@@zacharymilos392 I am caught up on emails. I usually always respond within hours or no more than 24 hours usually. Are you sure there was no typo in the email address?
does foresight charge a subscription to play in GS Pro? I already have a GS Pro subscription but wonder if another subscription from Foresight is required. THx
Bushnell Launch pro you need the stickers for club data to show correctly. Is that the same for the GC3? Is that also something that you have to use to get club data on the GC3?
So on the launch pro either you buy ball data only or ball and club data, Its only going to show on the launch monitor screen unless you buy the subscriptions to connect it to the software or apps?
What happens if I bought the unit second hand before October 1'st. And did not do a transfer of ownership yet. Will I lose the club data? In regards to BLP.
So if I buy the ball only Bushnell LP, I only get ball data. It can only be viewed on the unit itself? If I buy a gold subscription for $500 will it show ball only data in FXS Play, Awesome Golf, or GS Pro? Or still only on the BUSHNELL LP Unit itself?
Great video. I know it’s a personal choice but is there a huge advantage to getting club data for a mid-handicapper? I plan to use GSPro for fun, mainly playing various courses, but would also like to get in range time during the winter to attempt to lower my handicap. Im wondering if it’s worth the extra $150) to get club data.
Not sure if this helps, but I'm a 14 handicap and just got the ball enabled launch pro. As someone who just wants to improve, I've used a launch monitor in the past that had club data, but I really just never looked at it simply because i couldn't really make use of it. Also, i hate puting stickers on my club lol
The BLP is without a doubt the most confusing product I’ve ever owned…the marketing team might as well have been a room full of monkeys with typewriters
So in Europe our only option is GC3 for $5,999? I would honestly order the BLP right now if the new $1,999 business model was available in Europe. Seems weird that it has to cost $4,000 more to get into sim golf in Europe...
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I thought folks with GC3 have to pay $250 for GS Pro. BLP requires $499 Gold + $250 GS Pro. Correct? So difference to use GS Pro is $499/month Gold...not $749, right?
You would want to do the base BLP and $499 which gets you the software and ability for 3rd party connection or gc3 ball enabled bundle does come with FSX licenses for $5,999.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos sweet thank you the base BLP arrives tomorrow!! I’ll pay gold for the next couple of years for simulation, plus by then I’m sure there will be new tech that’s even more advanced! Don’t see the value in GC3 when tech advances so fast
Hoping someone can answer a question. I have a computer with an AMD GPU and do not want to purchase a new one therefore have been considering a Uneekor Eye Mini. My first option would be a Launch Pro, but it is my understanding an AMD GPU wont work with their software. I do know an AMD GPU will work with GSPro. With the new Foresight integration to allow GSPro, is it possible that I can now use a AMD GPU computer to get a BLP and use GSPro, or am I still out of luck?
Hi. What are your latest thought on the Eye Mini? There are a lot of reports of low ball speeds, mis-reads and erroneous side spin. Do you have any EM videos coming out soon? Many thanks.
That is one thing I did not ask and they did not mention. I think it will stay as is for the life of it and/or you could upgrade to the new subscription I would assume. I will try to get that answer asap.
I actually just talked to support. They said nothing changes because my unit was purchased before 10/9. I was actually able to upgrade to gold from basic, keeping club data. Club data is based on the unit not the subscription
Very informative. Thanks! Do you know details about buying the GC3 with only FSX Pro included? I wonder if the Awesome golf lifetime subscription would be included in that. Do they even offer a bundle that only has FSX Pro and not FSX2020 or FSX Play? Now that GS Pro is officially supported I imagine that quite a few people won't even want to bother spending thousands of dollars on FSX software when they can get simulator soft that is just as good for $250 a year.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos Thanks for the response. Does the FSX license mean at least FSX 2020 or is FSX Pro alone also ok to be able to get GSPRO connectivity?
Just checked mine to find gspro already converted licence and had to load up gspro and select my gc3 auto loaded the foresight connector and seems great
can i still play gs pro on just the ball data Bushnell? it says online u still can buy the gold package with it for 500, so i assume u can? if u can play gspro i will buy it right now been waiting for one to hit this price point
Hi. I am thinking about buying a GC3. In Europe we don’t have access to the BLP. As it is a high cost and I don’t have the possibility to build a full sim with screen and computer, I would only use it hitting in a net and leveraging the iPad and iPhone apps. Would you say it is worth it or rather go for a SkyTrak plus ?
Hi @guillaumesg5001, did you decide what’s best? i have the same setup in Europe. i’m leaning towards ST+ over Gc3 due to price here and ST+ over mevo plus due to ease of setup (no Sim room to setup once and leave it).
Thanks for this comment @phil864 as I definitely don’t have the space for the radar based units. There are definitely pros and cons for ST+ over GC3, biggest minus of GC3 being the price and no face angle, vs a maybe a little less accurate system but all around much more user-friendly and insightful.
The 25 courses will that apply to the existing users of gc3 or will that be additional too kinda feel like the current users r getting worked over a bit it’s a great unit more than happy with it but if new users get additional courses and awesome golf which I think is awesome 😳 kinda sucks for the people who went big to start with 😢 Excellent video as usual
Yes, they have added 15 courses to the existing FSX license holders. It includes courses like Detroit Country Club, Meadowbrook, Mill Creek, Twin Run, and others. I am not sure why everyone is worked up about Awesome Golf. This is a license deal they working out with them on new purchases. It would be like buying a car or something and if they came out with a new feature later expecting them to give it to you for free, never happens lol :) Plus they have a deal where if you buy a premium course they will cover the Awesome Golf License.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos come on jay we all love a freebie 😂 happy days about the courses reason I bought the gc3 was from your reviews etc Awesome golf is so good for the clubbing gapping imo love the simple look about it
@@karlosmorales32just buy a premium course and you get the lifetime license, done lol I mean sure everyone would be happy with free, but I get it from a licensing perspective.
@GolfSimulatorVideos I watched the entire video. I cast to the TV and let commercials play through to help reward content creators. I see that there is a $1500 upgrade to make the launch pro equivalent to mine... so $3500. I still got the $4k price lol 👍
I’m not sure but I’ve been told they are region locked. I’m sure they lock though since they need to be activated connecting to local internet. I don’t know any of this hands on though.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos thank you. I’ll let you know what happens. Right now it is for sure regionally locked and waiting for more answers as how to unlock and to what extent it will be unlocked
@@authenticalaniz I am not sure there is a way to unlock it. I have just heard everyone ask to have it outside the U.S. and sounds like no plans as of now. Glad I could at least try to help. Thanks for watching!
The hardware is $1999 which gets you full ball data. You only need ball data for simulation golf or to use for general range practice or into a net using the built in screen. You can add club data for $1500. If you want the software and 3rd party access you can then do the subscription which is $499 a year. I actually think this really helps get this tech into a wide array of the market using it for various applications.
The lifetime license is the way to go. The pay to play model is crazy. As years go by new hardware will come out who would ever buy your pay to play unit down the road. Consumers need to tell these companies a full unlocked unit has to be available. Just stop buying and they will listen real quick.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think the whole point here is to get a lower entry price, the unlocked is available, the GC3. They want them to be separate. Hope that makes sense.
I should also mention, the ability to get great ball data for the range or maybe into a net for flat cost of $2k is really good considering the quality of unit. Just my opinion but I think most would agree at that price point it is a great option for those range guys that want to see ball speed, spin, launch etc. You could really do a lot of game improvement on the range.
@@lagerg82 It always has been, I talk about this in the video, the hardware is identical, they are just trying to separate the pricing model. BLP did not have an unlocked option at launch then they added it and now took it back away with a lower flat subscription of $499.
Looking at buying GC3 or BLP? Email me at: a98cr125@gmail.com for the best information and pricing.
I emailed you and your team hasn't gotten back to me yet, it's been a few weeks. I'm sure your busy - any update on timing?
@@zacharymilos392 I am caught up on emails. I usually always respond within hours or no more than 24 hours usually. Are you sure there was no typo in the email address?
@@GolfSimulatorVideos you replied!! But you said your partner would reply with all the pricing, etc. It's no big deal.. I can email again if it helps?
@@zacharymilos392Yes, please reply to my response, I wonder if his email went to your spam. We can figured it out. Thanks
Thank you for the clarification on all of the muddy water that Foresight / Bushnell had created over the last several weeks.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
As a novice, a side by side comparison table would help. I don’t quite understand all the add ons and subscriptions. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for clearing up all the pricing options. Was super confused tbh
You are welcome! Thanks for waching!
does foresight charge a subscription to play in GS Pro? I already have a GS Pro subscription but wonder if another subscription from Foresight is required. THx
Bushnell Launch pro you need the stickers for club data to show correctly. Is that the same for the GC3?
Is that also something that you have to use to get club data on the GC3?
Yes they are identical hardware just different pricing models. Both require 1 dot for club data.
So on the launch pro either you buy ball data only or ball and club data, Its only going to show on the launch monitor screen unless you buy the subscriptions to connect it to the software or apps?
Correct. Thanks for watching!
What happens if I bought the unit second hand before October 1'st. And did not do a transfer of ownership yet. Will I lose the club data? In regards to BLP.
That is pretty specific. I would call and check. Thanks for watching.
Only the new units are ball enabled only. They have a different SKU number.
So if I buy the ball only Bushnell LP, I only get ball data. It can only be viewed on the unit itself? If I buy a gold subscription for $500 will it show ball only data in FXS Play, Awesome Golf, or GS Pro? Or still only on the BUSHNELL LP Unit itself?
I think I just answered your email 👍
@GolfSimulatorVideos curious to know the answer as well. Thinking of going the ball data only route.
Great video. I know it’s a personal choice but is there a huge advantage to getting club data for a mid-handicapper? I plan to use GSPro for fun, mainly playing various courses, but would also like to get in range time during the winter to attempt to lower my handicap. Im wondering if it’s worth the extra $150) to get club data.
Not sure if this helps, but I'm a 14 handicap and just got the ball enabled launch pro. As someone who just wants to improve, I've used a launch monitor in the past that had club data, but I really just never looked at it simply because i couldn't really make use of it. Also, i hate puting stickers on my club lol
@conner_productions so you can still use it as a simulator with just ball enabled data and paying for the gold subscription? Play courses, etc..
Just got my GC3 about a month ago. I wish I would have done a bit more research. I want those last four pieces of club data. Especially the face data.
You only get that with GCQuad with club data though, it’s a LOT more money!
If you only have the ball data gc3 you can unlock the club data at a price
Only most of it
@@MikeDoba Correct.
@@teeingofftn8704 Not sure what you mean here, it is the same club data as GC3 with club data?
The BLP is without a doubt the most confusing product I’ve ever owned…the marketing team might as well have been a room full of monkeys with typewriters
Feels like a sidewalk shell game
Sorry to hear that. I do think if they went with the current strategy in the beginning, it would’ve been a lot less confusing. Thanks for watching!
So in Europe our only option is GC3 for $5,999? I would honestly order the BLP right now if the new $1,999 business model was available in Europe. Seems weird that it has to cost $4,000 more to get into sim golf in Europe...
I would assume this Has to do with some type of licensing with Bushnell. Hopefully that changes in the future.
BLP is landlocked to only USA but I’d imagine you can get around it with a vpn
@@aidanjohnson6459How though?
If I have a gc3 with fsx play and have a gspro subscription do I have to pay foresight anything to use gspro?
No, if you have a FSX play license, 3rd party integration is included. There is a gspro link to convert your connection.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I thought folks with GC3 have to pay $250 for GS Pro. BLP requires $499 Gold + $250 GS Pro. Correct? So difference to use GS Pro is $499/month Gold...not $749, right?
If I get the ball data only version and pay the $500 do I get to use the simulator too?
You would want to do the base BLP and $499 which gets you the software and ability for 3rd party connection or gc3 ball enabled bundle does come with FSX licenses for $5,999.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos sweet thank you the base BLP arrives tomorrow!! I’ll pay gold for the next couple of years for simulation, plus by then I’m sure there will be new tech that’s even more advanced! Don’t see the value in GC3 when tech advances so fast
@@Alexonthetube Sure I get it and that is why it is a nice option for sure. Thanks for watching!
Awesome golf now included with full purchase of GC3…. So current owners get that or have to buy it?
Correct, I don’t think past users will get the lifetime license, but it sounds like they have a pretty fair upgrade it sounds like.
Great video Jay! so how do you know if FSX 2020 or Play has an update available
Play has a new update out. If you go to the download page, you can see the date of the release, which was a few days ago. Thanks for watching!
Hoping someone can answer a question. I have a computer with an AMD GPU and do not want to purchase a new one therefore have been considering a Uneekor Eye Mini. My first option would be a Launch Pro, but it is my understanding an AMD GPU wont work with their software. I do know an AMD GPU will work with GSPro. With the new Foresight integration to allow GSPro, is it possible that I can now use a AMD GPU computer to get a BLP and use GSPro, or am I still out of luck?
I believe this is just older AMD chips not newer ones.
I'm guessing the GC3/BLP is not compatible with TGC2019 since Foresight is now partnering with GSPro?
It is not listed at this time, I will ask my contacts if there are any plans in the future for support. Thanks for watching!
Hi. What are your latest thought on the Eye Mini? There are a lot of reports of low ball speeds, mis-reads and erroneous side spin. Do you have any EM videos coming out soon? Many thanks.
I actually have had pretty good luck so far. I have been quite busy but will get back to mini asap.
Great video Jay and for clarifying
Thanks for watching!
What happens to people who already have the BLP with basic $250 plan?
That is one thing I did not ask and they did not mention. I think it will stay as is for the life of it and/or you could upgrade to the new subscription I would assume. I will try to get that answer asap.
Please find out. Thank you
You can keep it as long as you have auto-renew turned on and you don't let it lapse.
support.foresightsports.com/changes-blp#section-6391
I actually just talked to support. They said nothing changes because my unit was purchased before 10/9. I was actually able to upgrade to gold from basic, keeping club data. Club data is based on the unit not the subscription
Top video Jay, very well explained can always count on your great content. Back to my Mevo 🤣
Haha. Well I appreciate you watching!
Very informative. Thanks! Do you know details about buying the GC3 with only FSX Pro included? I wonder if the Awesome golf lifetime subscription would be included in that. Do they even offer a bundle that only has FSX Pro and not FSX2020 or FSX Play? Now that GS Pro is officially supported I imagine that quite a few people won't even want to bother spending thousands of dollars on FSX software when they can get simulator soft that is just as good for $250 a year.
If you buy GC3 bundle with software all is included, that is a lifetime Awesome golf as well. You have to have the FSX license for GSPRO connectivity.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos Thanks for the response. Does the FSX license mean at least FSX 2020 or is FSX Pro alone also ok to be able to get GSPRO connectivity?
Do you know when integration between GSPro and foresite will happen?
Like, do I open GSPro and there’s a Connect to foresite button??
It’s done. GSPro has a conversion tool current users can use. gsprogolf.com/convert.html
@@GolfSimulatorVideos thank you so much!! None of this info is out there.
Just checked mine to find gspro already converted licence and had to load up gspro and select my gc3 auto loaded the foresight connector and seems great
@@GolfSimulatorVideos that was super easy to do!! Runs flawlessly
What about gspro official support on GCQuad?
Yes, anyone with a FSX license has official GSPro integration.
can i still play gs pro on just the ball data Bushnell? it says online u still can buy the gold package with it for 500, so i assume u can? if u can play gspro i will buy it right now been waiting for one to hit this price point
Yes, but you have to have the subscription to do so.
Wonder what the chances are that Foresight decides that this licensed API interacting with GSPro now needs a yearly subscription fee to get access.
This is all official, if you own a FsX license for gc3 or GCQuad there is no subscription. BLP there is.
Hi. I am thinking about buying a GC3. In Europe we don’t have access to the BLP. As it is a high cost and I don’t have the possibility to build a full sim with screen and computer, I would only use it hitting in a net and leveraging the iPad and iPhone apps. Would you say it is worth it or rather go for a SkyTrak plus ?
Shoot me an email and I can discuss the various options with you. Just too much to put in a comment. a98cr125@gmail.com
Hi @guillaumesg5001, did you decide what’s best? i have the same setup in Europe. i’m leaning towards ST+ over Gc3 due to price here and ST+ over mevo plus due to ease of setup (no Sim room to setup once and leave it).
Thanks for this comment @phil864 as I definitely don’t have the space for the radar based units. There are definitely pros and cons for ST+ over GC3, biggest minus of GC3 being the price and no face angle, vs a maybe a little less accurate system but all around much more user-friendly and insightful.
The 25 courses will that apply to the existing users of gc3 or will that be additional too kinda feel like the current users r getting worked over a bit it’s a great unit more than happy with it but if new users get additional courses and awesome golf which I think is awesome 😳 kinda sucks for the people who went big to start with 😢
Excellent video as usual
Yes, they have added 15 courses to the existing FSX license holders. It includes courses like Detroit Country Club, Meadowbrook, Mill Creek, Twin Run, and others. I am not sure why everyone is worked up about Awesome Golf. This is a license deal they working out with them on new purchases. It would be like buying a car or something and if they came out with a new feature later expecting them to give it to you for free, never happens lol :) Plus they have a deal where if you buy a premium course they will cover the Awesome Golf License.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos come on jay we all love a freebie 😂 happy days about the courses reason I bought the gc3 was from your reviews etc
Awesome golf is so good for the clubbing gapping imo love the simple look about it
@@karlosmorales32just buy a premium course and you get the lifetime license, done lol I mean sure everyone would be happy with free, but I get it from a licensing perspective.
no different from flightscope as well
Great video! Thanks for the info. I already have an unlocked GC3 with FSX play. Does that mean I can get life time awesome golf subscription for free?
Sounds like they will offer it with a premium course purchase but not for free. Only moving forward for new purchases.
I paid $4000 for my launch pro... they had raised the price for a little while.
Watch the video this is a new pricing model ball only data.
@GolfSimulatorVideos I watched the entire video. I cast to the TV and let commercials play through to help reward content creators. I see that there is a $1500 upgrade to make the launch pro equivalent to mine... so $3500. I still got the $4k price lol 👍
Will I be able to get GSPro on my Launch Pro ?
Yes. You just need the subscription. It’s an official integration.
Nice updates by Foresight!
I agree a lot of nice additions and more coming. Thanks for watching!
so does this apply to the Gc Quad also?
havent watched the vidoe yet will do it later today :)
Yes. Anyone with valid FSX license has 3rd party support now with Awesome Golf. Watch it all, there is a lot of information.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos will do 👍
Has anyone ever had their device locked when trying to use overseas?
I’m not sure but I’ve been told they are region locked. I’m sure they lock though since they need to be activated connecting to local internet. I don’t know any of this hands on though.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos thank you. I’ll let you know what happens. Right now it is for sure regionally locked and waiting for more answers as how to unlock and to what extent it will be unlocked
@@authenticalaniz I am not sure there is a way to unlock it. I have just heard everyone ask to have it outside the U.S. and sounds like no plans as of now. Glad I could at least try to help. Thanks for watching!
Will there be 3rd party integration with TGC2019?
Not as of right now, but I will ask them if this would possibly be coming in the future. Thanks for watching!
Thank you. Love the channel. Appreciate all the info
@@chesterjohnstaley24I did get a response, they said no plans at this time. Thanks again for watching!
Is the 1700.00 a one time fee?
The hardware is $1999 which gets you full ball data. You only need ball data for simulation golf or to use for general range practice or into a net using the built in screen. You can add club data for $1500. If you want the software and 3rd party access you can then do the subscription which is $499 a year. I actually think this really helps get this tech into a wide array of the market using it for various applications.
The lifetime license is the way to go. The pay to play model is crazy. As years go by new hardware will come out who would ever buy your pay to play unit down the road. Consumers need to tell these companies a full unlocked unit has to be available. Just stop buying and they will listen real quick.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think the whole point here is to get a lower entry price, the unlocked is available, the GC3. They want them to be separate. Hope that makes sense.
I should also mention, the ability to get great ball data for the range or maybe into a net for flat cost of $2k is really good considering the quality of unit. Just my opinion but I think most would agree at that price point it is a great option for those range guys that want to see ball speed, spin, launch etc. You could really do a lot of game improvement on the range.
I think the GC3 is basically the BLP unlocked version.
@@lagerg82 It always has been, I talk about this in the video, the hardware is identical, they are just trying to separate the pricing model. BLP did not have an unlocked option at launch then they added it and now took it back away with a lower flat subscription of $499.
These changes hose people that recently bought a BLP.
FInally they make good on their sales pitch over a year later
Thanks for watching!
lol, GC3 is over 4 times the price of the US price. I wonder why they geo lock these? :D
I think a lot of it has to do with regulations and licensing. Thanks for watching!
Such a rip-off