I'm so happy this worked for you! I've got about 80k miles on the wedges. I took them out a few months ago for that video, I didn't see any wear at all. Torklift contacted me and asked if I would do a video on the upper and lower Stable Loads. I do use some of their other products and LOVE THEM! But I had to turn down the Stable Loads. I told them that I wouldn't feel comfortable suggesting their product knowing how well the felling wedges work at a fraction of the price. Of course, the big advantage of the Stable loads is they can be quickly disengaged. The wedges might not work for everyone, but they can save a ton of money for some! Thanks for mentioning my channel!
Heck yeah! Love the feedback and information! So far we are THRILLED with our wedges and, like you said- the price really can't be beat! Torklift is great for so many products, but they definitely come with a hefty price tag, and for those who can't (or don't want to) pay that, it's awesome alternative like this exist!
This sounds great but I've got a question! What yall are calling Felling Wedges are they wedges that you normaly use when cutting trees to put in the chainsaw cut to keep the tree from coming back and pinching your chainsaw?
@@corywadedavis I also used a product by Rubbershox Modular Natural Rubber Rear Bump Stop. And a rear swap bar from upull&pay. The truck handles so much better now.
Just did this same upgrade about two weeks ago based upon Kenny's video. Nice idea with the hose clamps...be interested if you see any drift over time on the narrow end. I filed a flat groove in the wide end and used a U bracket clamp to attach it the overload, and another bracket clamp near the narrow end over the entire leaf pack.
Yeah the hose clamps were Stuart's idea, and they've worked well so far! No signs of drift as of yet, but we'll definitely be keeping an eye on them over the miles to come!
Stabil- loads all the way, I also have a Chev 3500, albeit a bit newer, but they really work, well worth the $$. Its the only suspension mod I've done.
This compromises your upper leaf spring pack by not allowing it to bend gradually over the bottom overload spring. This also gives more stress on your bottom leaf. You are basically transferring stress from upper to lower spring. It also makes the spring harsher ride because you reduce the flexibility. Best and really the only proper way to solve excessive way or rear sag is to add 1 or 2 long leafs below the top leaf spring. Ideally use same thickness spring as what you have in your pack and make it as long as you can so it goes close to the eye lids of the top pack 1 or 1.5 cm short of touching them. Use the proper high grade spring steel not cheap one and your suspension will hold more weight at stock height.
Todd over at RunawayRoses did this wedgie trick too. Myself, I tried overloads, and suspension upgrades to no avail on a single rear wheel pickup on my first Bigfoot. It was never any good. This time I started with a dually and factory overload package then added the ride-rite airbags. Night and day difference.
I made a set of 4 that actually bolts in place at each end of the bottom leafs about 15 years ago. They are 1 inch solid steel. I have used them on several trucks over the years. They work great. I just grease them or white lithium spray them from time to time.
Hmmm...I'm going to speak from experience and say timbrens are the best upgrade along with #4500 wheels and #4080 tires. Over 50k miles. Those wedges won't prevent sway nearly as well as timbrens.
We've done a couple of different things to improve drive-ability, but the thing that made the single largest difference (imo) was having a rear swaybar installed on my truck. It all adds up.
Hi Rebecca. Thanks for the video! Subscribed. I was wondering if you are happy with your tires and are they load range E or F? We just bought an Adventurer 901sb camper for our Ram 3500 truck but the stock tires (load range E) are marginal for the combined weight.
Hi! Thanks so much!! My tires are load rated E. They're Micky Thompson Baja Legend EXP... it's a 10-ply, but the load rating is 3750 per tire, way higher than what's typical. 10/10 recommend.
I have had air bag for many years and do not advise them to anyone. The best mod I have done is similar to yours but decreased the distance between the “upper” overload spring and stop.
Yeah, air bags only do so much.... We've been VERY happy with the felling wedges, and I will be adding a rear sway bar as well here soon. After that, I do not think I will want or need to do anything else to my truck's suspension.
I put the 7500 pound Firestone air bags on mine, and at a 120 PSI, it is stiff as a board. I have the upper and lower stable loads, Billstein shocks and I can say with 100% certainty that those heavy duty air bags are by far the best upgrade.
Not as far as I'm aware.... If your truck doesn't already have a rear sway bar, that could help as well, particularly if you're trying to reduce side-to-side sway....
I'm so happy this worked for you! I've got about 80k miles on the wedges. I took them out a few months ago for that video, I didn't see any wear at all. Torklift contacted me and asked if I would do a video on the upper and lower Stable Loads. I do use some of their other products and LOVE THEM! But I had to turn down the Stable Loads. I told them that I wouldn't feel comfortable suggesting their product knowing how well the felling wedges work at a fraction of the price. Of course, the big advantage of the Stable loads is they can be quickly disengaged. The wedges might not work for everyone, but they can save a ton of money for some! Thanks for mentioning my channel!
Heck yeah! Love the feedback and information! So far we are THRILLED with our wedges and, like you said- the price really can't be beat! Torklift is great for so many products, but they definitely come with a hefty price tag, and for those who can't (or don't want to) pay that, it's awesome alternative like this exist!
This sounds great but I've got a question! What yall are calling Felling Wedges are they wedges that you normaly use when cutting trees to put in the chainsaw cut to keep the tree from coming back and pinching your chainsaw?
@@Tommy-rr7ez Yes.
@justinreedflynn OK thanks buddy I preciate it!
@Kennyofalltrades is the bomb for sharing this info. I was about to throw 1K at my rear suspension and watched his video. $200 later and done.
$200 on just the felling wedge mod or are you talking about more?
@@corywadedavis I also used a product by Rubbershox Modular Natural Rubber Rear Bump Stop. And a rear swap bar from upull&pay. The truck handles so much better now.
Just did this same upgrade about two weeks ago based upon Kenny's video. Nice idea with the hose clamps...be interested if you see any drift over time on the narrow end. I filed a flat groove in the wide end and used a U bracket clamp to attach it the overload, and another bracket clamp near the narrow end over the entire leaf pack.
Yeah the hose clamps were Stuart's idea, and they've worked well so far! No signs of drift as of yet, but we'll definitely be keeping an eye on them over the miles to come!
@@rebeccagypsysol good to know, thx!
Stabil- loads all the way, I also have a Chev 3500, albeit a bit newer, but they really work, well worth the $$. Its the only suspension mod I've done.
Super cool hack!
This compromises your upper leaf spring pack by not allowing it to bend gradually over the bottom overload spring. This also gives more stress on your bottom leaf. You are basically transferring stress from upper to lower spring. It also makes the spring harsher ride because you reduce the flexibility. Best and really the only proper way to solve excessive way or rear sag is to add 1 or 2 long leafs below the top leaf spring. Ideally use same thickness spring as what you have in your pack and make it as long as you can so it goes close to the eye lids of the top pack 1 or 1.5 cm short of touching them. Use the proper high grade spring steel not cheap one and your suspension will hold more weight at stock height.
Todd over at RunawayRoses did this wedgie trick too. Myself, I tried overloads, and suspension upgrades to no avail on a single rear wheel pickup on my first Bigfoot. It was never any good. This time I started with a dually and factory overload package then added the ride-rite airbags. Night and day difference.
I saw that video too, they did good. I saw the original video from Kenny of All Trades before theirs!
I made a set of 4 that actually bolts in place at each end of the bottom leafs about 15 years ago. They are 1 inch solid steel. I have used them on several trucks over the years. They work great. I just grease them or white lithium spray them from time to time.
So many awesome ways to get the job done without breaking the bank!👏🏼
Drilling the wedges and using hose clamps seems way smarter than drilling your leaf springs to me.
This is great!
Thank you!!
@@rebeccagypsysolHey gal thanks and you did a perfect plain clear and simple explanation of what to get and what to do! Thanks and Happy Trails!
Hmmm...I'm going to speak from experience and say timbrens are the best upgrade along with #4500 wheels and #4080 tires. Over 50k miles. Those wedges won't prevent sway nearly as well as timbrens.
We've done a couple of different things to improve drive-ability, but the thing that made the single largest difference (imo) was having a rear swaybar installed on my truck. It all adds up.
Hi Rebecca. Thanks for the video! Subscribed. I was wondering if you are happy with your tires and are they load range E or F? We just bought an Adventurer 901sb camper for our Ram 3500 truck but the stock tires (load range E) are marginal for the combined weight.
Hi! Thanks so much!! My tires are load rated E. They're Micky Thompson Baja Legend EXP... it's a 10-ply, but the load rating is 3750 per tire, way higher than what's typical. 10/10 recommend.
I have had air bag for many years and do not advise them to anyone. The best mod I have done is similar to yours but decreased the distance between the “upper” overload spring and stop.
Yeah, air bags only do so much.... We've been VERY happy with the felling wedges, and I will be adding a rear sway bar as well here soon. After that, I do not think I will want or need to do anything else to my truck's suspension.
I put the 7500 pound Firestone air bags on mine, and at a 120 PSI, it is stiff as a board. I have the upper and lower stable loads, Billstein shocks and I can say with 100% certainty that those heavy duty air bags are by far the best upgrade.
Did you place the felling wedge between leaf springs?
They are resting on the top of the bottom overload springs, sandwiched between those and the bottom-most leaf springs.
Nice. cheaper than bags :)
Exactly!😉
Is there anything like this for a truck with coils?? Just installed air bags on my truck but it has coils instead of leaf springs
Not as far as I'm aware.... If your truck doesn't already have a rear sway bar, that could help as well, particularly if you're trying to reduce side-to-side sway....
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