Forensic Psychologist Dr. Dawn Hughes Shares Her Expertise in Court (Johnny Depp v Amber Heard)
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2022
- On Tuesday, Forensic Psychologist Dr. Dawn Hughes took the stand in the defamation trial. During this segment, Dr. Hughes established her credibility and demonstrated her expertise in court. Dr. Hughes was called to testify by Amber Heard's legal team.
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The most disturbing part of this doctor’s testimony was her implying that women are ALWAYS the victim and men are ALWAYS the abuser. smh
She admitted earlier that men could be victims too but then proceeded to use pronouns in every description painting women as the victim.
Something about this reminds me of the Jodi Arias trial.
Yes! Disturbing! That's not how a professional should speak!
she even said how the size matters and cause men are bigger and stronger they can't be harmed by a female. As a woman, I was disgusted by this.
It was baffling
I felt like I was in a lecture when the other psychologist was testifying and this one feels like listening to my drunk aunt at a family reunion.
Yeppppp
lol.... your narcissistic entitled drunk aunt you mean? A Karen, per se.
🤣
Best comment ever😅😅😅
Lmao
Now you have an example of how being “board certified” doesn’t always make you a great professional in that field.
Dr. Curry could show this lady a thing or two.
@Archie Baldwin No, because de Dr. Hughes was biased and unprofessional.
Absolutely correct!
Funny. Whenever i've said this in the past, nobody believes you because CerRiFieD PeoPle KnoW MoRe ThaN YoU Do!" and now all of a sudden people agree with me.
Man i hate being right all the time.
Definitely
@@datatsushi2016 I think at some point, if you're good enough, you just don't care about certifications. It might depend on the field, but my reasoning is that if you're a master at your craft, you can be self taught and know more than a persons with multiple certifications just because you are passionate and learn how to do things better.
From her aggressive demeanor, to heavily relying on notes and then scoffing TO THE JURY when the judge rightly corrected her for it, to the dramatic language portraying Amber’s words as undisputed fact, this was the most bizarre “expert testimony” I’ve ever seen. Just…WOW.
For me, she has issues...
👏🏻 agreed
how many court trial expert testimonies have you watched?
She has to rely on findings of others to give her analysis. You people are so idiotic.
Sadly it was allowed. It was a circus and JD allow it. It does not mean on the cross examination they will allow him to do the same . That when he'll regret it unless it was a negotiated by both lawyers. Believe me sadly they do that .
She had problems with remembering her examinations and dates… but she didn’t have any problems with remembering what Amber told her 🤡 🤷🏻♀️
EXACTLY. I caught that too!!
Well noticed!
Because she’s lying
Should now this is not the same area in the brain. Name and dates are in a different box than memories with people (to resume)
Yes! It gave me a very uneasy feeling. It felt so scripted. Does she have to show any official documents to back up all those things Amber allegedly told her those years ago?
Her constant use of "she" as a synonym for "victim" and "he" as a synonym for "abuser" was absolutely disgusting. And that started way before talking about this particular case, but when she was talking how things are in general. She couldn't even use 2 common names when she wanted to put names in a hypothetical scenario, and used "Amber" and "Johnny" instead..
This has been the most unprofessional and biased testimonial by far in this trial..
English isn’t my main language and even I noticed the bias in her use of pronouns
@Annon_28 6 men 3 women all in their 20's
AGREED. The sexism is so so blatant... hope the jury caught that too
@@nicemovies99 all in their 20's?.. omg, I don't know if that is good or bad...
Your so right on what U said U know Ur stuff
You know the scariest thing about this witness, is that after this she just goes back to work to continues spread her bias, poor judgement and improper information.
As in fact as a victim you like to be sided, but it doesn't help in the end to clear situations. I would be afraid, she would hit me, when I would have points I wouldn't agree with.
She... her... she... her.... He... him... he... him. Amber IS a victim because she told me so. This woman is clearly a biased and corrupted extreme feminist. So glad the Jury believed Dr Shannon Curry and not this sham expert
She is totally unprofessional, I'm a psychologist and in the first class of domestic violence we learned that we can't refer to woman/she as the victim if we generally speak about this subject.
did you learn in your first class that women are usually the victims of domestic violence? Most people in the field recognise that women are predominantly victims of domestic violence
@@bethanyh.9489 So because most victims are women, she should use "she" and "her" in a courtroom? When she has the option to use inclusive pronouns..
@@user-eu1rh2nm8j Her client is a female and she makes statements about females. If her client were a male then it would make sense that her statements would be 'he'. The pronoun police can rest up here.
@@bethanyh.9489 eye roll, disgusting excuse for her to NOT acknowledge a man as the victim
She is not giving a general lecture on domestic violence. She is testifying on behalf of a woman in the context of how domestic violence affects women. They established this at the beginning of the testimony.
Basically she is saying throwing redbull cane ,vodka bottle and damaging and chopping someone's finger off is mild violence but running away from argument is severely violent behaviour .
WoW lady ! I am praying for your patients . If you have any .
And Pooh pooh
🤣🤣
I feel like she’s getting paid to say this. That or she’s projecting.
She has patients who love her because she always sided with them. And they will continue to think that they are right and continue to think that they are the victims.
That's in itself is a huge problem to our society.
She is the loud and clear exemplification of Karen with title. A Karen with a board certificate
She is the reason why Dr. Currys testimony seems bulletproof now. And they were grilling Dr. Curry with that "board certified" bs lmao
I thought the same thing!!!
What’s more, on at least one occasion she revealed that she had been following the trial, as she referenced testimony given by dr Curry in order to discredit it. Surprising that Depp’s team didn’t pick up on that.
She had to look at her notes not that much of an expert
I hope so! She was making so many claims against Dr. Curry. I just hope the jury recognizes she is bias.
I also hope it comes out that someone has been paying Dr. Dawn for her testimony - *Musk
Plus Dr. Curry is so much hotter
As a psychologist I feel so ashamed watching this video, this woman is an embarrassment to the psychology workfield. There are no tests what so ever that can tell what abusive behaviour took place. It's not our place to say anything about whether a person is guilty or not. And let's not forget that tests can be easy to manipulate if you wish for a certain outcome.
Even if you were an amazing psychologist you would never have the level of qualifications and experience that this doctor has. Let's be honest, you're just another Depp groupie.
How do you feel about her assertion that the PTSD was caused by her relationship with Johnny and not by her abusive childhood? Do you feel comfortable determining causation like that in practice? I’ve never met a HCP that did. That surprised me.
There are many more you could be ashamed for.
Can you point me to a timestamp in the video where Dr. Hughes states there's a test Amber took indicating Johnny is guilty? She is speaking in absolute generalities. That is, unless I've missed something and you can provide said timestamp?
My comments too testify to that. I’m so glad to see others of us out there setting the record straight so that the practice of psychological evaluation and treatment does not appear unscientific easily biased and unfounded by years of rigorous research. I also hope people don’t go away with the idea that two different therapists can see something completely different because in fact treatment and diagnosis is based on research markers and because the patient’s coping and wellness and any others who they may harm are supposed to be our focus we should not be open to contradiction easily or to disregarding a colleague’s assessment unless we have facts about their skills and clinical practices that suggest their opinions are unfounded. She is a disgrace and a fraud. I would not trust anyone’s mental well being in her hands. And I don’t know either professional her or Dr. Curry but the very different ways in which they both described their findings and the ease with which Dr. Curry backed up her conclusions without trying to elicit bias and not needing to refer to notes or cite alleged incidents showed Dr. Curry’s objectivity, which this woman did not show to me. In my educated and personal opinion on the subject matter.
" Women dont yell back." Thats a good one😂
I have a Masters Degree in Psychology, and this “expert” witness did not call into question the MMPI -2 (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory). It was this test that Psychologist Shannon Curry used to determine that Heard had Cluster “B” personality traits, namely Borderline and Histrionic. This is an objective test, and it has been highly peered reviewed over decades. From my perspective Dr. Hughes was not following the evidence.
Agreed.
I agree on this, she only "followed" what she wanted to.
Thank you for you're insight ☺👏👏
The only problem I could see with Dr. Curry (imo, also I don't know anything so please correct me) is she couldn't easily say off hand if any of the scores were over 65. If I remember correctly, 50-65 is WNL but under 50 or over 65 is outside normal limits?
I would think that should stand out to her since she labeled her with the 1,3 (I believe) which would have been most damning for AH given the case. And even if she didn't remember the number exactly, shouldn't she have like...studied it or tried to memorize it a little more?
I'm not criticizing her because I'm not a doctor or anything nor do I have a degree in psych, just something that interests me and I'd love to have input from people who know more about it.
biased and fabricated.. but what matters is if she can proved anything she says about dv from amber heard..? cant tell.. her testimony are useless without concrete proofs
She is so quick to respond in such depth without much thought...
...something feels not right about this.
Sounds totally rehearsed. 😂
And then suddenly has to go through all her notes about Amber Heard because she can't remember and "wouldn't want this to be a memory test". She's the definition of bias.
isn't it funny how she had to keep reading her notes because she couldn't remember anything about amber's actual testing and evaluation, but then she had PERFECT memory of alllll these stories of all these things that supposedly happened to amber and all these things Johnny supposedly did! So grossly unprofessional
Totally rehearsed. As other have said, notes for dates, consultations, types of tests conducted yet she could rattle on for 20m without stopping for breath regarding all Heard's alleged incident reports.
Yes it is odd!!
As someone who grew up with a mother who was definitely abusive towards my father and myself, her use of the words he and she definitely hurts…
I felt the same. My mom was the abuser. My dad's only crime was the inability to make her happy, no matter how hard he tried.
@@lisacarol1433 My background exactly. Out of three siblings I was the only one who would take his side, so of course I received her wrath. Once she and my then 11 year old nephew travelled 8000 miles to visit me. I had not seen her in 13 years. We spent the first evening until the wee small hours catching up and I really thought this might be a great holiday after all. Next morning we were both sipping coffee in my bedroom while I was fixing my hair, when she started screaming and calling me awful names. She actually danced her legs the way three year olds do when they want to get their own way. She was a tall woman, 5'11", so you can imagine! She was insane!!
Eventually she was able to verbalise her disgust at me. My late father's photograph was sitting on my dressing table and when she saw it she lost the plot. . She ranted on for an hour or so, and then stopped talking to me for the next 8 days. After that I had another 2 weeks of her delightful company, but with that old familiar depressed anxious feeling from childhood, which up until then, I had managed to suppress. No amount of explaining that she may have thought him a bad husband, he was still my father and I loved him. 😥
@@gerryjordan2791 Putting kids in those types of situations is just wrong.. I hope you got far enough away from her to heal. My mom is 89 now and just as abusive as she was when I was a kid. I didn't have peace till I stopped trying to have a relationship with her.. took me forever to realize it's always going to be all about her and she is always going to hold up the ugliest mirror she can create to see anyone and destroy them in every one's eyes she can. . My mom does not see what she has done and will never admit it. My dad killed himself when I was 14, she had twisted him up so bad, he didn't have anything left to live for. She destroyed 2 more men after him. Now she is one much younger then her and as hateful and abusive as her. So they slander everyone together and tell each other how worthless they are.
The way Amber is trying so hard to look sad/scared with her face is so funny 🤣.
Especially when her body language is saying the opposite 😭.
When she describes the behavior of "the abuser", it sounds like she's describing Amber's behavior. I hope the jury sees this, too.
Exactly!
Yes. She’s describing Exactly what johnny went through. Everything she’s said could have been said for him.
@@gdright123 why are u trying to start something?
@@gdright123 proof or source of anything that sheds any light against that claim you make? Maybe you know something every person that's testified on this case that they don't know?
Also there are such few amber supporters that when someone is an amber supporter you almost question their humanity!!!!!
This clinical psychologist made it seem that if you have a disorder or an upsetting emotion that it's okay to hit/throw/attack people physically like this is some sort of dance of abusers.
That's not what she said. Your comprehension skills are terrible. 👎
Or if you’re a women the violence is less severe
The feminist framework does tend to view the victims actions as occurring under duress and intended to end or escape conflict rather than wholly by their own volition with the desire to control the other
She does... but only if you are female.
It's simple:
If the male is the aggressor, easy case.
If the female is the aggressor, the male did her do it.
Such enlightening comments especially from clinical psychologists. I have been to a therapist severally and i would be surprised if my therapist took the stand and narrated everything i told them as if it was FACT and gospel TRUTH.
She’s not even her therapist. She was just hired for this case.
16 minutes in and she’s still talking about herself and her qualifications. 😂 This is going to be fun!
Tomorrow is a must see when her testimony gets cuts to shreads as she won’t be able to rely on her notes 😂
I hope they do a where are they now next year I'd like see how far off the horse people fell being in this case on the stand after everything said an done johnny wins a lot of Amber's people are going to loose everything because of her
Can't wait to see Justic should b done
40 minutes into her testimony, and I swear, all she needs to do is switch the pronouns and she'd be testifying for JD. I think Depp's attorneys are going to have a field day with her.
Exactly my thoughts
Yup!!
Thinking the same thing
Totally agree
yep, I was thinking the same, change the constant 'he' with 'her', it makes a lot more sense
Did anyone notice that at 1:10:06, the psychologist's description of the type of behaviour trauma survivors exhibit quite literally describes JD. The description was so apt Ambers lawyer realised it and tried to course correct the description to align more with the way Amber behaves.
This Lady only ever refers to women as victims in her descriptions of violence, never the abusers. How can she get to such prestigious positions which such prejudice and bias? 🤯
REALLY good question.
She... her... she... her.... He... him... he... him. Amber IS a victim because she told me so. This woman is clearly a biased and corrupted extreme feminist. So glad the Jury believed Dr Shannon Curry and not this sham expert
I have to wonder how many of her victims are abusers perpetrating a set up of the real victim like Amber did to Johnny
What bothers me the most about her testimony is that she stated emphatically that “this is what Johnny Depp did”, with zero evidence to support that. She did not state that these things are what Amber TOLD her he did or told someone else that he did. There’s a distinction, and it’s a big one.
How can jonnys lawyers not object to speculation or hearsay
@@jh7589 I was wondering that too 🤔 I kept screaming "hearsay" "hearsay" at the screen
2 reasons ...professional witnesses are allowed to speculate...and they wanted her to hang herself/ introduce enough speculation that they could hammer her on cross
@@jh7589 they want to use this in cross
@@jh7589 yeah, when you have evidence strongly in favor of your council, you don't want to "chewbacca defense" with various objections that interrupt the testimony and distract the jury. They want her to say everything, so that she goes on record and under oath. Then, once the cross-exam comes, they'll use every word of hers against her. You only throw objections nonstop if your case is so bad that the only way to win is if the jury is so confused they don't know how to find you guilty. That's the predicament Rottenborn is in.
All of her evidence is just Amber’s words. No audio. No physical evidence. Just…as the defense says…”hearsay”
Listening to hear testimony, I was screaming “It’s just her words! Where is the proof??”
they just wasting our time by re using their testimony over and over again.. it might be because the judge refuse to dismiss the case that they asked earlier.. cant tell
Amber on stand
True. It's all a bunch of lies & false statements. They have no actual PROOF for any of that.
They’re supposed to have notes with every visit, unless of course it was just hearsay. Lol
And stats. "Women can be beaten by men, therefore it probably happened here"
She keeps saying “a woman doesn’t choose to be in a DV relationship ect”. She never says a person doesn’t choose. She keeps only associating victims as females. Anyone can be a victim, not just women.
Yes, I know, that women are more victim than vice versa, but I clearly have to say mentoo in general.
This was not an expert, it was an advocate. You can see the look of determination on her face.
Psychologists are advocates, it's part of their ethical duty.
Wrong. An expert witness has a duty to the Court and to give testimony impartially. An expert who advocates creates a clear ground for bias, which might grant appeal rights.
@@marks2997 You can testify and still be an advocate. Otherwise no psychologist could testify as it's part of their job to advocate for the vulnerable.
Eg If you happen to advocate for slave labor victims, you can't testify in a case where slave laborers are involved?
I get what you are saying Tamara. I think we at cross-purposes. You appear to be referring to a partisan witness. Such witnesses do tend to be advocates, I agree. But an independent expert must follow the rules of the Court. It’s not their role to advocate but to report to the Court impartially.
@@marks2997 I don't think she saw her role in this trial as one of advocacy, as she did more than what is necessary to assess Amber and her conclusions are pretty watertight, based on 29 hours of assessment with 12 psychometrically validated tools, lengthy interviews with others, scrutinising records, and interview with Amber. It's hard to poke a hole at where she might have interpreted something wrongly, even if one disagrees with her conclusions.
But nevertheless, she is probably also an advocate for victims of violence (most clinicians would be, including Dr Curry).
The fact that she kept reading from her notes when that’s not allowed in the courtroom while testifying is ridiculous. Dr Curry didn’t read a single thing.
Unless Curry was told to directly at least.
@@EvanJoanette you’re allowed to go over the notes to refresh your memory but not read directly from it. 🤷🏻♀️
She should know that as an expert witness. Same in every jurisdiction. Thought she was so experienced at trial. 🙄
@@EvanJoanette those notes were all been accepted by court ahead of time. Dr Sexist here had her own personal notes whit her whitout asking or turning them in beforehand. Her notes has also not been turned in to team AH or team Depp. All other witness notes have been aviable to both parties.
@@EvanJoanette The "notes" have to be filed before you can use them in testimony. This sham of a "expert" didn't even know that. She can't read it because it hasn't been filed.
She did not offer her expertise, she told her opinion based on her clients story. I'm alleging this "expert" was bought 🤯
With JDs moneys lmao shamber
Thats true of johnnys psychogist also
@@pjom4191 No it is not? There's a huge difference between hiring a field expert to testify regardless of the outcome of the expert's findings compared to hiring a field expert that has been working closely with one of the parties. Dr Shannon Curry was hired by JD to interview AH and give testimony to her evidence regardless of whether it helps JD's or AH's case. Dr Dawn Hughes has been treating AH so her opinion is by default swayed towards AH. As Dr Shannon Curry has stated, it is considered unethical in her field for a treating psychiatrist to be used as expert witness as compared to a forensic psychiatrist because a treating psychiatrist will naturally feel the need to protect someone under his/her care.
And to back it up with facts, Dr Shannon Curry was talking about the tests she did, the interviews and what it all means for the jury to understand. For the most part, Dr Dawn Hughes was simply reiterating what AH told her, without a shred of physical evidence. Do you not see the irony? Dr Dawn Hughes couldn't even remember the facts of her findings and had to consistently look at her notes yet she can remember every single detail of what AH told her.
Like dr curry who had dinner with depp before speaking to amber? 😂
@@reveirg9 why would johnny pay curry if she was going to disagree with him ?
Watching her testimony honestly made me feel so uncomfortable. I really hope the jury sees what everyone in these comments see. Her bias was nothing short of disgusting. Even when she said that men could be victims also, she was shaking her head rather then nodding! She made my skin crawl
I love how she used weight classes in boxing/wrestling as a justification for why a small woman couldn't hurt a big man, but she did so without taking into account that both parties in a boxing or wrestling match want to fight and want to win.
If a boxer wants to fight and the other bigger boxer never strikes back, guess who is going to suffer the most damage?
also even if you are big it doesn't matter if it's the small one is the one with the best technique.
I could not agree more
short people are scary to tall men because they have an easier reach to their weak spot
(this is a conclusion without any evidence)
What grosses me out is she's presenting everything to the court as if it's fact, not that it's simply what was reported to her. Another problem is her only women can be victim's attitude is sickening. Her testimony should be thrown out entirely. It's disgusting.
I Deeply Agree
I would give her a "Yelp" review of zero if possible, but probably not (just like the possibility that men are victims of violence AT ALL!)
It's all Amber has. Her own words being regurgitated by an "expert" and claims of Johnny being an alcoholic even though everyone already knew that and it doesn't by any means automatically make him an abuser. The audio recordings didn't seem to do her many favors and everything else her team has tried is just muddying the waters.
Don’t forget … she is being PAID for this testimony.
And she’s been ruled an expert witness by the court, so her testimony is entered into the evidence. It’s the jury’s duty to decide which witnesses are credible and which are not. Her opinion is all she has to bring, as the expert witness.
How Dr.Curry identifies an abuser: “The Abuser” / "Perpetrator"
How this person identifies an abuser: “He" / "Man"
How Dr.Curry identifies a victim: "The victim"
How this person identifies a victim: "She" / "Woman"
Just shows who's the real professional here.
It was so noticeable
I remember a quote from last week, as dr.curry said specific women AND men can be victims (a tiktok showed up today about how cr.curry includes all types) but this doctor here is only she she she she she she she. She‘s so annoying.
Did you not listen? She was referencing how intimate partner violence impacts women specifically, the chapter she wrote was about women specifically, she’s talking about how women respond to trauma specifically. She isn’t saying only women are victims, she never said that, she was careful to say people when she was referring to men and women, and women when referring to women. Jfc.
@@Camibug so everyone misunderstood her except you right? Only a true feminist can understand what she meant right? 🤣
Ikr! This Dr is a fraud. If the jury don't see through her then they're fools. Considering at least 6 of the jury are men, I wonder how they felt being seen as abusers simply because of their gender. I hope the jury are smart enough to discount this "doctor" and her ridiculousness.
This judge looks more and more like they're questioning their life choices as this trial continues. 🤣🤣🤣
This expert acted like a witness recounting events as if she was present for her hearsay-filled reenactment instead of relaying information Amber told her. Her gender bias was showing, too. I’m glad she opened the door to Amber’s prior violent behavior by stating there was no history. That remark ensued in that long sidebar. My hope is that the remark will allow the introduction of Amber’s prior DV legal matters.
Never seen a witness so biased
She is probably paid testimony
@@minanguyen1608 To be fair, Depp's expert witnesses were paid for testimony as well. I don't think that alone equates to bias, but she does seem to be.
It was a disgrace to the court, to be honest.
"We have to be careful of gender stereotypes." Yet, she speaks all the time how a woman is the victim and a man the abuser.
56:19
Made me furious
Even Johnny scoffed at that line.
WHAT A joke THIS WOMAN IS!!
Omg 😳 what a shock , she’s representing a woman and uses female terms..
Wow 😯 mind blowing
It’s sickening how this woman uses only female pronouns to refer about victims and male pronouns to refer about abusers, I’m a woman and was victim of Violence, but I would NEVER denied that there are a huge percentage of man suffering in silence, because of these biased “professionals “. I really hope the jury can see this.
thank you
absolutely, it is so unprofessional and sounds extremely biased too. we all know males are stronger, and more often the abuser than the victim, BUT you have to take into consideration it is not always the case, and use the correct language when discussing such a sensitive and important topic.
She has a bias towards Ptsd for it being the field of her expertise. It is very disturbing to know how many unprofessional „experts“ can still fulfill high positions.
All this psychologist testified to is HEARSAY, she never saw any marks, never witnessed anything, etc. She has less than 2 stars on google.
Yes, true.
You mean HEARDsay...
The stars in Google are biased, but yes.
Do you know why Depp attorneys never raised any hearsay objection?
To be fair I witnessed the review bombing from XQCs stream live. Not to say it wasn't low to begin with, or that XQC made them review bomb, because he didn't. His chat told him to check the reviews and he saw a ton of reviews using his emotes. That being said, your right. She only had hearsay and I am shocked on how she could spew so many potential lies with nobody stopping her.
She went on and on, telling countless stories as if she rehearsed this for months. Something doesn’t smell right with this lady.
The smell is probably coming up from your crotch. Go take a bath.
Exactly!! I am sure they paid her good
Untill she needs to read things from paper that is. Then her memory is absolutly worthless.
well said, just look at her evil $-eyes
She's done this before. A lot.
What a bitter, angry woman. And that’s before citing her completely unprofessional testimony as a registered ‘psychologist’. There’s a lot of bad psychologists out there, but this one takes the prize.
It seems like she dodged the last question with a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Why didn’t she try to diagnose AH for BPD? That would definitely be relevant if she was a child raised in an abusive environment.
Why was she allowed to constantly refer to the victim as she and the abuser as he in her scenarios?
noticed that aswell. Dr Curry referred to gender neutral throughout
idk but she's going to get ripped to shreds on cross tomorrow. and I cant wait. its gonna be lit
Completely biased the whole way
Because that’s what the Duluth model prescribes.
Gendered biases
Cannot wait for the cross exam! This was such an emotional witness, reading from her papers and constantly looking at the jury. I hope JDs lawyers tear the witness to shreds tomorrow. Good thing is they have ample time to practice 🎉
They also got a hold of those notes after court today so they will definitely have the goods tomorrow. Justice for Johnny
@@iknobetter5961 and Amber's lawyer or this lady didn't seem happy about it complaining. They said they'll make a copy and give it back to them 😂😂😂
@@PineappleBaconPizza yeah exactly and they broke at just the right time to give them the evening to go over them.
She embarassed herself enough today, tomorrow will be worse!
She has an advantage, going home to further rehearse for cross exam
The fact that she can reel off all the qualifications, licenses and involvement with high level policy setting audiences and then display the kind of bigotry she did tells you a lot about why the AHs of the world constantly get away with it while the JDs of the world suffer...
I get the impression she is an activist rather than a professional.
She has an axe to grind with men and got into psychology in the first place is to make her own views influential.
I am 30 minutes away from the completion of an upload called: This Is The Only Video You Ever Need To watch About Johnny Depp And Amber Heard.
She... her... she... her.... He... him... he... him. Amber IS a victim because she told me so. This woman is clearly a biased and corrupted extreme feminist. So glad the Jury believed Dr Shannon Curry and not this sham expert
Exactly. You could easily see the difference in both sides when it comes to gaining information about her. AH only focused on her qualifications, rather than dive into exactly what she does for those she is working with.......
There is absolutely zero evidence presented here. All she did is spout generalisations.
Wow. Just watched a woman publicly destroy her own career. That was the most biased opinion I’ve ever seen. That ‘Every woman is a victim’ mentality just destroyed all your credibility.
This person is the epitome of "Toxic Feminist". The fact that she has all these degrees and appointments is nothing short of scary. Very old school and doesn't appear to know anything about the current world we live in...
I think, those people don't care if so and I 'fear' society is so biased, that they don't see a fault.
basically this woman is spreading hearsays from AH without any evidence or witnessing whatsoever that JD perpetrated those acts.
Her testimony, in its entirety, is "Heard·said"... Actually, this should be the correct term in court from now on, instead of 'hear-say'. "Heard·said," so we can all always remember what it means: A rumor that has no validity and not foundation in facts, and it cannot be proved that it really happened.
Exactly why Johnny's team let her talk. Tomorrow will be great. She just hurt Amber's case more than anything.
Her qualified assessment is considered valid. They are not objecting because there is no Legal grounds to do so.
@@debrastarr9147 they objected for depps therapist
@@debrastarr9147 they didn't object because they are going to roast her under cross examination. Let the truth speak for itself.
Marvelous, how not only her demeanor, the tone of her voice, the intensity of her speech, her facial expression and her looks match the overall perception of Amber Heard, but so do the same of Dr. Curry with her overall ease and brightness reflect my perception of Johnny Depp from the so far witnessed testimonies.
So the things JD said to Amber doesn’t matter ?
Now I wonder how many lives this “psychologist” has ruined, absolutely disgusting, so many men behind bars for crimes they haven’t committed or are the victim of.
She contradicts herself, says that 'biased' should not be in the way of their evaluation, and yet assigns the role of victim to women and that of perpetrator to men. She keeps saying 'women vs men'. That is not fair, it is biased. It should be "victim and perpetrator". Her knowledge is accurate, the problem is that she exchanged the roles. She is describing everything that happened to Johnny as a victim, not to Amber.
She is clearly in a mission against gender (note that she basically only works for women). She dares to make an evaluation of the person that her client is accusing, without ever having spoken to him and evaluating him directly. So much knowledge to not 'conveniently' know that psychopaths accuse their victims of the abuses they themselves perpetuated. They learn to act before others like their victim acts in private, and assigns their abusive behavior to their victim.
Survivors are clearly not safe with this psycho-logist. Notice how she says "eww" when the lawyer gets confused and calls her Dr. Curry. Who does that?. And her 'annoyed' demeanor. That's not professional, it is psychotic and aggressive. Too many psychopaths infiltrated in the field of psychology too. I hope the jury has a foundation of knowledge in human behavior and can see that after all the evidence that points to Amber's malignancy--one must have to be willfully ignorant to not even see how her entire team does not possess a moral compass.
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i could see suprisingly she does have a narcissistic attitude as well..
@@lucerodj11 Yes she does !! And I actually had a thought she may lose her temper under cross examination.
Well said! 👍🏼♥️
@@dantaylor1724 She has an advantage, going home before cross-examination.
This was horrifying to watch. Completely biased! And what a way to dismiss men who are DV survivors.
i felt pain, like someone was hitting me with a baseball bat in my chest watching this.... it's horrible.
@@shub_2146 It was genuinely painful to watch at times, hopefully you can find some relief today- I find watching Emily D Bakers coverage helps me not get too triggered over the case because I have been having a hard time.
At 56:30, this Dr. explains dv occurs between both genders.
@@enagreco3280 People arent listening. They believe Depp is innocent and don't care about reason or facts. They're hearing what they want to hear and seeing what they want to see.
She did. What about the bias that happen when Dr Curry went to have dinner at his house lol then presented calculations and opinions in which twisted with facts of being a bpd. Let’s not talk about that right…
This expert expertly identifies Amber Heard's behavior 😂😂😂
56:20 Dr. Hughes: "Absolutely men can be victims of intimate partner violence. We have to be careful of gendered stereotypes. We can't go in and think 'only the woman is the victim' or 'only the man is the perpetrator'".
Also Dr. Hughes: *Uses Female pronoun for every reference to a hypothetical victim; Male pronoun for every reference to a hypothetical abuser*
She's referring to gendered violence, which is a subset of intimate partner violence. She is an expert in this area and this is backed by a ton of research.
@@Tamarahope77 You mean her entire testimony was referring to gendered violence? (hence the pronouns throughout)?
That's not true - she was talking about all sorts of concepts relating to IPV. But consistently used the pronouns that way throughout.
@@465marko I think if you listen carefully, she first refers to the situational partner violence with gender symmetry then went on to gendered partner violence and began to describe what that's like (with coercive control, intimidation).
If Dr. Hughes is a board certified psychologist, how could she let herself get conned by Amber? She believed everything that Amber reported without evaluating Johnny. It should be a two way street. Not fair. Remember, Amber is an actress and she can really act like the victim. She's even acting LIVE inside the court room!
It’s all about money 🙃
She got paid to testify mate
She really was
Yeah, but she's not a good actress. She paid the expert. The expert is committing perjury.
She wasn’t brought in to assess JD, only AH. Same as Dr Curry which JD’s team brought in, Dr Curry didn’t assess JD either.
You can tell the difference in expertise between her and the last woman. This one is clearly a less respected practitioner.
I don’t see that at all. (And I am Team JD)
@@edieminturn7484 you see it through the biased language she uses on top of her never following any evidence or ever refuting anything dr curry said
@@edieminturn7484 Her statements were gender bias. She had to read notes ( which btw is not allowed to give statement from notes previously unsubmitted) under saying "refreshing memory". She needed her notes for the test results but not for all the things Amber told her. Her emotions were very exaggerated when giving statement. Expert witness are meant to go on facts and data, not emotions or how they feel. She presented hearsay as facts. Was rude to the judge as well when court was ending.
Her rating is like 1.3 stars
@@edieminturn7484 This "board certified expert" woman was there to express an expertise yet she proceeds to talk about gossip she heard from Amber (A PROVEN LIAR AND ABUSER) and claiming it as facts (with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER FOR ANY OF THESE ACCUSATIONS) when she was not even present for any of these alleged situations. This is ridiculous 🤣🤣 What is respectable about that? Especially trying to use the "women are always the victim" card as she turns to a jury, (the majority of which are MEN) to explain her biased opinion none of which are based on actual facts. Respectable? what a joke.
Does she take “stalking “to mean how Amber pretended to like the same thing as he liked to lure him in ? Or how she wore the same outfit as him , the next day in court ? That’s pretty stalkerish wouldn’t you say ? Or how she tried to cause a meeting with him , while she had him under a restraining order ?
I am almost at the end and all I have heard so far is her explaining what domestic violence is. Where's any proof against Johnny?
This woman’s look screams ‘my husband left me so now I will hate men for all eternity’.
She definitely seems to have an axe to grind.
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She has learned her script very well, hasn't she? This was storytelling and not a testimony.
Yes amber has been writing her script for weeks..
A lot of the terms she’s using sounds like the JDs psychiatrist. She’s definitely trying to mimic her
I absolutely agree, it was storytelling! Every single thing she said she was making quite intense eye contact with the jury, at all times. This is a tactic she's trying to use, but it was a little too obvious. She should be at least changing eye contact with jury and everyone in the court. This gave her away that she is storytelling. Doesn't make her seem very professional or reliable at all.
@@SH-bm8yp The over explanation of all her qualifications I had to fast forward.
Why in the world is she staring down the jury and addressing Only them?! AH must have paid her a Lot of $$.
I'm here for Johnny, period! • And I'm sick of AH's "sad, scared looking" face making. Ugh.. So fake!!
It seems like she's just story telling what amber told her and then gave her notes to testify 🤣👍ohk so now when it's Amber's side to testify nothing is HEARSAY ?
This trial has been handled shockingly by the judge. She is clearly biased towards Heards legal team.
I can't believe Johnny's lawyer isn't objecting more to this nonsense. She is leading the witness at every corner
Even her own witness just testified that she was emotionally abusive and hit him. But apparently that’s ok because she was just trying to get some power in the relationship. Like… REALLY?!? Wow.
Yep, I believe she stated a few times that AH committed “minor physical violence” but nothing major… not like JD lost a part of his finger!
@@aleksandrapope7636 iKR!! I guess since he only lost part of a finger and not his whole hand, percentage wise that’s minor 🙄 what in the world?? She was all about minimizing Amber’s actions.
@@aleksandrapope7636 yes she basically said women can hit back if they encounter violence and it's fine but if it's men it's a crime. Wtf
Yup! The LAST thing a battered partner wants to do is provoke the abuser and bring on even more violence! And her reasons for Amber staying in the relationship were equally BS! Most people who are in domestic violence relationships stay because they can't see any other way out. They lack the resources to get themselves away from the situation or have children they are trying to protect. None of that applies to Amber! What a crock!
Ayoo wtf? Which part? Can you please tell me?
They didn't show it in this particular clip, but I watched some of it live and at the very end the judge told Dr. Hughes that she had to give her notes to Johnny's team (so they can review them for the cross examination) and AH’s lawyer seemed kind of frantic about it and she said, “I presume she wants to take that [the notes] back with her…” and the judge said they would make copies for Depp’s team.
Then Dr. Hughes was like, “They have copies of everything that I’ve looked at…” and Depp’s lawyer said, “No, we don’t.”
Then Depp's team and Heard's team walked up and watched as she went through her notes to make sure they got all of them.
I wonder if she wrote some things in her notes that will make her look even worse or discredit her further. She obviously didn't know they were going to take her notes.
(I revised this so it’s more accurate, ‘cause I found the clip and it turns out AH’s lawyer was the one who first tried to prevent Depp’s team from getting the notes. I incorrectly remembered it being Dr. Hughes. Anyway, if you want to watch it search for: “Amber Heard’s Psychologist and Her Legal Team Misbehave After the Court.” It’s on the Redux Dream Lab channel.)
Oh wow that could make it interesting, right?
@@astrialindah2773 That’s what I was thinking.
I hope they got it in full as it was because to me she looked like she was reading a script
Needed them for something else... what possible purpose would they have outside of her testimony? 🤔
@@lawnerddownunder3461 Maybe she needed to memorize them for the cross examination so she wouldn’t have to look at them so much. 😉
I'm legit offended by this. If they're trying to play she is a victim? What this woman is describing is precisely what my first serious relationship consisted of. I highly doubt this happened here. I have been studying this case very closely and I'm not working at the moment. This is so insulting for someone who actually went through what this woman is describing.
never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. -sun tzu
I remember Dr. Curry said that it's unethical for psychologists to determine who's actually the perpetrator because when they listen to a patient, it's their job to assume what the patient said is true so as to act out of a sympathetic manner.
She's such a Live-Proof of Dr. Curry's deposition
💯 true
Yes yes yes!
Facts
Yep, she's clearly decided who the abuser is, not just in this relationship, but in all abusive relationships. Constantly substituting "he" for abusers.
Unethical for treating psychologists, she said, not forensic.
Hope the jury is seeing the one sided story from an expert.
Wow this is at least the 50th time she has testified in court. I guess they should recall her past testimony's. This was Dr. Curry's first testimony and she changed. All her incriminating info on Google in the last week she wasn't married to the muffin man he was married to another woman that's one lie under oath. It was creepy she was sitting in court today.
The way she turns her head to address the jury is so manipulative and just bizarre to watch.
she is not dispelling common myths, she is perpetrating them. I cant get over her using gender specific pronouns, no serious practicsing person does that
This was actually a great move by Johnny's team. They let this chick ramble on and on, clearly stating hearsay, and it was just irritating to listen to; as opposed to the other testimony that was a clear, concise, and factual account of findings that could only be challenged with "but what about the muffins" -- this chick is almost a complete opposite, and Depp's team has an entire day to tear apart her testimony.
It's very obvious she is bias towards Amber and takes her at her word -- that was the main point of the entire trial, everyone took her at her word and it ruined Johnny's career, and now they have proof she was lying. This testimony is her standing in a pool and claiming she's not getting her feet wet.
✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💯💯💯💯💯💯💯Right On, you hit the nail on the head
Actually, good point! I hated every minute of it and checked out very fast. Hopefully the jurors saw right through it
Ok. FIRST OF ALL I AGREE WITH YOU.
SECONDLY...She's NOT a CHICK...OK!?
@@milenaaguirre6925 she didn't look like a dude to me either, , , sorry.
I cannot wait to see her cross examination tomorrow. She will be exposed. Dismantled.
GO JOHNNY BOY!!!
Very unprofessional. unethical. didn't followed the process. did not respected instructions.
How would you know?
@@briansmith2836 because they watched the entire thing 🤓
@@briansmith2836 Some people are intelligent and capable of educating themselves, you know?
Hmmm….this sounds exactly like amber not Johnny. What she says describes her & I’ve no doubt she’s the abuser not him. Amber makes me sick
I have experienced PTSD. It is a very specific state to be caught in, and it affects your behaviour and reality perception in a very specific way. I really hope the psychologist has good reasons to believe Amber Heard suffered from PTSD. If not, she is making a mockery of all the true PTSD sufferers out there.
Four different psychometric tools and review of records, collateral history, observation, and interview with Ms Heard not enough for you? That's far more rigorous than what most people would be subjected to in assessment.
@@Tamarahope77 you are referring to Dr. Hughes evaluation?
@@the3cl3ctic Yes, she was the clin psychologist who assessed Amber for PTSD. She is also the president of the chapter of trauma for the American Psychological Association and has many years research and clinical experience in traumatic stress.
This lady ain’t it. She acted as if she was Amber’s friend, not a professional in psychology
I agree. They may be. In mental health, many mental health practitioners are often what they treat.
She acted as if she was Amber’s gossipy neighbor.
Disagree thought she was extremely informative about DV and coercive control.
@@dmaria8684 I think at times she was. But hard to take her serious when she disagreed with everything another psychiatrist said. Kinda felt she had a bias and took everything Amber said for truth rather than speaking on DV applying to anyone (Johnny included).
I want to see a live debate in court between this doctor and Dr Curry. I feel that Dr Curry would like to face her in person and embarrass her just like she embarrassed Amber's lawyer AKA Mrs Muffins.
The only thing Dr Curry has said wrong in her entire testimony was "...So my husband..." I found that crushing.
@@4-dman464 Very true. She should have just called him Mr. Lucky. But one could always pay big money to her for a psychological evaluation of how crushing it truly was. (Just remember to take muffins)
Will Dr Curry take the stand again to refute this testimony?
Agreed, and I would like to see a panel of judges rate both sides of the debate.
Lmao mrs muffin
1:03:42 What a BS! Especially considering that Amber was the one begging Depp not to leave her!
All that training, all that experience and when she defines intimate partner violence she says that the periods of violent times intertwined with normal times makes it very difficult for a victim to extricate HERSELF from that situation.
There are plenty of cases where women inflict violence on their male partners. She really shows a lock of knowledge stating the victim is always female. All that training, experience etc is a big joke if she can't even acknowledge that men can be victims too.
She did acknowledge it. When asked if men are victims too she answered that they definitely are. At times she was asked things generally, other times she was asked about Amber personally. I don't know if that is in this clip you're watching here, but I watc the live feed.. every single detail from start to finish. For the record, she, Dr Hughes, did acknowledge men are victims too ...you missed that.
Yes but in the meantime she is making tons of money speuing this nonsense.
I'm about 47 minutes into this testimony and I have gotten a fairly good lecture on the nature of intimate partner violence/domestic violence. I have yet to hear about the Heard v. Depp case.
YES!!
Yes. Lol.
Exactly 👏🏼👏🏼
I mean, the lawyer didn’t help with that. Her questions, imo, directed the psychologist into answering that way.
An hour and 9 in that hasn't changed
For someone who only spent a little over 20+ hours with the “victim”, she sure was very EMOTIONALLY invested on the stand.
Also, she wasn’t testifying as an “expert” like she was categorized.. she was testifying as an “advocate” for women. Which is totally biased.
Last, she had a very MOTHERLY behavior in my opinion. Why was she getting so upset during her testimony? Why was she backing Amber so much?
This was unacceptable and I’m actually SHOCKED that the judge allowed it. I really hope that tomorrow they stump her over and over and over.
JD’s lawyers allowed it because they’re going to embarrass her tomorrow
@@RB-ui4sq I have my fingers crossed for that
@@RB-ui4sq exactly, she gave them a lot of openings..
And only over zoom no in person meeting lol
But the judge made her give Johnny's team all her documents to make copies of. 😊
I just LOVE the smirk Dennison has on his face, often in this trial. It is subtle but noticable. It is an appropriate facial expression when he knows someone is full of shi& or when Elaine speaks, all the time lol
All the years of experience, specialties or credentials in the world does not absolve a liar.
This doctor keeps referring to victims as "she" and aggressors as "he" she is clearly very biased
i thought i was the only one who realised this. i hope the jury picks up on all of that.
I absolutely love how she, when listing types of physical violence, skipped word „hit”.
The exact word that Amber described her actions with.
Also such an amazing moment where she used body weight to discredit men’s experiences of violence….
And she said stalking manners, like searching phones, social media and else are male patterns. I know, that this is not right. 😄
Especially when heard and depp are about the same weight 😆
@@bobtwista even without it. According to her you need to take multiple factors into consideration, incl. Weight. So let’s think about it that way: man is 80kg and woman is 60kg. She is the abuser, all the situations are caused by her rage, he only uses physical power to push her attacs away and leave the situation. This psychilogist suggests that weight itself should change the perspective on the situation…. Great. That is toxic femininity at It’s finest and I am ashamed to share a gender with someone like that.
@@bobtwista they are? 🤔
@@TreasureJanasia yeah amber is an above average height, and she isn’t frail, and Johnny is shorter than average and is pretty lean
She very early on revealed her bias when asked to define IPV and said "the abusive behaviours occur over time and not all at once … that makes it very difficult for the victim to extricate HERSELF from the situation". From there I could see this lady would not remain impartial.
Isn't it weird how I have seen shame and embarrassment on Jd's face in this whole trial. BUT AH couldn't even show embarrassment or shame for NOT PAYING money to a children's hospital because of greed.
No and her attitude is not hooked to PTSD. You still have empathy and can not disguise it.
WOW! She was horrendous. I guess “Board Certified” isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
She wasn't being a witness.. she was being an advocate for women.. Plus repeating Amber's accusations and stating them as fact... Judge or plaintiff should have called her on all of those statements... Just lots of hearsay....
no kidding, where were the objections?
Yessss. Was waiting for the hearsay objections that never came...
Absolutely!! I can't understand how she was allowed to speak like that as "fact" rather than stating these things in such a way that this was reported/claimed by AH. Plus she couldn't remember anything in the beginning but once she started talking about JD, she barely took a breath!!
They allowed it to show the jury how wrong she will be in cross exam. They let her dig herself more in while making more statements from Amber and Amber alone (well her mother, but you know)
@@toriinprogress Because it's best to watch everything first and then bury Amber's team neck-deep in Amber's bed crap for everyone to watch. Johnny's lawyers are going to have fun tomorrow.
I wonder how Dr. Hughes will be impacted upon when the court finds in Depp's favour. She is very slick and persuasive, but I think she has uncritically accepted the veracity of Amber's statements to her. As a feminist, I strongly object to her CONSTANT use of feminine language to depict victimhood. Feminism includes the recognition that patriarchy negatively impacts men as well as women.
That lady is off topic completely. Please provide FACTS. That are based ON TRUTH not your personal opinion or generic information that doesn't reflect the story of this case.
She's pathetic. She's biased. She's a shameful person that didn't provide with a single bit of evidence. She just used the man VS woman scenario, what kind of ridiculously bad "doctor" is this?
I agree. Disturbing. I couldn't listen anymore when she starting making those assumptions.
She made me so annoyed with the way she clearly kept apply woman as victim and man as abuser. I just gotta stop watching yesterday's trial.
No, you have it backwards
I agree 👍 but what I don't get is why do they even bring these biased doctors when we all know they're all biased for the side that hired them ? Curry biased for johnny and this lady biased for amber . Whats the point ?
@@seanj5893 To make witness statements.
The way Elaine says "Thank you, your honor" all the time is really funny. Like the teacher's favorite thanking the teacher for the extra homework
Do u think elaine is the judge’s favorite?
Why would the fav student would thank the teacher for extra homework? Ok it’s its the chosen one but having homework it’s awful
Hahahah
@@margotrobbie8582 it’s…. A joke… like…. Teachers fav make everyone eye roll bc they’re goodie too shoe trying to suck up to the teacher and act like they like homework……..
She is emulating JDs lawyers from earlier. Her and rottenbourne began overly agressive and JDs lawyers were polite to witnesses and the judge. They are trying to soften their approach. Also, this is their witness so they don’t have a reason to be agressive.
This lady seriously needs to be evaluated herself. I have never heard anyone be so direct either what they are saying. Johnny did this. Johnny did that. No lady no. This is not how it works. I’m hoping that today Johnny’s lawyers step up and rip her testimony to shreds.
Notice she says that “the interspersed loving/normal times with abusive ones makes it very difficult for a person to extricate HER self from” just a little slip there.
Imagine how many lives this expert has ruined with her "expert opinion".
And how many students she's miseducated. She is also an Assistant Professor in Cornell Medical College. Imagine that??
Ruined the days of many JD fanboys thats for sure
omg I'm sooo embarrased that this woman calls herself psychologist, expert...students know better how to Ax than she did
exactly..... my very thoughts.
her 50 testimonios hsould ve revise and posible jail time if need be
Ikr? 25 years of it too
I’m surprised she didn’t say ambers “ptsd” caused her not to fulfill her donation promises! 🤡
Funny!
😂 don’t worry, I’m sure Amber’s team took some money off this ‘doctors’ payment for forgetting that detail.
LMAO FR THIS IS MAKING ME SICK
It is very interesting how unbiased you all are and how well you listen to the actual content and not what you wanna hear. Very refreshing.
The difference between the two psychologist’s is insane