I just admire how Jimmie tries to be polite and respectful on camera, even if he's pissed as hell he doesn't curse or call people names. That's sportsmanship, everyone is going to get pissed every now and then, but he tries very hard to remain peaceful, unlike many other drivers.
@@shayfive3778 been caught cheating multiple times how many would he have won if they enforced the rules of yesteryear which is a shame now because of big monet sponsorships
This is one of the rare times that I think even Jimmie looking back would say, I was wrong. He clearly came down on Kurt Busch twice and they are racing for the finish. I'm glad it was Craven was was racing Kurt at Darlington. Still the most awesome race I've ever seen.
Mmmm .. Not so much as Jimmy comes out of the turn he is inches from the wall and Kurt is right up against him ... If you're talking about when Jimmy pushed back out.. Wasn't that just for racing room? Did Jimmy need to ride inches from the wall all the way down the straight so Kurt could be happy? ... Watch the entire incident.. especially the last 5 seconds before Jimmy pushes out from the wall.
It's ridiculous how long it takes drivers to grow up in this sport. 19 year old F1 drivers are more mature and have better professionalism than full grown men with kids who are at the peak of their career in Nascar.
@@krispykrackers8826 Some Sundays,it was hard to tell which one to get mad at more, Kyle or Kurt. Now Kurt said that he raced Jimmy Johnson clean. Who is he trying to kid? He was bumping into Jimmy, more than once! I've never been a fan of Kurt Busch. Ever! I'd rather see Kyle Busch winning races, rather than Kurt. Period!
Kurt and Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and Tony Stewart don't take crap from any other driver. They are old school style racers in the mode of Dale Earnhardt and Cale Yarborough. Many fans hate them but many more fans love them.
So If Kyle, Kurt, Jimmie, Jeff, Carl, Tony, Brad, Joey, have on opinion on something they're crying, and whining. But god forbid Dale Jr has an opinion on something he is just stating his opinion. SMH.
Jimmie got loose coming off the turn, he had 2 options: get loose and hit Kurt, or brake and let him by. 5 laps left, if he's going to take that risk he should expect something back. It's racing, and I'm glad Kurt pointed out that THIS is what fans want to see. We want to see hard racing at the end (especially at Pocono). Let's not forget who dumped Kurt last year in this race! And I quote, "the 48 ran straight through the back of us".
Both of these guys are professional, some of the best in the series. They can rub on each other and save it. They would have talked about it and forgot about it. Its the media that keeps building this fued up. If you saw this accident and they didn't have history it would be a racing incident
Now that 2004 cup Kurt Busch announced his retirement today; I’ll never forget this go at it with at the time of 5 time Nascar champion Jimmie Johnson 11 years ago. Johnson/Busch first disagreement on/off track in the regular season of ‘11.
Jimmie is a nice guy and huge talent, no doubt, but I'd really like to know how many championships he'd have without Knaus and one of the best cars in the garage.
Clearly Jimmy came left and hit him. Kurt hit him back...simple. Kurt can be trying for sure...but so can Jimmy with his I'm Jimmy and you can't race me like that!
lol all the rage on youtube comments. I kind of agree with Kurt that its just racing for the fans, but hey, that fighting, is for the fans too in a sense.
"Fight" is clickbait lol. I knew it was when I clicked on it. Jimmie doesn't fight. I respect how calm he is on camera, and how he wants to talk it out. Like he told the reporter, we'll figure it out.
So glad I got to see both of them before NASCAR I saw Kurt and Kyle race out here in Vegas at the Bullring and when I was younger got to see Jimmie out in Elcohome speedway
I wonder if Jimmie moved left after Turn 3 because he caught a snap of oversteer. That was it is understandable he veered to the left. If it was intentional, Kurt had every right on a moral ground to move back to the right afterwards - it doesn't matter Kurt avoided contact out of Turn 3 and Jimmie held his line into Turn 1. The moves count.
Kurt did have a bit of a point when he said "its not like im gonna pull over" But last year... i never expected to say this EVER! But last year Kyle was more the mature brother than Kurt. Theres a reason why Kurt is a one man team this year, and thats exactly where he needs to be.
Jimmie did get into Kurt first on the back stretch coming out of turn 1, maybe he was loose or that was the line he would take. But Kurt was in the right to rough him up in return.
if your talking about the whole rear glass being "illegally" positioned, then yes he was slightly cheating. Drivers and there crews do this all the time. Its just that chad knauss wasn't smart about what he said. But now with the gen 6 cars it is allot more regulated so it is impossible to cheat like that anymore. But believe me there is nothing stock about these stockcar races.
JJ did turn in on him after 2, but maybe it wasn't on purpose - probably just trying to maintain the handle after running through the turn...but I think they handled it well - said their piece and made their point - that's how racing should be - clean, hard and fender bangin'
Crazy. I watched this video and never saw a fight.. at first I was shocked to see Jimmie Johnson and fight in the same sentence, well nothing actually happened.
Their pushing the limitations NASCAR has. I for one wish NASCAR would let the teams do what ever they want with the cars. It's called god damn innovation. That's why Jeff Gordon was soooooooo good in the 90's and early part of the 2000's
It's just like Kurt said. Jimmie came down about a car width, and Kurt gave it back. None of it was really dirty. I thought it was good, hard, fairly clean racing.
I dont think it's really that, I mean if your trying to get passed somebody and your blocking them, especially in the final lap, thats fine, but there was intentional contact. And most of the drivers hate that.
We all remember Jimmie wrecked Kurt the year before here and almost killed Elliott Sadler. Weather it was intentional or not, he didn't hit Kurt square and ended up turning him. And Jimmie moved down into him off of 1. Kurt came back and didn't put him in the wall like I'm sure he would've liked to, because lets face it, he's Kurt Busch. but no he held back and just pinched him up and that would've been the end of it.
I enjoy NASCAR but it is really sad to see drivers fighting it is something we all dislike and it wrecks the NASCAR name I hate to think how many fans NASCAR loses due to fightiing
All the 22-fans and 48-haters that say they hate Jimmie because of his attitude, not being able to driving, him winning, the team cheating, etc are just lieing to themselves. The fact is they hate him, and no matter what he does in the future, they'll always hate him they'll always find reasons to hate him and cheer when they see him in the wall, and laugh when he gets wrecked/injured/killed because they just don't like him and will never let themselves admit anything good about him.
Now now, I'm in the same boat with you. I'm a die hard Gordon fan myself. But Chad Knaus is an amazing crew chief. Ya, he pushes the envelope by trying to make the car go faster. I may get tired of Jimmie winning races, but I respect the hell out of what they did in that five year stretch.
wait a second. I think you need to go back and watch it. Kurt wasn't mad at Jimmy. It was Jimmy who was mad with Kurt. He pulled up beside his car with his hands up in the air and Jimmy went to Kurt's car. You could hear Kurt say(even the guys on tv said it) you came down on me, so I went up on you. It was just hard racing. You can also see the side of Jimmy's car and it looked really clean. So I don't know why Jimmy is crying so much this year. That was just old school racing. Rubbin is racing
I am a Jimmie fan and and generally don't like Kurt Busch. But I sided with Kurt on this one. Kurt is not supposed to move over for Jimmie. He's supposed to do whatever he can to win or get the better spot, period.
I am NOT a Jimmie Johnson fan. I think he is a great driver with exceptional equipment. One of the main reasons he is a 5-time champ is because he always keeps his cool. You rarely see him involved in any bullshit and stuff. Last year was the first time his feathers got ruffled and we have seen the result.
All these years after Jimmy punched Kurt in the nose for insulting Jimmy Spencer's family, Kurt if still whining about "the assault". Note to Kurt Busch: if you insult and say derogatory things about another driver's family, you deserve whatever you get. It is not assault, its payback.
you guys are complaining about a verbal disagreement? those happen in pretty much every sport, and really aren't going to drive away too many fans. fist fights like the bowyer/gordon crew brawl at phoenix might be a different question, but little word fights... nah.
I just admire how Jimmie tries to be polite and respectful on camera, even if he's pissed as hell he doesn't curse or call people names. That's sportsmanship, everyone is going to get pissed every now and then, but he tries very hard to remain peaceful, unlike many other drivers.
Jimmie is too robotic, he’s boring.
@@danielblaise156 not robotic, respectful
So you mean, walking up to Kurt and lying that he never turned I to him, then lying on camera is sportsmanship? Lol, Jimmie is a tool.
@@TWOhype23 when?
@@johnsonjeremiah74 his whole career..
maybe jimmie wasn't aware, but he did come off the corner down into busch first. clear as day.
ftghb oh yeah for sure
Kurt also came back up and hit him again but whatever who ended up a 7 time champ
I would've like to see if Jimmie could win without Knauss and Hendrick motorsports. Kurt has won for every owner he has driven for.
@@shayfive3778 been caught cheating multiple times how many would he have won if they enforced the rules of yesteryear which is a shame now because of big monet sponsorships
@@chickenneck he never won for Phoenix or Furniture Row but those cars weren't capable.
I like how the replay shows Jimmie came down on Kurt at the exact moment Jimmie says he didn't come down lol
It’s maybe something that happened earlier in the race
Jimmie came down but Kurt was coming up. It happens every race.
This is one of the rare times that I think even Jimmie looking back would say, I was wrong. He clearly came down on Kurt Busch twice and they are racing for the finish. I'm glad it was Craven was was racing Kurt at Darlington. Still the most awesome race I've ever seen.
That was a fight🤔
Mmmm .. Not so much as Jimmy comes out of the turn he is inches from the wall and Kurt is right up against him ... If you're talking about when Jimmy pushed back out.. Wasn't that just for racing room? Did Jimmy need to ride inches from the wall all the way down the straight so Kurt could be happy? ... Watch the entire incident.. especially the last 5 seconds before Jimmy pushes out from the wall.
Dude, get real. Jimmie obviously came down on Kurt. EVERYONE can see that, but Jimmie and these bias HMS fans. Get real. @@TenGreenRangers
I miss the old Kurt Busch, but it's good to see that he's matured so much now
Ain't won much by being mature though. Equipment aside
It's ridiculous how long it takes drivers to grow up in this sport. 19 year old F1 drivers are more mature and have better professionalism than full grown men with kids who are at the peak of their career in Nascar.
@@jacobmassey3897 That’s Murica for ya 🥴
Old Kurt and Kyle were annoying as hell, and they were arrogant too. The newer Busch brothers are way more likeable, and more respectful it seems.
@@krispykrackers8826 Some Sundays,it was hard to tell which one to get mad at more, Kyle or Kurt. Now Kurt said that he raced Jimmy Johnson clean. Who is he trying to kid? He was bumping into Jimmy, more than once!
I've never been a fan of Kurt Busch. Ever! I'd rather see Kyle Busch winning races, rather than Kurt. Period!
Kurt and Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick, and Tony Stewart don't take crap from any other driver. They are old school style racers in the mode of Dale Earnhardt and Cale Yarborough. Many fans hate them but many more fans love them.
To compare them To Cale and Dale, maybe, Smoke and Kevin.
So If Kyle, Kurt, Jimmie, Jeff, Carl, Tony, Brad, Joey, have on opinion on something they're crying, and whining. But god forbid Dale Jr has an opinion on something he is just stating his opinion. SMH.
Jimmie fan but say he's whining? I'm so confused.
Still butt hurt?
@@teagansoto7851 Sarcasm
Jimmie got loose coming off the turn, he had 2 options: get loose and hit Kurt, or brake and let him by. 5 laps left, if he's going to take that risk he should expect something back. It's racing, and I'm glad Kurt pointed out that THIS is what fans want to see. We want to see hard racing at the end (especially at Pocono). Let's not forget who dumped Kurt last year in this race! And I quote, "the 48 ran straight through the back of us".
I love Kurt busch. Always been my Favorite driver. Amazing how calm he's now compared to what he was 6 7 years ago.
NASCAR neutered Kurt or put him on lithium. Young Kurt was better. Great career likely ended at this very track. #TrickyTriangle
Both of these guys are professional, some of the best in the series. They can rub on each other and save it. They would have talked about it and forgot about it. Its the media that keeps building this fued up. If you saw this accident and they didn't have history it would be a racing incident
This generation always blaming the media for everything so predictable.its racing i stopped watching cause no personalities
jimmie turned down on him off of 2
Naz Idoura retaliation is a b****
WOOO HOOOO Brad!! :) I was so excited to see him win that I never saw the rest of this!!
Finally, someone gets in an actual confrontation with the 2-time season champ, 3-time 10-race champ!
Jimmie did turn down on Kurt a little bit off the corner, but MAAAN does Kurt melt down over it. No wonder he doesn't have a team now.
God damn I miss Allen Bestwick.
This is called a disagreement not a fight at all waste of time for me.
Now that 2004 cup Kurt Busch announced his retirement today; I’ll never forget this go at it with at the time of 5 time Nascar champion Jimmie Johnson 11 years ago.
Johnson/Busch first disagreement on/off track in the regular season of ‘11.
Crazy to think this racetrack would later end both of their careers
It really did and both in violent wrecks
Jimmie is a nice guy and huge talent, no doubt, but I'd really like to know how many championships he'd have without Knaus and one of the best cars in the garage.
Without the bias calls over the years he'd have atat sheet close to Stewart at best. Maybe 3 Championships with 50 wins at best.
He wound have many of they kept it the regular point system.
You’re joking right? He would still be in top equipment. Rick hired him because he overachieved in Herzog Xfinity cars.
If like to know how many championships Earnhardt would have had if his main competitors, Davey and Alan, hadn't died in their prime. Hmm
@@easyenetwork2023 and Ernie’s wreck
u can see on the replay jimmie's car went to the left kurt's car did not move one way or another
hahaha classic. "he claims i came down on him off of two." video replay shows him coming down on him right as he says it.
Is rare to see Jimmie this pissed about something lol
Yes and even though Jimmie was that upset, he still showed class, something many of the other drivers lack.
Because Jimmie is a robot with huge woolybear eyebrows.
3:44 "More like a lot of yelling" 😂 Even when he's pissed he's calm and soft-spoken
Clearly Jimmy came left and hit him. Kurt hit him back...simple. Kurt can be trying for sure...but so can Jimmy with his I'm Jimmy and you can't race me like that!
Yeah he's such a whiner
Eric Catozzi stfu dont hate cause jimmie is the best
JOHNSON_FAN Well now! Looks like we got a whiner now
Owens Daily Why don't you look at the video and see what he did and shut the fuck up
The Great Gazoo Please explain this idiot Owens Daily how this happened, because he clearly didn't watch the video and he's trolling
lol all the rage on youtube comments. I kind of agree with Kurt that its just racing for the fans, but hey, that fighting, is for the fans too in a sense.
Kurt Busch was at his best before this woke Nascar took over...
Jimmy you pulled down and the video shows it
Exactly I hate it when he wins but he is very classy and sticks up for himself when he needs to very respectable.
Funny how wildly different Kurt and Kyle turned out.
That was a great save by Kurt…
i love how they didnt focus on brads celebration
I guess the word FIGHT means diff things 2 diff ppl.
so crazy thought this was my first time watching this vid...started typing a comment and look down to see a comment i typed 9 years ago lol
I don't watch NASCAR but promise me a crash and a fist fight at the end of each race and I'll buy season tickets
What?
"Fight" is clickbait lol. I knew it was when I clicked on it. Jimmie doesn't fight. I respect how calm he is on camera, and how he wants to talk it out. Like he told the reporter, we'll figure it out.
So glad I got to see both of them before NASCAR I saw Kurt and Kyle race out here in Vegas at the Bullring and when I was younger got to see Jimmie out in Elcohome speedway
I would agree with you if you were talking about 2008-2010. since then he has been competitive.
Not a mark on Johnson’s car. 😂😂😂
I wonder if Jimmie moved left after Turn 3 because he caught a snap of oversteer. That was it is understandable he veered to the left. If it was intentional, Kurt had every right on a moral ground to move back to the right afterwards - it doesn't matter Kurt avoided contact out of Turn 3 and Jimmie held his line into Turn 1. The moves count.
Jimmie, this is how racing is SUPPOSED TO BE! Wow, if you would've raced with Earnhardt Sr., he would've wiped the ground with your ass!
Funny how Johnson can dish it out and not take it
I bet that 22 car is tired after all the drivers that have been in it
Kurt did have a bit of a point when he said "its not like im gonna pull over"
But last year... i never expected to say this EVER! But last year Kyle was more the mature brother than Kurt. Theres a reason why Kurt is a one man team this year, and thats exactly where he needs to be.
Yeah tell him Kurt
Kurt more of a racer then JJ will ever be, if he had his cars he'd win em all
8 years late but Keslowski had the winning race car this race. Kurt was his teammate at the time so you can’t say Kurt didn’t have a winnable car.
What a fight!! Awesome to see the clickbait titles going strong!
2011 - Kurt Busch Pennzoil #22
2013 - Kurt Busch Furniture Row #78
nuff said
jimmie is definatly the better driver
If Kurt never left roush, (at least until he drove for SHR) Jimmie would not have 6.
Pidgeot we will never know
Jimmie is a fuckin cty baby nascars prima donna
@@pidgeot1893 7* And don't forget it
Respect to Jimmie doesn't wreck to win
A disagreement isn't a fight
Everyone is just mad that Jimmie has like what 6 championships.
Legend Famas 7 now
7*
Did you record this with a nokia phone ? It's running at about 12 frames per second.
Jimmie did get into Kurt first on the back stretch coming out of turn 1, maybe he was loose or that was the line he would take. But Kurt was in the right to rough him up in return.
He was out driven into the corner and had no where to go. It was Jimmie who was at fault.
if your talking about the whole rear glass being "illegally" positioned, then yes he was slightly cheating. Drivers and there crews do this all the time. Its just that chad knauss wasn't smart about what he said. But now with the gen 6 cars it is allot more regulated so it is impossible to cheat like that anymore. But believe me there is nothing stock about these stockcar races.
Why are you putting illegally in quotes? His rear glass positioning was absolutely illegal, No if’s, ands, or butts.
0:36 is one reason I pull for Kyle Busch every week. will do anything to win. hung it out there for sure. this was a good win for Kez, too.
JJ did turn in on him after 2, but maybe it wasn't on purpose - probably just trying to maintain the handle after running through the turn...but I think they handled it well - said their piece and made their point - that's how racing should be - clean, hard and fender bangin'
THis is one of the few times that Busch is right. I'm sure after Jimmie watched the video, he felt like an idiot.
COngrats Brad after that horrible wreck on wednesday he recovered and won!!!
Crazy. I watched this video and never saw a fight.. at first I was shocked to see Jimmie Johnson and fight in the same sentence, well nothing actually happened.
Jimmie had a huge fight with Harvick at Chicagoland in 2015. It got physical.
Their pushing the limitations NASCAR has. I for one wish NASCAR would let the teams do what ever they want with the cars. It's called god damn innovation. That's why Jeff Gordon was soooooooo good in the 90's and early part of the 2000's
Busch brothers badass behind the wheel....they don't give a fuck I love it
so who do you guys think would get the final say in this busch johnson feud???
Its ok girls sometimes women get there period at the same time!
These guys arent women. I know....Jimmie Johnson is a real man. Like seriously, all over my face kinda man.
That's not really considered a fight, just a discution
Just looks like a discussion to me. There's no fight, just a fight for position.
It's just like Kurt said. Jimmie came down about a car width, and Kurt gave it back. None of it was really dirty. I thought it was good, hard, fairly clean racing.
I personally loved the johnson vs kurt rivalry
What fight???? Hate titles like this
Jimmie Johnson is just flat out the best driver in NASCAR. You can disagree all you want but the facts don't lie.
I dont think it's really that, I mean if your trying to get passed somebody and your blocking them, especially in the final lap, thats fine, but there was intentional contact. And most of the drivers hate that.
Some serious and Intense competition, but this was more an argument and dispute than an actual fight.
Jus say'n 😐
We all remember Jimmie wrecked Kurt the year before here and almost killed Elliott Sadler. Weather it was intentional or not, he didn't hit Kurt square and ended up turning him. And Jimmie moved down into him off of 1. Kurt came back and didn't put him in the wall like I'm sure he would've liked to, because lets face it, he's Kurt Busch. but no he held back and just pinched him up and that would've been the end of it.
I loved Jimmy Spencer's crying towel about JJ on the race hub on tues.
did any one notice that on the last lap,on the last turn,kyle busch almost spun out
I enjoy NASCAR but it is really sad to see drivers fighting it is something we all dislike and it wrecks the NASCAR name I hate to think how many fans NASCAR loses due to fightiing
Amazingly, JJ has no scuff marks on the left rear of his car where he claims Kurt hit him.
I wouldn't want to be the guy that interviews kurt busch
All the 22-fans and 48-haters that say they hate Jimmie because of his attitude, not being able to driving, him winning, the team cheating, etc are just lieing to themselves. The fact is they hate him, and no matter what he does in the future, they'll always hate him they'll always find reasons to hate him and cheer when they see him in the wall, and laugh when he gets wrecked/injured/killed because they just don't like him and will never let themselves admit anything good about him.
Now now, I'm in the same boat with you. I'm a die hard Gordon fan myself. But Chad Knaus is an amazing crew chief. Ya, he pushes the envelope by trying to make the car go faster. I may get tired of Jimmie winning races, but I respect the hell out of what they did in that five year stretch.
If Kurt Busch raced me like that, he'd be head on into that backstretch wall or out of the ballpark...
wait a second. I think you need to go back and watch it. Kurt wasn't mad at Jimmy. It was Jimmy who was mad with Kurt. He pulled up beside his car with his hands up in the air and Jimmy went to Kurt's car. You could hear Kurt say(even the guys on tv said it) you came down on me, so I went up on you. It was just hard racing. You can also see the side of Jimmy's car and it looked really clean. So I don't know why Jimmy is crying so much this year. That was just old school racing. Rubbin is racing
Jimmie's fault.
All you guys at Nascar can do is argue. Go to maple Grove and see 22,000 horse power at one time. Real fire power.
nope. if he actually had some luck over the past two years he would have at least 5+ wins. Who do you think is better?
I'm sorry you must of never seen a real fight in your life.
That was a fight?🤷♀️
Kurt Busch cursing in the description. Surprise surprise...
The season before nascar started messing up the cars and making racing worse every year
I always forget Kurt got booted from the 2 car to the 22 before he got fired.
The guy recording this made me feel so insecure.
If Kurt Busch wanna throw hands, Jimmie Johnson can throw hands too
Good video racing series cup Kurt Busch family Busch Kyle Busch Busch family Bexdon Busch 20 Pocono raceway 2010
Kyle use to be like this and people STILL hate him for it... I like the busch brothers but that's kinda unfair for kyle
I am a Jimmie fan and and generally don't like Kurt Busch. But I sided with Kurt on this one. Kurt is not supposed to move over for Jimmie. He's supposed to do whatever he can to win or get the better spot, period.
I am NOT a Jimmie Johnson fan. I think he is a great driver with exceptional equipment. One of the main reasons he is a 5-time champ is because he always keeps his cool. You rarely see him involved in any bullshit and stuff. Last year was the first time his feathers got ruffled and we have seen the result.
All these years after Jimmy punched Kurt in the nose for insulting Jimmy Spencer's family, Kurt if still whining about "the assault". Note to Kurt Busch: if you insult and say derogatory things about another driver's family, you deserve whatever you get. It is not assault, its payback.
For Some Reason I Think Jimmie Johnson Sounds Like AntVenom! XD
Where was the post fight?
you guys are complaining about a verbal disagreement? those happen in pretty much every sport, and really aren't going to drive away too many fans. fist fights like the bowyer/gordon crew brawl at phoenix might be a different question, but little word fights... nah.
I lost $50 in a pool because they swapped positions lmfao never did win in that pool I would’ve that day 😭
Kurt is one man that could talk you down off your high horse.... yay that was fun to watch..