Fireman Now Has Two Suspiciously Dead Girlfriends. Was it Murder? | GRACE HOLLAND/SARAH SWEENEY P.2
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I am also a trained first responder. I am taught to remain calm & not yell into the radio/phone. But, this fire Capt. has ZERO emotion. Not a care in the world.
Interesting that Sarah not long ago opened her own Dr. Office... an abuser would not like that
Exactly.
What a horrible man , abusive to Grace verbally and physically. I just can’t even imagine dealing with this abusive.
My first impression was- by telling his profession he’s trying to get ahead of the questions about why he didn’t attempt life saving measures.
All those messages are on the Cloud for years, they don't need his phone... he sounds super guilty acting like he's the victim.
The detective is soft pedaling this man to reduce any antagonistic behavior fom the captain.
The POLICE should have seized both phones. They are allowing the suspect to hold onto the evidence. Bad idea! He was treating her very bad! MOTIVE: IF HE SELLS THE HOUSE HE GETS FULL VALUE OF THE HOME & doesn't have to share the money. Afterall. he has done this before.
Completely agree! You'd think they would NOT tell him what they are needing in order to preserve evidence. Seems like a huge red flag when they told him about the cellphone to begin with and then telling him exactly what they needed.
The way he says it the first time low key sounds like he almost laughs or giggles a little bit. The operator even seem like she is a little taken back by how he delivers the news.
I’ve been married 24yrs to the love of my life and he just doesn’t talk to me like this. We’re not perfect by any means, but growing up in a household where there was mental and physical abuse, we make it an effort to respect each other even when upset. This guy is just being horrible to her & it’s heartbreaking 💔
They say abusers aim for incredible women that are too good for them. They go for these beautiful high achievers with loving families & friends because the pay-off of their control and abuse is bigger. When he can take a gorgeous girl and break her down so bad that she thinks she's ugly or can't find someone better or manipulates her into giving up or losing her job, gaining control over money, alienating her from the people who love her etc... it makes him feel powerful because now he has gotten rid of all of his insecurities ex: I don't have to worry about her making more than me now, I don't have to worry about her going out with anyone else because she has no friends now, I don't feel intimidated by her anymore because her confidence is busted, but every time she fights to stand up for herself he'll take it as a threat. Notice how he says something about selling a house..um..you can't make that decision without your wife..so no doubt he was controlling money too.
100% WELL SAID
They were not married, they were engaged to be married. I was living in the town where this happened when it happened. Almost NOTHING on the news. I first heard about it from a video her twin sister shared with Me. (I do not personally know her, but know of her) I was shocked. They are definitely to cover it up here, but we are thrilled that it is now making NATIONAL news.
My ex husband would do this. You cannot win an argument with a narc and you literally just have to gray rock meaning no positive or negative attention. She was just trying to diffuse
Obviously, the Detective didn't do his job because Grace's death is listed as self inflicted not murder
Daus comes across as if he just doesn't care that Grace just took her life.
The police dept should be held accountable for not doing an investigation in my opinion. The only reason he was let off was because he was a fire captain and possibly sleeping with some men in high places and they did not want that exposed. I believe the evil goes deep and wide
The 911 operator showed more shock/emotion than the fiancé!
You don't tell dispatchers what you do for a living. "My fiance shot herself. I make the best subs in town at the pizza parlor down the street" I know exactly what he's dong because I have seen it many,many times. First responders protect each other and they get special treatment so they mention what they do like they're a damn VIP. Twice I got pulled over as a passenger in a drunk driver's car and the whole DUI process came to a screeching halt when the driver announced that they were a cop or firefighter. "Ok, sir, sorry to bother you" Another friend got a DUI and after he was already arrested and booked, he mentioned he was a firefighter and the cops leaned in and said "Why didn't you say something sooner? All this could've went away if you had." Knew a girl that had a cop as a BF and he used to beat her. When his buddies came to the house responding to her calls for help, they acted like it was just another little spat. He's playing that card..I've seen celebrities do it, Doctors..anything to get a perk. It's disgusting.
thank you for talking about this. Most people don’t believe it. There are a ton of Koolaid drinkers on this planet that do not realize the depth of Behind The Blue Line Tactics. Coercive Control etc.. i’ve yet to meet anyone that isn’t complicit. So disturbing. 💔
Exactly
Politicians & billionaires too. Small towns have a problem with this. I knew of a very wealthy man, with mob connections, who totalled his car after drinking with a small child in the backseat. It was never in our town newspaper, nor was he ever charged. In this case above, he mentioned twice he was a firefighter to the dispatchers. Now fire dept. is providing him with a lawyer. The lawyer decides what happens to the his phone & hers. Why weren't the phones collected right away? Allowing him to do a printout instead seems like tampering with evidence & obstruction of justice.
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I am not disagreeing with you, I know first hand how tribal law enforcement and emergency responders can be. I do not believe that was the reason he identified himself as a captain of the fire department at that point in the 911 call. Because he said this directly after assuring the dispatcher the victim was deceased, I think he was explaining how he was qualified to determine the victim was in fact deceased. This would downgrade the call to law enforcement only. Emergency responders (such as EMTs, ambulance, fire emergency units, etc.) did not need to be dispatched as the victim was beyond saving. I suspect he also did not want them responding with lights and sirens because he didn't want to draw that much attention to the situation. Plus, I think he wanted to control the crime scene and control his (I am sure rehearsed) interactions with law enforcement and that is difficult to do with a team of emergency responders coming in and out of the house.
Looks like Grace's father did file a wrongful death against Daus
And why wouldn't you. There was no investigation. The sheer fact that the entry round is on the left and she was right handed is statistically suspicious.
And it's Missouri, they protect their first responders.
Hell, they just dropped charges on a DUI death that involved a Jefferson county sheriff.
I'm glad this case is getting news, if not the powers that be, in Missouri will bury this.
Lots of kangaroo courts and corrupt judges out there.. the right ones can be bought off or blackmailed, intimidated into dropping the suit or just having it thrown out.
If Grace showed a video to him , how he was treating her , was her demise, unfortunately. What a piece of work this guy is.
Supposedly Grace sent this video to his boss and bff at the station. I think that's what I read in the article.
Leaving an abusive relationship is the most dangerous time in the relationship. That's when the most lethalities occur. It's not easy to leave safely.
Nah, I worked as a cna for years, seen everything and I'll tell you regardless of my experience I would still be frantic on a phone. My son's have medial stuff and all the know how kicks in but the emotion is most definitely still there. If I'm calling 911 it's bc I'm very concerned.
You can tell he’s a cold person, he’s not upset or shocked , she is his Fiancée , and what does it matter if he’s a Fire Captain? Is he saying I’m a Fire Captain, so don’t go through all the motions, I know what I’m doing and talking about.
I'm a fire fighter, so believe me.
He says very little on the call, but he got his point across.
Would love to see his phone data.
Wonder if they want him to give printouts of his phone so they can compare the texts with the ones Grace had on her phone. He might have deleted some of them.
Wow he is a horrible human being!!! I could never say things like that to anyone much less my spouse. It’s called respect for others regardless of being mad or not.
It is very difficult to walk away from an abusive relationship. In my case, I believed I loved him and bunches of pride. It felt very shameful to have everyone know what happened behind closed doors. My pride didn't want me to fail at the marriage.
I work in the fire service. And my girlfriend ended her life In a similar way 5 months ago. It still brings me to my knees guys. Every single day guys. When it happi didn't see it but I heard it. I was already on the phone with on the phone with 911 and I screamed her name I screamed so loud I had a full panic attack and when officers arrived and first responders they could not console me at all I was absolutely losing it. I still lose it to this day I love that women so much I miss her so damn much she's on my mind every minute of every day.
I’m so sorry for you loss and pain. My Sympathies to you and wishes for comfort.
the second person. Sarah Sweeney, was being abused as well. He islolated her from her family... and he has a major anger issues and that just dont go away. she was at the very least being verbally abused and isloated.
He's very cold in his voice and sounds pretty proud of himself..telling both of them that he's a Captain..He should have more emotion..with your Fiancee laying dead there..ugh!
I agree with the nurse. I am also a nurse… calmness is not the same thing as emotionless. I am extremely calm in those situations.. but never emotionless. Totally different things
abusive spouses usually convince the abused spouse that they are worthless, no one will want them, they can't do it on their own and you begin to believe it. they also threaten that if you try to leave, they will make your life a living HE double hockey sticks. They convince you that they have something that will make you look bad and they will make it known to everyone. If there are children involved, they use them as a tool to keep you. It's hard to get the courage to leave.
I've been plenty guilty of fawning plenty of times. A trauma response that abused people use to attempt to avoid further conflict/escalation....
I’m a retired nurse, always perfectly calm dealing with emergencies but it’s very different when you are dealing with a family member , friend, loved one etc. Something about that call sounds very “off” and why keep reiterating about his job … really? Your fiancé just shot herself ? Where’s the emotion? 🇬🇧
He's obviously leaving for work or something,she sounds like she is just saying goodbye , but trying not to engage in a fight
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Two murders - definitely dumb.
He got away with the first one and then just could not help himself by doing it again.
@@doc_law1593 Wonder if he was fired from being a fire fighter?
@@Patriot_Lady1776not at all. Locally they aren't reporting on it at all after the weekend reporting, once Monday came it was so shut down., but they certainly never mention his name.
In fact news 5 put the disclaimer saying they weren't naming him because he's not accused of anything.
Not sure what these beautiful accomplished women saw in this man. His voice alone would grate my nerves on the First date. There would have never been a second
His temperament is all I needed to know where my vote landed.
The 911 operator at the begining seems more concerned about her being shot then this a$$ 🕳️. His nonchalant demeanor is chilling.
As for the video. That was like looking into a mirror at my abusive relationship. IMO... A small part of her saying "I love you" like that was poking the bear... But mainly its because his emotions are like a 🎢 rollercoaster. She knows by the afternoon he's going to be saying I love & and what do you want to do for dinner....
It's a sad scary cycle.
If there is that many cases , I would say there is to much corruption going on , Ellen Greenberg is a perfect example.
That's exactly the same thing I said when the detective gave him the option to provide the texts
I'm gonna push past the "giving him the benefit" bullcrap- I have ZERO doubt this monster killed both of these beautiful souls!!! There are no such things as multiple coincidences.. on top of his violent nature. He needs to pay for his crimes.
I think it sounded like she was "poking the bear" too to get his behavior on film or perhaps a loved one gave her advice "Don't be mean, just kill him with kindness no matter what he says to you" and it could've been her proving to her loved one that she was handling the situation the way she promised she would because there's this sing-songy but brief vibe about her communication that sounds like she's holding a lot in and trying to prove she handled it well despite him being a total nut job.
I don't know what he sounds like in normal conversation. Even though he is trained to handle situations like this, I would expect to hear a little emotion leaking out.
32:00 Fawning in a passive aggressive way
It would be interesting to know whether he had taken out life insurances on each partner!?
WOW 😮 what a jerk, that video was disturbing! He is a classic controlling abuser and a killer! Can’t stand that his profession overrides common sense and he did not get looked into for these women’s deaths 😢
He was being coached. yes he is still a fire fighter at the Maryland Heights Fire department. He gave the Public information Officer report for this weeks Fire Board Metting.
Oh really?
He wasn’t breathing heavily, no panic, no sense of urgency.
Dr. Sarah's toxicology came back. Overdose of oxy, gabapentin, and benadryl. No manner of death yet.
I think that recording was for her record. She wanted to show how vile he was. So she also kept her words totally non confrontational. Even tho they pissed him off.
First responders are highly trained in how to act in all emergencies. Many agencies even have special training where family members are concerned. But this is too much.
My partner of 20+ years is a first responder. (FF/EMT for over 15 years) They are very calm in emergencies, (surprisingly so when it comes to the children) *EXCEPT* when it comes to me. Everyone responds differently, always try to keep that in mind but that call sounded so scary.
I grew up in Maryland Heights and have a condo there that I stay at when working in town. My parents live there and I just text this story to Mom. Looking into this case! You are my new favorite channel; interruptions and all! Started watching when you did ‘Get Away Granny!’
Omg ! I am listening with great ear buds when he is talking to i am guessing detective on the phone and i can hear her voice (.an evp) !! Let me know if you can hear it😮 when he starts mumbling and saying there are texts of them.arguing after he says " it goes quite aways" after he says you can hear it clear as day with ear buds...
Who's voice is it?
I have a friend who was with an abusive partner. She would definitely poke the bear. And she was so ridiculous at times. It surprised me that she would act like that knowing what he was capable of. 😢
Pete Walker talks about the 4 F's. Fawning, flight, fight, freeze
It could also be the detectives doing their job bavk handedly and yet being in the fire departments pocket.
Not sure where you popped up from on my feed but I like your voice and you have a genuine personality. It’s refreshing.
First, rest in peace Sarah because you’re in a better place now. We pray for justice for you & Grace. I don't believe in coincidences especially when it comes to multiple deaths in a home. This guy is being treated very “special” by the police in this town bc of his position and other connections.
I love your kind and gentle nature.
You are a REAL man and a blessing to your family and to us via your channel🙏
Was he cheating? Have no idea what fight was about but reminds me of guys who purposely fight to have excuses to be away so they can cheat.
The one thing I am not understanding about the video…that doesn’t sound like a fight between a couple, it sounds like a relationship that is over. She may love him but he makes it clear that he is not in love with her. Such a creep.
I think they both know he was talking out of his ass to intentionally hurt her in that moment and she was trying to let him knew that and that his words during his outrage weren’t hurting her.
When our son died, the detective took photos of my texts.
he forgot to sell conway.....
It reminds me of this call of this 9-1-1 call of this police officer in NYC, who abused his child to death, ( froze), and he announced almost first thing he was a police officer, ( like you would not suspect a police , fire chief to do this), but why is it important to even say this on this call.? Plus women who decide to take own life, do not usually choose a gun, way to violent.
I have more emotion if I stub my big toe. What don't understand is that he couldn't even fake it?
7:21 Good for you Gavin. Nobody has a right to tell you how to run your channel. I appreciate your input and pauses in order to point out important details
I agree… Gavin’s POV is why I enjoy this channel so much. I also miss things that he points out.
What did they see in this guy ?
You would think he would have so much adrenaline pumping through his body finding her like this that his breathing would be faster and he would at least be saying how devastated he is to see this. He is way toooooo calm!! Unless he has seen so much crap that he is desensitized…doubt that tho…especially when it’s your loved one!
I think she is attempting to end the conversation on a positive note.
she was under his fincial control. he isolated her and made her look like the crazy girlfriend. and yes he should have gotten help but when an abuser does this crap it lowers the victrims self esteem. she felt trapped.
Hi again Gavin, I subscribed yesterday after I heard this story. Like I said I really love how you go through everything with your audience and plus you’re friends with the Amazing Sherilyn Dale who I love so much. I’m hoping to get through this tonight, but if not I’ll definitely finish tomorrow. My only question 🙋🏻♀️ When do you go live or do is it just randomly? Thank you ❤
there is an interview with the channel 4 news with this same officer talking about the case and he said on camera that taking about why they did not test for gun shot residue. He sadi is is not reliable. they are just so many jorrible things about this case and they way it was handled.
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He is trying to get a negative response from her, then it will be all her fault in his twisted mind, she isn't playing into his game. Scooby was correct.
That was her poking the bear 😂 when women are videotaping & answer in that short , abrupt , high pitched tone….poking the bear 🐻
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I agree with you. Normally when we would do something like that it is poking the bear. You don't use harsh words you would say exactly that. You would say sweet nice things because it's going to make them even more upset you are saying nice things. Like "Ha-ha, It doesn't bother me what you are saying. Love you!!! bye!!" When someone says all these mean things and I come at you with these nice sweet things, it makes the other person mad. To them, it's like you aren't listening even if the stuff coming out of their mouth is trash. The man is trash and if two Gf's did this?? Well, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that guy either!! He would have put me in a horrible mindset also! (if that is what happened)
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Brandon Embry is another case that LE blames the victim caused their own death.
Want he standing next to her when this happened? Wouldn't he be adrenaline pumped? He sounds way too calm.
Hi Gavin
Am watching this on replay. I was always to,d that if you talk to someone and feel like you are talking to a brick wall then walk away which she should have done then she would.d have been here now. This guy has a short fuse. Imo he killed the two females. The police and fire service work hand in glove and think this guy is truthful. Not a nice guy period
Much love and respect from across the pond in Uk x
What’s the new/update about this case please? (As of end of Feb 2024)
Gavin did another live video on this "I Think I Made a HUGE Mistake | A Closer Look at GRACE HOLLAND'S Case File"
it shows he is an abuser. I dont think she was trying to hurt him.. She was trying to record to show the abuse.
This guy is suspicious. Stumbling over his words during police questioning about his phone. He should be investigated closely. Two women dead in his house. Coincidence, doubtful!
I am wondering if He had life insurance on these two beautiful woman . Also another thing that Cane to my mind was that he is a narcissist and He was egging her on to kill herself in another video I saw where he was telling her to go kill herself. Also No wonder she lost her baby He was emotionally and verbally and physically abusive . Watch websleauth they have more coverage on this case
I looked into the life insurance and I could not find any policies on Grace or Sarah.
The police covered for the murderer in my opinion 😢
Watched two about the little 5 year old, subscribing, and catching up.
It sounds pretty weird to me I would expect at least some emotion..
Unpopular opinion here but we don’t have the second girlfriends COD and we’re going off suspicions that Grace did not do it based off a set of suspicious facts in the case. But ultimately we don’t really know and right now it’s all speculation. That home video showed a woman being passive aggressive with a man that appeared to be frustrated and very much verbalizing his desire to end the relationship. Sarcastically she bucked back that she loved him and would see him later as if to totally disregard his feelings. We don’t know for sure if he’s been abusive to her that’s secondhand hearsay from her sister whom heard it from Grace. We don’t know if that’s not something she said when he threatened to leave. If she was scared of him she certainly didn’t appear that way in the video.
In my opinion I think he’s suspicious. I think the circumstances are definitely worth taking a look at it and the way Grace’s case seems to have been handled is a giant red flag. He may very well be all the things he’s suspected of being. A k!ll£r, an abv$€r etc. But, he might not be and that video was not proof he was. It didn’t look good for Grace unfortunately.
No matter if he was abusive, the policeconversations with him in itself are disturbing. Why didn't they took his phone and why did the police give him a headsup that they want to look at it? A suicide wirh a person present should be always be investigated as possible Homicide. And the 911 call is suspicious enough to look deeper
Which is what I said red flags. Definitely mishandled and needs a second look for sure!
Ladies stay away from this guy!
If you are going to the length of taking photos why not just take a video scrolling through it slowly. Way easier, turn you can take screenshots as needed.
Ty Knotts used one of your pics in his Sarah Sweeney video today. I'm sure , u know, but just in case u don't !
they do know him. He owns a busines that makes all the statues, awards, ect for the police department, fire fighters, back stoppers and more. his family is firefighters and police. His brother was acused of molesting a boy while he was a ploice officer. His brother id dead now because of alcoholism. this is a well known tight nit firefightrer/police community.
His voice sounded to me like he was inconvenienced.
Please explain why she didn’t want to leave? When it is over and you refuse to walk away: the only thing that can happen is a bad thing. It’s over. OVER
She obviously pushed him too far intentionally. She wanted a good video on him to give to her divorce attorney. Sick and sad. Takes two to fight in their relationship.
@@lisawilson105they were not married.
He was WAY to calm for my liking in that 911 call. Ya him being a firefighter COULD possibly be why he remained call but if it were me in his shoes, this wouldn't just be yet another call you'd receive because of a fire or some one shot or some one unalived themselves. This is a person who you ALLEGEDLY loved. That runs a lot deeper then a call about someone you know. A person your dating just shot themselves and your non- Chelant about it!?! To me that don't add up jor make sense. Example, I had a friends kid who swallowed food wrong way. Started choaking, couldn't breath. I calmly called 911. Now my daughter when she was 2 weeks old chocked on Tylenol due to having her tongue cut earlier that day from being tongue tied. She turned blue and stopped breathing. My mom calmly said call 911. I was so frantic on tgat 911 call. I was crying, stuttering, shaking and all the above. That was my OWN KID. Had I not lived with my mom and that happened, omg idk if my daughter would still be here. I'd lost all train of thought the moment she turned blue, but my mom was so calm and git her to start breathing again. But when it came to my kids friend I was calm and didnt loose my train of thought, didn't 4 get the CPR etc
Why didn't police just get transcript from phone company?
They are trying but the captain is fighting it in court. Wonder why?
The audio of “them” clearly sounds like a man who feels like he’s being forced to be in the relationship. It’s as simple as that. He doesn’t want to be with her. She knows she’s recording, not him. So if anyone would be provoking it woulda been her.
Hmmm. 🤔. She might be poking the bear a little but she also knows she's recording.
This guy is so full of himself it turns my stomach. I wouldn't be afraid to bet that he killed her. Hope they have good cops in that town. Sounds like the cop is trying to build some trust. The fireman is tripping all over himself trying not to give up his phone.
I think her first few I love yous were her being hurt deeply and she was trying to give him love in spite of it. Towards the end I think her I love yous were more like the eff word because he was being so nasty 😔