Abritus 251 - Crisis of the Third Century DOCUMENTARY

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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    In our new animated historical documentary we will talk describe the early portion of the Crisis of the Third Century in the Roman empire, as the Year of the Six Emperors heralded by the coming to power of the first soldier emperor Maximinus Thrax takes the throne. Rome is beset by the barbarian incursions from all sides and one of them - Gothic invasion of 250 leads to the battle of Abritus of 251 between the Gothic leader Cniva and the Roman emperor Decius Trajanus.
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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад +291

    We can neither confirm nor deny that we bought these t-shirts off the Gothic marauders and now are trying to sell them to you: bit.ly/2kRVWX8 What we can confirm is that we are going to work through the holidays and the new videos will be released on the 24th, 26th, 28th and 30th! Thanks for your support. We are here because of you!

    • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
      @grandadmiralzaarin4962 4 года назад +7

      Will you guys be doing more Three Kingdoms videos since Mandate of Heaven is coming out soon? Perhaps a deeper look at the Yellow Turban Rebellion, Zhuge Liang's Northern Expeditions or perhaps the Taiping Rebellion, the deadliest civil war in history?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад +8

      @@grandadmiralzaarin4962 thinking about it

    • @albatros33
      @albatros33 4 года назад +3

      Kings and Generals
      Pls do video about Nader Shah’s Empire

    • @TyrannosaurusRex5027
      @TyrannosaurusRex5027 4 года назад +9

      Kings and Generals Christmas came early with your videos

    • @hadtrio6629
      @hadtrio6629 4 года назад +4

      @@KingsandGenerals my comment was deleted so am saying it again do all north Africa history and the army of abid al-bukhari

  • @Matheus_Oliveira25
    @Matheus_Oliveira25 4 года назад +1184

    Can we raise K&G to the imperial purple?

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад +270

      First RUclipsr-Emperor :-)

    • @hansbass8119
      @hansbass8119 4 года назад +63

      Ave Imperator!

    • @zuboy4272
      @zuboy4272 4 года назад +140

      Me : NO !
      K&G : *Throws Knife*
      Me : *Shatters*

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal 4 года назад +56

      Sure, we have cheap purple dyes now :)

    • @justinian-the-great
      @justinian-the-great 4 года назад +82

      @@KingsandGenerals If you ever become Emperor, don't trust that Pretorian gang. Those are some nasty guys!

  • @Dsonsee
    @Dsonsee 4 года назад +133

    You get a crown, and you get a crown, and you get a crown...

  • @edwardtheblackprince2722
    @edwardtheblackprince2722 4 года назад +181

    Next do the Battle of Edessa 260, where a Roman Emperor was captured by the Persians. I want to learn more on that specific campaign. It would also be next on the timeline, so it make sense.
    It was the first time a Roman Emperor was captured during battle. There are also some interesting stories surrounding the event where some say that Emperor Valerian was treated very nicely by the Shahanshah of Iran during captivity and some say he met a horrifying death. It would be cool if you covered it.

    • @TRUECRISTIANJESUS
      @TRUECRISTIANJESUS 4 года назад

      I couldn't dignify that verbacious nonsense with a respectful reply - even if I wanted to.

    • @Mattyhollis
      @Mattyhollis 4 года назад +27

      We would love to cover Valerian in some way, but the issue is that Edessa in 260 has almost no detail at all in the sources. All we know is that Valerian's army was defeated by a Sassanid force which he outnumbered, and the aftermath.
      There are no details other than that.

    • @edwardtheblackprince2722
      @edwardtheblackprince2722 4 года назад +13

      @@Mattyhollis You gotta do it tho, its too big of an event to not be covered. No one has covered this major event. This battle and this Persian campaign is also what set the Sassanids apart from their Parthian predecessors. The Persians became more confident, aggressive, and belligerent towards Rome.

    • @benwhitnell
      @benwhitnell 4 года назад +16

      Demetrius Poliorcetes he literally just told you why they won’t do it. There is no detail around the event itself worth discussing. If you want to see a video about a battle that you apparently already know a lot about you should make one.

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 4 года назад +5

      @@edwardtheblackprince2722 Rome performed poorly against them in general, Odenathus and the battle of Satala being some of the few bright spots

  • @blafoon93
    @blafoon93 4 года назад +76

    It must have been a nightmarish task to try and unite an country as huge as the Roman Empire. Just imagine that the emperor died, without a clear successor and you have the support of maybe 3 or 4 legions when you rise to emperorship. Nearly no one in the empire knows your name, it will take weeks to even notify regional commanders and governors of the change in leadership, a change of which they will be vary of and rightly so. To them you are just a name they do not know and pledging their allegiance might hurt their future prospects when inevitably someone challenges your rule. Without a steady dynasty, where simply the name is enough to invoke loyalty, these would-be emperors, capable as they may have been, were set up to fail. It is a testament of how solid the Roman administration was that the empire was able to survive for centuries in times when the government was more often than not practically without a head of state.

    • @tubirrr4569
      @tubirrr4569 4 года назад +21

      During those turbulent times and without clear known emperor, Rome survived that long thanks to the effort of unnamed governors in many province, capable general and legion defending the border and a system so solid that can run autonomously even in times when they got no emperor, so yeah they're pretty solid

    • @MasterGhostf
      @MasterGhostf 4 года назад +6

      @@tubirrr4569 Probably due to the senate. That was where many governors and other leaders came to and out of. So Rome had a "mostly" intelligent patrician class that was loyal to Rome because of their contacts and ties there, but were in charge of managing the borders. It was mostly the Generals who were revolting and etc.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 4 года назад

      you gotta plan way ahead, secure key alliances everywhere you can and it helps to be a good strategist in battle

    • @barissaaydinn
      @barissaaydinn 2 года назад

      From the future lol, usually if a man was elevated to the purple, he would be known in the political world. For example, its not like the emperor died on the Danubian Frontier and a new man became emperor then the governor of Britain was like 'who the heck is this guy'. He would've known him even if they didn' meet and talk face to face or something

  • @nbrocx4216
    @nbrocx4216 4 года назад +15

    Ah yes.....The Crisis of the third century. The first video on this topic covered by you guys (more than a year ago. Heck. has it been 2 years now since that video was released? Damn.) is my favourite video of your channel.
    I think, the only 3 figures during the crisis of the 3rd century who could have probably matched the tactical genius of Cniva could have been:
    Aurelian, Claudius, or Odaenathus. (Zenobia too, perhaps? Don't know much about this period).
    I'm quite happy that you decided to bring back, and continue, this series. Looking forward to more of this time period.
    Thank you, K&G team.
    Have a nice day.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад +8

      :-)

    • @nbrocx4216
      @nbrocx4216 4 года назад +8

      @@KingsandGenerals Also, I agree with the comment (by Matheus Oliveira) to raise you to the Imperial Purple. We request that you become the first RUclipsr-Emperor. :)

  • @dakkefernet8585
    @dakkefernet8585 4 года назад +21

    THE best history narrator in history🍻

    • @PrelaE
      @PrelaE 3 года назад

      You can learn more from history from this channel than high school.

  • @Muguratiu
    @Muguratiu 4 года назад +16

    So first of all Decius was a cunning commander. I wonder how all these "wise" men fall into such deadly traps. How can their sight be so darkened as not to see their doom approaching?

    • @darkskullanimehub1631
      @darkskullanimehub1631 3 года назад +12

      The reasons he lost was, He underestimated the Goths and thought them to be savages and barbarians who were poorly equipped, Second the lose of his son had saddened him up, Third Kniva the Gothic leader was smart enough to spot the weak spots in Decius

  • @michaelbarrett3229
    @michaelbarrett3229 4 года назад +27

    I love the Roman content on his channel.

  • @GoFartherPodcast
    @GoFartherPodcast 2 года назад +1

    2:40 I feel like it wasn’t just his wars, but particularly the massive donatives to the army and pay increases that really made him go fishing for funds

  • @GoFartherPodcast
    @GoFartherPodcast 2 года назад +12

    I always felt bad for poor Alexander Severus. I can’t help but wonder: what if he just followed through on the basic duties of military leadership to appease his troops and modify the enemies at the border (or at least put competent people in charge to do that)? His reign could’ve been great! If I remember right, they cut high taxes, kept spending reasonable, and generally ruled conscientiously.

    • @mementius1340
      @mementius1340 Год назад +2

      don't forget that the military discipline was almost totally broken during his reign, it got so bad that he couldnt openly punish the soldiers responsible for murdering their own praetorian prefect. he was also weak and dominated by his mother for basically his entire reign. mediocre emperor, slightly better than average but mediocre

  • @doolallyshake64
    @doolallyshake64 4 года назад +11

    Really interesting. I know less about the Goths than I'd care to admit. Would you guys do a video on the Gangaridai empire

  • @LordVelari
    @LordVelari 4 года назад +6

    "Proceeding therefore incautiously in an unknown place, he and his army became entangled in the mire, and under that disadvantage were so assailed by the missiles of the Barbarians, that not one of them escaped with life. Thus ended the life of the excellent emperor Decius."

  • @Lucasukx
    @Lucasukx 4 года назад +1

    Loved the fireworks and lightning effects! Icing on the cake of an excellent, enthralling video, brilliantly put together!

  • @SandRhomanHistory
    @SandRhomanHistory 4 года назад +2

    that was one hell of a time for ancient Rome.

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 4 года назад +14

    Love those Roman Wars!

  • @aleksandarvil5718
    @aleksandarvil5718 4 года назад +13

    Emperor of Rome Traianus Decius: **exists**
    Goths: *_"We're about to end this Emperor of Rome's Whole Career."_*

    • @OCinneide
      @OCinneide 4 года назад +4

      Senate: HE WAS AN EMPEROR OF ROME! Shame on the house of Goth!

  • @sennaka
    @sennaka 4 года назад

    Crisis of the 3rd Century stuff? YESSSS please

  • @retrogian9577
    @retrogian9577 4 года назад +1

    Hi man great content. Will you do something about the battle of Naissus against the Goths?

  • @a.h.s.3006
    @a.h.s.3006 4 года назад +1

    10 emperors in one video, a new record

  • @paprskomet
    @paprskomet 4 года назад +1

    At the time of battle Herrenius was already rised to title of Augustus which is important detail in that sense it makes Abrittus the only battle in which two Roman Emperors were killed.

  • @harunkarli2573
    @harunkarli2573 4 года назад +3

    I watch your videos with great interest. But I wish every video in your Turkish subtitle. I wish you continued success.

    • @klaus2045
      @klaus2045 4 года назад

      Most of the turkish subs are so shit like even worse than google translate.

    • @harunkarli2573
      @harunkarli2573 4 года назад

      @@klaus2045 probably a Turkish officer must have hurt... ha

  • @gorgon6680
    @gorgon6680 4 года назад

    Can you guys cover the battles of Cortenuova, Parma and Fossalta? They were battles fought between the Italian League of Lombardy and the Holy Roman Empire in the 13th century.

  • @shaolindreams
    @shaolindreams 4 года назад

    Merry Christmas all at Kings and Generals! 1million soon come!

  • @noonespecial7784
    @noonespecial7784 4 года назад

    Thank you for the new video

  • @bramvanhooijdonk1185
    @bramvanhooijdonk1185 4 года назад +2

    Popianus... best name ever.

  • @etherealessence
    @etherealessence 4 года назад

    every single time i watch one of these videos, i always get an urge to play rome 2. dat music....

  • @Rasperdan
    @Rasperdan 4 года назад

    Great post...... I would like to watch some history on the Zulu wars in the future. Love your channel :)

  • @PurpleSixBeats
    @PurpleSixBeats 4 года назад +1

    Video starts at 1:41

  • @stepanpytlik4021
    @stepanpytlik4021 2 года назад

    Hard to believe it's been almost 2 years.

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 4 года назад

    How about some Byzantine videos? Nikephoros II and Basil II were great!

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon 4 года назад +3

    The throne of Rome is prime real estate. And there are many agents.. hmm..

  • @redcapetimetraveler7688
    @redcapetimetraveler7688 4 года назад

    7:18 fireworks in the third century loooooool ;)

  • @timothykimemia5681
    @timothykimemia5681 4 года назад

    Honestly the Republic was much more fierce than the empire.Many Generals competing for glory was the one thing that made Rome great. One man rule greatly stifled creativity & the running Idea in Rome that the Emperor would protect them made them lax & ultimately weak.

    • @torum6448
      @torum6448 2 года назад

      It did pretty well during the days of the Nerva-Antonine Dynasty, with emperors like Trajan,Hadrian or Marcus Aurellius. But for the most part, you're right the Roman Republic was indeed more impressive, the Empire just had a longer lasting legacy, that's all.

  • @DarkKing009
    @DarkKing009 4 года назад

    Gods damn it. Year of the Six Emperors

  • @dontsearchdocumentingreali9621
    @dontsearchdocumentingreali9621 4 года назад

    Can you do a battle of Sinj?

  • @darrenbutler9819
    @darrenbutler9819 4 года назад

    @Kings and Generals, could you look into doing a collaboration with The Armchair Historian

  • @Splatzloki
    @Splatzloki 4 года назад

    *The Goths have opened a breech. Attack while their defenses are down, Victory is OURS!*

  • @alialahmad4329
    @alialahmad4329 4 года назад +1

    14:25 they still considered it a republic???

  • @esatfcelik
    @esatfcelik 4 года назад +9

    WHERE IS SPARTACUS?

    • @justinpulford8206
      @justinpulford8206 4 года назад

      300 yrs dead by the crisis of the 3rd century. Lol

    • @esatfcelik
      @esatfcelik 4 года назад +3

      @@justinpulford8206 really sherlock :)
      I meant spartacus documentry. He promised 2-3 months ago.

    • @justinpulford8206
      @justinpulford8206 4 года назад

      That one went right over my head

    • @esatfcelik
      @esatfcelik 4 года назад +1

      @@justinpulford8206 Nevertheles, he lives in our hearts.

    • @opperturk124
      @opperturk124 4 года назад

      In my heart

  • @yijielu3272
    @yijielu3272 4 года назад

    Waiting for year of the 7 emperors =)

  • @lukred6271
    @lukred6271 2 года назад

    No that's what I f****** call 'strategy".

  • @davidwaynechoate8059
    @davidwaynechoate8059 4 года назад

    Sleep Time Insomnia relief..

  • @MrVeryfrost
    @MrVeryfrost 4 года назад

    Of what I understand, most of winnable historical battles were lost duo to arrogance. Arrogance never helped anyone ever.

  • @jordinagel1184
    @jordinagel1184 4 года назад

    Kinda diminishes the importance of Adrianople later on...

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад

      On the contrary - empire started practicing deeper defense in the next few centuries, and that along with the fact that Constantinople became more important, increased the role of Adrianople.

  • @davidmark225
    @davidmark225 3 года назад

    Love it how people here really think Goths were of German origin 🐿.

  • @pepperino-hotterino
    @pepperino-hotterino 4 года назад

    wasnt Illyricum a province/region in the roman balkans?

  • @enriquevigo1746
    @enriquevigo1746 4 года назад +595

    Roman citizen: So, how many emperors are we gonna have?
    Roman Legions: Yes.

    • @HistoryClass
      @HistoryClass 4 года назад +24

      26 claimants to the title of emperor in 50 years, I am sure that no contemporary Romanian citizen remembered them all

    • @SMAXZO
      @SMAXZO 4 года назад +16

      Roman Citizen: We really should not have the Legions carry the Imperial Purple.

    • @shaundavenport621
      @shaundavenport621 3 года назад

      Pretorians:Depends how much money they've got!

    • @Diogolindir
      @Diogolindir 3 года назад

      I believe that the regular citizen of the empire stopped to care about emperors at some point hahaa

  • @gregs4748
    @gregs4748 4 года назад +354

    Slaps top of the third century: "This can fit so many civil wars in it."

    • @BronxBastard730
      @BronxBastard730 4 года назад +5

      If your not going to make an intelligent statement just dont say anything

    • @AtmasImpaler
      @AtmasImpaler 4 года назад +21

      I thought it was a funny comment. chill out

    • @papadragon695
      @papadragon695 3 года назад +13

      @@BronxBastard730 you’re an asshole

    • @OGDeepStroke
      @OGDeepStroke 3 года назад

      Good comment.

    • @oryan4395
      @oryan4395 3 года назад +7

      @@BronxBastard730 if that's your rule you should follow it. Now go to your room.

  • @IllyrianTiger99
    @IllyrianTiger99 4 года назад +583

    Should have stopped them Goths before they reached imperial age...

    • @grimgoreironhide9985
      @grimgoreironhide9985 4 года назад +74

      Some other people will just simply take their place. Roman Empires fall was unavoidable because the economy was unstable at it's core and it required constant war and plunder to sustain it.

    • @BaltimoresBerzerker
      @BaltimoresBerzerker 4 года назад +99

      Those barracks pumping out the huskarls jrs are unstoppable!

    • @NovaHessia
      @NovaHessia 4 года назад +19

      One would think Legionaries would count as Swordsman line units, and should thus counter huscarls...

    • @TheTariqibnziyad
      @TheTariqibnziyad 4 года назад +14

      @@grimgoreironhide9985 /woooosch

    • @grimgoreironhide9985
      @grimgoreironhide9985 4 года назад +15

      @@kesorangutan6170 The cultural reference was lost on me.

  • @ernestoa.jimenez3206
    @ernestoa.jimenez3206 4 года назад +243

    I once beat a German guy in a game of chess... I declare myself Germanicus Maximus!!!

    • @akapbhan
      @akapbhan 3 года назад +10

      You did a lot more work to earn that title than Lucius Verus did to earn Parthicus and Medicus.

    • @zinetx
      @zinetx 3 года назад

      @@أحمدالعراقي-ل8م3ح The Goths Committed The Massacree of Thessalonica In Which Some 7,000 of The City Inhabitants Were Killed

    • @jibran6635
      @jibran6635 2 года назад

      😂😂😂

    • @phonecallsarejustoverquali1556
      @phonecallsarejustoverquali1556 2 года назад +7

      I once tended to my garden and lawn. Restitutor Orbis.

    • @mementius1340
      @mementius1340 Год назад

      @@zinetx theodosius massacred those 7k people not the goths 😂

  • @OOG_IMP
    @OOG_IMP 4 года назад +254

    If the Roman empire in the 3rd century was a unresponding website then appointing a new emperor would be the refresh button.
    Senate/Legions: _F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5_

  • @yijielu3272
    @yijielu3272 4 года назад +430

    For the "Republic"

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад +114

      Yeah, they liked the word, I guess.

    • @Mattyhollis
      @Mattyhollis 4 года назад +102

      Fun fact: when Constantine triumphed over all of his enemies at the start of the fourth century, one of the things he boasted about was how he had 'restored the Republic'. However, it must have seemed like a farce to everyone who was in the know.

    • @stanleysmith7551
      @stanleysmith7551 4 года назад +42

      The Republic was never dissolved or anything, Augustus Octavian was celebtated for 'restoring the Republic' while becoming the first emperor. The Senate was still active at this point, even plotting against the emperor, it wasn't until Diocletian that republican values and the Roman legal system was reduced to a eastern (mostly Persian) style despotic monarchy with subjects instead of citizens. At the same time the peasent class, who were losing rights and prestige and the agrarian slaves, who on the other hand were gaining some rights and status begun to merge and form the serf class thus starting the late- roman feudalism, putting emphasis on the villa and the land, instead of the cities which started an era of desolation, de-urbanisation and demographic decline.

    • @12345678900987659101
      @12345678900987659101 4 года назад +14

      "WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS."
      -Roman soldier probably.

    • @TheDirtysouthfan
      @TheDirtysouthfan 4 года назад +10

      @@stanleysmith7551 Exactly. The Roman Senate was still an important source of power within the Empire after Augustus, even if it had been irreversibly weakened. They were still appointing legates and giving legitimacy to Roman Emperors, as well as appointing pro consuls and pro praetors to certain provinces. Any trace of such influence though was wiped out by Diocletians reforms, even though it remained an important institution. Hell, even when the Western Roman Empire fell, the Roman Senate remained an important institution in the Italian Kingdom, then the Ostrogothic Kingdom and then the Byzantine Empire when it returned.

  • @pieter-janvanopstal2930
    @pieter-janvanopstal2930 4 года назад +220

    When you get cannead 400 years after Hannibal

    • @v44n7
      @v44n7 4 года назад +33

      400 years, incredible how much rome changed but still made the same mistake

    • @opperturk124
      @opperturk124 4 года назад +21

      They got surrounded in a totaly different way

    • @graccusbro2061
      @graccusbro2061 4 года назад +7

      @@v44n7 a completely different tactic was used here

    • @Wolfeson28
      @Wolfeson28 4 года назад +4

      More like, when you get Cowpensed 1500 years before that becomes a thing.

    • @taaschvlogs5832
      @taaschvlogs5832 4 года назад +1

      the issue with Rome was their leaders were too pompous.

  • @xDocterfi
    @xDocterfi 4 года назад +374

    Man almost 1 million subscribers I remember following you guys at 150,000 awesome to see you guys grow.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад +42

      Thanks for being with us!

    • @Kilen_BE
      @Kilen_BE 4 года назад +19

      Indeed this channel growth is amazing in just couple of months.
      But it’s entirely deserved 👍
      I follow some others channels very similar to KnG, but KnG remains by far my favourite !
      Keep up the good work guys, u do it well 👌

    • @12345678900987659101
      @12345678900987659101 4 года назад +14

      @@KingsandGenerals It is an amazing journey watching you guys grow, you deserve it. Everything about your content is fantastically produced.

    • @StekliCujo
      @StekliCujo 4 года назад +3

      "almost 1 million subscribers" Can we into Parthia now?

    • @nbrocx4216
      @nbrocx4216 4 года назад +10

      @@KingsandGenerals I remember coming across your channel in november 2017.
      I think you had 30k-ish subs. The first vid I ever watched was either the Ottoman battle of Kosovo, or the crisis of the 3rd century video.
      I also came across BazBattles at the same time. I remember he had 5 or 6 videos only. xD
      Both of you have grown so much in 2 years. Proud to be subbed to you both.
      Keep up the good work. Our best wishes are with you guys.
      **Holding the crown, waiting for you to cross 1 mil subs, so that we can name you the first RUclipsr-Emperor.**

  • @Dustz92
    @Dustz92 4 года назад +433

    I find interesting how all 3 emperors that died in battle against foreign enemies (Decius here, Valens in Adrianople and Nikephoros I in Pliska), all died in the same area despite how big the empire was. The low Danubian border, with the Eurasian Steppe was by far the most dangerous of them all.
    Edit: forgot about Julian. Still makes it 3/4 (or 4/5 if you include Constantine XI)

    • @justinian-the-great
      @justinian-the-great 4 года назад +58

      Constantine XI died in battle too, although he too technically died in Thrace, as where Constantinople is.

    • @ade9597
      @ade9597 4 года назад +14

      Maybe a limes on the Dniester would have been a more suitable defensive line, don't you think?

    • @justinian-the-great
      @justinian-the-great 4 года назад +37

      @@ade9597 The were no any big cities between Danube and Dniester, so it would be hard for the Empire to supply the legions. It was a tribal land, whose pacifying I imagine would be similar to the Roman attempt to pacify Germania.

    • @StekliCujo
      @StekliCujo 4 года назад +15

      @@justinian-the-great There were settlements along the Black Sea coast, that might make things easier compared to Germania.

    • @pawelnowak9440
      @pawelnowak9440 4 года назад +16

      Visigoths tried to hold that defense line against the Huns

  • @rexmundi3108
    @rexmundi3108 4 года назад +99

    And there are still Goths today. Mind blowing.

    • @kevin6293
      @kevin6293 4 года назад +8

      Not real goths. Like the Holy Roman Empire.

    • @nedimbajgoric2909
      @nedimbajgoric2909 4 года назад +42

      Aleksa Petrovic spaniards are a mix of visigoths,arabs,berbers and old celto iberians and Italians are a mix of ostrogoths,lombards

    • @yllbardh
      @yllbardh 4 года назад +27

      they are still living in their own island... *gothland*

    • @toddchavez8274
      @toddchavez8274 4 года назад +6

      nedh so where did all the romans go? 🤔

    • @ahamedihamiyun5927
      @ahamedihamiyun5927 4 года назад +14

      @@nedimbajgoric2909 aren't Italians mostly Romans ?

  • @Mrkabrat
    @Mrkabrat 4 года назад +51

    "Thats the last we shall see of them" Marcus Incorrectus, roman centurion

    • @shanezhang8277
      @shanezhang8277 3 года назад +5

      He probably gets everything incorrect.

  • @angquangtruong360
    @angquangtruong360 4 года назад +75

    So sad really. Almost crying.....

    • @graccusbro2061
      @graccusbro2061 4 года назад +25

      @@rohacha9iin40 why? it's like saying that you can't feel bad for this Roman defeat unless you're Italian. lol

    • @PPandaPete
      @PPandaPete 4 года назад +5

      I mean the Roman's had it coming for them anyhow sometime. And so will the Goths.
      There is no reason for emotion. Cniva was just more clever

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 4 года назад +10

      +@@rohacha9iin40, Man, I'm Filipino, yet I am a fanatic for ancient Rome especially during her Imperial years.
      It is always sad to see the legions get massacred by her enemies.
      FOR ROME! DEATH TO THE BARBARIANS!

    • @RileyRivalle2
      @RileyRivalle2 4 года назад +11

      @Best Dad ⵣ
      "Thats globalist and degenerate"
      That's pseudo-edgy and barely qualifies as a troll.

    • @ChosenWarlord
      @ChosenWarlord 4 года назад +2

      Best Dad ⵣ he mourns because Rome was the light in darkness, called civilization. He mourns because the Barbarian hordes seek to extinguish that light.

  • @rahulraveendran4279
    @rahulraveendran4279 4 года назад +24

    The Gothic king is a master strategist..... I liked him.... How easily he defeated a Roman army.... Looks so fresh and formidable.

    • @scipio7994
      @scipio7994 4 года назад +14

      rahul raveendran Aurelian, Gallenius and Claudius II would like to have a word with you

  • @kdemliaseraykesigi1874
    @kdemliaseraykesigi1874 4 года назад +53

    We want byzantine documantrys

  • @kristindreca.8859
    @kristindreca.8859 4 года назад +40

    When Rome fights wars against barbarian tribes and many civil wars you know that Rome is going to fall soon.

    • @v44n7
      @v44n7 4 года назад +13

      Stupid civil wars

    • @helio7455
      @helio7455 4 года назад +3

      @@v44n7 Taxes :::::

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 4 года назад +20

      Not really, their entire history basically consists of wars against barbarians and civil wars.

    • @apc9714
      @apc9714 4 года назад +8

      200 years is not that soon. Especially because only half of the empire fell.

    • @longyu9336
      @longyu9336 3 года назад +1

      Unless the men fighting the civil wars were Caesar and Pompey, then they'd dominate the barbarians still even when fighting a civil war.

  • @huguesdiceva
    @huguesdiceva 4 года назад +40

    Thank you for your 3rd century AD content, from a 3rd century reenactor!
    I must point out your mistake on your previous video on the Roman armies during the Crisis of the Third Century: Berkasovo helmets appeared during the Diocletian reforms and not during the 235-284 period.
    The main helmet of the Severan dynasty (193-235) and Crisis of the Third Century (235-284) era (Middle Empire) was the Niederbieber/Heddernheim enclosed helmet (along with some squamata "camails" as seen on Dura Europos wall paintings.
    Anyway, great content as always.

    • @theodora4218
      @theodora4218 4 года назад +1

      His millitary clip is from a game Rome 2 Total War. it's not about the accuracy of the animation, but it's his way to giving a glimps of example how the military marched or etc i guess

    • @huguesdiceva
      @huguesdiceva 4 года назад +3

      @@theodora4218 Yes I know, I have the game and the mods he uses in this video to enhance the historical accuracy of vanilla's Rome II Roman models.
      In my previous comment I was referring to another video of him ("Roman Army during the Crisis of the Third Century"), where he did mistakes at the end while describing helmets (old Italic types that weren't used anymore and ridge ones who appeared right after the Crisis), and having his "model" using short sleeves tunic instead of long sleeves; no trousers when all soldiers had them since at least Septimius Severus as well as caligae instead of calcei closed shoes.

    • @theodora4218
      @theodora4218 4 года назад

      @@huguesdiceva oh sorry for misunderstood. my bad. anyway, since Severus reign, the military is really germanic/celts inspired huh?

    • @huguesdiceva
      @huguesdiceva 4 года назад +1

      @@theodora4218 I would say that since the Royal period, Rome (as most entities throughout History) was influenced militarily by its neighbouring cultures.
      The Middle Imperial period (190s-280s aka the Severan dynasty and the Crisis of the Third Century) is marked by Germanic influence on equipment (and it goes both ways as denoted by Thorsberg findings e.g.) as well as Persian/Eastern influence (also with reciprocity such as seen in Dura Europos...).
      Middle Imperial Roman equipment is the highest point in terms of quality and protection in Ancient History (enclosed helmets, extra heavy protection on loricae, etc...).

    • @theodora4218
      @theodora4218 4 года назад +1

      @@huguesdiceva what's your opinion on that millitary culture change? is that good for the millitary or the empire itself?

  • @raysanele4057
    @raysanele4057 4 года назад +59

    Payback was their defeat at Naissus 17 years later 50.000 goths slaughtered by emperor Galloenus.

    • @ArabianRazumZar
      @ArabianRazumZar 4 года назад +3

      It didn’t help them

    • @leeboy26
      @leeboy26 4 года назад +6

      A number pulled out of Zosimus's ass 250 years after it happened.

    • @Cteabis
      @Cteabis 4 года назад +3

      You clearly meant to write Gallienus but accidentally clicked on the o instead of the i, we’ve all done it.
      Just letting you know before some person swears at you and acts like you’re an idiot just because you miss clicked.

    • @LouisKing995
      @LouisKing995 4 года назад +2

      Lee You can basically say that about any ancient battle at any time in any part of the world and between any two forces. Don’t cry.

    • @NECHOII
      @NECHOII 4 года назад +1

      It was Roman Emperor Claudius II that won the decisive battle of Naissus !

  • @stephenellis4777
    @stephenellis4777 4 года назад +22

    Emperor Decius apparently didn't study the Battle of Cannae...….

    • @piotrgrzelak2613
      @piotrgrzelak2613 4 года назад +2

      Migratory goths seemed too "primitive" to him to attempt that

    • @AngryHistorian87
      @AngryHistorian87 4 года назад +2

      @@piotrgrzelak2613 those "primitives" ended up kicking Decius' ass!!!

    • @darkskullanimehub1631
      @darkskullanimehub1631 3 года назад +1

      He underestimated the Goths, As they were not barbaric in nature and were disciplined warriors.

  • @samukcovisk
    @samukcovisk 4 года назад +24

    Even after two thousand eyers later still hurts to see the empire this way :(

  • @CollinBuckman
    @CollinBuckman 4 года назад +24

    Cniva was almost always two steps ahead of the Romans in his planning. Makes me wonder how he was so familiar with their tactics (and the leadership style of the Emperor)

    • @AngryHistorian87
      @AngryHistorian87 4 года назад +5

      It could be Cniva receiving intel from a Roman insider (Gallus?). There’s a theory that the defeat of Abritus was due to treachery. That and Cniva had some Roman deserters in his army (as mentioned in the video), which may have allowed him to get insight into Roman tactics.

    • @jrgennielsen9465
      @jrgennielsen9465 2 года назад +3

      Cniva has maybe been a member of the roman army earlier or worked for them as a mercenary.

    • @ThomasBarth-gr1sz
      @ThomasBarth-gr1sz Год назад +6

      it's absolutely incorrect to view the Goths and other tribes enemy to Rome as mere mindless "barbarians" seeking loot. In Abrittus, it seems very clear the Goths employed an inverted crescent formation as their strategy. The Roman sources, of course, try to minimize how their army was tactically outplayed by claiming it got stuck in the terrain while chasing down fleeing enemies.

    • @bordaz1
      @bordaz1 5 месяцев назад

      @@ThomasBarth-gr1szinteresting take! Cniva may have gotten his comeuppance with Valerian, but he could’ve been a competent emperor himself had he been able to march into Italia after Abrittus.

  • @22vx
    @22vx 4 года назад +45

    First-rate production, guys! Thanks!

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 года назад +15

    The Goths probably reached bronze age looting Roman equipment.

    • @Prigozhyn227
      @Prigozhyn227 4 года назад +1

      Napoleon I Bonaparte : haha nice one 😂

  • @baronbarbaron
    @baronbarbaron 3 года назад +12

    I live on the territory of the former Abritus, now called the town of Razgrad. There is a legend according to which Trajan Decius carried a treasure, the treasure hunters are still looking for it :)

  • @zuboy4272
    @zuboy4272 4 года назад +43

    Me : This Video Sucks
    K&G : *Throws Knife*
    Me : *Shatters*

  • @miv8789
    @miv8789 4 года назад +5

    ABRITVS ( Razgrad ) My home town 👏👏💪💪👍👍😁😁🥰🥰

    • @miv8789
      @miv8789 4 года назад +1

      @@DimitarFCBM Капанците сме номер 1

  • @boomerix
    @boomerix 4 года назад +6

    4:00 unlike Jeffrey Epstein, who didn't

  • @todrkdck9805
    @todrkdck9805 4 года назад +22

    All these spectacular events of history makes me dazzled and awed. Surely these are one of the only things that relieve from my grief and give great consolation.

  • @totalwartimelapses6359
    @totalwartimelapses6359 4 года назад +29

    "The Goths would continue to be a threat to the empire"
    More like end up dismantling most of the western empire on their own

    • @Scigatt
      @Scigatt 4 года назад

      @E Fig That was the Franks, still germanic, but different tribe.

    • @davidmark225
      @davidmark225 3 года назад

      @@Scigatt Goths were not germanic, they were scandinavian.

  • @StoicNatsoc
    @StoicNatsoc 4 года назад +3

    Rome hear me, for we are in crisis! To the north! roman impostors led by Tetricus grow ever stronger. To the east, the usurper queen Zenobia, marches her armies into our lands. this is unacceptable!
    Give us an Emperor from humble beginnings.
    Give us a leader our armies will follow!
    Give us EMPEROR AURELIAN!

  • @Vishnu-rf5wk
    @Vishnu-rf5wk 4 года назад +14

    How will you celebrate reaching 1 million subscribers 😀

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 года назад +17

      Will give myself one day off :-)

    • @leoisabell9797
      @leoisabell9797 4 года назад +2

      Kings and Generals what about a million milliseconds, 11 1/2 days off, just for the sake of 1 million subscribers, perfect 12 day rest, and then everyone can speculate as to whether you died or not!
      Just kidding everyone will get super annoyed but fuck em!

  • @Huyedelomalo
    @Huyedelomalo 4 года назад +2

    Wow who would think the sleepy plains around Razgrad Bulgaria were the scene of great battles :) However, this is the beginning of the end of the old Roman population in Bulgaria and when the Slavic settlers came in the 6th century and the Bulgars in the 7th century, they settled in an empty land

  • @321AlterSchwede
    @321AlterSchwede 4 года назад +4

    All praise to Cniva, a brilliant germanic general.

  • @joseneto5833
    @joseneto5833 4 года назад +7

    3:58 The fastest fall of a emperor ever.

  • @jesseberg3271
    @jesseberg3271 4 года назад +6

    All historians have a bias, some overt, some subtle, some acknowledged, some denied. You can tell christian historians had a hand in the source material here, because of the inclusion of the details about the worship of the Roman gods before the battle. The Romans always prayed and sacrificed before battle, if there was time. However, when talking about a Roman Emperor who persecuted christians and then lost a major battle, the sources saw fit to make a point of discussing it. Presumably, that was meant to show that the Roman gods weren't real, but that the christian God was: nevermind all the battles lost by christian Emperors.
    I suppose it can't be helped, given all the centuries in which European literacy was restricted to members of the church.

    • @UncannyRicardo
      @UncannyRicardo 4 года назад

      Could be, but how far back do our earliest sources of the battle trace? Probably just random details that were preserved. Just like Alexander's superstitious behavior before campaigns was still recorded.

  • @smacpost3
    @smacpost3 4 года назад +5

    Those pesky civil wars really tore a hole in their resources. Thank you, great content.

  • @LookHereMars
    @LookHereMars 4 года назад +3

    Merry Christmas to you and your team the hard work you guys put out is fantastic episode on episode you get better and better I wish you all the best coming into the new year. P. S Nearly at 1 Mill 😉

  • @manufer2
    @manufer2 3 года назад +2

    6:15 "Gordian III died in dubious circumstances".
    Might he be the first Roman emperor dying in battle against an external foe?
    The Sassanid archives say he did.

  • @horrortackleharry
    @horrortackleharry 4 года назад +5

    They had fireworks in Rome?

  • @MortyrSC2
    @MortyrSC2 4 года назад +2

    It's interesting, and often overlooked detail, that yet again the root of instability in the Roman Empire is a local tax-related rebellion. I wonder whether roman problems could have been largely solved by a stronger focus on administrative matters and having in place an efficient state-regulated tax organs. Rampaging privatized tax collectors, corruption, overall lack of long-term economic strategy (just taxing whatever possible whenever needed rather than having a balanced empire-spanning collection with regard for local economies) seem to have gimped the Empire.

  • @jrgennielsen9465
    @jrgennielsen9465 2 года назад +2

    The name Cniva is strange. I never heard a person name in German or Nordic which reminds of it ,maybe except Knud
    But maybe it was a nickname given to him because of his actions in life.
    Cniva could then mean something like knifer or knife
    It also could mean sharp as a knife (clever) ,in newer swedish "knivig"
    Strangly fitting is also the german/dutch/danish/old norse word which in modern danish is "knibe" ,swedish "knipa" and old norse "hnippa"
    This word means Pinch or Squeeze.
    Like Cniva pinched and squeezed the romans in the swamp.

  • @northumbriabushcraft1208
    @northumbriabushcraft1208 3 года назад +1

    In the 3rd century, it's like the Legions raised everyone to the Imperial Purple, but then quickly changed their tune and killed him if the Emperor lost a battle. I wouldn't even want to be Emperor during this time.

  • @philippekogler
    @philippekogler 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Goths originated from Sweden, likely from the island of Gothland

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 года назад +3

    What a troubling battle for the Romans. And what a massacre too. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.

  • @mangomania8263
    @mangomania8263 4 года назад +2

    12:48 I'm sorry? That was clever? Let your invaders in, and they'll be your friends?????????

  • @RamdomView
    @RamdomView 4 года назад +3

    I wonder if future historians will call our time "The Crisis of the 21st Century".
    We are facing an age of chaos, resource warfare, mass civil unrest, economic downturn and plague from climate change.

    • @LiezAllLiez
      @LiezAllLiez 4 года назад +5

      "Crisis of the 21st century" would be more about the plague, called democracy, taking hold of most of the western world, where nothing gets done and everyone is corrupted. Economic downturn? Blame that on socialism. As for the climate change? Really now... theres better conspiracy theories to follow.

    • @roberttucker1527
      @roberttucker1527 4 года назад +3

      @@LiezAllLiez I agree with you

    • @varana
      @varana 4 года назад +2

      Yeah, let's turn to dictators, then. *headdesk
      Because rampant corruption, political instability, intrigue and infighting, violent resistance, and a police state, are sooo much better!
      Sometimes people are more stupid than should be legal.

    • @varana
      @varana 4 года назад

      @tjungblast 00 You jump to conclusions about other people awfully quickly. :)
      Explicitly agreeing with a poster who called democracy "a plague taking hold of the western world", is a bit more than just pointing out flaws. ;)

  • @YeeeeGreg
    @YeeeeGreg 4 года назад +3

    I have been following this channel for years now and it very well might be my favorite RUclips channel. There is one thing that I would to see a bit more of though on this channel and that’s a bit more explanation of the consequences of these epic battles. Once the battles over the video usually ends within the next minute or so and I usually have a lot of questions that go unanswered. Then again, that might be the point cause the way questions will be answered in a follow-up video?? Just wanted to share my thoughts. Keep up the amazing work K&G!!!!

  • @thegloriouspyrocheems2277
    @thegloriouspyrocheems2277 4 года назад +3

    *Goths invade Rome*
    "Oh my God you are such posers - you didn't like the newest album by the Woodhausus"

  • @ThomasBarth-gr1sz
    @ThomasBarth-gr1sz Год назад +1

    Honestly, the view that the Goths and other enemies of Rome were "mindless barbarians" seeking only loot during their confrontations with the empire, as is rather implied in this video, is outdated and incorrect. In this battle, for example, it's clear the Goths employed an "inverted crescent" formation as part of their strategy.This shows that they were tactically aware and actively employed military strategy.
    To think they only opposed and raided the empire for the sake of plunder is simplistic. Raids are a way of undertaking war and a deliberate strategy. It was part of the 'foreign policy' of these peoples to constantly oppose and fight Rome, else they would be enslaved and their lands swallowed by the empire.
    At that time, even if they marched into Italy or Hispania, they would not have been able to set-up a political structure to rule these areas, nor do anything productive with them. So they had to gradually erode the empire, through raids, to stop its encroachment of their lands and reduce Rome's ability to project power that far away.
    For instance, only after the great crisis of the Empire, and the disasters in their own homelands that led to the so-called "Great Migrations", were the Germanic polities able to establish kingdoms in the former roman lands, where they acted as a military elite over the local populations due to the collapse of the organized Roman army and administration.
    And even then, this was only largely possible due to the adoption of Christianity "changing the rules of the game", so to speak, and also the adoption of the local latin languages by these Germanic invaders, something utterly unthinkable for the scenario and the perspective of the these peoples up to the 250's AD.

  • @v44n7
    @v44n7 4 года назад +3

    Cannae 2.0, niva was really a genius. What an amazing video this was

  • @aaronlewis702
    @aaronlewis702 4 года назад +3

    The commander of the garrison correctly guessed the legionnaires' card, and thus they raised him to the imperial purple.

  • @youngzoe7492
    @youngzoe7492 4 года назад +5

    This and the past videos have been of superb quality top top content only a matter of time before you group get to show yours skills on tv

  • @app4902
    @app4902 4 года назад +1

    And then we made this random guy emperor and then we made this guy emperor then this guy made himself emperor then some bum made himself emperor.

  • @BryanRolax
    @BryanRolax 4 года назад +2

    when you are Julius Priscus and you die after trusting Germanic Peoples:
    Publius Quinctillius Varus: First time?