Great presentation! Slight correction, though: it’s coming up on 7 years since Heather’s death. I hope justice is done for her. I’m glad she gave up Philip to protect him from alleged abuse, but personally, I would never stay with someone who harmed my child.
The 911 call reminds me SO much of the David Tronnes 911 call.. guy who 'found his wife drowned in the bathtub' and is wailing so dramatically, is in no rush to answer questions, says he is performing CPR (you can tell he isn't), and he didn't drain the bathtub... kinda like how Andy only decides to turn the shower off half way through the 911 call too. The parents sound more quietly anxious than anything to me. Like they're not freaking out because they're so stressed and worried internally (knowing their son is toast for this).
🚩🚩inconsistent stories, not exhausted w cpr, too much wailing imo, and then talking about this with his children present, just no..❤❤ 🙏 for her aunt Cindy and children🕊️
Amazing how the phone stops cutting out each time Andy needs to be heard. how are his parents so calm ? women dont usually shoot themselves in the head and no one does it naked. Didn't the coroner xray her head to find the bullet ?
I know I already made a long comment but that was before I looked at your page. I feel like I’ve landed on my own planet! I craft everyday for self care and lots of times I’m catching up on trials and cases while I do so. I also relate to a deep love for some special dogs in my life too!! Many blessings to you and yours. I’m here to stay I think.
Just missed the live, damn! Watching now.. 40:10 the report saying she was naked is a red flag in itself to me. I don't know statistics on this but I doubt that many people take their lives intentionally without clothes on, especially women (as sexist as that sounds, there is statistical basis that indicates that females are more likely to use methods that are less violent and less 'disfiguring', and I can speak from personal experience from my 20s when I made a couple of attempts on my life and I dressed up.. don't even know why really.. but I put on my favourite black dress etc). Couple that with this supposed note she left behind which should imply that this wasn't impulsive spur of the moment sort of thing where she's in the bathroom, happens to be naked, and thinks 'feck it, I'm doing it right now'. If you're going to leave a note, you're going to have some damn clothes on. The scene sounds more like he purposely went in while she was in the bathroom, essentially cornered, and shot her.
I’m equally shocked as Gavin that the news interview was conducted with the children present 🤯. Also, what a tell when he says “Absolutely” as he’s responding to the abuse allegations from the nanny. He’s explaining exactly who he is and what he’s capable of doing.
Gavin, Gavin, Gavin..... yes, of course a case page would be much appreciated for the Heather Turner case.... or anything else you feel is important. We love you! ❤
@Gavin Fish I just found you for the first time and wanted to say hi. I appreciate your professionalism and the time and energy you clearly dedicate to making your you tube place one that feels full of respect, kindness, and authenticity. Thank you! I look forward to learning more about this fascinating case and being a new subscriber!!
Hi Gavin and everyone. I agree that it doesn't sound like he is winded. Also, 10+ minutes of chest compressions would likely result in bruising and possibly cracked ribs.
On the 911 call, I wouldn’t say the mother wasn’t freaking out. When she comes in the room you can hear her scream “oh my god”. The dad might just be the kind of good ole southern boy that sees the situation for what it is & was relaying that.
It is ALWAYS "fishy" to me,when there's a reported suicide..reported by someone that's accused of inter-partner abuse 🤨 especially when the decedent was rumored to be leaving that person!!
He's trying to hold the towel on her head, while trying to give cpr. Cpr is hard. He didn't mention anything about having help there. I hate a fake crier. Why do that? Just be calm then if you can't force the tears. Dang! And what's up with his Dad? Absolutely no emotion at all? He sounds like he's a zombie or just got woke up
What a piece of work…he says no one understands…tell him to give Kouri Ritchens a call. I hope they get to the truth. I can’t believe this guy is a pastor 😭😭😭
His parents sound like the most unemotional people. The Dad especially had no care in the world. Like he was telling someone that their tire was flat - NOT that his daughter in law was lying dead in the bathroom!
56:35 I am so glad this Fella said this..🤨 I was thinking this the second we heard the state Heather was reportedly in..🤔 I've heard it is not super common for women to purposely exit life,while unclothed.
You are right about Andy's probable acting job on the 911 call. I thought the same. He doesn't ask desperately when the ambulance is going to arrive. I would be very impatient if my loved one was on the verge of dying, I would ask every minute. Love from Frankfurt, Germany
Hi Gavin Am watching this on the replay and judging by the 911 call won’t get an Oscar in this case. This guy has robbed her daughter of a mother and her son. So heartbreaking. They say that in time someone shows their true colours and it’s happened in this instance with the ex nanny. The report is not as it seemed and could still change. Much love and respect from across the pond in Uk x
I don’t trust Andy Turner at all. The detectives need to keep working this case. I didn’t know Heather, and even I know she did not do this to herself. No way.
Hello. I have been watching your coverage of the Mica Miller case. How similar is this case to the Mica Miller case? Both beautiful young women in their 30's, in their second marriages to a cheating, abusive, "pastor" husband who had preyed on them from a young age, and both ready to get divorced and be free from their abusers, and just move on with life. I think it's also interesting how you mentioned the pointing (mocking) spider man meme, and JP was recently spotted wearing a spider man suit. Was he mocking us all with that suit? Was he familiar, and maybe even inspired by this case?
16:30 Ugh..🥺 I can only imagine how hard giving up her son must have been on Heather!! A good Mother does what is best for her child/children..😕 even if it's not what she wants.
WOW! First I have heard of this case. How many women who have left their preaching husbands have been shot in the head? Similar to the Mica Miller case.
4:40 🫤 I hear what Gavin is bringing up here. We go over the facts of these cases,point by point,and the facts are harsh because there's violence..but we do it BECAUSE we care about these folks. They deserve to have their stories told,and they deserve Justice. Heather was beautiful,she sounds lovely,and I am so,so sorry to everyone that loves her..❤️
It sounded like he was vomiting or wrenching at one point during the 911 call when he supposedly doing CPR no way he was doing CPR if he was he would have been winded forsure. Vomiting sounds at 31:09 the first time i heard the noise is right before Gavin pauses to say listen things are going to change and then a couple more times I hear the wreching after that too. 31:09
Anyone else find it odd to take a shower remain butt naked before the act ? Just seems odd to me I THINK if I take time to shower I will get some clothes on as well idk sounds fishy and why make husband / wife time sound creepy like that
that 911 call is just silly! ive had to make two calls to 911 and let me tell you thats not what its like! i never heard him say hurry, where is the ambulance, where is help? and hes not doing cpr! ive also done that and i would not have been able to keep acting lij e i was crying!
So,I'm right around 34:34 mins 🤨 If this Dude(even could)do CPR for 10-12 mins..they'd need a second bus for HIM 🙄 cuz he'd be,legit,having a heartattack!!
@@DocBree13 ah, ok. So a deadbolt isn’t a bolt that is separate to the key lock? A deadbolt in the UK would be an actual bolt that you pull across separate to the normal lock.
🇦🇺 definitely not a god fearing continent / country. i was under the impression. persons whom attended church, showed more discipline and had a firm sense of decorum..? otherwise, clearly it’s just atrocious parenting.! hypocrisy skiting obnoxious braggadocious behaviour / s. it’s extremely….off putting.! my spidey senses are on edge with this man. big time.! ICKY.! 😝🤔😝🤔 * i’m truly concerned for those children in his care.! 😏😒 🥺🕯 #neverforgetmyname #truthseekersunite #JUSTICE #childsafety #answerstoquestions #WHY ~claire~ brisbane queensland ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
I wasn’t exactly a nanny, he offered me a nanny position after his wife passed (I never knew her) I met him just a few weeks later not know she had passed so recently. He turned it into something more very quickly so by time we went on the cruise, we were already seeing each other.
I have heard a lot of911 calls and was thinking the same thing that this lady was great! Some of the dispatchers I've hears definitely ain't found their calling yet to say the least but this chick did an amazing job! Also I think when people commit crimes and have to do fake 911 calls. They don't think about how long they actually are on the phone with 911. ten minutes of just being on the phone is actually a long time.
I don’t understand why she would have wet hair. Why would u shower just to shoot yourself. Don’t make so sense to me.
Great presentation! Slight correction, though: it’s coming up on 7 years since Heather’s death. I hope justice is done for her.
I’m glad she gave up Philip to protect him from alleged abuse, but personally, I would never stay with someone who harmed my child.
Thou shall not kill... prayers for the children, hope they are being supported, counselled & loved. RIP Heather 🙏❤️
The 911 call reminds me SO much of the David Tronnes 911 call.. guy who 'found his wife drowned in the bathtub' and is wailing so dramatically, is in no rush to answer questions, says he is performing CPR (you can tell he isn't), and he didn't drain the bathtub... kinda like how Andy only decides to turn the shower off half way through the 911 call too.
The parents sound more quietly anxious than anything to me. Like they're not freaking out because they're so stressed and worried internally (knowing their son is toast for this).
I thought of that case, too
Yes! Exactly like that. So suspicious.
🚩🚩inconsistent stories, not exhausted w cpr, too much wailing imo, and then talking about this with his children present, just no..❤❤ 🙏 for her aunt Cindy and children🕊️
Amazing how the phone stops cutting out each time Andy needs to be heard. how are his parents so calm ? women dont usually shoot themselves in the head and no one does it naked. Didn't the coroner xray her head to find the bullet ?
I know I already made a long comment but that was before I looked at your page. I feel like I’ve landed on my own planet! I craft everyday for self care and lots of times I’m catching up on trials and cases while I do so. I also relate to a deep love for some special dogs in my life too!! Many blessings to you and yours. I’m here to stay I think.
Just missed the live, damn! Watching now.. 40:10 the report saying she was naked is a red flag in itself to me. I don't know statistics on this but I doubt that many people take their lives intentionally without clothes on, especially women (as sexist as that sounds, there is statistical basis that indicates that females are more likely to use methods that are less violent and less 'disfiguring', and I can speak from personal experience from my 20s when I made a couple of attempts on my life and I dressed up.. don't even know why really.. but I put on my favourite black dress etc).
Couple that with this supposed note she left behind which should imply that this wasn't impulsive spur of the moment sort of thing where she's in the bathroom, happens to be naked, and thinks 'feck it, I'm doing it right now'. If you're going to leave a note, you're going to have some damn clothes on.
The scene sounds more like he purposely went in while she was in the bathroom, essentially cornered, and shot her.
He literally did not sound like he was still doing compressions
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Heck yes!
I’m equally shocked as Gavin that the news interview was conducted with the children present 🤯.
Also, what a tell when he says “Absolutely” as he’s responding to the abuse allegations from the nanny. He’s explaining exactly who he is and what he’s capable of doing.
Gavin, Gavin, Gavin..... yes, of course a case page would be much appreciated for the Heather Turner case.... or anything else you feel is important. We love you! ❤
Very good and detailed. Hard to believe he is still walking free. Would definitely like to see more on this!
@Gavin Fish I just found you for the first time and wanted to say hi. I appreciate your professionalism and the time and energy you clearly dedicate to making your you tube place one that feels full of respect, kindness, and authenticity. Thank you! I look forward to learning more about this fascinating case and being a new subscriber!!
Hi Gavin and everyone.
I agree that it doesn't sound like he is winded. Also, 10+ minutes of chest compressions would likely result in bruising and possibly cracked ribs.
I hope there's an investigation going on. Andy seems like a monster.
Please add a case page with Heather’s case info! Thank you for the exposure into this heartbreaking situation.
His mother sounded shocked and devastated, and his father sounded very sad, to me.
On the 911 call, I wouldn’t say the mother wasn’t freaking out. When she comes in the room you can hear her scream “oh my god”. The dad might just be the kind of good ole southern boy that sees the situation for what it is & was relaying that.
I completely agree
If you in a good marriage, don't take it for granted. Keep the marriage alive.
SERIOUSLY! ?!? 2 weeks later?!?! Wow he is a very confident individual. My eyes rolling soooo high in air smh
Yes on the case page, please
Reminds me of Alex Murdaugh call
It is ALWAYS "fishy" to me,when there's a reported suicide..reported by someone that's accused of inter-partner abuse 🤨 especially when the decedent was rumored to be leaving that person!!
I’m Really new to your channel and I really like your demeanour and the videos
wow, Andy seems to leave a trail of destruction in his wake doesn't he??!! Feel a bit for his children.
He's trying to hold the towel on her head, while trying to give cpr. Cpr is hard. He didn't mention anything about having help there. I hate a fake crier. Why do that? Just be calm then if you can't force the tears. Dang! And what's up with his Dad? Absolutely no emotion at all? He sounds like he's a zombie or just got woke up
What a piece of work…he says no one understands…tell him to give Kouri Ritchens a call. I hope they get to the truth. I can’t believe this guy is a pastor 😭😭😭
The 911 operator is AMAZING! I've heard way too many tapes with pathetic behavior 😞
His parents sound like the most unemotional people. The Dad especially had no care in the world. Like he was telling someone that their tire was flat - NOT that his daughter in law was lying dead in the bathroom!
The 911 dispatcher is one of the best I’ve heard. I’ve heard many others, and dispatchers have been rude & seem uninterested, IMO.
I agree
56:35 I am so glad this Fella said this..🤨
I was thinking this the second we heard the state Heather was reportedly in..🤔 I've heard it is not super common for women to purposely exit life,while unclothed.
You are right about Andy's probable acting job on the 911 call. I thought the same.
He doesn't ask desperately when the ambulance is going to arrive. I would be very impatient if my loved one was on the verge of dying, I would ask every minute.
Love from Frankfurt, Germany
Show of hands... who had to take a long shower after listening to this... but locked the door first.
Hi Gavin
Am watching this on the replay and judging by the 911 call won’t get an Oscar in this case. This guy has robbed her daughter of a mother and her son. So heartbreaking. They say that in time someone shows their true colours and it’s happened in this instance with the ex nanny. The report is not as it seemed and could still change.
Much love and respect from across the pond in Uk x
I don’t trust Andy Turner at all. The detectives need to keep working this case. I didn’t know Heather, and even I know she did not do this to herself. No way.
THE PASTOR ❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hello. I have been watching your coverage of the Mica Miller case. How similar is this case to the Mica Miller case? Both beautiful young women in their 30's, in their second marriages to a cheating, abusive, "pastor" husband who had preyed on them from a young age, and both ready to get divorced and be free from their abusers, and just move on with life. I think it's also interesting how you mentioned the pointing (mocking) spider man meme, and JP was recently spotted wearing a spider man suit. Was he mocking us all with that suit? Was he familiar, and maybe even inspired by this case?
16:30 Ugh..🥺
I can only imagine how hard giving up her son must have been on Heather!!
A good Mother does what is best for her child/children..😕 even if it's not what she wants.
WOW! First I have heard of this case. How many women who have left their preaching husbands have been shot in the head? Similar to the Mica Miller case.
When was the deadbolt unlocked?
His parents probably had a key and unlocked it when they arrived
4:40 🫤 I hear what Gavin is bringing up here. We go over the facts of these cases,point by point,and the facts are harsh because there's violence..but we do it BECAUSE we care about these folks. They deserve to have their stories told,and they deserve Justice.
Heather was beautiful,she sounds lovely,and I am so,so sorry to everyone that loves her..❤️
All he is doing is a great job keeping up with his performance!!!
Did they check her during the autopsy to see if there was evidence of "husband wife time"?
It sounded like he was vomiting or wrenching at one point during the 911 call when he supposedly doing CPR no way he was doing CPR if he was he would have been winded forsure. Vomiting sounds at 31:09 the first time i heard the noise is right before Gavin pauses to say listen things are going to change and then a couple more times I hear the wreching after that too. 31:09
I heard it too, super weird! Why would he be doing that?
So the child supposedly slept through the gunshot. Sadly for a minute there he sounded like he was laughing...how'd his parents get past the deadbolt
What "We' heard" anything supposedly it was just him and the kids slept through it he was the only one there and the deadbolt was locked
My dad sounds like that when he cries if he’s extremely upset
@@DocBree13 hopefully it's not because he just shot your mom while you were there it's all about the context 🙃
I'd definitely like to see a case page on this case. Something definitely isn't right about this.
This is reminiscent of Alex murdaughs 911 call
Anyone else find it odd to take a shower remain butt naked before the act ? Just seems odd to me I THINK if I take time to shower I will get some clothes on as well idk sounds fishy and why make husband / wife time sound creepy like that
When you lie your story will always change
that 911 call is just silly! ive had to make two calls to 911 and let me tell you thats not what its like! i never heard him say hurry, where is the ambulance, where is help? and hes not doing cpr! ive also done that and i would not have been able to keep acting lij e i was crying!
So,I'm right around 34:34 mins 🤨
If this Dude(even could)do CPR for 10-12 mins..they'd need a second bus for HIM 🙄 cuz he'd be,legit,having a heartattack!!
Why isnt a forensic handwriting analysis expert being utilized
How did the parents get in if the door was dead bolted?
They probably had a key
@@DocBree13 ah, ok. So a deadbolt isn’t a bolt that is separate to the key lock? A deadbolt in the UK would be an actual bolt that you pull across separate to the normal lock.
Who opened the door for the parents to come in?
Andy sounds like he should be described as a predator
Okay this is shades of the Mica Miller case all around something is deeply wrong with these scenarios. Evil.
I was thinking the same thing
"Permanent Restraining Order"..🤔
Interesting that it's permanent!!
That's NOT super common..😳
I wonder if this was inspiration for what happened to Mica Miller...assuming her husband had something to do with her desth.
🇦🇺 definitely not
a god fearing continent / country.
i was under the impression.
persons whom attended church, showed more discipline and had a firm sense of decorum..?
otherwise, clearly it’s just atrocious parenting.!
hypocrisy
skiting
obnoxious
braggadocious
behaviour / s.
it’s extremely….off putting.!
my spidey senses are on edge with this man.
big time.!
ICKY.!
😝🤔😝🤔
* i’m truly concerned for those children in his care.!
😏😒
🥺🕯
#neverforgetmyname
#truthseekersunite
#JUSTICE
#childsafety
#answerstoquestions
#WHY
~claire~
brisbane
queensland
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He's so creepy - he obviously thinks he's some kind of stud.
Quality is obviously not a consideration for ministry these days. Sheesh!
Oh jeeze..🙄 of course he started up with the Nanny!!
(No offense,Lady)
Just sayin
I wasn’t exactly a nanny, he offered me a nanny position after his wife passed (I never knew her) I met him just a few weeks later not know she had passed so recently. He turned it into something more very quickly so by time we went on the cruise, we were already seeing each other.
Another Facebook only family.
Too late but mb help someone else Always leave on the down low
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Hate to say this, but he looks alot like a Pastor being looked at today ,(5-10-24).
Yep.
Man you talk too much and say very little, get the fillers out and get to the point/story
This is how true crime works and why we are here. To hear him talk. If you want a quick story- watch the news.
I have heard a lot of911 calls and was thinking the same thing that this lady was great! Some of the dispatchers I've hears definitely ain't found their calling yet to say the least but this chick did an amazing job!
Also I think when people commit crimes and have to do fake 911 calls. They don't think about how long they actually are on the phone with 911. ten minutes of just being on the phone is actually a long time.