Should You Go Bigger with Longmill CNC? (Yes!)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this video I will go over my decision on going from a 3018 to the Scieni 30 x 30 LongMill over a time lapse of my assembling my own. This video is geared to those of you looking at getting a machine or upgrading from a 3018.
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Great video! 👍🏻 I learned a lot about the Longmill from watching. Well done.
Thanks Dave! Glad they helped you out.
Great video, your input is appreciated.
I decided on a onefinity for a lot of the things you went through with your longmill I view as dealbreakers. Just my preference, of course. After dealing with an ender 3 pro, and all the tinkering, add-ons and maintenance it requires, I was fed up with spending hours building and tinkering with a machine, and wanted something that's fairly low maintenance, plenty stiff, accurate, and doesn't break the bank. The onefinity checks all the boxes for me. I agree completely on belts, but dealing with eccentric nuts and v-wheels is also something I no longer wanted to have any part of. I also love that I don't need to run the onefinity from a PC.
I'm glad competition in the hobbyist CNC market is so fierce. It's pushing companies from all ends of the spectrum to do better. I do still think the onefinity is the best of the bunch right now though; no other company provides what onefinity does at a fair price.
I have been useing the longmill for several months now and really like it . It took a little while to get things dialed in but nothing major runs good now very rigid for a hobby cnc router I would recommend the longmill to anyone looking to buy a hobby cnc router.
"No wood." I agree. I live in Arizona and the extreme heat and humidity during the summer get to everything.
I have seen some who have had no issues, but personally my original printrbot which was kept in a climate controlled room and way less stress put on the axis started to warp after a year or two.
Nicely presented. I like how you hit all of the important points that folks should really consider before purchasing a machine. I look forward to seeing what comes off that Longmill!
Thank You!I I am keeping my fingers crossed that my take on the Infinity Mirror works and I can get that finished up by next week.
I really like the unbiased approach you took in explaining where your deciding factors lay and the operating system analogies you used. Even after all of that, sometimes it just comes down to shipping time huh? 😁 Look forward to seeing more great CNC content!
Yeah, I really was leaning hard towards the LongMill, and the lead time is what pushed me to hit that order button. I was wondering if that analogy worked, my kids and wife just thought I was trying to throw that in as it is one of my top go to analogies for a lot of different things. Thank You for watching!
I'm waiting for my LongMill to arrive, so as I kill time waiting and waiting, I appreciate this video and look forward to binging my way through your channel's content!!!
You are going to have fun with your longmill, and Thank You for watching!
Dude I'm right there with you on your cnc machine outlook. I got an x carve to start and it was great, then went on up and got a 1500mm queenbee.
I wanted a dust collection system that set independently of the z axis. I bought another x carve collection system and modified it. I'd recommend it man, it worked GREAT for me! I modified it to a C beam z axis, I can forward pics upon request, I did this to my home cnc and the one we got for at work.
That sounds awesome. I just got my temp dust collection system set up. Need to finish getting my work shop set up and painted before i look at a more permanent solution.
I’ve been looking at the Long Mill. I’ll check this video out later. Thanks!
I really like my LongMill, but make sure to compare it to the others before you pull the trigger.
Thank you
Your Welcome and Thanks for watching!
It looks like you had some good help !!
Yes up until they were bored, lol.
very informative and great points you made.
Thank you!
Good video, thanks.
Looking at the Longmill 30x30 as well
Garret has a lot of training videos out there. So that kind a pushes my decision as well. Took a class On The
Shark unit. It’s nice but also 5k.
Not ready for that yet.
Hope to see some of your projects.
Thank you for watching. Yes Garret does have a lot of great videos, and the LongMill support from the company and the community is great as well.
That screen/keyboard set up is really smart. I’m in a similar place to you but torn between the longmill and the queenbee pro, which is more expensive and has linear rails. Also tempted to get a 3018 to start with to make bonehead mistakes with, it’s a tempting idea!
The 3018 was a good learning experience, its like going to elementary school to learn the basics, instead of jumping right into High School or College. I made so many mistakes on my 3018 that I have not repeated on my Long Mill. I would of been fine with getting the LongMill first, but I felt much better having some experience under my belt.
@@D.E.Hammer Thank you so much for making this video. I've done a lot of research so far and the Longmill is the way to go for me, 30x30.
Im a beginner with cnc and my biggest fear is the software/programs that are used. I don't know anything about that stuff. I think thats why I haven't pulled the trigger yet, because I've seen so many videos on how to get the project started on the computer, the different programs and stuff like that, that its been very confusing for me. Its more of fear than anything because, I'm buying something that I don't know how to use. Sure, I can put it together, but after that....🤷♂️.
So, right now its just a matter of getting things in order before ordering it; finding space for it, building a table, laptop etc.
But can you please tell me or provide a link for that keyboard/monitor? setup that you have there? That was a great idea. 👍
Keep up the great work!!
Thanks so much. 🙂
@@JoeLazzara I completely understand, that is how I felt when I first got into 3d printing, but once you get into and start doing it, it all becomes second nature. Also on that set up i use a raspberry pi 4 so that way I do not have to keep my laptop out there. I do have a vid on that as well if you are interested:
CNCjs Touch Screen with Raspberry Pi - controller for GRBL
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Keyboard
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STAND:
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SCREEN HOLDER:
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@@D.E.Hammer Thank you so much for getting back to me and for those links!! I really do appreciate it.
That monitor and laptop holder thingy is perfect.
Yeah, I'm hoping that once I get the initial feel for the software and how to use it and what everything controls, I won't be so stressed out about it.
Thank you again for your help buddy!!
@@JoeLazzara Your welcome, and do not stress you got this!
Thanks for posting this. All the CNC videos I have seen talk about the excessive dust. What impact would mounting the control board under the table have after initial set up? After several months, what would you change?
Your welcome and 1 thing I would change would be, I would have made my table a little wider. Just to have a place to put tape, bits, glue, paint, ect... off to the side and out of the way. Not a big deal just a quality of life improvement. As for mounting to underside I see it keeping the dust to a minimum on the controller. But dust is like glitter, it goes everywhere. The only draw back would be ease of access, but even then that is dependent on how you mount it on the underside. Make sure you give your self some room to get to connections and cable management. Then you should not have any issues. I do like my controller on the side where I have it, as I can quickly check connections, but I do have to clean it up a lot just to keep the dust build up in check. So it comes down to what you prefer, and being on the larger and taller side myself, easy access more cleaning wins out.
Looks like I'm pretty much going down the same path as you. I got a 3018 Pro because it was just irresistible at just under $150. Of course, the first thing I did was upgrade the spindle for another $30 and started a bit collection which is up to about $50. Printed a drag chain to keep the wires neat and now I'm playing with it learning how to tile, use tabs, and do inlay. I want to do some relief with it too. But as soon as I started playing with the 3018, I got the bug and want a much bigger machine.
In my case, I live in a tiny apartment and have no space for anything bigger. I've just been told I would have the opportunity to move into a larger space where I can have a bigger machine. So after looking at many RUclips videos, I wanted a Onefinity Journeyman X-50. Just don't want to fork over three grand and wait three months. So I thought I would go with Openbuild 1515 but then I saw a guy riding on the LongMill 3030! I wish the X axis was longer but at this size it's much more affordable.
Very informative video. Now I'm going to look at your video on the Raspberry Pi controller.
The cnc bug is real. Once you get going, ideas for what you can do just keep multiplying. Congrats on getting some more space, and enjoy your longmill. Just fyi they are working on a larger model, not sure when it will be available, cost, or if there will be a kit to upgrade. Thanks for watching and glad the video was helpful.
@@D.E.Hammer Thanks for the heads-up on the larger model. I'll wait for that. I know if you buy one model and get an upgrade kit, it ends up costing more in the end.
Great video man! 🙂👍
Thank You Bro!
Good video. I considered the LongMil but opted for the 1f as I'm a Windows guy. I like your videos and I hope you can post as much CNC content that isn't brand-specific.
Thank You, and I will be posting some more videos that are not machine specific in the coming months.
How does being a "windows guy affect your choice?
Just built mine (about 8, 9 hours off and on )and had the same issue the eccentric nuts and v wheels where the hardest part, was it too tight or too loose ... I don t know LOL. great over all machine, and its only 1 hour away so if I need anything its quick drive ! nice vid thanks . We need a good video close up video of the eccentric nuts
Yeah, those darn eccentric nuts were a real head scratcher. All i know is i got them right after messing around with them for awhile. Yes it is a great machine and i am verry happy with what it is able to produce. Thank you for watching.
Here’s a recent video from Sienci re V wheel adjustment.
ruclips.net/video/Z7WLmOk90V4/видео.html
Is it 30x30 in inches or cm. I have a 30x30 cm by sainsmart. Need more cutting space. Good machine but small. I'm thinking together the 48x30 if I inches.
Great video.
Yes that's inches, but that's nominal. So double check with them on actual cutting area. I'm glad you liked the video.
Thank you for sharing your experience, very nice setup and video explanation.
I’ve been thinking how does the shipping and importing this machine from Canada works? could you please share a little more on that. Thanks👍👍👍
So mine shipped via ups. You have to pay a tarrif or duties on it which came out to $75.00 Now you can pay that one of two ways. First is once the item is cleared by customs and crosses the boarder you track the shipment and there is a button that you can press to pay for it. UPS does not always update their system that you paid so print out the confrimation as a back up that you can show the driver. Otherwise you will have to pay at time of delivery so have your credit card ready. I did get all the bell and whistles avaialbe on the 30x30 and it all came in 1 very heavy box, but it was very well packaged and had no damages. I hope this helps, if you have any other questions or missed something particular, let me know.
Thank you very much for your help, keep posting all your cnc work👍👍👍
The feet on my 30x48 I got in September of 22 are metal.
Friend do you calculate the total difference on price? And i think hour cable chain on the x gantry are mounted wrong way 🤔
Thanks for your video story, well put. I've tried making videos and know how hard it is to get to what you created. - I'm pondering getting a CNC, for me space is a major issue - half a garage would be a huge upgrade for me. Cost leads me to the hobby class - looked at CNC's at woodworker shops and they are $2500-$10,000 - ouch, but a Longmill I could manage. I have space for either a 3018 (probably go to a 3040 off the bat or maybe even the new 60x60 but that one is a bit pricey) OR should I just go straight to a 12x30 Longmill. If I get the 3040 Genmistu will it be only useful as a learning tool, or will there be things I'd chose to build on the smaller Genmistu after I get a Longmill? Will it have continued value and use? Building miniature structures is one of the reasons I'm looking at a CNC (model railway hobby), and maybe the 3040 will be big enough. Value your response as someone familiar with both tools now. Not planning on trying to turn a profit, just a hobby to have fun.
First Thank You for watching. I would really think about what is the largest size thing you want to make is, even if it is down the road in your adventure. Lets pretend and say its 6", well then make sure you have a cutting space of 8" (Always best to have some extra room) The 3040 and 6060 Genmistu are more rigid machines than the 3018, so they will be more similar in that regard to a Longmill than the 3018. In regards to my 3018 it is mainly used as a test and trouble shooting machine these days. The only other time I use it is if I need something small cut and I have my Longmill going as well on a long project. So for me my 3018 is still providing use. If it was not for testing and making videos I would most likely have donated it to our local school. The hard thing to answer in your shoes is do I get a 3018 and practice and see if this is something I want to do, then spend more money on upgrades, OR do I go straight to a Longmill and hope that I am set and not loose interest. Its kind of like the stock market in picking stocks and that what you invested gives you the returns you were hopping for (Not monetary in your case, but enjoyment in your hobby). Personally from what info you have given me, I would lean towards the Longmill, I just really like the machine itself and the company. HOWEVER, I would suggest going to the community groups in Facebook or their Website Forums and see what people are saying in terms of putting the machine together and the issues they have, and see if someone else is making the kind of things you are and get their thoughts. Also you will get a feel for what community you feel more at ease in and suites your way of doing things. Both communities have a great group of folks who are willing to help with trouble shooting and bouncing ideas around. I hope I have answered your questions or at least give you more to think on, if there is anything else or if I missed something let me know.
Good video.
Does the Longmill have homing limit switches?
Your table appeared to be open with out support underneath. If so this it will sag and create problems with engraving. You should add a lot of cross support under the table top. If the table sags 0.015” and you are engraving 0.5” letters you will be disappointed with the inconsistency.
They just released homing limit switches for the longmill.
Yes I did miss the adding the cross support during my initial build, but have since added.
I'm also looking to start my own CNC and woodworking business here within the next year and want to start a RUclips channel to show my journey. How did you get started?
At first it just started out because I kept getting asked to how I cut my Edge Lit Acrylic Pieces, and got a little tired of typing out the answer, so I made a video I could just share. I just kept making videos after that on things that people would ask me questions about or common questions I see come up. What is important is that you find your voice and have fun making the videos.
You are lucky you only paid a little over 1000 dollars. I just bought mine today for 2400 Canadian dollars.
How much did shipping cost you in total to get into the US and from the border to your house?
Duties were around $75, im not 100% sure on shipping, but i think it was around $50.
@@D.E.Hammer thank you for replying.. just subbed!
Your welcome, and Thank You!
Any issues with wood chips causing issues with the exposed ACME screws on the Y?
I personally have not had that issue. I do vacuum and blow off my cut area as it is cutting. I am working on a dust/chip collection system to help out in that area.
i have the longmill. cant get it to cut square.
Sorry to hear that, I know when I was mounting the legs to the table I put the screws in the wrong order and mine was off at first, but went back and put them in the correct order and that got rid of my issue of not being square. If you have done that, I would recommend going to their FB page (facebook.com/groups/mill.one) or emailing them, both the community on FB is great at helping diagnose problems and from users there who have contacted them say they have been great at helping with problems.