"...dark and moody, industrial looking brickwork..." - I like that! Modeling techniques, artistry, and poetry, all in one clip! This is what makes the Humbrol channel so interesting.
I used Humbrol gloss coat on an acrylic model, and applied humbrol enamel wash to the panel lines, when I used humbrol enamel thinners it stripped the wash, the gloss coat and acrylic pain underneath leaving the bare plastic visible. What did I do wrong?
There is also another option for washes, you can make them yourself. Just take some enamel paint of your choice and then add double the amount of enamel thinner and you've got yourself a cheap and just as good enamel wash
Hmm gotta get myself one of these washes: After I paint my tanks they look toy like and the humbrol enamel/oil paint to me hides the details and seems the wash could bring those back. Just one thing I wonder: after I have painted my tank I shall use a spray primer and after that use the wash like in this video: But shall I let the wash dry completly and then use a cotton to dry away the wash I dont want left or with a brush with nothing added? Shouldnt the wash be permament after it has dried completly?
Ive coated my model with humbrol clear and added a wash, when I use the enamel thinners to neaten it up a bit the paint work started to peel off, why is this? Any help with it?
I've found that Humbrol Enamel Thinners is quite a strong product - it can even effect acrylic paints! You might get a better result using plain white spirit - it's what I use to remove excess wash and it's been fine.
We have several Enamel Matt Varnishes, Mattcote and Enamel Varnish Spray. You should paint the model, add gloss varnish, add decals, then either add gloss varnish then the wash or add the wash then a matt varnish.
Mr Humbrol, was the olive drab base colour of the Comet tank applied with Acrylic or Enamel paint before having the Clear Gloss Varnish applied? Can the Clear Gloss Varnish be applied over both acrylic and enamel paints?
I have tried several times to use the black wash for the lines as you do in the video and it never works, can you tell me how many coats of varnish you used please
I used a cotton bud dampened with Revell enamel thinners to remove a black wash applied over an Alclad gloss varnish, and it’s leaving behind a white residue. Any advice on how to remove it?
Hi, if I have painted the plastic model using Humbrol acrylic paints will it be ok to go with the Enamel washes and weather dyes from Humbrol? Or should I seal my acrylic painted parts before applying the Humbrol Enamel washes etc?
Hello! One question: ¿Enamel Thinners don´t remove Gloss Varnish?. My problem is I Can´t find this washes in my country, so my idea is catch black enamel paint and use thinner to liquite it. This way I have home made Wash. Same aplication. ¿Can it work?. Regards!
Can this product (panel line wash) be used with matt colours or is it a must to use panel line wash over gloss coat / gloss colours? Have ordered my first panel line wash so intend to use em shortly...
hi I have a model airbrushed with revell enamel paint. two questions: -can I use the weathering direct on the paint or I have to use a varnish first? -do I have to spray with varnish on top of the weathering?
I'm still learning myself, but from my understanding you don't have to do anything before you weather, but a top clear coat or varnish is useful for protecting your weathering when handling your model. I've smudged and had to redo panel lines without it before. I don't know what an enamel wash with thinner on enamel paint will do. I'd recommend testing on a plastic spoon.
I tried doing a wash using thinned humbrol enmel paint.I had coated the model with about 3 or 4 a bit heavy coats of humbrol clear.When applying the wash most of bit couldn't bite into the panel lines.Did I apply too much clear or did i thin the enamel paint too much?
It depends what look you are going for. We would struggle to recommend, we think it comes down to the individual and how you are going to mix and apply :-)
You say that these Enamel Washes can be applied to a surface that has been painted with Humbrol Acrylic. I'm planning on spraying my whole model with the Humbrol Acrylic Satin Varnish as the final stage, will this be okay? or will it ruin the enamel wash? Thank you.
I know this isn't about washes, but how did you get those decals on the Cromwell to stick like that. I'm currently making a Cromwell myself and my decals are not lying down on the model like that, they're just being pushed up by the raised bumps, can anyone give me tips?
+Munro Edwards Decal Fix sorts this out - put a load of it where the decal will go, apply the decal as normal, then brush Decal Fix over the decal and leave for at least 12 hours. The Decal Fix is very sticky and melts the decals slightly, as a result of which they settle down in to panel lines (as pointed out at 2:55 in this video) and over lumps and bumps.
When I wipe away the excess the black wash just smudges and ruins the paint work even though I’ve applied a gloss varnish first. I’m using a cotton bud with enamel thinner. What am I doing wrong?
Why does the enamel thinners eat right through the gloss coat, paint and primer, a minimal touch of a cotton bud destroys hours of work. What an I doing wrong?
It can but you MUST apply an acrylic clear coat. Future floor wax (has different names in different countries) Or you can use the paint mfg's acrylic gloss coat. Make sure you let it harden for at least 24hrs, preferably 36-48. Also, try not to mix mfg's. Stick to one throught the build. Different mfgs use different formulas and some acrylic gloss coats can "shatter" acrylic paints from another mfg.
This has happened to me as well, even after varnishing the model. I also get an extremely grainy and uneven finish with the wash, even after thoroughly mixing it.
Me too! I am using the exact products and techniques as shown in the video. Acrylic paint first. Then Humbrol Clear Gloss on top before using the washes. Washes seem to work pretty well on one coat of Humbrol Clear Gloss. But the minute you apply just the smallest amount of Humbrol Enamel Thinners, it strips the model back to the base primer layer. I thought that Humbrol Clear Gloss was supposed to protect the acrylics underneath! So very frustrating.
It depends what look you are going for. We would struggle to recommend, we think it comes down to the individual and how you are going to mix and apply :-)
"...dark and moody, industrial looking brickwork..." - I like that! Modeling techniques, artistry, and poetry, all in one clip! This is what makes the Humbrol channel so interesting.
i cant express how helpful these vids are on finding modelling paint etc.
Humbrol products work well... These videos are honest and clear to understand.. Thanks
I used Humbrol gloss coat on an acrylic model, and applied humbrol enamel wash to the panel lines, when I used humbrol enamel thinners it stripped the wash, the gloss coat and acrylic pain underneath leaving the bare plastic visible. What did I do wrong?
There is also another option for washes, you can make them yourself. Just take some enamel paint of your choice and then add double the amount of enamel thinner and you've got yourself a cheap and just as good enamel wash
Hmm gotta get myself one of these washes: After I paint my tanks they look toy like and the humbrol enamel/oil paint to me hides the details and seems the wash could bring those back. Just one thing I wonder: after I have painted my tank I shall use a spray primer and after that use the wash like in this video: But shall I let the wash dry completly and then use a cotton to dry away the wash I dont want left or with a brush with nothing added? Shouldnt the wash be permament after it has dried completly?
Ive coated my model with humbrol clear and added a wash, when I use the enamel thinners to neaten it up a bit the paint work started to peel off, why is this? Any help with it?
I've found that Humbrol Enamel Thinners is quite a strong product - it can even effect acrylic paints! You might get a better result using plain white spirit - it's what I use to remove excess wash and it's been fine.
What humbrol clear? Acrylic l hope! Alway's(!!) use acrylics under your washes....
We have several Enamel Matt Varnishes, Mattcote and Enamel Varnish Spray.
You should paint the model, add gloss varnish, add decals, then either add gloss varnish then the wash or add the wash then a matt varnish.
I like black washes on models with a metallic finish it makes them look better because without the wash they look like toys.
But we actually build toys. : P
Wow, this is great. I had no idea this sort of thing was possible! Great effect.
cant wait to try it..!! nice Video !! wanna see how the different is between the AK Interactive washes and the Humbrol products
I picked some up waiting with bated breath for the next vid any idea when it will be up thanks and keep up the good work
Mr Humbrol, was the olive drab base colour of the Comet tank applied with Acrylic or Enamel paint before having the Clear Gloss Varnish applied?
Can the Clear Gloss Varnish be applied over both acrylic and enamel paints?
Brilliant! Really looking forward to the weathering videos!
I have tried several times to use the black wash for the lines as you do in the video and it never works, can you tell me how many coats of varnish you used please
This depends of the overall finish your looking for. If you want a matt finish then leave it or apply a matt varnish once fully dry.
They work well on AFVs, nice one. I've used acrylic washes as well though, just thinned versions of regular colours with water from the tap.
I used a cotton bud dampened with Revell enamel thinners to remove a black wash applied over an Alclad gloss varnish, and it’s leaving behind a white residue. Any advice on how to remove it?
Can you use cheap white spirit instead of thinners to remove the wash ??
Hi, if I have painted the plastic model using Humbrol acrylic paints will it be ok to go with the Enamel washes and weather dyes from Humbrol? Or should I seal my acrylic painted parts before applying the Humbrol Enamel washes etc?
Very useful! I wish I had a more wide access to those Humbrol products
Hello! One question: ¿Enamel Thinners don´t remove Gloss Varnish?. My problem is I Can´t find this washes in my country, so my idea is catch black enamel paint and use thinner to liquite it. This way I have home made Wash. Same aplication. ¿Can it work?.
Regards!
How long do I need to leave the wash before cleaning up the excess?Also really nice videos very helpful and informative.
Could you make a video on how to use the weathering washes on model locos, wagons etc. please. Cheers
Can this product (panel line wash) be used with matt colours or is it a must to use panel line wash over gloss coat / gloss colours? Have ordered my first panel line wash so intend to use em shortly...
Can be used with either gloss or matt finish no problem
Can i just get some matt cote (with brush) painted on or do i have to use the matt varnish?
can you spray the humbrol gloss varnish directly from the bottle without thinning it?
Brilliant video. Look forward to the next installment. I may have to buy one of those Hornby sheds now. :)
Can you use the Enamel wash over acrylic paint and clear? Or is it only for use over enamel paint? Sorry... bit of a noob question I guess!
I noticed these products are not available through the Hornby America site. Is there a reason for that?
hi I have a model airbrushed with revell enamel paint. two questions:
-can I use the weathering direct on the paint or I have to use a varnish first?
-do I have to spray with varnish on top of the weathering?
I'm still learning myself, but from my understanding you don't have to do anything before you weather, but a top clear coat or varnish is useful for protecting your weathering when handling your model. I've smudged and had to redo panel lines without it before.
I don't know what an enamel wash with thinner on enamel paint will do. I'd recommend testing on a plastic spoon.
GREAT PRODUCT ! THANK YOU HUMBROL ! MARK ANTHONY.
hello can you do me a list of your paint and varnish humbrol for me to buy and on which site you have them buy
Awesome ! More tools for us! Most excellent
Will the acrylic thinner work to clear the wash that's not needed
I tried doing a wash using thinned humbrol enmel paint.I had coated the model with about 3 or 4 a bit heavy coats of humbrol clear.When applying the wash most of bit couldn't bite into the panel lines.Did I apply too much clear or did i thin the enamel paint too much?
hey u where's subtitles as l,m profoundly deaf please ?
can I brush the wash over the (for example) wing, and than wash it away?
Thanks guys these tutorials really help out
It depends what look you are going for. We would struggle to recommend, we think it comes down to the individual and how you are going to mix and apply :-)
The airfix eurofighter typhoon, it's a grey sort of colour, which would you recommend for a panel line wash?
You say that these Enamel Washes can be applied to a surface that has been painted with Humbrol Acrylic. I'm planning on spraying my whole model with the Humbrol Acrylic Satin Varnish as the final stage, will this be okay? or will it ruin the enamel wash? Thank you.
Cool stuff and great tutorial, very helpful. :)
i picked up a load of these last time i was in the shop pretty good stuff
Now I want to go to my hobby shop and buy these kits.
I know this isn't about washes, but how did you get those decals on the Cromwell to stick like that. I'm currently making a Cromwell myself and my decals are not lying down on the model like that, they're just being pushed up by the raised bumps, can anyone give me tips?
+Munro Edwards Decal Fix sorts this out - put a load of it where the decal will go, apply the decal as normal, then brush Decal Fix over the decal and leave for at least 12 hours. The Decal Fix is very sticky and melts the decals slightly, as a result of which they settle down in to panel lines (as pointed out at 2:55 in this video) and over lumps and bumps.
how do you clean the brush after using the wash?
Yes, although test it first. Make sure that the acrylic paint is fully dry before applying Enamel Washes.
can i remove the remains with a Corton and 98% alcohol or doesn't that work. I only know that it does not damage or remove any paint. plz let me know
Yes finally a video!
I love these video's, thanks for all the great tips.... my only complaint is they don't come around fast enough, chop chop ;)
When I wipe away the excess the black wash just smudges and ruins the paint work even though I’ve applied a gloss varnish first. I’m using a cotton bud with enamel thinner. What am I doing wrong?
I just ruined very good metalic paintjob and I also want to know the answer. Maybe varnish didn't cure enough or coat was to thin...
Is this Scalemodelmedic?
Btw great stuff!
should i apply a clear cote afterwards?
Why does the enamel thinners eat right through the gloss coat, paint and primer, a minimal touch of a cotton bud destroys hours of work. What an I doing wrong?
Can these be airbrushed ?
When's the next video out I am sat hear with bated breath :-)
Awesome Video! I love it!
Great job!:)
Do you need to stir it?
Yes we do!
Hi humbrol, i don't think you know how to reply to comments properly. Click on the comment.
Won't enamel thinner take enamel paint of or does clear coat prevent this
the gloss varnish applied over the paint should prevent the paint underneath from being damaged by the enamel thinner
Yes, you will need to shake and stir it before use.
Do they sell these in europe?
Please see our stockist section on the Humbrol website.
It can but you MUST apply an acrylic clear coat. Future floor wax (has different names in different countries) Or you can use the paint mfg's acrylic gloss coat. Make sure you let it harden for at least 24hrs, preferably 36-48. Also, try not to mix mfg's. Stick to one throught the build. Different mfgs use different formulas and some acrylic gloss coats can "shatter" acrylic paints from another mfg.
We woudl start with Dark Green and Grey.
This would depend on the overall effect you wish to achieve, watch our weathering powder videos for more information.
the enamel thinner just wipes away the paint on my model
This has happened to me as well, even after varnishing the model. I also get an extremely grainy and uneven finish with the wash, even after thoroughly mixing it.
is the paint that you used enamel? Enamel thinner will wipe the paint off and the wash
Alway's(!!) use acrylics under your washes....
Me too! I am using the exact products and techniques as shown in the video. Acrylic paint first. Then Humbrol Clear Gloss on top before using the washes. Washes seem to work pretty well on one coat of Humbrol Clear Gloss. But the minute you apply just the smallest amount of Humbrol Enamel Thinners, it strips the model back to the base primer layer. I thought that Humbrol Clear Gloss was supposed to protect the acrylics underneath! So very frustrating.
Yes.
It sounds like you have thinned the paint down too much.
Bob Ross magic
We would advise testing on something else before you try it on your actual model. :-)
To bad none of these washes are actually available.
It depends what look you are going for. We would struggle to recommend, we think it comes down to the individual and how you are going to mix and apply :-)
Can I use enamel gloss on acrylic paint?