Speaking as an American, our history is so BORING (way too utopian), my favorite subject in history class was always British history (especially medieval!).
Note also that a vote for every "man" was originally "for every person", but it was under pressure from the middle class that they compromised on that, which led to decades of fighting for women's suffrage. The merchants and industrialists thought it was bad enough that every (working class) man should have a vote, but that women should also have the vote (and especially working class women) was a horrific concept for them.
hi Tom, it's great that there is a interest in Chartist's. I live in Newport Wales where the 1839 raising happened. Thank you so much for showing our mural, it was very much a sad day when it came down. I think it showed everything that chartist's stood for and our history.
In the U.S. in the 1830s you did NOT have universal male suffrage. The U.S. didn’t formally have universal male suffrage until 1868 but in practice most black men were barred from voting in southern states until the civil rights movement.
A big thank you from France, our test is in 6 hours and we might actually have a chance now! Please come and be a teacher in France, we need more teachers like you!
Excellent, succinct explanation, Tom - thank you. I'll certainly be viewing your other lectures. BTW I'm from England and have nothing but admiration for the Chartists who were roundly screwed by Parliament.
Glad to hear it! Was actually thinking about my UK audience when recording this lecture series. Decided to go into a little more depth hoping that students in the UK would appreciate it.
9:08 Ahahah:) It’s actually a rather relevant theme in modern Russia (where I live). Though the government and opposition numbers differ only 2,5-3 times.
Here from Luxembourg! We're using your videos for our "Society, Culture and Politics in Britain during the 19th century" and this explains so much, thank you so much for these videos, keep up the great work ^^!
Thanks so much for the lesson! I was studying this thoroughly for the past week and understood nothing of the subject, but in the way you delivered all the information i finally got it. I searched for some of these lessons in spanish before finding you (because i'm spanish) and found none so i apreciate that you do this. You earned yourself a subscriber and please keep doing these lessons!
I discovered your channel few days ago and I've been watching hours of your videos already. Very interesting, well structured and very clear introduction to different historical topics. Thanks alot from Montreal, Quebec!
7:30 *1818 is ~30 years before marx wrote the communist manifesto* . so it isnt maxist language. maybe marx used chartist language. but this just sounds like equality & equity striving (as a lot of communism/socialism is. on paper at least.)
I love your videos. :) I'm currently an AP Euro student and thinking about teaching history one day, so they're pretty helpful. Thanks for sharing your content on RUclips!
There is a good set of exhibits about Chartism, the Peterloo Massacre and general working class-centred political movements since the early 19th century in the People's History Museum in Manchester
Great review. Just watched the series “Mill” on Prime. Interesting to se how difficult working conditions were and how they knew, in the early 19 th century…true universal suffrage would make poverty history. They sent Chartist leaders to Australia (as political prisoners). I can see now why Australia went straight to universal suffrage ( including women from 1902), after it’s Federation.. we had the children of all those Irish and English political convicts….. who believed in democracy and a fair days work for a fair days pay. 8hr work/8hr play/8hr sleep was an Australian founding value.
The cavalry charge was not actually performed by government troops (who were present but did not participate). Instead the yeomanry, a militia generally formed from land or factory owners, the massacre was caused by jittery local magistrates rather than being ordered by parliament.
Just one thing. The parties were called Whigs and Tories. They didn't become Liberals and Conservatives until the middle of the 19th century, when they reluctantly embraced the idea of popular elections (but still only one third of men had the vote after the Second Reform Act in 1867).
The meeting figure reported by newspapers most resembles the figure found in a written note by a magistrate witness (from Guardian article by Simon Murphy, "Note Reveals Early Details of Peterloo Massacre", August 14, 2019).
+HarmonyKelpNguyen I've got a website with resources and also an app called Romulus Euro if you have an iPhone. Check it out at the app store! The 1.1 update should be released this week that will correct some errors and add some more questions.
thank you so so muc. i really did understand everything from lasts video and this one. u really did say me because i have a igcse history exam the next day and i don't understand the teacher. but i could understand from you. so once again thank you.
I think your videos are really good. I would recommend revising your statement about the United States having Universal Male Suffrage in the 1830s. Black men were still not even really counted as people, and they certainly didn't have the right to vote.
aah...nope. In the 1830s there was no universal male suffrage in the States. The 19th ammendment, giving women the right to vote in the States, was passed in 1920.
Try to use the actual language that the Chartists used, otherwise the students won't recognise concepts in the sources or in text books. Example: point number 2 refers to "equal constituencies", a point that is debated up to the present day in UK politics. How do you ensure equal constituencies, i.e. do you have to redraw the maps/boundaries as populations shift in order to rebalance them every now and again? Also, small point, but "less" is for uncountable nouns, not countable nouns like "people". The word is "fewer".
Any thoughts on whether the British empire was fundamentally different to that of France or China in the nineteenth century....got an assignment due :(
To Rohit, How can you ask? If you had no say at all in any supposed governance of your self or yyour children. Would not the day you or your family received a right to vote be remarkable?
Sir did you just say that America had "universal male suffrage" in 1832? I'm not going to get on a soap box and give you a lecture but I'm sure you realize that is an ignorant comment.
It is not a given in the USA that electoral districts are equal sized because of the bicameral legislature. There are two Senators for each state, whether California or Texas or North Dakota or Rhode Island. The Senators from North Dakota or Wyoming represent less that one-fiftieth of the population as do those of California. We have our own "rotten boroughs" problem built right into the system. And just as the opponents of Chartism, its defenders cite tradition as the justification. Also, in reverse, a little over 40% of the population of the USA , mostly in the smaller states, can hold a majority of both houses. So, I say we need an American Chartist movement today to ensure that a majority of the population voting in elections should almost always be able to achieve a ruling majority to accomplish what the majority of voters want.
thank you for a clear explanation of events, but i do think that the term working class should really be replaced by enslaved class. oh and how awful for those concerned about their property, and that was not all they were concerned about. some employers were paying their workers in tokens that could only be spent in the business owners store. no wealth could be accumulated by the slaves so freedom to choose did not exist. they did not want that to change! and then the outright inhumane attempt to destroy the chartists with use of the state resources. what an elite rabble have dominated the people of england and still do with their false promises and lies of trickledown economics
the protests happening before the peterloo massacre were actually peaceful, whole families with their kids were there, the upper class just felt threatened by the sheer numbers and what could happen if they became violent (which they weren't) so they sent in the cavalry
Yaa i got it... hey tom i love your work but m sad that u dint do napoleon wars.. properly.. plz take that topic.. how he became hero and then a zero.. i want to kno every thing.. hoping that u will accept my request. Greetings from india.
Really good until the bit where you say "the newspapers main objective is to report the news" - ignoring all the issues with ownership/editorial bias, censorship, etc
"People have some valid concerns" is a highly misleading way of representing this. The ruling classes in Britain were, of course, concerned. But you should frame it as "concerned that they might lose their method of maintaining and expanding their wealth." Very different (and far less important) than the concerns of the working class here. I'm all for avoiding presentism, but this is simply misleading and fearmongering.
Also framing the Sunday Observer as objective -- "their motive is to report the news" -- is similarly misleading. The Sunday Observer, like any paper, had biases, and likely was terrified of the Chartists. Please consider the way you represent these important historical events!
and another one -- "they just want a government that doesn't ignore them, and that's what they end up getting" is a massive oversimplification. Like any social movement, the chartists contained numerous attitudes, some violent, some more reformist. secondly, it's hard to call these reforms the government "not ignoring" them -- sure, some were thrilled with them, but they were still meaningfully ignored. describing ignoring them as a binary (either they are or they are not being ignored) is also misleading and obfuscates the complexity of political movements.
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A newspaper that just wants to report the news... ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Earl Minime is right, the Observer in these days was getting a government subsidy so the editor would be under pressure to compromise, however at the the same time the Observer was developing a Left Wing position since the Peterloo Massacre. From modern experience, the people on the ground modestly exaggerate the number of attendees based on people coming and going throughout the day, the police and newspapers massively underestimate the numbers to play down the size of support. Which would suggest a number between 50,000 and 300,000 is more likely. However, it would depend on whether these kinds of mass meetings had become commonplace in the era for the newspapers to develop a formal strategy of downplaying protester numbers.
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Absolute lifesaver. Many thanks from a British history student :)
Its really nice to see an American take a genuine interest in our history. You explain it well.
+NormanBatesIsMyMum What's also nice is that my British audience is so receptive to my British history videos. Thanks for supporting my work!
Speaking as an American, our history is so BORING (way too utopian), my favorite subject in history class was always British history (especially medieval!).
Or maybe "Utopia" is what they'd like for you to believe..#Conspiracy
you are idiot , american history is not Utopian and is very interesting if you understand it
@Kalel Henrik yup, I've been watching on flixzone} for since december myself :)
Note also that a vote for every "man" was originally "for every person", but it was under pressure from the middle class that they compromised on that, which led to decades of fighting for women's suffrage. The merchants and industrialists thought it was bad enough that every (working class) man should have a vote, but that women should also have the vote (and especially working class women) was a horrific concept for them.
Malcolm Chase, the historian of Chartism, recently made this point in a talk he gave in Kennington...
hi Tom, it's great that there is a interest in Chartist's. I live in Newport Wales where the 1839 raising happened. Thank you so much for showing our mural, it was very much a sad day when it came down. I think it showed everything that chartist's stood for and our history.
In the U.S. in the 1830s you did NOT have universal male suffrage. The U.S. didn’t formally have universal male suffrage until 1868 but in practice most black men were barred from voting in southern states until the civil rights movement.
True! And don’t forget Native Americans
This jumped out immediately to me as well. Surprised your comment didn't have more response
A big thank you from France, our test is in 6 hours and we might actually have a chance now! Please come and be a teacher in France, we need more teachers like you!
Je suis dans la même situation haha j'ai exam demain...
Excellent, succinct explanation, Tom - thank you. I'll certainly be viewing your other lectures. BTW I'm from England and have nothing but admiration for the Chartists who were roundly screwed by Parliament.
hi tom im a UK student and this is still very usefull thank you v much
Glad to hear it! Was actually thinking about my UK audience when recording this lecture series. Decided to go into a little more depth hoping that students in the UK would appreciate it.
I have my AP Euro test this Friday and this series helped me so much. Thanks for the entertaining and high quality lectures
9:08 Ahahah:) It’s actually a rather relevant theme in modern Russia (where I live). Though the government and opposition numbers differ only 2,5-3 times.
Here from Luxembourg! We're using your videos for our "Society, Culture and Politics in Britain during the 19th century" and this explains so much, thank you so much for these videos, keep up the great work ^^!
The brevity of your exposition apropos to Chartist movement is amazing.
I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR VIDEOS! Seriously, they are the only thing getting me past AP Euro. Keep doing amazing videos, please! :)
that's how u made me fall in love with history tom ...love to watch ur series i m from india n me and my friend lov them
What a pleasure to be able to educate people in India! Thanks for the kind words.
Thanks so much for the lesson! I was studying this thoroughly for the past week and understood nothing of the subject, but in the way you delivered all the information i finally got it. I searched for some of these lessons in spanish before finding you (because i'm spanish) and found none so i apreciate that you do this. You earned yourself a subscriber and please keep doing these lessons!
Thanks a lot for these videos ! I'm a french student learning British History and I wish I had a professor like you haha. Keep up the good work :)
I discovered your channel few days ago and I've been watching hours of your videos already. Very interesting, well structured and very clear introduction to different historical topics. Thanks alot from Montreal, Quebec!
good thing those children only have to work ten hours a day. I would hate to see them be abused. /s
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHA
Tom, that's some aggressive laughing
7:30 *1818 is ~30 years before marx wrote the communist manifesto* . so it isnt maxist language.
maybe marx used chartist language.
but this just sounds like equality & equity striving (as a lot of communism/socialism is. on paper at least.)
thank you to much tom i am an algerian student of english literature and it is very useful to me thanks a lot
I love your videos. :) I'm currently an AP Euro student and thinking about teaching history one day, so they're pretty helpful. Thanks for sharing your content on RUclips!
A pleasure to help a prospective future history teacher. Supportive comments from people like you are are what keeps me going!
peterloo is the place in manchester that it happened in, thats why its called the peterloo mascre
There is a good set of exhibits about Chartism, the Peterloo Massacre and general working class-centred political movements since the early 19th century in the People's History Museum in Manchester
I'd love to see that sometime!
I’m here because Season 3 of Victoria on PBS Masterpiece Theatre just started last week! Thank you for the insight.
Hello Tom,
it's a good way to remember history classes from high school, keep going.
Greetings from Warsaw. :)
Thank you for this refresher on the Chartists. Well delivered and a great comprehensive review!
Student at university of Liverpool here, great series very helpful for overview i was looking for
Great review. Just watched the series “Mill” on Prime. Interesting to se how difficult working conditions were and how they knew, in the early 19 th century…true universal suffrage would make poverty history. They sent Chartist leaders to Australia (as political prisoners). I can see now why Australia went straight to universal suffrage ( including women from 1902), after it’s Federation.. we had the children of all those Irish and English political convicts….. who believed in democracy and a fair days work for a fair days pay. 8hr work/8hr play/8hr sleep was an Australian founding value.
Considering our issues with equal size and unfair districts, we could use one of these movements.
I am so happy I found you. You are a great teacher
Hello Tom! I'm from france and your videos are really helpful! Thank you
The cavalry charge was not actually performed by government troops (who were present but did not participate). Instead the yeomanry, a militia generally formed from land or factory owners, the massacre was caused by jittery local magistrates rather than being ordered by parliament.
Love your channel by the way
Great Job ! Greetings from a history teacher in France !
Just one thing. The parties were called Whigs and Tories. They didn't become Liberals and Conservatives until the middle of the 19th century, when they reluctantly embraced the idea of popular elections (but still only one third of men had the vote after the Second Reform Act in 1867).
Awesome class as always, but I here today to say thank you for sharing the exquisite mural!
this is an epic video. i now know about The Chartist Movement Tom
What was the Charists' position on the British defeat in Afghanistan?
I wish you taught at my school, I'd love to have you as a history teacher for at least a year. Amazing job! I cited your video in my paper on chartism
+Ethan Oppenheim Thanks to RUclips, I can teach you anytime!
Tom Richey I’ll be sure to catch up on all your videos!
horses got injured lol man youre funny and also a good teacher
The meeting figure reported by newspapers most resembles the figure found in a written note by a magistrate witness (from Guardian article by Simon Murphy, "Note Reveals Early Details of Peterloo Massacre", August 14, 2019).
The mural you depicted is supposed to be of the Newport Rising I'm pretty sure? Interesting lecture :)
It is about the Newport rising at the Westgate Hotel.
I have my AP Euro final in a few days..any tips? I need a miracle like France needed a hero after the French Revolution.
+HarmonyKelpNguyen I've got a website with resources and also an app called Romulus Euro if you have an iPhone. Check it out at the app store! The 1.1 update should be released this week that will correct some errors and add some more questions.
Watch my videos. Download Romulus Euro from the App Store. Check out my website for other helpful resources.
thank you so so muc. i really did understand everything from lasts video and this one. u really did say me because i have a igcse history exam the next day and i don't understand the teacher. but i could understand from you. so once again thank you.
btw I'm all the way from the United Arab Emirates. so keep doing these series its very useful. once again thank you.
That is very helpful and informative. Thanks a lot... I needed some some context background for reading Gaskell's Mary Barton
Tom, you are great!
thank you! this helped with my paper. Grate information
Your analysis that the newspaper owners didnt have a stake in downplaying numbers along with government is quite simplistic
Judging from the number difference between the government and the newspaper I'd wager that the newspaper has somewhat accurate numbers
Again, brilliant work
I think your videos are really good. I would recommend revising your statement about the United States having Universal Male Suffrage in the 1830s. Black men were still not even really counted as people, and they certainly didn't have the right to vote.
this is so helpful for my GCSE thank you!
12:40 that only hapns if the threat of violent revolution seems real.
JC
The intro is fire
thank you so much, it was really helpful
Do you have a video on the industrial revolution? If not than you should make one
aah...nope. In the 1830s there was no universal male suffrage in the States. The 19th ammendment, giving women the right to vote in the States, was passed in 1920.
Cramming for an AP Euro test is a whole lot easier with these videos 😀
Hi from Whitby, North Yorkshire... thanks
Try to use the actual language that the Chartists used, otherwise the students won't recognise concepts in the sources or in text books. Example: point number 2 refers to "equal constituencies", a point that is debated up to the present day in UK politics. How do you ensure equal constituencies, i.e. do you have to redraw the maps/boundaries as populations shift in order to rebalance them every now and again? Also, small point, but "less" is for uncountable nouns, not countable nouns like "people". The word is "fewer".
Any thoughts on whether the British empire was fundamentally different to that of France or China in the nineteenth century....got an assignment due :(
Not sure if I have anything to offer but I hope your assignment goes well!
+Tom Richey thanks:) 2000 words have been produced, not sure they make sense but they are there! Really enjoy your channel :)
thank u this helped me alot i got an A in my history test
Sir , my question is how can we say that 1832 and 1867 acts were remarkable point in british history ?
To Rohit,
How can you ask? If you had no say at all in any supposed governance of your self or yyour children. Would not the day you or your family received a right to vote be remarkable?
Sir did you just say that America had "universal male suffrage" in 1832? I'm not going to get on a soap box and give you a lecture but I'm sure you realize that is an ignorant comment.
Weren't chartists shipped out of GB for protesting?
It is not a given in the USA that electoral districts are equal sized because of the bicameral legislature. There are two Senators for each state, whether California or Texas or North Dakota or Rhode Island. The Senators from North Dakota or Wyoming represent less that one-fiftieth of the population as do those of California. We have our own "rotten boroughs" problem built right into the system. And just as the opponents of Chartism, its defenders cite tradition as the justification. Also, in reverse, a little over 40% of the population of the USA , mostly in the smaller states, can hold a majority of both houses. So, I say we need an American Chartist movement today to ensure that a majority of the population voting in elections should almost always be able to achieve a ruling majority to accomplish what the majority of voters want.
Why was that beautiful artwork destroyed?
Love this!
Sooooo interesting!
thank you for a clear explanation of events, but i do think that the term working class should really be replaced by enslaved class.
oh and how awful for those concerned about their property, and that was not all they were concerned about.
some employers were paying their workers in tokens that could only be spent in the business owners store. no wealth could be accumulated by the slaves so freedom to choose did not exist.
they did not want that to change!
and then the outright inhumane attempt to destroy the chartists with use of the state resources. what an elite rabble have dominated the people of england and still do with their false promises and lies of trickledown economics
Excellent!
👍best teacher
you are the greatest
0:09 my ancestry, Manchester/workhouses...robert owen 🇬🇧💯❤️ 0:57
Great vid hun🙉
the protests happening before the peterloo massacre were actually peaceful, whole families with their kids were there, the upper class just felt threatened by the sheer numbers and what could happen if they became violent (which they weren't) so they sent in the cavalry
teacher how you can memorize all this information.
5:25 onwards pure matthew mcconaughey.."alright alright alright"..uptil 5:27
hey tom is the part 3 out?
+Angel Tyagi Yeah... Is it not linked?
Yaa i got it... hey tom i love your work but m sad that u dint do napoleon wars.. properly.. plz take that topic.. how he became hero and then a zero.. i want to kno every thing.. hoping that u will accept my request. Greetings from india.
tom.. plz.. . m so confused about this topic. i ping you at 2:30 am.. imagine my earnest request...
Like your videos.
Interesting presentation.
Newport is Wales though, not England!!
Does he look like Matt Demon??
but from texas
Paul Rudd actually
Poor horses. :o(
IKR
Hay!
Juanita Goliszewski. 15 people died. Are you for real. Poor horse's!
why is this exactly what i’m doing literally in year 8 😭
Really good until the bit where you say "the newspapers main objective is to report the news" - ignoring all the issues with ownership/editorial bias, censorship, etc
Thanks! :)
2020??? Anyone history homework in lockdown ??
Thanks Tom! Hope that's tea you're drinking...
Why couldn’t he have been my history teacher??😩😩😩
thank you
Please avoid getting your terminology wrong. This Counntry is The United Kingdom, England ceased to exist as a sovereign country in 1707.
Carlyle brought me here
"People have some valid concerns" is a highly misleading way of representing this. The ruling classes in Britain were, of course, concerned. But you should frame it as "concerned that they might lose their method of maintaining and expanding their wealth." Very different (and far less important) than the concerns of the working class here. I'm all for avoiding presentism, but this is simply misleading and fearmongering.
Also framing the Sunday Observer as objective -- "their motive is to report the news" -- is similarly misleading. The Sunday Observer, like any paper, had biases, and likely was terrified of the Chartists. Please consider the way you represent these important historical events!
and another one -- "they just want a government that doesn't ignore them, and that's what they end up getting" is a massive oversimplification. Like any social movement, the chartists contained numerous attitudes, some violent, some more reformist. secondly, it's hard to call these reforms the government "not ignoring" them -- sure, some were thrilled with them, but they were still meaningfully ignored. describing ignoring them as a binary (either they are or they are not being ignored) is also misleading and obfuscates the complexity of political movements.
A newspaper that just wants to report the news... ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Earl Minime is right, the Observer in these days was getting a government subsidy so the editor would be under pressure to compromise, however at the the same time the Observer was developing a Left Wing position since the Peterloo Massacre.
From modern experience, the people on the ground modestly exaggerate the number of attendees based on people coming and going throughout the day, the police and newspapers massively underestimate the numbers to play down the size of support. Which would suggest a number between 50,000 and 300,000 is more likely. However, it would depend on whether these kinds of mass meetings had become commonplace in the era for the newspapers to develop a formal strategy of downplaying protester numbers.
*Ben Dover* hahaha im so done
Great vid! But did you know that 1/10 of the world population are chinese farmers!!! 👍
v sauce cousin
iam from newport and the reason they took down the wall because they were ignorant!!!
are history was dump in a dust yard!
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