Respect for all these people & children. I work with severely disabled children & love my job. Also thinking about working in a hospice. Take care great loving hard work.
Oh that's so sad Indira wasn't able to get out to do some thing that seemed to mean so much to her. She was really very close to the end, it seems perverse that even some one in a hospice really has no idea when their time is up. So tragic that some one so young's life was about to end. RIP Indira.
Poor Sophie. The parents mean well, but they would put her through more suffering with CPR. She should be allowed a peaceful ending. My brother had CPR, he suffered in the hospital for 5 days, and died anyhow. He actually died twice. Too much suffering. Parents need to understand what CPR would do. Fractured ribs, pain, more suffering.
OMG yes! I so wish people had a realistic idea of what CPR actually does to someone. I’ve felt well over 100 ribs fracture under my hands, I’ve looked directly at a sternum due to all of the skin being torn off from compressions (mainly elderly there), massive purple bruises across the chest, and let us not forget the smell of burning hair and skin when a patient has to be defibrillated. That’s just the heart, opening and maintaining an airway is not for the faint of heart, intubation is brutal when done at high speed in an emergency. I have seen far too many patients suffer needlessly for days before passing away devoid of dignity and pride due to what they’ve gone through since the first compression.
Totally agree with you both. My late father was terminal and yet thwy kept reviving him with CPR . I felt bad when i shouted at a young intern for saving his life. Dad told me he felt like he had been run over by a bus.... He was in that much pain for a long time. Eventually we placed a DNR in place ..and he died peaceful in his sleep. I guess pros and cons should be fully discussed before hand ... ..but when someone is terminal , I dont see how prolonginging their suffering.. ..and actually making them ten times worst in pain and disability.. ..is actually beneficial. It almost seems cruel trying to force a dying body to stay alive. Dignity in death , and quality rather and quantity , is vital. We are messing around with nature too much now. Its not healthy at all.
My dad has congestive heart failure and I am caring for him at home with me. We have plenty of help he’s 78 and has so many complications. It’s hard watching him suffer. But I would have it no other way. But we will definitely use hospice when the time comes. We are lucky to have it in our city. These people caring for the I’ll are fabulous!
The question of dealing with death and illness in prison is very interesting. As an ex -prison officer I have experience of dealing with prisoners with diagnoses of terminal illness, yet who were considered too dangerous to be released. Treatments such as chemotherapy had to be carried out while the prisoner was attached by handcuff and chain to an officer while a second officer kept guard. Not a good situation for any of the participants. Plus, the difficulty of maintaining family contacts under these circumstances was incredibly difficult to manage. Normally the ministry of Justice would make the decision to release the prisoner "on licence" towards the end of life, if there was a family bond and a home to release them to. Otherwise, death would be in hospital, with an officer from the prison in constant attendance.
I had no idea about Dr Bee until reading through these comments, how absolutely devastating 💔 Sudden accidental deaths are always tragic but especially for a doctor who spent her whole life caring for others. I’m glad she had such a positive outlook on life and death, I hope her time at ellenor has helped her family to find some support after their loss. What an amazing lady 🕊️
My mother in law has had dementia for 5 years. We've looked after her at home too, but she become quite aggressive so we've had to move her into a dementa care facility. It's a huge decision as I feel awful about it :(
I know you don't know me but I wanted to say you've done what's best for your mum. And you shouldn't feel bad about that (but I know it's hard from experience). Sending you and your family strength and love 😊
my Mom and I have discussed what will happen if my step - dad might get agressive with A&D - Mom is not ready to deal with that yet - and I'm praying it never comes to that decision .
You don’t know me and I know this comment was a few months ago, but I cannot go by your comment without putting my two cents in. PLEASE DO NOT feel you have made the wrong choice, please don’t torture yourself with thoughts of neglecting or tossing away your mother in law-you have done the exact opposite. Dementia patients require specialized care and 24-7 monitoring, they can often become aggressive and also begin doing things you don’t even want me to mention but let’s just say you would not want it done in your home. Without proper treatment and monitoring, they are a danger to themselves AND to those around them. Your MIL requires a level of care no one can do at home, and you and your family deserve to live your lives as well-driving yourself insane trying to care for her does no one any good. Remember, she will pass before you do, but it doesn’t matter if you’re alive if you lose your mind trying to care for her-you’d be just as gone as she’ll be.
The physical therapist is very nice and well-suited to his job, but he be needs to do a bit of reading up on mnd. It does not improve; loss is loss, and to push past that risks the ability that remains
Sophie doesn't have a good quality of life, sorry, and yes it is selfish, if it was my child I wouldn't resuscitate, that's so unfair on her.. Also just so you know I do have kids
I sincerely hope neither of us has to make that decision with our children, but I pray I’m strong enough to knowingly put myself in my worst nightmare to save my child the pain and misery of a slow death. I don’t pray often or for many things, but I very regularly pray for strength I need to protect my children from suffering.
I have to agree. Good cpr only really works in a hospital setting. Most people resuscitated do not recover. Those that do will probably have some sort of brain damage. In Sophie’s case I doubt her mum would be able to get her on the floor and perform cpr until help arrives. The mum unfortunately is being selfish but I suppose we are all different.
Gosh, I would not dream to judge a poor parent who has a child like Sophie. It’s so beyond my experience to have such a disabled child, but I can see this mum loves her child just as much as I loved mine, ie more than life itself. She might be making a wrong choice but jeez, I’m not judging
Third year nursing student and this makes me want to work in hospice.
Ellenor is absolutely amazing. It gives me hope in humanity again.
Respect for all these people & children. I work with severely disabled children & love my job. Also thinking about working in a hospice. Take care great loving hard work.
Oh that's so sad Indira wasn't able to get out to do some thing that seemed to mean so much to her. She was really very close to the end, it seems perverse that even some one in a hospice really has no idea when their time is up. So tragic that some one so young's life was about to end. RIP Indira.
Poor Sophie.
The parents mean well, but they would put her through more suffering with CPR.
She should be allowed a peaceful ending.
My brother had CPR, he suffered in the hospital for 5 days, and died anyhow.
He actually died twice. Too much suffering.
Parents need to understand what CPR would do. Fractured ribs, pain, more suffering.
OMG yes! I so wish people had a realistic idea of what CPR actually does to someone. I’ve felt well over 100 ribs fracture under my hands, I’ve looked directly at a sternum due to all of the skin being torn off from compressions (mainly elderly there), massive purple bruises across the chest, and let us not forget the smell of burning hair and skin when a patient has to be defibrillated. That’s just the heart, opening and maintaining an airway is not for the faint of heart, intubation is brutal when done at high speed in an emergency. I have seen far too many patients suffer needlessly for days before passing away devoid of dignity and pride due to what they’ve gone through since the first compression.
Totally agree with you both.
My late father was terminal and yet thwy kept reviving him with CPR .
I felt bad when i shouted at a young intern for saving his life.
Dad told me he felt like he had been run over by a bus....
He was in that much pain for a long time.
Eventually we placed a DNR in place
..and he died peaceful in his sleep.
I guess pros and cons should be fully discussed before hand ...
..but when someone is terminal , I dont see how prolonginging their suffering..
..and actually making them ten times worst in pain and disability..
..is actually beneficial.
It almost seems cruel trying to force a dying body to stay alive.
Dignity in death , and quality rather and quantity , is vital.
We are messing around with nature too much now.
Its not healthy at all.
Angela is an Amazing woman.. Her soul shines through so special. She does a wonderful job. Seems like a lovely lady
My dad has congestive heart failure and I am caring for him at home with me. We have plenty of help he’s 78 and has so many complications. It’s hard watching him suffer. But I would have it no other way. But we will definitely use hospice when the time comes. We are lucky to have it in our city. These people caring for the I’ll are fabulous!
Wow. Andy is phenomenal.
I totally agree such a good man
Rest in peace sweet Indira.
The question of dealing with death and illness in prison is very interesting. As an ex -prison officer I have experience of dealing with prisoners with diagnoses of terminal illness, yet who were considered too dangerous to be released. Treatments such as chemotherapy had to be carried out while the prisoner was attached by handcuff and chain to an officer while a second officer kept guard. Not a good situation for any of the participants. Plus, the difficulty of maintaining family contacts under these circumstances was incredibly difficult to manage. Normally the ministry of Justice would make the decision to release the prisoner "on licence" towards the end of life, if there was a family bond and a home to release them to. Otherwise, death would be in hospital, with an officer from the prison in constant attendance.
doctor bee is an absolute angel
I wish our do tors here in Canada 🇨🇦 were so kind hearted.
@@ickiedeer-lamb7282 same! I'm in Canada too and I share your sentiments.
Sadly , Dr. BEE died in 2022 following a car crash .( according to comments on a previous episode of this programme)
Hopefully we'll find a cure for MND one day. It's such a cruel disease.
I love the green and blue hair.
I had no idea about Dr Bee until reading through these comments, how absolutely devastating 💔 Sudden accidental deaths are always tragic but especially for a doctor who spent her whole life caring for others. I’m glad she had such a positive outlook on life and death, I hope her time at ellenor has helped her family to find some support after their loss. What an amazing lady 🕊️
My mother in law has had dementia for 5 years. We've looked after her at home too, but she become quite aggressive so we've had to move her into a dementa care facility. It's a huge decision as I feel awful about it :(
I know you don't know me but I wanted to say you've done what's best for your mum. And you shouldn't feel bad about that (but I know it's hard from experience). Sending you and your family strength and love 😊
my Mom and I have discussed what will happen if my step - dad might get agressive with A&D - Mom is not ready to deal with that yet - and I'm praying it never comes to that decision .
You don’t know me and I know this comment was a few months ago, but I cannot go by your comment without putting my two cents in. PLEASE DO NOT feel you have made the wrong choice, please don’t torture yourself with thoughts of neglecting or tossing away your mother in law-you have done the exact opposite. Dementia patients require specialized care and 24-7 monitoring, they can often become aggressive and also begin doing things you don’t even want me to mention but let’s just say you would not want it done in your home. Without proper treatment and monitoring, they are a danger to themselves AND to those around them. Your MIL requires a level of care no one can do at home, and you and your family deserve to live your lives as well-driving yourself insane trying to care for her does no one any good. Remember, she will pass before you do, but it doesn’t matter if you’re alive if you lose your mind trying to care for her-you’d be just as gone as she’ll be.
Is there a musical society near you because I’m sure they would love to entertain the lovely people at your amazing hospice.
Angela sounds like Nancy lamb the chef and just as good at explaining things
You do a wonderful job 👍🤗😘
Dr Habiba Hajallie (dr bee) sadly died in 2022 😢
How is Sophie doing?
Oh no, broken ribs with CPR? Better not try to save the person's life then.
The physical therapist is very nice and well-suited to his job, but he be needs to do a bit of reading up on mnd. It does not improve; loss is loss, and to push past that risks the ability that remains
Sophie doesn't have a good quality of life, sorry, and yes it is selfish, if it was my child I wouldn't resuscitate, that's so unfair on her..
Also just so you know I do have kids
I sincerely hope neither of us has to make that decision with our children, but I pray I’m strong enough to knowingly put myself in my worst nightmare to save my child the pain and misery of a slow death. I don’t pray often or for many things, but I very regularly pray for strength I need to protect my children from suffering.
I have to agree. Good cpr only really works in a hospital setting. Most people resuscitated do not recover. Those that do will probably have some sort of brain damage. In Sophie’s case I doubt her mum would be able to get her on the floor and perform cpr until help arrives. The mum unfortunately is being selfish but I suppose we are all different.
Sophie does have a good quality of life, just because she has an incurable illness doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to live.
Gosh, I would not dream to judge a poor parent who has a child like Sophie. It’s so beyond my experience to have such a disabled child, but I can see this mum loves her child just as much as I loved mine, ie more than life itself. She might be making a wrong choice but jeez, I’m not judging