Lost Worlds #4 : Rise and Fall of Persian Gulf

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  • The Persian Gulf is just the flooded part of Tigris/Euphrates rivers valley.
    During the last glacial period, it was a flood plain like the modern Iraqi one.
    REFERENCES :
    Hallast, P., Agdzhoyan, A., Balanovsky, O. et al. A Southeast Asian origin for present-day non-African human Y chromosomes. Hum Genet (2020). doi.org/10.1007/s00439-020-02...
    Grant, K., Rohling, E., Ramsey, C. et al. Sea-level variability over five glacial cycles. Nat Commun 5, 5076 (2014). doi.org/10.1038/ncomms6076
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  • @jmiquelmb
    @jmiquelmb 2 месяца назад +243

    It makes much sense that there's a great flood myth in Mesopothamia now. The region experienced sea level raisings in recent millenia

    • @Normal_user_coniven
      @Normal_user_coniven 2 месяца назад +24

      And, they said that it happened 7680 years ago before Sumer (3800BC). So, (~11,000BCE).

    • @secretarchiveofabobabasein1908
      @secretarchiveofabobabasein1908 2 месяца назад +24

      @@Normal_user_conivenThat’s probably a myth, since they had no way of keeping accurate information for that long. Also, in 11000 BCE, the sea levels were ~75 meters lower than they are today

    • @jmiquelmb
      @jmiquelmb 2 месяца назад +16

      ​@@secretarchiveofabobabasein1908 There's a flood in the region that would become the sea south of Sumer that is from 4th millennium BCE, not that long before the cities of Ur and Uruk were built

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ 2 месяца назад +14

      You also have to consider how extremely flood prone the rivers in that area are. Considering the incredibly wide reach of flood myths I'm sure that they have their roots in deep cultural memory of sea level changes but in Mesopotamia at least the flooding of the rivers probably played a part as well.

    • @Makama1712
      @Makama1712 2 месяца назад +7

      You also have to bear in mind that a great flood is mentioned in almost all mythologies, even in South America. So either there was a severe flood as soon as Homo sapiens emigrated from Africa, which was so severe that it has been passed down orally for thousands of years, or severe floods are simply part of the "normal" disasters that Homo sapiens have experienced throughout history.

  • @titanicbigship
    @titanicbigship 2 месяца назад +95

    Oh so that's why everyone has a great flood story

    • @Auroral_Anomaly
      @Auroral_Anomaly 2 месяца назад +3

      It probabky inspired the middle eastern ones, in other parts of the world it was different events.

    • @M167A1
      @M167A1 Месяц назад +1

      I like The Black Sea hypothesis myself

    • @irenedeneb6188
      @irenedeneb6188 Месяц назад

      Deep in the collective human memory are distorted fragments of these deluges which followed the end of the last ice age. Everywhere from Mesopotamia to China the stories remain of survivors who moved inland with the rising water.

  • @satyr1349
    @satyr1349 2 месяца назад +44

    Very nice work. Especially liked the inclusion of the mass human migrations which happened every 20-30 thousand years.

  • @pt4103
    @pt4103 2 месяца назад +9

    Thinking the last 10 seconds are all of human written history really puts things in perspective

    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 Месяц назад +1

      All of this time featured humans. You are thinking of the agricultural revolution we know.

    • @pt4103
      @pt4103 Месяц назад +1

      @@robertjarman3703 yep, pretty much. that's why I said written history, writing is a relatively recent invention n all

  • @mustafahasan957
    @mustafahasan957 2 месяца назад +8

    Thanks , we need to see evolution of Tigris and Euphrates also

  • @StuffandThings_
    @StuffandThings_ 2 месяца назад +18

    I really wonder what the Strait of Hormuz looked like during those absolute lowest sea levels, with a (presumably) giant river delta and rich swamp flanked by the deep inlets of the Musandam peninsula, which almost seem like they might have been filled in with swamplands as well. Considering that those are ria formations too, I imagine at that time things may not have even been quite so oppressively dry at least in that little bit.

    • @user-kh8yl2lr7v
      @user-kh8yl2lr7v 2 месяца назад

      It will return again. There is a hadith about the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, 1400 years ago, saying that the Arab land will return to meadows and rivers.

  • @cro92_zg50
    @cro92_zg50 2 месяца назад +18

    Awesome! Can you do for the Adriatic Sea

  • @AlfallMap
    @AlfallMap 2 месяца назад +24

    Technically related, but would the existence of Beringia above land cause a supercontinent consisting of the Americas, Africa, and Eurasia?

    • @Kaldisti
      @Kaldisti  2 месяца назад +20

      Indeed, the world was a supercontinent

    • @SquarePancakes
      @SquarePancakes 2 месяца назад +1

      That is very cool

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ 2 месяца назад +7

      Realistically, the world should still be considered a supercontinent, the border between the North American and Eurasian plates is situated pretty deep into Russia in the Chersky range. Definitions of past supercontinents seem to ignore the presence of epicontinental seas so to keep things consistent it makes sense for the present too, especially considering that it periodically is dry land. Camellids are a great illustration of the supercontinental nature of our current world geography, they originated in North America (later to be wiped out by humans) and walked to South America, Eurasia, and Africa to become Llamas and Alpacas, and Bactrian and Dromedary camels. And then of course the very isolated continents of Australia and Zealandia along with some other isolated microcontinents contain very unique biologies compared to the rest which are connected (and Antarctica is too inhospitable to contain much of anything).

    • @Auroral_Anomaly
      @Auroral_Anomaly 2 месяца назад

      @@KaldistiOh you didn’t you d-😂🤣

    • @Auroral_Anomaly
      @Auroral_Anomaly 2 месяца назад

      Except australia and antarctica.

  • @CRMVlogs126
    @CRMVlogs126 2 месяца назад +13

    I bet you put a lot of effort to do these interesting videos. You deserve being subscribed! 😁

  • @Baard5Szomoru
    @Baard5Szomoru 2 месяца назад +1

    Love these videos Kaldisti is a mastermind:)

  • @wolfywolves
    @wolfywolves 2 месяца назад +1

    Hey, can you please make a climate history video for Vancouver, Canada?

  • @awedelen1
    @awedelen1 2 месяца назад

    Very cool. I think it would be neat to see a moving shoreline map like this for the Mississippi river delta. 😊

  • @olisomething
    @olisomething 2 месяца назад +5

    you should do the White Sea Next!

  • @gate8475
    @gate8475 2 месяца назад +3

    Super video, its absolutely fascinating to see that the sea level was actually higher that current one, thats actually what I always wanted to know, is todays sea level the highest we ever had, or was it even higher at some points in history, this shows it was.
    I from an island in Adriatic that used to be mountain top during ice age. Its fascinating to know that my island was a mountain then island again, and then mountain, back and forth, so cool, if you could do Adriatic Sea, or Mediterranean in general, that would be great

    • @Kaldisti
      @Kaldisti  2 месяца назад +3

      Sea level was even 300 meters above the current one at Cretaceous era x)

    • @gate8475
      @gate8475 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Kaldisti That is just crazy, thank you, Im intrigued now even more, gonna have to research little bit, I really hope you make a video about that😀
      Btw the video you made about asteroid impact was absolutely unique, i watched it several times, keep up the good work

    • @lucaslima9792
      @lucaslima9792 Месяц назад

      ​@@gate8475Well, the earth was hotter and the shape the continents were in thanks to continental drift must have made this " nonsense " happen.

  • @jcwarlock
    @jcwarlock 2 месяца назад +4

    With all the models you have generated, have you ever considered an expansion/subduction model?

    • @Kaldisti
      @Kaldisti  2 месяца назад +1

      I don't have the skill for this, but I'd like so much to

  • @suhnih4076
    @suhnih4076 2 месяца назад +13

    It’s believed this is where the Garden of Eden was located but idk i wasn’t there

  • @ikengaspirit3063
    @ikengaspirit3063 2 месяца назад +5

    Is there any study on the changes of sea level of the Niger Delta?.

    • @Kaldisti
      @Kaldisti  2 месяца назад +9

      I found this :
      Evolution of the Niger Delta Margin during the Late Pleistocene-Holocene: New palynological evidence (2015)
      by : Onema Adojoh, Fabienne Marret, Robert A. Duller, Peter Osterloff

  • @Auroral_Anomaly
    @Auroral_Anomaly 2 месяца назад +2

    Next time think about the timeline of the messinian salinity crisis, it would be interesting to see the climate and flooding simulations.

  • @gunguir9264
    @gunguir9264 2 месяца назад +8

    Would it be possible to animate the glaciation of most of Greenland around 2.6 million years ago?
    Based on the article "Reconstructing the evolution of ice sheets, sea level, and atmospheric CO2 during the past 3.6 million years", it looks like it might be possible to create an animation of the Greenland ice sheet up to 3.6 million years ago and show the process of how most of Greenland got glaciated during that period of time.
    Also hoping the Lost Worlds #5 is on Doggerland :)

  • @DanielZamora-ct8eg
    @DanielZamora-ct8eg 14 часов назад

    Make an In Real Time Simulation video for the Deniliquin Impact Crater in Australia.
    It's 520 KM wide, bigger than the Vredefort Impact Crater in size, and 417 - 525 Million Years old.
    Studies into it began in 2022 and the Deniliquin Impact Site was announced late last year in 2023.

  • @TheBestOfSweden
    @TheBestOfSweden Месяц назад

    Can you make an Aitken impact real time scenario on Earth?

  • @user-kh8yl2lr7v
    @user-kh8yl2lr7v 2 месяца назад +1

    There is a hadith about the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, 1400 years ago, who said that the land of the Arabs would return to meadows and rivers

  • @Corvusfromcentaura
    @Corvusfromcentaura Месяц назад +1

    We really need a new impact in real time video

  • @aperson1139
    @aperson1139 2 месяца назад +2

    why are the name of the rivers written in a weird way?

    • @santiagodemarco547
      @santiagodemarco547 2 месяца назад +4

      In Arabic.

    • @mustafahasan957
      @mustafahasan957 2 месяца назад +5

      Tigers and Euphrates in arabic
      دجلة والفرات
      in north corner
      and small rivers "valleys today" in the south

  • @rafaelcea2072
    @rafaelcea2072 2 месяца назад

    Please do Zealandia

  • @Anwoo
    @Anwoo 2 месяца назад +2

    How about floods in East asia

  • @muhammadikhwannurrosyidin8371
    @muhammadikhwannurrosyidin8371 Месяц назад

    request glaciation of the new guinea(papua)

    • @Kaldisti
      @Kaldisti  Месяц назад +1

      already did (Sahul)

  • @ListenbourgBall
    @ListenbourgBall 2 месяца назад

    Imagine your fish in that river and you see water just forming sround you

  • @muhammadikhwannurrosyidin8371
    @muhammadikhwannurrosyidin8371 Месяц назад

    Why aren't the Zagros mountains all given white spots because of glaciation? The Zagros mountains should be high enough to form glaciers in the ice age

    • @Kaldisti
      @Kaldisti  Месяц назад

      yeah cold enough but definitely too dry in this area

  • @badpiggies988
    @badpiggies988 2 месяца назад

    So that’s where the great flood story comes from

    • @user-kh8yl2lr7v
      @user-kh8yl2lr7v Месяц назад

      no

    • @user-kh8yl2lr7v
      @user-kh8yl2lr7v Месяц назад

      There is a big difference between a river flood and a global flood. In addition, the story of the flood appeared throughout
      The world whether it collapses or not.
      The last point is that the texts of ancient civilizations that mentioned the Flood mentioned two important points. The first is the timing of the Hadith of the Flood, which coincided with the timing of
      One in the whole world. The second is that all humans died in the flood and remained
      a very small number.
      There cannot be separate stories about several floods
      Collapsed around the world.

  • @prestigetrachtigsten3179
    @prestigetrachtigsten3179 2 месяца назад

    Noahs flood?

    • @user-kh8yl2lr7v
      @user-kh8yl2lr7v 2 месяца назад

      Noah's flood was global and in one moment, as the Qur'an says, and anyone who tries to link this matter to a river bursting is wrong

  • @Tx_Cancri
    @Tx_Cancri 2 месяца назад

    The great flood of noah is real?

    • @Kaldisti
      @Kaldisti  2 месяца назад +3

      rapid sea level rise probably was the origin myth of the Flood indeed

    • @Tx_Cancri
      @Tx_Cancri 2 месяца назад

      @@Kaldisti nah I think it happened in the black sea Bc the ark of noah is in turkey

  • @Egyptyan_Empire_1003
    @Egyptyan_Empire_1003 2 месяца назад +2

    Saudi Syria Iran Uae Qatar bahrain oman kuwati vs ocean 🌊🗿

  • @PLUTONIUM1228
    @PLUTONIUM1228 2 месяца назад

    maybe thats a origin of the great flood myth

    • @user-kh8yl2lr7v
      @user-kh8yl2lr7v 2 месяца назад

      So why is it widespread among all civilizations when there are cultures that did not live near rivers and see a flood and talk about the myth of a flood?

  • @sarimundaryatiningsih2
    @sarimundaryatiningsih2 2 месяца назад

    Gn

  • @luki7614
    @luki7614 2 месяца назад

    ngl when oil arc is the worst part of the series

  • @AliOstadnasrallh
    @AliOstadnasrallh 2 месяца назад +1

    خلیج فارس

  • @user-ox5kw7mz5r
    @user-ox5kw7mz5r 2 месяца назад

    persian gulf❤❤

  • @Samstarlight2025
    @Samstarlight2025 2 месяца назад +3

    الخليج العربي وليس الخليج الفارسي حتى سكان جنوب إيران على المناطق المطلة على الخليج العربي هم من العرب الأحواز وليس من الفرس

    • @RealStalin
      @RealStalin 2 месяца назад +4

      Persian Gulf has never been called "Arabian" gulf, history and truth can not be changed by oil money

    • @Auroral_Anomaly
      @Auroral_Anomaly 2 месяца назад

      They are both different names for the same thing, we shouldn’t make a fuss over it, nobody is mad.

    • @Desfighter1
      @Desfighter1 2 месяца назад

      ​@@RealStalin you cant change Arabian gulf name with the fake Iranian history

    • @Samstarlight2025
      @Samstarlight2025 2 месяца назад +1

      @@RealStalin أنت جاهل وأحمق إسمه الحقيقي منذ فجر التاريخ الخليج العربي منذ زمان السومريين القديمة من أطلق عليه إسم الخليج الفارسي هو الإسكندر المقدوني وكان غريب عن المنطقة حتى الفرس في العصور القديمة كانو يسمونه الخليج العربي أو خليج البصرة صديقي العزيز إقراء التاريخ جيدا واضح أنك شخص أحمق وجاهل فتعلم قبل أن تتكلم وإلى فاصمت

    • @user-ox5kw7mz5r
      @user-ox5kw7mz5r 2 месяца назад +2

      persian gulf❤🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷

  • @KevinTyree-sk5fi
    @KevinTyree-sk5fi 13 дней назад

    Obnoxious music

  • @DingoAteMeBaby
    @DingoAteMeBaby 2 месяца назад +10

    wonder how many ruins are hidden beneath the waves

    • @salvadorhenriquez4091
      @salvadorhenriquez4091 2 месяца назад +1

      Probably not a lot because humans didn't construct in that time durable building, or at least building that could not withstand large presence of water

  • @Pepek94
    @Pepek94 2 месяца назад +1

    Next: Evolution of Baltic Sea.

    • @Auroral_Anomaly
      @Auroral_Anomaly 2 месяца назад +1

      He’s done several videos on the effects of the ice age on Europa with Baltic included.