“A real slog” | Dundee United 0-0 Celtic | Match Reaction

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @aero2507
    @aero2507 День назад +7

    44/48 pts
    Lost 1/6 cl games
    Trophy in the bag. Perspective is needed I think. Hectic winter schedule and a game with injuries and sickness, was always going to be tough
    Lets beat the well and pick up the momentum again

  • @danielhenderson1744
    @danielhenderson1744 День назад +10

    Couldn’t disagree with stevie more tbh. Go and look at the final last week and see how long CCV and trusty were holding onto the ball. It was actually incredible to watch. CCV (who’s is an unbelievable defender) was holding onto the ball for ages in that game. No fan of Welsh or scales tbh, but they were the least of our problems yesterday. The midfield and forward line were horrendous and have been for weeks. Hamish says it’s just one of those days, and he’s right to a certain degree. Problem for me is, we are having far too many of these days! That’s 3 draws in our last 3 games, and not scored in 2 of them. We are far too passive on the ball from the backline to the forwards. Nobody can argue we are sitting in a great position, but it’s a worrying pattern we are seeing recently. We have lost our intensity and players look like they are going through the motions. Our back up players in general aren’t up to it, and when our big players are struggling to, this is what u get. Kyogo McGregor hatate to name a few, have been abysmal for the past month or so.

    • @gigpod5785
      @gigpod5785 День назад

      I agree with you. CCV took an age on it in the final. Trusty also. But in general, on their day, CCV and Trusty are a lot quicker. Dont know what is going on just now though. Midfield is really needing to dominate for more than just 15/20 mins atm.

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад +2

      "3 draws in our last 3 games...."
      This is an example of the sort of pant wetting insanity I am on about.
      3 draws?
      One was a cup final (a cup final we actually won btw!)
      One was a Champions league away game ( a competition that we have a lamentable away record in)
      One was a tricky away game in horrible windy conditions.
      None of those fixtures are "gimmes" and yet here we are, toys out the pram time!

    • @jackjones1249
      @jackjones1249 День назад +2

      Not just in the final, CCV has been like that for weeks, especially in the Brugge game. McGregor also has to take more responsibility of getting the ball forward instead of just laying it off to the centre backs.

    • @danielhenderson1744
      @danielhenderson1744 День назад

      @ so 3 draws in our last 3 games just like a said 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад

      @@danielhenderson1744 It's not what you said, it's the way you said it.

  • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
    @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад +9

    I'd love to know what people were expecting when they saw the team line up, saw the weather and knowing what Jim Godwin's game plan would be.
    Was anyone actually expecting a 10/10 performance under these circumstances?
    The one downside to Celtic having pretty much unbroken domestic dominance for the last 10-12 years (wall to wall doubles & trebles etc....) is that it has produced a subset of Celtic fans, who simply cannot handle even the most minor of setbacks such as a 0-0 draw away to the team fifth in the table.
    It's not even a generational thing. It'd be easy to blame the younger fans, who only really know success, but there are plenty of these types of fans in the 50+ age category also.
    We're the current holders of all three domestic trophies
    We're unbeaten in the league this season
    We're in a promising position to progress in the Champions League
    But we drew 0-0 at Tannadice on a wet & windy December afternoon- MELTDOWN!!
    God help these people if we actually lose a game or two

    • @JonesyJones-s3b
      @JonesyJones-s3b День назад

      mate the guys on the vid were level headed and not going into meltdown wtf
      Did u see all the video?

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад

      @JonesyJones-s3b I wasn't talking about them
      I probably didn't make that clear enough. I'm talking about the general response in comments sections, forums, WhatsApp chats and so on

    • @JonesyJones-s3b
      @JonesyJones-s3b День назад +1

      @@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.OK just wasnt sure havent seen a lot of reaction online

  • @The_Macaroon
    @The_Macaroon День назад +12

    Don't get complacent, this has been coming, not playing well, 2 players costing 20mil don't start. How Valle doesn't start ahead of Taylor is ridiculous. Hatate needs dropped

    • @ckdub1888
      @ckdub1888 День назад +2

      Kyogo needs sat down as well

    • @Darren.ftk.
      @Darren.ftk. День назад

      Agree with you both 100% and the thing is the people we want to replace them haven't been great, just better than the others.

  • @williamhyslop2067
    @williamhyslop2067 День назад +5

    I see the Daily Ranger (Record) saying Rangers back in the race as it’s only 9 points yet they said it was over after 7? Ah well I suppose they’ve got to pander to their readers…we’ve lost 4 league goals …

  • @JohnCl
    @JohnCl День назад +3

    We are in a pass the ball back mode. We need players to be more positive and turn and attack defenders. Palma beat his man twice in his 1st 5 minutes then never tried after that.
    McGregor had much more space in this game but didn’t little with it.

  • @liammckeown9167
    @liammckeown9167 День назад +2

    It looks like ever since Zagrebs tatics SPL clubs have used the same against us & how we have under performed. Tatics - let them have the ball, knowing we will pass the ball back the defence all in about 25 mins of the game itself, keep McGregor, Reo quiet, wingers wont do much & their wingers may have a off day. Never mind when your 2 strikers have scored all in about 10 goals this season. We need to change it up before we may slip up again before this "Awk we are still 9 clear" to maybe after Jan maybe 4-6 clear

  • @angermanagementgreenwhite6369
    @angermanagementgreenwhite6369 День назад +2

    Too many players are way off it atm.
    We could really do with a winter break

  • @PopGoz-j8m
    @PopGoz-j8m День назад +4

    Welsh far too slow. Looked "OK" yesterday because Dundee Utd posed zero attacking threat. His last game against St Mirren, who do have an attacking threat, was such a disaster he should have been sold immediately.

  • @undersoundproductions1915
    @undersoundproductions1915 День назад +3

    Any footage available to see if Kuhn sustained the injury against Rangers?

  • @JohnCl
    @JohnCl День назад +2

    Welsh had an okay game, but I find him so frustrating when he puts his foot on the ball and kills it at every pass, slowing everything down.

  • @undersoundproductions1915
    @undersoundproductions1915 День назад +8

    As i said on tcw. You can't throw tomatoes at guys who have had little game time except for windy days on wet pitches while the usual starters miss all the chances.

  • @TBhoy98
    @TBhoy98 День назад +5

    I actually thought the defense played really really well

    • @chillpill1888
      @chillpill1888 День назад +3

      They didn’t have to do anything tbf

    • @AndyBoy67
      @AndyBoy67 День назад

      That's because Utd had done nothing in attack except for last 10 minutes of game. Ralston and Welsh are pish get rid as soon as possible.

  • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
    @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад +4

    I'm pretty certain Rodgers knows Yang & Palma are not long term Celtic players
    That is why, when Kuhn, Maeda & Forrest were all fit, we almost never saw either of them bar the odd 15-20 mins sub appearances in games that were already won.
    But yesterday both Kuhn & Forrest were out, so we were always going to see at least one of Yang/Palma. This doesn't mean Rodgers rates them or thinks they're good enough.
    Having to turn to Yang/Palma is a symptom of a bigger issue. The summer 2023 transfer business was an absolute shambles and we are still feeling the effects of it. Furthermore we do not produce enough homegrown talent through the club's academy system and so we often end up taking a punt on "project" players like Yang, Kwon, Holm etc....
    Yang isn't good enough but Forrest is out for 6 weeks confirmed and Kuhn may well be out for a game or two, so we're going to be seeing more of Yang heading in to January until such times as we sign a quality winger AND Kuhn/Forrest are back fit. Then and only then, will Yang be moved on and even that is assuming we can find him a club.
    Anyway the point is, we all know Yang isn't the answer but there is absolutely nothing we can do about that until at least January 1st. He's going to feature in our next two games at least, so we have two choices. We can throw a temper tantrum about it or we can accept the situation we find ourselves in and get behind the guy.

  • @danielhenderson1744
    @danielhenderson1744 День назад +5

    Infact go and watch our established CBs in the Zagreb hibs Aberdeen and Brugge games to. Far far to long on the ball at the back over the last 5/6 weeks

  • @Craigiebhoy7
    @Craigiebhoy7 День назад +1

    As you say these games happen and that's how it is. Never can take anything for granted was a tough game tough conditions etc. if Kyogo had slipped that one away it was job done. He didn't and that's that, we learn from this. HH 🍀

  • @gulbones5687
    @gulbones5687 День назад

    Stevie bringing out the big guns with the David Brent quotes

  • @BrianMcDonald-w9i
    @BrianMcDonald-w9i День назад

    Hamish keep up the good and hard work 119 trophies

  • @aidaaan_5083
    @aidaaan_5083 День назад

    It's worrying that when Kuhn is off it/injured, we have absolutely no creativity on the pitch. Hatate hasn't been giving anything positive at all past few games in a goalthreat sense, and other than those two who is going to make chances for the team? Bit worrying imo, we have a severe lack of creativity when playing against a passive, mid/low-block setup.

  • @johndaly1309
    @johndaly1309 22 часа назад

    System needs changed to upset opposition's undoubted recent tactics in the short term til Kuhn etc. return otherwise it's just going to be groundhog day. 'Let the ball do the work' should be the maxim rather than constantly stopping it like Taylor and Welsh and making life so easy for opponents.

  • @paulmelvin8427
    @paulmelvin8427 День назад

    Welsh started and didn’t injure himself,, wow what an achievement

  • @frankgreen1663
    @frankgreen1663 День назад +1

    With forest and khun out for possibly a decent length of time....we could struggle to be creative as maeda isn't very creative on the left

  • @cbhoy5527
    @cbhoy5527 День назад

    We gave Dundee Hibernian a wee Xmas present 💚

  • @frago20
    @frago20 5 часов назад

    Yang is good and he's only 22! I think he'll become a decent player and i'd definitely keep him!

  • @smallies7154
    @smallies7154 День назад

    Bernabhoy, Mikey, Tierney, Jota 🙏

  • @con999t
    @con999t День назад

    Surely we need to look at Kyogo on the wing instead of Palma or Yang?

  • @JosephDabernig
    @JosephDabernig День назад

    To be fair that result has been coming but I would rather it was today rather than last week

  • @jimmyjohnstone5878
    @jimmyjohnstone5878 День назад

    Too many changes with inferior replacements. New players needed in January
    to have a quality bench as this sort of piss poor performance is happening every time we have a few changes from the best 11.

  • @Outblinker
    @Outblinker День назад

    nah sorry, CCV is a class defender Stevie but noooobody takes more touches, is slower or plays more horizontal with the ball from defence.

  • @bradc1003
    @bradc1003 День назад +1

    Surprised you didn’t mention the wind. I heard it was up to 50mph. Impossible to play attractive football in those conditions.

    • @sandersson2813
      @sandersson2813 День назад +1

      It's not 50mph inside a stadium mate.

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад

      @@sandersson2813 It is, if the stadium is outside LOL!

    • @sandersson2813
      @sandersson2813 День назад

      @@Mantis_Toboggan_MD. Do you not understand that the stands provide some protection?
      It might have been 50mph blowing down the Tay, it wasn't 50mph inside a semi sheltered stadium.

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад

      @@sandersson2813 It's Tannadice mate not the San Siro!

    • @sandersson2813
      @sandersson2813 День назад

      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. it's still got a reasonable enough sized stand in regards to what the prevailing wind was.
      I'm sure it was windy inside on the pitch, but you don't understand physics if you think it was 50mph at pitch level.

  • @garra6283
    @garra6283 День назад +1

    I think the team looks tired and the changes didn’t help or make it better we’ve played a lot more games than united and yet still dominate but couldn’t put the ball in the net and most of the teams we play have everybody behind the ball in there own half witch is horrible and horrendously boring to watch it’s not entertaining ☘️🍀

  • @marknugent9851
    @marknugent9851 День назад

    To reference Kevin McAllister's Xmas adventures, Hoopy holiday "Ya filthy animals!" HH

  • @JoeMckenzie85
    @JoeMckenzie85 День назад +1

    Yang, Palma, Welsh..... hopeless

  • @BrianMcDonald-w9i
    @BrianMcDonald-w9i День назад

    119 trophies can't find cover better way of doing it an a cup final

  • @michaelbrennan82
    @michaelbrennan82 День назад +2

    What do you really except if your are playing Yang and Ralston on the same team oh and don’t forget Welsh we need to ship him off somewhere soon

    • @chillpill1888
      @chillpill1888 День назад

      Welsh did do much wrong yesterday

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад +1

      Thought Ralston was ok but I agree with your general point, Yang/Ralston is some drop off from Kuhn/Johnston

    • @michaelbrennan82
      @michaelbrennan82 День назад +1

      @@chillpill1888 I know but he is not consistent enough to play for us

  • @jamesmcnally5838
    @jamesmcnally5838 День назад +1

    Neither Yang nor Palma are half the player Mikey Johnston is

  • @jamieyoung8237
    @jamieyoung8237 День назад +1

    Go Jota again 4 mill Fea Renns no brainer. He dont get a game in France!

  • @jamesmcgrory6383
    @jamesmcgrory6383 День назад +2

    Awful game, not the end of the world but one of the worst 90 mins ever

  • @connorm4274
    @connorm4274 День назад

    Would celtic fans give up the Scottish cup (Treble) for the possibility of a CL quarterfinal ?

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. День назад

      Me personally, yes I would.
      I'd love to see us make some progress in Europe

  • @MiniPops77-p7g
    @MiniPops77-p7g День назад

    Get Jota and KT bck in January! ✊️🍀

  • @The_Macaroon
    @The_Macaroon День назад +2

    Alternative take, Leipzig was a freak result?

    • @smallies7154
      @smallies7154 День назад

      Yeah we caught them cold and rattled into them like Dortmund did against us. They wouldn't stop the short passing from the back even though out entire team were in their half 🤣

  • @seanH1768
    @seanH1768 День назад

    Hamish you’re a stereotypical Scot going beetroot in the sun. I’m only jealous coz got sun whilst I’m freezing

  • @gerrymac5865
    @gerrymac5865 День назад +1

    To many changes to little talent 😢

  • @Hercules_88
    @Hercules_88 День назад

    Kyogo was great first 2 years. 4 seasons now & hes been poor past 2 seasons. He's invisible in Europe. 1 goal v Atletico Madrid but he's mostly anonymous. His decision making/greed is woeful. He's holding us back in this form. & i have a Celtic top & Japan shirt with Kyogo on back but folk need to be realistic. If he was Scottish putting in thjese performances he'd be slated & i was surprised in window folk on here were saying we cant sell Kyogo. I wanted him punted. 2 years he's been average at best. Shankland scored 10+ more in a struggling Hearts side last year.

  • @zammoo1
    @zammoo1 День назад

    Kyogo, Hatate, Calmac.......big disappointment since leipzig game. Stone cold sober and anti drugs. Cant keep blaming others for not playing well.

  • @RichieSharp-v2u
    @RichieSharp-v2u День назад

    Usual suspects need to be moved on simple as. Not at all concerned about a draw at this time of year.

  • @undersoundproductions1915
    @undersoundproductions1915 День назад +4

    Kyogo gets criticized by some drugged up drunk from the scheme and you take it seriously? Seriously. Anyone can make a comment. Even an enemy with an agenda.

    • @gigpod5785
      @gigpod5785 День назад

      Hey I may be drunk but I’m not drugged up!

    • @paulmelvin8427
      @paulmelvin8427 День назад

      Are u also one of these animals from the scheme ? People who come from the “scheme” shouldn’t be allowed to like Celtic eh 😂😂

    • @onapermo
      @onapermo День назад

      wtf are you on about? kyogo HAS been poor all season bleeding into last season.