The New Energy Cards Are Insane

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @ebbandfloatzel
    @ebbandfloatzel 11 дней назад +38

    Quick correction: Cloudstone Curio specifically says whenever a NON ARTIFACT permanent enters the battlefield. Two 0 drop artifacts do not loop.

    • @WhatWouldBojackDo
      @WhatWouldBojackDo 11 дней назад +2

      could work with specific artificers still. or just hullbreaker horror with sol ring and a rock

  • @kylegonewild
    @kylegonewild 11 дней назад +14

    Even at just permanent spells that Nissa is nuts lol and it's cute they're leaning into the Nissa-Chandra relationship in the flavor text.

    • @paulszki
      @paulszki 10 дней назад +1

      I'm glad, green energy got SOME love with Nissa and Peema. After this and MH3 Golgari Energy is slowly becoming a reality in EDH.

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 11 дней назад +16

    worth noting for Pia, it's one or more "to a player" so if you attack each of your opponents in a four person game with a thopter, that's still 6 energy. Not bad at all
    as for the Peema Trailblazer, while you absolutely can use the original's ability to draw five, you can also pay the three energy to make a copy of it with Saheeli, then exhaust the token to make it a 7/7 and draw seven cards for the cost of 9 energy. It seems a whole lot of the cards in this deck become immensely more powerful once you factor in her ability to copy them and make their base stats 5/5

  • @la_creatura_fea_y_bella
    @la_creatura_fea_y_bella 11 дней назад +6

    gavin verhey talked about why there's only 2 commander decks. i like the idea that they only make an amount of commander decks that make sense for the individual set

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 11 дней назад +16

    2:00 correction here, Doubling Season doesn't double the counters put onto you as a player. You are not a permanent, else you'd just lose every game to an Beast Within

    • @blueheartorangeheart3768
      @blueheartorangeheart3768 11 дней назад +6

      Destroy target planeswalker

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 11 дней назад +8

      @@blueheartorangeheart3768 I really should try that sometime then pull out my old book of rules from the 90s that says "you are a planeswalker"

    • @yScribblezHD
      @yScribblezHD 11 дней назад +7

      I'm almost 100% certain the confusion wasn't thinking that the player is a permanent, but rather that doubling season affects all counters and not just those going onto permanents.

  • @alistairetheblu
    @alistairetheblu 11 дней назад +19

    9:00 Not "all your planeswalkers", it's "each kind of counter on target permanent" not "each permanent", and the 2nd option is counters YOU have, like experience counters, energy counters, also (unavoidably) poison counters.

    • @kozad86
      @kozad86 11 дней назад +2

      Rad counters too - this card will have many homes.

    • @tomdeneen4880
      @tomdeneen4880 8 дней назад

      ​@@kozad86 i might jam it in mothman rads

  • @Sylvia-t1f
    @Sylvia-t1f 11 дней назад +11

    Some notes on Saheeli:
    1. Cloudstone Curio specifically doesn't trigger on artifacts. That being said, there's still totally ways to go infinite with her energy gain, it's just a bit more complicated.
    2. Saheeli is also super similar to Mishra, Eminent One. Her hitting any kind of permanent is absolutely wild though. An example of something weird you could do with her is make a copy of a fetchland to ramp yourself.

    • @adaubu3063
      @adaubu3063 11 дней назад +1

      Hullbreaker horror sol ring and a 2 drop mana rock is a solid combo for the deck if anyone need examples. Also none of the cards will be dead in the deck so that's a bonus.

    • @Enja_Near
      @Enja_Near 10 дней назад

      Something something Primal Prayers.

    • @altromonte15
      @altromonte15 5 дней назад

      I think trying to go infinite with saheeli is the wrong move: yeah if you cast infinite artifacts you'll win, that generally happens when you cast infinite artifacts. But saheeli doesn't really help you win there, she enables a potential other wincon. What are we talking about, a 6 cards combo at a minimum?
      Just play for value and you'll get a much more consistent deck, instead of a janky pile of combos that would work better with an actual payoff commander

  • @elioncaplan
    @elioncaplan 10 дней назад +2

    Part of what makes Satya good as a combo deck is that white has energy inputs/outputs that go infinite if you copy them with Satya but are also just useful bodies to have on the battlefield if you haven’t assembled a combo yet. Because of its design and colors, Saheeli requires a much larger investment of resources into dedicated combo pieces if you want to go infinite with it.

  • @duk2112
    @duk2112 11 дней назад +3

    Reprinting Academy Ruins is kinda wild. I love that. Such a great and pricey utility land

  • @OriginalMokthol
    @OriginalMokthol 10 дней назад +2

    This deck looks great and particularly the mana base when compared to older decks. It not far off from what I would see in a budget deck. You're absolutely right that they could throw a Bond land into each deck and it would be fine. Yet one could argue that some people may only end up playing one deck against the other because they're sold as a pair, and then the land wouldn't enter untapped as you need more than 1 opponent. On the other hand, that could also encourage the player to find a group to play against.
    Also Gavin put out a video talking about how this set only has 2 decks, and mentioned that some other sets this year will also only have 2 decks. I'm glad not every set will have 4 decks, because not every set needs 4 decks. Some of the Universe Beyond stuff works well with 4 decks though. I can't imagine trying to cram the 40k IP into 2 decks. If I'm not mistaken, there's still enough in the 40k universe to make another 2 decks at least, focusing on the Orks and Aeldar I think.

    • @PhillipChelemer
      @PhillipChelemer 10 дней назад +1

      Dark Aeldar, Tau and the Mars Mechanicum could also have a list each
      Fingers crossed we revisit 40K, I still think it’s one of the best UB products to date

  • @Sylvia-t1f
    @Sylvia-t1f 11 дней назад +2

    I didn't see it until now, but with high CMC creatures, Aetherflux Conduit makes Nissa free. With a few pieces you could definitely turn that into playing your entire deck for free.
    EDIT: Aetherflux Conduit specifies mana spent. So they definitely wanted to try and avoid some infinites like that.

  • @KomradeKrisis1701
    @KomradeKrisis1701 11 дней назад

    10:41 “I find it fun to accumulate shite” may just be the best description I’ve ever heard for my own deckbuilding preferences 😅😅

  • @minervadetauro7646
    @minervadetauro7646 11 дней назад +1

    The deck looks absolutely sweet. Hoping to see more mechanichally unique cards but very nice decks.
    BTW a small note on Stridehangar Automaton: If you play it with the manufactor in something like MODO/Forge, you should order the triggers correctly so that manufactor resolves first. Otherwise you wouldn't get the token

  • @alchadylan4592
    @alchadylan4592 11 дней назад +2

    Stridehanger is going straight into Rocco Street Chef

  • @dFlyingSnail
    @dFlyingSnail 11 дней назад +3

    Is it really the first time i'll get a commander precon? I really like this deck

  • @jhinds4315
    @jhinds4315 11 дней назад

    that conduit + all will be one is gonna be nuts.

  • @kennethreed8485
    @kennethreed8485 11 дней назад +1

    This adds so much gas to my Shao Jun deck

    • @Ecompster
      @Ecompster 10 дней назад

      The automaton is exciting isn't it?

  • @umcarth
    @umcarth 11 дней назад +7

    Cloudstone doesnt trigger on artifacts. But yeah very breakable

    • @h2muller
      @h2muller 11 дней назад +1

      Breakable with the displacer kitten and two zero mana or mana positive artifacts

  • @McC1928
    @McC1928 9 дней назад

    The Gimbal precon from MoM seems to be a quite nice fit with this set

  • @alexanderhenderson5583
    @alexanderhenderson5583 11 дней назад +62

    The flavor text of Aetherflux Conduit ought to be shown to those people who are still butthurt over the "woke' change-of-name from Kaladesh to Avishkar. WotC didn't erase any history in the game (all the old canon with the name "Kaladesh" is still canon), they didn't errata old cards, and they are even making new cards which refer to Kaladesh. There was an in-story revolution. The name changed. Whoop-de-doo.

    • @TheMostSlyFox
      @TheMostSlyFox 11 дней назад +3

      Empowering and strong!

    • @TheStanishStudios
      @TheStanishStudios 11 дней назад +14

      Wait until they find out about the Czechia, Myanmar, Sri Lanka…

    • @ISEESPACEMONKEYS00
      @ISEESPACEMONKEYS00 11 дней назад +16

      You can’t explain things to people who don’t think for themselves.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 11 дней назад +3

      In...in what way was it "woke" to change the name of a location after a revolution?

    • @generalgrievous5549
      @generalgrievous5549 11 дней назад +18

      ​@@casteanpreswyn7528the out-of-universe explanation is that "Kaladesh" was racially offensive in some languages.
      I actually have a lot of respect for wizards for going about this name change the way they did. Rather than lazily recon it and act like it never happened, they gave an in-universe reason and worked it into the story.

  • @Itachi45481
    @Itachi45481 11 дней назад

    Man both these decks look fun to play around with that and I really want to build a Frog God Energy deck just for laughs with as many dumb types of counters

  • @Theorak
    @Theorak 10 дней назад

    Here is my plan, because I already have an Energy Aggro Deck with Dr. Madison Li and that is more tall than wide board. I will try to force this Saheeli into more of an Energy value engine.
    IN: More ETB energy artifacts, Decoction Module, Myr Battle Sphere and Sharding Sphinx. A lot along those lines to maximize ETBs and Tokens. Looking for ways to copy Saheeli's ability, since it is balanced to once per combat. Fetchlands for those landfall triggers.
    OUT: New Pia goes into Gimbal, Bootleger's Stash - there is no payoff, Saheeli Sublime Artificer does not vibe with that many Creatures but might after build around.
    I would love it more if there was white/blue, less combat/haste to give us an energy control Commander in the future.

  • @rossjamestobitt
    @rossjamestobitt 11 дней назад +5

    Reprint Battlebond lands (in Pre-Cons) you cowards!

  • @xero1134
    @xero1134 11 дней назад

    Correction about the cloudstone curio interaction; curio explicitly affects *Nonartifacts* so you cant used that and artifacts to go infinite. You could with free artificers though

  • @AaronOneal-e7h
    @AaronOneal-e7h 11 дней назад

    Saheeli Sublime Artificer is bonkers in my mono blue infect deck. It makes so many bodies to protect yourself as you cast spells to proliferate and is also useful as Throne of Geth fodder too. Good call Vince.

    • @johnnyborbon5085
      @johnnyborbon5085 11 дней назад

      Format?

    • @AaronOneal-e7h
      @AaronOneal-e7h 11 дней назад

      @johnnyborbon5085 Theoretically Modern but I've never been able to actually use it in practice. There is no Modern scene in my area anymore. It's nothing but Commander as far as the eye can see in every direction.

    • @AaronOneal-e7h
      @AaronOneal-e7h 11 дней назад

      The last time I actually did get to use it half the cards didn't exist so this version is completely hypothetical at best.

    • @johnnyborbon5085
      @johnnyborbon5085 10 дней назад

      ​@AaronOneal-e7h Damn man, that is a shame. That sounds like a really interesting idea!

    • @AaronOneal-e7h
      @AaronOneal-e7h 10 дней назад

      @@johnnyborbon5085 I'd be happy to share the list I've got kicking around if you'd like. I'd love some ideas/thoughts on it.

  • @WCD_Media
    @WCD_Media 11 дней назад +1

    I'm just stoked that we're getting more energy support.

  • @Karnbyutub
    @Karnbyutub 9 дней назад

    Late to the game on this one but as a huuuge Nissa fan, I'd like to remind everybody the Ashaya/Quirion Ranger loop would make infinite energy in this deck and I'm SO EXCITED to give my Oops All Nissas mono-green deck a NEW COMMANDER

  • @flaccidreflex5563
    @flaccidreflex5563 11 дней назад

    Triplicate Titan reprint is cool. I love using it in my Purphoros bronze blooded deck

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 11 дней назад

      I don't hate it being reprinted... but part of me wishes it was Wurmcoil Engine

  • @igorlemes1123
    @igorlemes1123 8 дней назад

    ooook, Nissa monogreen energy looking pretty good!

  • @failfurby
    @failfurby 11 дней назад

    I picked up the MH3 Energy precon and have been having a lot of fun running it. Might have to get this one too. It goes against my base tenant of not owning 2 of the same type of base deck strategy, but this looks like it will play completely differently than the MH3 one.

  • @moxperidot1012
    @moxperidot1012 11 дней назад +1

    Cloudstone Curio doesn't trigger off of artifacts entering, so you can't go off with it and 0-mana artifacts. Just as a not for Saheeli.

  • @TheDarkElder
    @TheDarkElder 11 дней назад

    Might be better than it appeared at first, eh? Gonna wait for the Zombie one though. Perhaps a good match up then.

  • @nathanielb5659
    @nathanielb5659 4 дня назад

    aether flux conduit reminds me a bit of geometric nexus, it does have the downside (compared to geometric nexus) of it only being your spells but the upside of all spells and other ways to gain energy. i play geometric nexus in a maeve insidious singer deck and it's regularly made 70/70+ stat lines, i think that 50 energy is going to seem relatively small when people build around it in commander

  • @Dynoboot
    @Dynoboot 11 дней назад

    Chandra's mom has got it going on

  • @Sindragozer
    @Sindragozer 11 дней назад +2

    50 energy? Don't worry, my yellow bordered cards are good at accelerating energy :D

  • @alextracy9076
    @alextracy9076 11 дней назад +1

    Doubling Season won't double your energy counters, since it doubles counter put "on a *permanent* you control", not on you as a player. So I'd run Parallel Lives instead.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 11 дней назад

      If you have the budget, or you're proxying, having redundancy is good, so run both. Along with the Adrix & Nev in the precon, it gives you the potential of 8x tokens

    • @alextracy9076
      @alextracy9076 11 дней назад

      @@anthonydelfino6171 I get redundancy, but I'd rather not run a 5 mana enchantment when I'm paying that extra mana for an effect I'm not going to be able to really use. Adrix and Nev is a good choice. Honestly, though, I'm not sure how many token doublers *any* deck needs these days; tokens are so easy to make now. The main reason I'm looking at Parallel Lives is that I can clone it, keep it with Esoteric Duplicator, and clone it again and again and again. Adrix and Nev can't do that, as they're legendary.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 10 дней назад

      ​@@alextracy9076 you run multiples because, especially in these colors, you can't tutor for it. It adds more consistency to the deck. what you're talking about right now means you're needing exactly two cards in the deck to see each other when you have no way to tutor out an enchantment.
      but on top of that it's why I'd also say to run sundial of the infinite in addition to esoteric duplicator, and possibly selesnya eulogist. all ways to get around losing that token at the end of turn

    • @alextracy9076
      @alextracy9076 10 дней назад

      @@anthonydelfino6171 I'm not worried about trying overly hard to get the two cards out together, as either one synergizes well with my commander and backup commanders (Saheeli, the Sun's Brilliance). If I get the enchantment, I do run artifact tutors to get the artifact. That's consistent enough for me. Same with my Astral Dragon and Cursed Mirror combo in the deck. Works just fine only tutoring for one side, though now I'll also have Worldly Tutor to get the dragon, or Auton Soldier, or Cybermen Squadron...

  • @joshmacquarrie9552
    @joshmacquarrie9552 11 дней назад

    great vid

  • @LypticDragon1
    @LypticDragon1 11 дней назад +3

    Saheeli radiant creator is a great powerhouse of commander. don't get me wrong, but boy howdy are her decklists going to be bland as all hell.

    • @Ecompster
      @Ecompster 10 дней назад

      I disagree. We will see a variance of focus, etb, death triggers, power on death, attack triggers. The deck can go heavy or light on energy, can or cannot use non artifact creatures. A focus could be on enchantments.

  • @Mazz-Mayhem
    @Mazz-Mayhem 9 дней назад

    Maybe its just me but i personally like satya more, simply because he can be hyper aggro without having to build an energy deck around him. Being able to make copies of any creature he can combo multiple combats so easily.

  • @spark1128
    @spark1128 11 дней назад +1

    I greatly disagree that Satya is worse than Saheeli, in fact I would say Satya is one of my commanders with the strongest synergies. Maybe it’s because my Satya deck isn’t focused on energy at all but in making copies of creatures that are really strong in multiples. I basically shoved in the entire Boros energy package from modern, Serrah ascendant, Enduring curiosity and curiosity crafter and initiative. I think having the option of keeping the token is really strong.

  • @mbarker_lng
    @mbarker_lng 11 дней назад

    "Draw cards equal to the highest power (or toughness)" seems like one of the most low-key yet completely busted mechanics in the game. I don't think I've ever lost a game where I've resolved that targeting some big (usually green) creature. Its like "Well I just drew 9 cards off Terastadon. Sucks to be you."

  • @drake11011
    @drake11011 10 дней назад

    So with Aetheric amplifyer giving the energy player a few poison counters gets out of hand really fast.

  • @Magicannon_
    @Magicannon_ 11 дней назад

    Got to be a bit careful with the Amplifier I believe. It either doubles counters on you the player or on one permanent. Still good for superfriends, but you are insta-ulting one walker instead of all of them for 4 mana. Also very interesting that it doesn't give you a choice on which counters to double, so if the energy player gets poisoned they may risk losing to poison counters by activating this.

  • @jakenhsman
    @jakenhsman 11 дней назад

    Lord help me but the precons look fun again. Probably picking up both of them, i have so many of them already 😢

  • @V1C10US
    @V1C10US 9 дней назад

    Looks good, but I'm sure this set's decks will be available at clearance prices by spring or early summer.

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  9 дней назад

      Can you explain why you think this?

    • @V1C10US
      @V1C10US 9 дней назад

      @@PleasantKenobi The general attitude I'm seeing from MTG communities on Aetherdrift. Much like we had with MKM and OTJ last year.

  • @MrFutureDirector
    @MrFutureDirector 10 дней назад

    I stopped playing druid of purification because my playgroup decided that every time I play it they're all going to just choose what I choose, so only one thing gets destroyed, and destroying 1 thing for 4 mana isn't good enough. Card should have said the caster chooses last.

  • @lebreadbox
    @lebreadbox 11 дней назад

    I specifically had an argument with a dude online about bootleggers stash when it came out. Dude bought like 20 copies and was convinced it was going to keep climbing. I said it would end up being a 2$ almost bulk rare. I wonder how he's doing.

  • @damianbennett1214
    @damianbennett1214 9 дней назад

    new energy cards are wild and broken sure, but that omnitool artifact at 7:45 is one of the real reasons magic is cracked. like, why are 2 mana or less artifacts basically always better than those that cost 4 or more. and people talk about how broken tutor effects are, except it feels like every other white card searches or scrys for something that costs 2 or less or makes those spells free to cast or equip for nothing. contemporary magic decks feel like they might do up to about 4 things, regardless of colour combination or set. im also bored of sitting at a table whilst people cycle through their deck to play cards from there or exile usually for free instead of their hand. it genuinely feels like im instead playing pokemon or yugioh sometimes. plus 1 counters are dull af but at least they're on cards actually in play being used.

  • @quantum_beeb
    @quantum_beeb 9 дней назад

    Any thing that say tap and pay 50 energy should win the game.

  • @disbarredg0
    @disbarredg0 9 дней назад

    I really like the commander decks for Aetherdrift. Where the main set is way too gimmicky for my taste, the commander decks both read like love letters to their respective planes of Avishkar/Kaladesh and Amonkhet.

  • @Arvensa
    @Arvensa 8 дней назад

    If you hit three different players with a Thopter each, Pia gives you six energy.

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 9 дней назад

    Edit 2.0 about the edit below. No, it does not create infinite loops or stuff like that. LUCKILY.
    EDIT: 4:30 + 8:30 = " _If you have energy >= maximum mana value in your hand / deck -> then cast EVERYTHING FOR FREE_ ".
    BROKEN
    IN A PRECON
    ( a _single_ one, not "across many" )
    This is NOT a Precn: this is a fully functional, already tuned, strong explosive deck. It's almost competitive: it's just missing counterspells, some fat-ass staples and Thassa's Oracle26

  • @blubberfish
    @blubberfish 11 дней назад

    why’s the set icon for the commanders different than the racing flag for other aetherdrift cards? i prefer this one since it’s more ambiguous tbh

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky 11 дней назад +5

      They always use different set symbols for the commander decks. The decks aren’t standard legal, so they can’t use the same set symbol as main Aetherdrift cards.

  • @capelech9032
    @capelech9032 11 дней назад

    I'd bet we get another energy deck this year, final fantasy is my guess

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 11 дней назад

      hmmm maybe? I dunno about that.
      I can't see energy really fitting the theme of final fantasy. If I had to guess the mechanics of the set will probably be more around level up and equipment.

  • @kr4zym4mmals12
    @kr4zym4mmals12 10 дней назад

    Whats next a huge painbow energy deck

  • @MstrCorrin
    @MstrCorrin 11 дней назад +1

    Cloudstone curio can't bounce artifacts

  • @ConiferCreates
    @ConiferCreates 11 дней назад

    Not white deck
    Saheeli, Radiant Creator + Obeka, Brute Chronologist = Stonks

  • @ReyaadawnMTG
    @ReyaadawnMTG 8 дней назад

    Energy first happened when I was taking a break from the game so I have no emotional connection to it and I am so mid on these new cards. I can't remember the last time I was less excited for a commander deck...it looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOO boring and just endless durdling

  • @0zzmium
    @0zzmium 11 дней назад

    10:17 🤨

  • @dragomanpl1109
    @dragomanpl1109 10 дней назад +1

    Cowards didn't put 50 energy symbols on a card.

  • @casually_lurking
    @casually_lurking 11 дней назад

    This deck validates my liberal use of nukes, en masse, every deck on the deck. Another Artifact strategy what will s*** 1,000 things by turn two whence tuned. . .

  • @jeremybeard163
    @jeremybeard163 11 дней назад +1

    aetherdrift cards are sweet as hell but man is the set another flavor fail for me

  • @chrisaraiza6761
    @chrisaraiza6761 10 дней назад

    Make saheeli copy artifact lands

  • @corinelliott3596
    @corinelliott3596 7 дней назад

    Except I'll be boycotting because I don't reward Wotc's bad behaviour.

  • @thatepicwizardguy
    @thatepicwizardguy 11 дней назад

    Saheeli is... SUPER boring. powerful good stuff blah blah whatever.

  • @thenotoriouspie
    @thenotoriouspie 6 дней назад

    LMAO God I'm glad I quit this shit game