Why League of Legends sucks for new players
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Sorry Paul
its not a good experience for veterans either.. try to go jungle for example
why are you bullying your friend the man plays wow for christ sake, lol is too intense xD
The last time we tried to be "new player friendly," we made Yuumi.
Noob friendliness: Not even once.
The game is not only bad for new players, but it's also bad by Riot's fault for not matchmaking properly. They have also notoriously not punished players for intentionally ruining games. It's a tragedy.
Not trying to defend Riot or anything but at the point where we at, when the game is almost 15 years old it's pretty much impossible to arrange a somewhat decent match making. You have brand new players, you have brand new players who are top 1000 in another MOBA, you have smurfs, you have smurfs who intentionally soft int to stay on the same elo, you have returning players who haven't played for 10 years, you have returning players who were challenger 5 years ago and on top of that you have people duo queueing, getting offroles, having too high/low mmr, some of them truly belong to this MMR, some got an unlucky/lucky win/lose streak and so on. Add things like champion/meta inflation where people might get higher than they should be, because their champion got overbuffed. Plus a lot of people one/two tricking who perform way worse when they don't get their champion.
The players skill level even within one tier of the rating is too much of a pure chaos for the system to arrange players properly.
I played one ranked game and I got Silver 1 with 0 Lp when I lost and I had to play against gold players even in normal so I did not play ranked ever since anymore. I actually to blaming myself for the mistakes I make, but I just trying to adjust to current game situation like faker does
@@YokiraOkada I mean literally every other competitive game manages to put new players with new players meanwhile League somehow can't?
I'm sorry but that's a bunch of BS. Not saying Riot can make the perfect system where only new players play vs new players and every match feels fair, but they damn well can make a infinitely better system than what we have. The issue is League was written with absolutely zero foresight about the longevity of the game and so any changes they make to league in any regard are challenging because 1 change can randomly cause the shop to bug or causes a bug with matchmaking lobbies dropping, etc. This game is literally held together by duck tape and glue. The age of the game and the playerbase being so large isn't the issue. Riot could damn well make significant improvements to the quality of matchmaking especially for new players. They just don't because League isn't a priority for Riot anymore. Their priority for a few years now has been Valorant + the MMO development + the fighting game development + TFT. They have absolutely zero interest to improve League in-game or out. The client itself has a million bugs that cause issues. The matchmaking lobby system sometimes bugs and you can't click a champ to ban or lock in and you are forced to eat a 5 min wait and -5lp. I don't want to hear people defending Riot. I'm not expecting them to magically fix everything and make the perfect system for everything. The reality is though they don't even care to make improvements or talk about systems they are looking to improve like the matchmaking system and why is that? Because they do not care about League anymore and are not looking to improve the experience, they are looking to maintain it.
@@laurynas9003 I had bad placements 2 years ago and got thrown into the depths of bronze, but then I get put into gold games in ranked and with platinum/emeralds in normals. Idk what even is this matchmaking, I'm shit at the game rito, stop making me vs diamonds in my lane.
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Still blows my mind Riot didn't bother to improve any of the tutorials when Arcane was new.
@@kyleb.5560 The tutorials are just basic-bitch stuff though. 'buy items, push lanes, win game' is all it gives without any other information that is considered fundamental knowledge like jungle objectives, the jungle in general, vision, other stuff that wouldn't be hard to implement at all and could easily raise the skill floor. Yeah match-making is shit (and league toxicity continues to grow by the day) but outdated and effectively-useless tutorials don't help new players either. They're all problems that need to be addressed to provide a good experience for fresh players hitting that download button for the first time.
@@kyleb.5560 they are called normals, not a lot of people "smurfs" on normal games, normals it's the pace to learn how to play and get better, and there is almost no flame there because everyone tries new heroes there, but new players believe that just because they can enter rank games the moment it gets avaible, and well, ranked games is everything you are saying
Ppl just need to watch some in depth beginner’s guides, the first thought that entered my mind when I decided to download league was ‘holy shit this game is a clusterfk I need to watch a guide’ and then proceeded to watch hour long RUclips videos before I even touched normals.
@@ezunino1711based on you saying "heroes" and "there is almost no flame" I guess you play a different game.
@@kyleb.5560 You are beyond delusional if you think the tutorial in League isn't a serious issue. You literally learn nothing from it. Other games have intelligent bot AI that tries to dodge your shots or can try to mimic real player movement. The reason league has low new player retention isn't because of the toxicity. Sure it factors into it but it's not the main reason. New players literally have no guide, no learning tool, no way to practice core fundamentals other than playing live games where they try stuff, it doesn't work out and they don't even understand if it was good or bad or if it was their fault or if it was a teammate's misplay. They know nothing and League isn't a game where things are intuitive in the slightest. I was watching Doublelift coach this CoD youtuber who was on his team for some content creator tournament and she was having a hard time knowing what her role's job is, how her role relates and interacts with the other roles, how each stage of the game should be played out, and million other things and that's not even including ACTUALLY playing the game and knowing what your champ does, what the enemy champs do and how you want to play vs them, how you should position, etc. New players try stuff, die and then are just left to think "well I didn't think I would just get 1 shot, what do I do now?"
- League's tutorial doesn't teach you shit
- the Practice tool is so barebones you can't actually practice vs even half of the champions in League. There's 168 champs in the game and practice tool only has like 20 champs you can set as bots.
- New players are taught nothing during the leveling process to 30
- the Runes system isn't explained, they just throw it at you and say good luck figuring out what is actually good on even 1 of the 168 champs.
- the Item system isn't explained - "when should i buy boots? when should I upgrade them?" "what items should I buy?" (the Riot suggested items half the time are going to troll you)
The game does an absolutely horrible job of onboarding new players. I go look at a game like Apex Legends and that game has a practice mode where it has literally every gun, utility, equipment, gear, etc. everything you can pick up during matches for you to test out. It has practice dummies to practice your snapping and aim. It makes perfect sense, why would you even have a practice mode in a game if you aren't going to allow players to test real scenarios they would encounter during live matches vs real players. In Heroes of the Storm you can test out literally every champ in the game for free before you buy it whereas in League you are and you are limited in refunds so if you dislike more than 3 champs you try well go F yourself now because you only get 3 refunds. Like jesus christ even f'ing Halo Infinite which has been treated like trash by the devs lets you practice vs bots that actually try to strafe and will try to mimic real player gameplay and it lets you practice aiming in a way that can translate to real games. League bots are ancient AI, you can literally stand right on top of them and they will run away. Practice tool is ancient and hasn't been improved since I started playing in 2017. Riot doesn't care.
"i only got a D-" is the perfect ending XD, i only got the lowest grade possible
"I checked that with my face" is also a really good one
you can get E
@@DeusVultBellatorh o w
@@DeusVultBellator I've never seen it. I went 0/11/1 yesterday with 5% kp, and
"The power of new players who haven't learned how to tilt yet."
I envy the youth with such a glorious power at their disposal...
it's not the youth lol it's players who just start a 8 year old child could have more rage then an adult lol
@@siemenjanssens2885 It was a joke, my friend. No need to read that deep into it. :P
@@ruggedlemmings9163 oh haha alright 😂😂😂
I haven’t played league for 9 years. I redownloaded it, went 7-1 in my first game as adc, my support was amazing and I added him and we duo’d.
We won the next 8 games.
Unfortunately I know it will only go downhill from here so I haven’t logged in again. See you in 9 years league
Wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional. Leagues matchmaking reminds me of a casino they design the games to allow you to win every once in a while to hook you then it all goes down hill after that.
they do that always whenever you stop playing matchmaking lets you win so it hook you in again
and after a day or two its show you real league
😂👍
Wow, that is super pessimistic of you...
Reminds me of Season 1 when all the champs were broken, everyone was dogshit, PINGs were over 9000, Server lag was normal, and Summoners Rift just meant ARAM with extra steps. We didnt know we ate ass, we were just having fun doing it. If you didnt have 20 deaths, did you even leave your turrets?
Season 1-3 best time to play imo then they started power creep super sudden every single hero had gap closers and multiple cc
Yes. I remember that. And since our previous experiences were custom warcraft 3 dota maps...the experience still seemed "good" in comparison. It was at least a more open ended game, with no catch up mechanics!
@@mekal177 nah nah i don't want 6 sunfire eve anymore 😭
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Whenever someone new plays league, i always advice them to play the game solo instead of playing with their high level friends. That way the person gets a high chance of playing with other new players instead.
Coz by having high level players on the team, theres a bigger chance of you getting matched with other new players with high level friends as well. At least from my experience.
Your friends also making a new account wont help as the game will detect that this guy has been stomping games and will intentionally try to match you up with players with the same skill matchup. So youll be facing off against lvl 12 smurfs instead of newbies instead.
And 9 out of 10 times, their friends- who should have been teaching them the game, will only give them flat statements like "buy that" or "level that up" and "oh you shouldnt do that" or "its okay" as you die over and over again, while they're celebrating getting over 20 kills and having fun by themselves.
Yeah
I just started playing league like 3 weeks ago but I learned a lot from playing with my friend. It just depends how much passionate you are on learning to play.
I have an emerald friend who always parties with Bronze players. It's an interesting experience when your most experienced player is off role and you're always facing lane opponents several divisions higher. .-.
New players need at least 100 bot games, before queuing up for PvP.
@@ImaskarDono Bot games do nothing but teach you how to exploit bots. I can go 20+/0 and end a game in 11 minutes, but still play like a bronze lol.
Heca mvp for eating all those Lissandra R's
And turret shots.
@@MrJuggalo909lol😅
I recently started playing this game and I'm constantly shocked at how much sheer info you're expected to know. So many champions, abilities, items, runes, mechanics, interactions, macro ideas that are learned from experience to the point where I see a new champion and just get pinged and called an idiot for being hit by an ability I didn't even know existed, or losing to a champion like Shaco and being told that it was "so obvious" that the sadistic fucker was going to appear out of nowhere and pop me like an ADHD teenager who's more excited about the bubble wrap than the 300 gold in the package.
I went to dota after vanguard didnt let me play lol and i feel the same but 4 times more, i had played lol for 4 years and then i go to dota and i get surprised on how i champion can make clones of all his allies, and 4 clones of himself at the same time and can control them separatly or in groups, who also is a champ than can go full crít, or full tank or full lifesteal like aatrox, and it results that that is a normal tier character
this is the real problem of aged mobas. When i start LoL, everyone was either +gold or newbie, nothing in between. Everyone was amateur and happy. You could throw skills to towers and get away with it. But now even in bronze people start swearing for any mistake or off meta pick. There is no place for new players anymore.
@@ncarminei just wait for Supervive
@@Blckk89 what is that?
ahhahahaha yea for lol players, everybody is born with knowledge about everything of the game XD
Had a friend who was not just new to league but new to gaming in general. We kept trying to encourage him but it was like watching someone play piano without hands. He could press one key every 5 seconds. League is hard but the community makes it a lot harder, not at all newb friendly.
yeah. this was me in late 2018.. my now fiance had finally gotten me into the gaming scene back then, and i quickly learned that in LoL bot games were home, they were safe, and kinda fun.. i spent hours upon hours there learning and mostly having fun because at that point in time, the bots were not nearly as intelligent as they are now and your team half the time was also made up of purely bots. there was those times too when you'd have a good player come in and think they're challenger in a game of bots, but ya know sometimes I'd even make a cool friend here or there and it made the whole experience of the League community in general less traumatic :p
jolly good times, heh
Well, why did you have him play a competitive PvP game as his very first videogame? Ease him in with a simple and easy to understand single player game that he can play at his own rhythm, have him try different genres and see what sticks.
@@Lowdian I didnt really, our group of friends played all kinds of games, even non competitive games but for some reason he chose league. I advised him against it, and he started with bots, he was struggling with bots mind you. In his first match with real people, he got flamed so hard that we had to keep explaining to our teamate that it was his first time and what not and the flamer just doubled down on "he shouldnt have come to draft then, play with bots".
@@s0merand0m117 Even in bot games I had people being toxic to me hence I don't play league. I wanted to try a jungler and was just staying near top lane since there's 2 bots top lane and consistently went up to help. The top laner didn't die either but they were being toxic anyway.
Every champion is like a bike you have to learn, so you can enjoy the ride. I taught my 10 year old brother to pick a champion who look cool, and just stick with it. He picked talon, 6 month later he became one trick. Through the process of fighting against other champions, he learned everything there is to the game. League is not hard, all you need is patience. It’s like reading a dictionary for a language you know nothing about. That’s why only gamer who likes difficult games enjoy league. So if you don’t like dark souls, if you only played Elden ring for 30min then gave up, you can’t enjoy League. In conclusion, you have to enjoy learning to enjoy league. And of course, there will be failing during the process of learning.
yeah, i think beginners just should one trick a champion for 50 games and then try other ones. also aram helps finding your champ too. if you one trick a champ then you can learn others faster.
I do the same with my brother! He plays swain and I tahm kench or bard and I never had more fun in league since season 3
As if many people have 6 months and a ton of mentality through losses just to learn the game.
I have also played this game as a Vi jg one trick for 250 games in total with 200 on her, also in 6 months. The problem is I didn't start with the game back when I was a teenager, but as a busy 28-year-old and through my first 50 games I was like at 27% win rate or so. Now though I made it to Silver 2, I still have problems with controlling and my APM, reaction time are low as hell.
Thank god the competitive side of me didn't give up, because I believe 95% of people would have left long ago because they already have easier choices, why would they even choose a hard game to start with. Almost no one, ever, joins a new game to get beaten up while most just wanna relax. Also for the relaxing, I am pretty sure the community toxicity, especially towards new players who are soft-int in their normal games doesn't help at all.
Playing league at 10 years is crazy 💀
Why did you recommend Hecarim, and Jungle for his first time? Support is a better idea, but if you insist on jungle, then Warwick is a great first pick. His W passive made it easy for me to remember to gank, know when to gank, let me get there faster, and the rest of his kit is pretty straightfoward.
Support diff can be crazy though, I would also put a new player in jung, if I explained it well enough. More the likely I’d have them go in a solo lane.
@@stephenh9905 Yea, I just saw the new Vars vid about Supports and it's alot more complicated than it seems. I feel like the same about diffs, can be said about any lane tho. Mid diff, with their roams, Top diff wirh their snowballing and split push power, jung diff, and Bot diff are pretty self explanitory.
That being said, I started the game with jung lol I'd never played any MOBAs, only the DOTA mod on Warcraft 3 the Frozen Throne, which is what League was based on. I pirated it (a CLEAR joke for any authorities reading lol), so I wasn't able to play online and just ran around killing the jungle monsters.... so when I came to League, I knew 0 about how the game worked, and just knew that killing camps was fun 😅 eventually, I received some tips from a friend and started playing ww jung. It kind of forced me to learn about ganks through ww W passive. When I stopped playing ww tho, my ganks went to 0 lol I only started giving a fuck about ganks when I tried learning how to lane.. in Top... and got virtually NO ganks, while missing a billion cs per minute 😅
If I had to guess they maybe just let him be like "hey what do you want to play / try" and just guided him along for that. It is significantly better to see if the player wants to try something more so than just giving them Janna on support and just telling them "yeah just press buttons on me and that's all"..
If the game sucks for new players, just tell those players to not be new. Skill issue? Perchance.
true
Every time that I am a noob in a video game I just stop being a noob and be awesome instead, Works every time, True story.
@SCK-47 Being the best noob ever seen
@@SCK-47 I just started COD again, and someone was like oh you're level 25(average level is like 300-400ish). He then said guess you gotta start somewhere. Guy literally everyone was a noob at a game they play even if they are inherently good no one starts off at the top or as the best.
I started from Wild rift (mobile version of LoL)
Better tutorial, funnier, easier 👍
I remember my first game. I was getting flamed and I told them I was new. So they just flamed me even harder haha
I played Lux support... and got told to go to the kitchen.
Horrible 😢
i played bot games until level 50 xD
@@Llama_charmer nothing wrong with that haha
@@westenev thats fair. Your teammates were just tryna prevent a new lux main to be born
"Yeah I checked that with my face", bro Tymbur self-reflecting in less than 2 seconds.
Give him a few days and he'll squash Forsen like he was nothing.
3:36 PAUL?? accidental name reveal?
I can see him as a Paul guy
What do you mean? he is Ravtheavatar, everyone knows his real name.
Paul the ravatar
Paul is to Rav as Bruce is to Batman
No, it's Rav and always will be.
The reason this game sucks for new players - is a bad tutorial, bad matchmaking and high learning curve
All those would not be half a problem if the community where more newbe friendly, but too much toxicity going unpunished brought the game to the state it is now. The issue is the average ego of LoL players and lack of regulation (could think a better word) from Riot on their gaming environment.
bad tutorial? XD there is one? i didn't notice.. also 23t624376437432 champions with 32463247634 skills, that alone takes forever to memorize, ranges how to dodge who when and shit. counter to other champ etc.. there is a CRAP TON to learn with basically ZERO info.
if they just moved everyone up a rank or two, it would easily create enough room for new players. it’s just it’s insanely hard to get to iron, and you have people that are anywhere from iron-gold mechanics wise sitting in bronze for this or that reason. but instead of fixing matchmaking they just tweak champs and keep breaking them.
exactly. i am old S1-Gold elo player, return after 3 years and can't reach even silver anymore. Yes i might be slower now, but people playing significantly better. When i gold stuck i could carry any bronze game without sweat, but now, i even struggling to win my lane. Or there is no real bronze left and everyone smurfing basically :D
Best thing I tell any friend who's a new player: Look at a combo video. For instance J4 combo which is very simply E then Q then W and if you have/need it R. Ability combo's are king in league and it's alot easier to learn them when you watch a video or you show them instead of just being told to press the buttons
League is not good for any player.
Edit: Seeing the afk support, the sad thing is on league the second you rant about him not shuting his mouth and play, you will be the one getting a timeout/potential ban for "toxicity" instead of the one that is actually toxic and even trolls.
Yeah... 2 days ago I got 2/22 Samira who was 0/10 in 8min (actually impressive). Guess what I got after a day or so? Report feedback? Nah bro... Chat restriction for calling her "dumb" xD
@@kamilosowski3889 i have a perma on one of my accounts i use to play with my friends for saying "you are garbage". from that day on i knew never write anythig and youre safe, no matter waht you do you can go out of a game 0/20 and write nothing youre safe, you can have 20/0 and rant about a trolling guy. you get punished.
now i have many accounts i just troll platin/dia elo on when i see somone is in his promo on my team and when they say anything i report for toxic. works 100% of the time.
Realist comment
As someone who loves to complain, deserved. You know damn well I am right so why snap back? 😂
@@kamilosowski3889 because calling her dumb is the thing that made her be good out of a sudden, right? you won the game after you finally were able to call her dumb, right? cause this is every time what happens... when someone is bad on your team, you flame them and then they all become fakers out of a sudden, right? because how could someone NOT start playing awesome and improve to perfection, when someone is calling them dumb, right? -- also, you don't get a chat restriction for 1 "dumb" -- there have been more obviously
I havent played League in like 9 years but sometimes I think about coming back. Its videos like this that discourage me.
I was just about to comment this haha
dont lol unless you have a 5man to play with, solo is just terrible
one of my first few games i ended up getting matched against level 300 players who proceeded to camp my lane the entire game. i ended up like 1/19
This is the main problem. I have MOBA experience, but this game had so much you have to learn before you can play it that no new player can learn enough to be decent in a reasonable amount of time.
how mean to place him in jungle...btw..
I feel so bad for new players. I had a harder time climbing out of silver/gold then plat because of the amount of smurfs wanting easy wins that I was consistently playing against level 30 master players. It was infuriating. Games were decided on who has more/better smurfs
Everytime someone asks me "You play league of legends a lot, would you recommend playing it" I ALWAYS say Hell NO!
Imma be honest i got stuck where timbur says Ravs name is Paul. Completely in shock for the rest of the video...
This was great and League needs new player matchmaking and maybe a buddy system. I've been playing as a gamer dad for the past year but first time I logged in since 2013 and oh boi was things different.
Also from playing blind pick with a friend who was new to the game, I can tell you that half the people in the lobby are smurfs trying to get out of their new "ranked restriction" punishment.
i think its more than half, because LOL is a very hard game.. they suck bad , but know the game, so they play in low rank so they can win. basically losers who can only win against new or weak players.
To be fair, Roit should have more info on making new players start playing against bots for a while. Then they also should have base requirements to play ranked. lol It would also help if the game analytics noticed that you were decimating teams and auto corrected your ranked placement faster, which would make those ids that make multi accounts have to work harder to stay low. lol
Then make tutorials on how the game is actually played.
they do have requirements to play ranked, you have to have a level 30 account and there's a minimum number of champions necessary. level 30 takes ~150 games.
Getting autofilled in ranked is a sin imagine in a tekken tournament you sometimes get selected a random character ???
I think if you get an autofilled player, the enemy team should have one playing the same role too. So if you have autofill jgl, so does the enemy and such
@@obsessedwithcats at least yeah 👍
@@obsessedwithcats That's actually a good idea. Nothing worse than when one knows their lane so well and mains it, vs someone who's perhaps brand new to it. Leads to immediate game imbalance especially with jungle but really any role it can tip the scales.
@@obsessedwithcatsnah riot want thier game to be mostly luck based and coinflippy
When I started LOL I already had 5 years of experience in another moba and a friend guiding me... and it was HORRIBLE, there's a lot of things and the matchmaking is horrible, I was lvl 80 getting paired with lvl 300..
I can't imagine how it is with new players who have no idea and nobody to guide them-
yall can never understand the feeling just playing the game and got 25 lost streak 1 win and another 10 lost streak with none match i play good cuz my lane got a lvl 20 mastery sweat every game so i can only keep playing in depress or quit the game
Wonderful video, Paul.
5:45 "your whole screen turns a different color" bruh i'm dead
My first game ever was with some premades (but i only knew and talked to one), and one of them ragequitted after i "stole" his blue buff during a leash. It was literally my first interaction with the jungle (in bot games its basically irrelevant), i had no idea what those buffs even mean or how they are earned. I thought the buff would be shared just like assists on a champion takedown. Normal game btw, no ranked.
Just imagine driving instructors kicking you out of the driving school because you forget to use the turn signal at one crossroad at your very first driving lesson.
After that i only played Dominion (yes it was that long ago) and ARAM because people there were more chill.
Can't stay the tryhards on summoners rift. Also can't bothered to read and memorize all those paragraphs of patch notes all the time, i have a life (seems to be a foreign concept for many league players).
His name is Paul confirmed
As a new lol player I can confirm that start is really hard and uncomfortable. Most of the time I am being placed in match where players' skill exceeds mine by a milestone and even though I'm midlaner I almost never get a change to shine with lots of kills or massive damage dealt (Compared to others). If that happens then I'm automatically thrown into lot harder game next time. I just got my rank and placed iron 2 but I don't even know what half of the champions in this game does... try to explain that to my teammates who expect me to know every single champion and item in the game, always land all my skill shots, keep decent farm pace while ganking lanes and who knows what. Half of the players in iron bracket are either smurffs or old veterans that are level +100 but for some reason have not managed to climb out of iron, so the ranked is pretty merciless place for newcomers.
I started playing in season 9 and i have tooken many breaks that have lasted for months yet i don't ever remember struggling that much is this just me im not even that good i feel like im just average
i am silver player in sg coonstantly,riot puutting me in platinum 1 loobby,its like ,me 1 silver rest 9 platinum.These plat as soon see my rank in loadinf screen already shifts blame on me even if i play better.idk y riot matchs me with plat sweats making my day horrible.
So how many of his opponants are actually new to the game?
The backwards ranking system pretty much discourages people from staying on a "failed" account making it so that smurfing is extremely common.
that guys handsome as hell
😂
Try Volibear or Amumu, as they are easier to play and to learn jungle on. I think you'd learn the game and role better on a more tanky champ, and both Volibear and Amumu are beefy bois.
I tried to teach my friend to play when he decided to play a game with me and my duo, and first game he goes like 1/20 gets mad and dc's and then we played a second time a few weeks later and decided to do aram, and we got matched against 2 masters 1 diamond (1 of the masters was formerly challenger). There are 2 issues for new players, bad matchmaking (why are we getting matched against masters when none of us are even close to masters and we got 1 guy with a lvl 1 account?) and also the abundance of smurfs, back when I started playing in season 7, smurfing wasn't as big of an issue and if you had a new account or played with someone with a new account you would get matched against equally inexperienced players, but now, even if you don't get matched against masters players in normals or arams you are getting matched against obvious smurfs and you can't expect a player to want to get their ass whooped for 500 games until they learn how to play better
It isn't. But who told you have to hop into pvp mode instantly after installing the game? League gives access to custom mode, coop vs ai and practice tool and even arams, wchich are more "forgiving" in a way than summoner's rift. Before I started playing drafts I've played at least 30 custom games with my friend in order to understand mechanics, champions, roles and still think that was not enough. Does game explain anything to new player? Obviously not, tutorial is fucking hilarious and this is one thing that Riot has to improve if they want new players not burn out after few first games. If I had nobody to explain game to me and I would have went 2/19 in first game and had teammates who wished me death I would just uninstall this shit
About the AI... it teach you, that they will focus on killing only your character no matter the cost. And the cost is always a dead ai hero and lost game. Do you meet the same pattern in real game? Of course not. Human at least have some instinct of self-preservation. If you see a person going one against two, then this is the result of it working against artificial intelligence.
Matchmaking is so bad i just play in the practice tool and pretend the voices in my head are my teammates, most sane lol player here
In all actuality it sucks for old players as well. In autumn last year I stopped playing SR altogether after a 10-matches loss streak (a week+ worth of my "relaxation" games) after I witnessed ever since September the matchmaking algorithm being utterly butchered. One match I even had a Master player on my team and the opposing one got brutalised nonstop (I played normals exclusively, prior to the summer though the matches were fine). Since them I played ARAM, solely for getting the "free" Hextech chests.
And when the time for Vanguard came about I had about 2 more chests to grind out...well, I decided to call it quits then - even the idea of ARAM was too insufferable for me to take a step into. I won't be returning to LoL, the game is simply no fun - either I sign up to brutally unfair matches or I sign up to not being able to pick my champ, no thank you! Not to mention - since switching to Linux, my PC is less of a monster to deal with, I ain't going back to Windows even if by some miracle Riot would turn LoL into a magical experience as Vanguard is the condition to play.
For those meaning to write "Yet here you are"...I was merely looking for interesting videos in the recommended column - the only LoL videos I watch nowadays are the sub-20 minutes Pink Ward Shaco dailies, out of habit.
i used to watch zwag for 2 years before i started my account , i wasn't the typical new player , but i realized zwag's daily uploads are the too good to be true games for normal players
Ofc. He's a challenger stomping silvers. Styling on them in every way imaginable.
@@ImaskarDono i didn't know that at the beginning, but can't blame him though, making 25k$ a month , some silver players mood is a small price to pay
i am a LVL 50 ADC Jinx Main - i never understand, why RIOT thinks matching me with a Mastery 80 Samira, a Mastery 30 Senna and with Smurf Top/Mid lanes is a good idea...well, you can guess how well i feel when trying to play - especially with RIOT not giving you ACTUAL help in the game, as there are so many unspoken rules, that you only learn by either watching hours of tutorials or having High Lvl Friends who can help you through.
Remember once having a Sion on my team that kept dying, and when we told them to chill out and play safe they were like "but this is the strat!". Like dude wasn't only feeding a Camille but he sucked at farming and they took heartsteel as their second item.
Team games are bad in general specially if you can't outplay alone. League is a game that you can't really outplay alone. It's heavily teambased. Solo carry games are much better like chess, rts, fighting games. FPS team games are different though. There's so much more outplay potential in FPS games than league. Mobas are built for teams and not as solo queue.
I remember when i did my first ranked match and obv i died a lot of times not only that the teammates were extremly toxic i also got reported by all and why? BECAUSE I SHOWER and they dont
I main morgana mid lane and i win a few in a row but its the people in my team that die so much and get picked out. I learned that its better to not die in lane than to defend the turret. Staying alive and farming is the one most important things that people overlook. You can be winning lane ranked or not but your team can throw it. Its the people not the game
I remember being new trying to learn top lane then after a lost get told to play yuumi support so that they could win and would not teach me crap
When Arcane was all the rage and fans of it who'd never played league decided they'd try it out, i'd went to norms and picked malphite into every arcane character and ulted them the entire game. Rock solid muthafuka, welcome to league! XD
"More out of place than Kanye at a bar mitzvah." LMAO, that's the fire line of the vid for sure.
Hello, I’m a bronze player (climbed out of iron I off roled for 2 seasons in ranked and got to iron 4….) and I’ve noticed when I play new champs in unranked I always get matched with someone who has absolute ranked fear, never plays anything but the same champ every game and has way to much experience to be hardstuck bronze and it’s just boring. I can’t learn against these people especially on champs like Zed (I main Darius) and I have to play, for example, versus some Lux player with a huge ego
"worked like a charm"
*enemy is charmed*
the robot is learning dad humor. I literally pissed myself in terror.
I´m playing support because I´m afraid of the other roles even though i would love to play jungle. Never got above Iron 3, when I win a game I lose the next one, so there´s no progress. Love it
But why Hecarim and not Warwick jungle?
I'm still a relatively new player. And yeah, I can confirm it's not a fun experience.
First time i played rank and got matched up against full emerald team. Never touching it again.
what song is this
A new player going jungle first time is not going to have a good time lol much easier to learn support or top than jungle
Best advice is if he likes hecarim (i would have him learn nocturne) is going into practice tool and learn your clear and most games youll be the most fed person on your team.
so grateful cause i’m new but my friend who’s kind of good is teaching me how to play the game. i know how to do support and baron now thanks to him
Why exactly ADC is your favorite lane? Have you ever made video on it?
One of simple solutions: ask bunch of pros or challengers or coaches to do few really basic tutotials and link them into client, or on official web page.
Tutorials like: "as ADC your job is to scale and get powerspikes. you are fragile, so keep distance and never fight in melee range" would be helpful to super new players.
And they should upgrade chapion descriptions: Aatrox is still referenced as auto attacker...
Add some info about what are champions strengths and weaknesses.
Maybe some tips for roles
I dont get why everyone is buying a lvl 30 account and goes straight into rank, like soda.
I mean there is a reason you dont get smite until lvl 9
im teaching my friend how to play league (i too recently started playing like 6 months ago) and oh brother is it hard to teach someone i dont even remember learning all this but my friends definitely taught me, doesnt help that he wants to learn jgl which granted i main but i started off playing support which was just hit something every now and then and then help someone
I know my comment is a little late ,but as a league player ,i can 100% say there are some genres of games that are on par or even harder to start with than league .I started playing Street Fighter 6 when it launched (never played a single fighting game in my life ,outside of some old tekken and MK when i was like 6 ) and trust me it took me like 20 games to be able to pull off the most basic combos or even feel like i am doing anything useful ,and you can imagine how my winrate was in ranked .I'll be it ,fighting game matches are really short .
For Matchmaking the game does not have a system to match with other new players sadly and just sticking to aram is not the key also coop vs ai is not even close to be compared to the real pvp matches but Ty did something old players dont do he never gave up and kept a positive spirit go Ty!
What a revelation
they just need to add a "report smurf" option in low ranked games.
Then check and bad if the player is too good AND its low rank from a long time.
i remember my first game. i was like "im inting? wtf is inting?"
In 2012 when I played lol I managed to hit diamond I tried like 10 years later to come back to the game and it was absolutely disgusting... I am someone who have experience and I was getting absolutely destroyed... man I didn't even had flash because it's on lvl 12 or smth and the enemy team were definitely not beginners... imagine someone who have never played league lol... what an amazing experience it would be. I even watch a lot of league even now so I know every single champion what it does what it builds and I still felt so out of place, everyone is still toxic in this game that did not change the lower the elo the higher toxicity xD
I always used to play Mobile Legends and later Wild Rift on my phone bcuz I had no pc until the last 3-ish years. So I was kinda disappointed when I started playing League because of how annoying and confusing it was. And lets not forget the horrible matchmaking (ML and WR also had bad matchmaking, but not to this degree). Playing with friends was definitely more fun tho but it sucked that I never actually got to play with players that have no idea what's going on but also kinda know what's really going on.
The worst thing about League is not the constant changes, broken champs, etc
It's the community that demands you be good at your champ, but doesn't want to give you the time to learn.
This is not a League of Legends only problem though. It's every single online multiplayer game out there, and especially those where gold income and snowballing is a thing. I remember starting league in 2010, I played bot games far into being level 30 [max rank at that moment] and only much later went into my first pvp match. It went horrible. I was used to carrying games with Janna Tornado's against bots that did not move away from them, not actual brains dodging skillshots.
And like every game that's been out a long time, people improve. Diamond in 2010 is probably silver/gold in 2024.
Paul?
0:41 using flash with mouse is great
i am someone who started playing a week ago) who would like to play jungle and thinks the character that feels best is riven this game is much work. i literally cant play jungle and don't get what characters to play where. I like the idea of mid but i don't know when to roam and all the ranged characters just make it hell for me i feel like i need to practice against bots just to get the idea of the game. // i think i like the game but I'm actually actively avoiding the game
If youre trying to do Jng, you wont really learn much in bot games as there is no competition vs bots in the jng. I do suggest doing draft pick over quickplay so you can ban champs you dont particularly care to see or play against and you actually set your role for it instead of being thrown in a lobby for a free for all for a position.
I just came back to league eariler this year and I totally forgot about your videos! These are a breath of fresh air! GGWP
Idk i came back after 2 years into the game. Took Vel'koz since i like playing him on top. lost the first 2 games only performing rather average. Suddenly got a pentakill in the third because my opponents walked straight into my beam. Then after they respawned i immediatly got another penta kill because the previous one gave me A LOT of gold for a huge power spike, and they came at me one by one... . Suddenly i get a bunch of hate and get called a smurf. I didnt even know wtf a smurf was. Then i got downvoted by everyone in the team, even my own side because they didnt believe i didnt know what a smurf was and riot timed out because of it. So yeah, the toxicity was at an all time high and i'd seen enough league for a while. Haven't logged in for years.
The problem with lol is quite simply that it relies too much on teamwork. You could be the best player in the game if your teammates have bronze player iq you can't win. You play tank? Well you need your adc to participate in team battle (which most likely won't happen because the low iq adc is in the jungle farming), you play adc? Same deal you're gonna get one shot if your tank and support don't help. You get a good teammates as often as a full moon.
"The power of new players who have not learned to tilt yet", damn good one
you know hes not a league player cause he didn't type jungle diff in chat.
The guy is so chill, I respect that. So unfortunate he encountered that Bel Veth, she was super toxic. I remember one time I had to create a new profile to play with my friends on other server, so I had to walk through the beginners' queue. Mark my words: beginners and vs.-bot players are the most enjoyable League community ever. I felt so guilty playing among them after a few hundred hours on my main account, so I picked only supports-enchanters or the like, so I couldn't impact much. My favorite pick was full-heal Moonstone Ezreal, it was the pre-rework Moonstone, so every time I landed a Q, it would do little damage but heal my adc a bit. Another funny thing is to pick Yuumi and let the beginner pilot you, supporting even their bad decisions.
The bottom line is, guys, be nicer to each other, especially with the beginners, they still remember what it's like to play for fun.
Your Master promotion game be like:
Yesterday I had a new player in my game. I only learned they were a new player AFTER the game was already over and I had to do a lil bit of looking at them and their DUO who is most definitely a smurf playing with them.
I felt really bad afterwards because my friend and I should NOT be getting matched up with new players. So I thought they just played bad and fed early and then proceeded to troll and grief the game which is the one thing that frustrates me. When in reality, they literally don't know the game enough to know how to try. I didn't say anything bad, I'm not that type of asshole. I just pinged a lot watching them literally sit around and do nothing.
In the end this is Riot and partly the duo's fault. Not me being an asshole, that's on me. But a new player having this kind of experience. Before our game which was a travesty. Them and their duo had a massive winning streak because the duo was smurfing his brains out. This of course kept pushing their MMR higher and higher. So now even if the person decided to play solo their MMR is going to be wildly inflated.
And the real tragedy in all of this is that these are just 2 people that are friends and wanted to play together. And as it stands right now if that duo played with them on not a smurf account. It still ruins the new player's game experience. The only way for that new player to be able to play with their friend and not have their or other people's game experience ruined, is to just play solo for a long while to try to learn this game the hardest way possible. Just figuring all of the shit out on your own and having to bring up the wiki, watch videos, and talk with moderately knowledgeable friends just to get enough game understanding to just know how to play the game ENOUGH.
They'd probably still feed. But at least they would have enough knowledge to know how to TRY.
Tell him there is a feature to turn on when he spawns screen goes to his champ,that way it might be easier for him
Rav tell ty to have the cam focus him when he respawns. You can fix it from the settings
whats the song at 1:18
Darude - Sandstorm
I would say every game is like that and i love games that have a deep learning curve also get good new players and getting bullied by better players build character.
RAV why no sell CD boots for Zephyr?
Him never hitting W on every engage was tilting me so hard
Yo, that was legit Sion's peak form, 100 ad lvl 1 with just a sword and two pots.
My girlfriend tried to get into league and she was getting matched against plat and emerald players after her 4th game lmao
I had to play quick matches against people with level 117 mastery lmaoooo sweaty af
@9:35 they could have deffo ended that baron off with the people there T_T