybe it's just me, but if anything, it seemed very rushed. Amazing finished product though. Thanks for sharing the tip about cutting the brush, and thank you for crushing. I'm going to try it out. 👊🏼🐻
Thanks Buddy!
Can you salvage the buffer pads or do you throw them away after you use them.
Very nice
Thanks!
Cam, is that a honey jar that you are using to apply the little bits of finish during the buffing stage?
Good video here Cam, we used to carry Odies, but do not any more. I personally liked their stuff. I have passed this video along to our finishing product manager. Appreciate the video, and great sign using Osmo.
Very cool! And I like a mile from one of your locations 😊
Your sign is cool. Is it inlaid. Is there a video of you making it?
wonderful work....How thick is the log ? What's name of Epoxy you buy at Amazon? I can't see name in your videos!!
Check my last table build. I know it’s in there! And this was only 1” thick
Which osmo polyx is best for red wood floors, to help keep orange or red too dominant?
Cam, just found you buddy. I can feel a binge coming on lol. Like your style and way of doing videos. Looking forward to watching what else you have done. Stay safe!
Thanks Andrew!
Why did you need to brush it in the first stage as opposed to a normal buff?
Cam, As always this was a great presentation. You hit the highlights and all the unique processes. I really appreciate not having to watch 15 minutes of you routing a dado. Great tempo.
Cam, I’m routing out to about 1/4” deep a table that’s past its prime, (leaving the “2x4” edges that will be painted black along with the legs and horizontal stabilizer) laying in a couple of slabs of spalted sycamore and filling the rivers with black casting epoxy (ok, then maybe I’m carving something like a Lichtenberg burn and filling that with turquoise blue…). We made part of a desk using the same spalted sycamore. Don’t get me wrong; it’s beautiful (young lady loves it), but I was so disappointed with how yellow the Rubio turned that gorgeously contrasting spalting and white sycamore. I really want this one to remain that light/white not “goldfish” color. 1) Osmos? 2) your ceramic over the whole thing? I usually “soak and coat” tables and counters with epoxy. .. so your recommendation would be appreciated. Thought you stopped making videos… Don’t know how I became unsubscribed- just me, or anybody else run into this? Wish I could get black walnut😢
mate, i'd like to know how you would finish with the osmo poly-x satin
Cam, thanks for the video. How long do you expect the shine to last?
We’ll see! I think a long time
Cam...I have followed all your steps here and my cookie was looking great. Then I did the last step with the wax remover to even out the surface and was left with nothing but scratches! I find myself today seriously set back on my project. What did I do wrong here? I followed your advice ..I don't have a buffer and instead used a DA polisher. Heeeellp! Super frustrated.
Cam, thanks for the video. I have watched almost all your stuff to date. This one came up as I’m looking for a good exterior hard wax oil finish on a small walnut piece. Do you have any experience in seeing what osmo polyX can do outside? I have seen the newer version of the exterior blend but I have about 6 liters of the regular poly-X and was hoping someone could shed some light on if it had any exterior strength to it. Thank you Sir. Love the content! Always looking forward to the next build.
Cam, Does the vacuum clamp give the wood a hickey? Just kidding. Seriously, are the buffing pads re-usable? How does the Osmo gloss hold up compared to poly?
I love your finishing techniques.
I can reuse a couple times if there isn’t too much dried finish
I have a 30" x 20" olive wood in a black diamond epoxy pool that is basically going to sit on top of my clients new glass top stove as both decoration and protecting the stove top (I have admonished them that stove top cannot be even warm when its put onto the stove top!). Wood is not covered with epoxy. I have it totally flat and was going to just use Rubio but my client wants more of a "glow" finish. I sanded to 4000 grit and looking at finishing options. What do you recommend now that you have done two table top videos sanded to a high level? BTW, love you videos and watch them often! Thanks
Bill
A Slightly off topic question for you sir...what epoxy if any is best for exterior full weather exposure? I'm thinking about making a picnic table using individual epoxy coated 2x6
Haven’t tried full outdoor epoxy. Sorry!
Hi cam, I'm from India. I tried these osmo glossy finish by using osmo 3011. But it's been 3days the first coat is not dried yet. So please mentioned the ambient temperature and relative humidity that it needs to cure. Now sanding all the first layer and going to apply thinly. I love your videos and you are a good craftsmen. Thanks
Cam, I don't think it matters if we liked it as long as you did, pretty awesome actually, I like the speed of the video, I don't thane to watch on 2x ff. I'm going to check out osmo I guess, I have been using Odie's. Question when do you elect to go with Odie's vs Osmo? Is it purely based on how much shine you want or what are other factors? Your buffer is great I need one, are the pads reusable? Are run costs high for new pads and such?
I use em all!
Very helpful video! I used Osmo WoodWax finish with ebony stain on a white oak Pederson dining table sanded to 220 based on Thomas Throop's design. Despite using what I thought was minimal amounts applied with a white pad and lots of hand buffing till little or no stain showed, I had trouble with the finish looking patchy and dull.. I waited 24 hours and applied Osmo clear oil satin finish pretty much as shown here, again using a white pad and hand application. The pad removed what appeared to be excess stain and I kept going with clean white pads and paper towels till little or no further stain showed. The result was a dramatic improvement both in the evenness of the stain and a very nice satin finish.
The oil appeared to remove the excess stain. I suspect my technique was far from ideal but the result was very good. I hope this might help someone else who has a similar problem.
Cam! How long do wait before you sand in between coats? When I use osmo like that it get tacky and never really dries when it’s that this especially on the epoxy because it can soak it. Maybe you wouldn’t apply this new method to epoxy tables? Seen all the videos! 5 or 20 minutes doesn’t matter I watch the whole thing. Your videos go well with my morning coffee.
Check out my blog for more details
Curious about the toxicity of the Osmo vs the Odie's? I'm concerned about the gloss, but even more concerned about the environment and the chemicals I put in my house. Any difference?
I’d get with each company for the SDS
Thank you! Have used Osmo (happily) on black walnut before, and now I'll use your info to up my game.
Can, I’ve rewatched this video a few times. For the first coat did you buff off all the osmo or leave it all on? Also for subsequent coats do you wait any time period before you buff off with the clean side of white pad? Thanks -Kyle
Cam really nice.
How long did you wait between apply the osmo and sanding or applying next coat of osmo?
Your videos are enjoyable and helpful
this might come as a stupid question but I've never used buffers before: about the buffer pad(sponge), does it has to be white? thanks for the inspiration and beautiful projects.
The statistics that say people dont have a long attention span and videos need to be 5 mins is totally wrong just like all statistics. Joe Rogan has 3 hour videos and pretty sure he is doing ok on RUclips not trying to criticize just saying I appreciate your videos and you can slow it down make them longer.
10 min is my sweet spot. Joe Rogan is more entertaining than me.
Cam, it might be a dumb question but what is the deal with the different wood patches in some parts of the slab?
It’s just an esthetic inlay thing
cam @cam first off, love your content. i know that i am a little late to the party to ask a question but i need your advice if possible. i am finishing a chess board right now with osmo for the first time. my question is, after you get to the point when you are sanding with 600 between coats, do you completely remove any of the dust or do you leave some. though i watched several times i couldnt be sure without asking. thank you
Cam, how long are you waiting in between each coat of osmo?
Cam, Awesome! Thank you. Which finish do you prefer most: the Rubio or Osmo lineup? And why??
Hi Cam.
Just wondering if that liquid wax remover is an OSMO product?
Thanks cheers Gary
It is Gary
Cam, in your opinion do you seal the underside of a table or not? I'm seeing varying opinions on this topic.
Moving into a new home in a month and have plans for my first live edge table (been doing charcuterie boards up to this point) and trying to get it all figured out.
Hi Cam. Love your channel, i like the Osmo finish, i will start using it for high gloss work. Thank you so much for all your videos!
What brand buffer. Is that bro Like all your tips snd tricks keep up good work
I added a link in the description for ya
Is it moist up in oregon where you are? I'm looking to do a river table. One of the maple pieces i have is reading 8-9 percent moisture and the other is about 10-11 percent. I wonder if its ok to start the project. I live in NH and its very moist here right now. Both of the slabs were previously kiln dried. I've watched quite a few videos of yours. You do a great job! And i've learned A LOT. I don't see you measure the moisture content in your wood but if its all consistent maybe thats why you haven't shown it.
Also the osmo product you used is out of stock on amazon. Any recommendation of where else to get it? I used the osmo satin that you used in your other finish video on a bench i built recently and it came out very nice I think. Great product!
Cam, another great video, not sure you really addressed the title other than saying dust is not really an issue over all when working to achieve a perfect finish. Also not to fast. Could not really see the difference between the 2 to be able to judge other than to say they both looked awesome. Great work and love the large buffer, worth the investment.
Have you found any safe way to cover a drying project (Osmo oil) to protect it from dust while doing other work?
Cam, if you do not have a buffer can you still use the Osmo gloss product?
Sure, just need to perfect your own method
Very classy and nice work! Question: which is much easier yet more durable; Osmo or Rubio monocoat? Thanks
I’m working on a test now!
Cam, great video; thank you. Can you tell me please what wax cleaner it is that you used?
Thank you, Jim
Osmo liquid wax cleaner
What is durability and care needed with 12,000 grit Osmo versus this updated version?
Hey cam if a table is going to get abused( physical, food) what kind of finish you recommend. Thanks
I'm sure you have answered this before, what is your opinion on Odie's? I have not used it much and am curious on its durability for tables or counters?
I have inconsistent results with it. When I get it right it has been durable though.
Cam, do you prefer Osmo Polyx Matte or Satin better? Which one yellows more in your experience?
I have kind of gotten away from Osmo altogether
Cam, what are the white pads that you are using? I have seen several shops and woodworkers using these white pads, but haven’t been able to find them anywhere in stores or online.
Link in the description 👍🏼👍🏼
Cam, if I were to use a sander vs that buffing tool you have would I be better to use an “etsc” or an “ RO” my thought is random orbit or rotary mode?
Ets 👍🏼
Cam, I think it has more depth than it did before. And in my humble opinion I think you did the right thing by refinishing it. I live in Hawaii and have never seen this on the shelf of either Home Depot or Lowe's Home Improvement, where can I find it and does it come in a satin finish? And last question is would it be appropriate to use on a chopping block kitchen countertop?
Cam, you’re doing great. Don’t second guess. I love and use the Osmo finish. Now I need to get a light stick.
hey Cam how do clean your buffing pads
In the article on your blog on one of the older video for osmo, you used osmo thin oil to first seal and then buffed up the hardwax oil in it. Do you still recommend thin oil approach or just use hardwax and sand to higher grit. I'm building a solid wood table.
Cam, I just have to start doing something to see just how much I´ve have learned from your videos which I love very much, thanks a lot
Cam thanks for sharing your tips. Looks beautiful
Cam good video
Are you still using this gloss Osmo for you finish’s or do you use something else now?
Thanks
Na, don’t use it very much
Cam; video was a tad fast, but very informative. BTW, the Ossmo oil for the win!
Thanks Gary!