@@relativenormality Shows it's a 1968 PA-28R-180 with an IO-360 engine, the cowl flaps I think were added from a kit. Mostly from what I found Arrow III/IV have them since they are turbo.
I saw videos where it was mentioned that the fuel pump should not be on during engine start but just for priming. Does it actually make a difference if you turn off the fuel pump after the engine starts or just before it?
any tips on a hot start? I flew today and filled up, and started straight away, but it couldn't go. we also do priming different at my club -pump on -mixture rich till movement in flow -mixture close -throttle a crack open (after half open for prime) -start and mixture to half straight away -then full when engine bites I'm just not sure whether to prime or to do the hot start procedure of open throttle etc which doesn't work
Hot starts are notoriously hard on the IO-360, suggestion is to hit the fuelpump, leave throttle back, start cranking, and as it comes alive, you slowly ease the mixture in
Our PA28 hot start is the following, and works perfectly: - Battery ON - Throttle FULL - Mixture Cut-off - Magento start - When the engine is starting up, throttle to 1.000rpm and mixture full Then you can continue with ALT, radio/freq, lights....
@@cembo92 That's what I call a flood start. Hot start for me is throttle cracked a little , mixture off, then crank and mixture to full with start. A cold start is throttle cracked, mixture full, short boost with fuel pump, then crank.
My checklist says to engage with the throttle a little bit opened (like an inch). You don't do that in this video (throttle is all cut when you engage). Al the other is the same... What do you think of this? Greetings from Argentina
I am not finding fault but you missed a vitally important thing.(make sure you select left fuel tank)this is what happens when people don’t use the check list ..you forget things. Hence Engine failure on take off through fuel starvation .
Both tanks should be full or close to equal in fuel quantity before flying... so you select either tank for start up and on runup you swap tanks. This ensures both tanks are in working order and the engine won't quit on you when you swap tanks.
This video inspires me to become a pilot, thank you very much for showing this so whenever I own a piperCherokee180 I will know how to start it .
I don’t believe this would be appropriate for a Cherokee 180. Completely different engine (carbureted vs fuel injected)
I've flown quite a few arrows old and new...never saw cowl flaps on any of them...cool!
Me too - I wonder what model this is
@@relativenormality Shows it's a 1968 PA-28R-180 with an IO-360 engine, the cowl flaps I think were added from a kit. Mostly from what I found Arrow III/IV have them since they are turbo.
@@miked7137 I assume they got rid of them on newer models by having better general cooling vents
Damn, you make it all look so easy...
With the new msfs piper 3 release, i expect youll get a surge of views here
In my opinion, the best GA aircraft in the game that's been released so far.
I just discovered "Aerofly flight sim 2" on pc and definitely recommend it. People compare and prefer it to Msfs in many ways. Check it out.
I saw videos where it was mentioned that the fuel pump should not be on during engine start but just for priming. Does it actually make a difference if you turn off the fuel pump after the engine starts or just before it?
Thanks. Quite diferrent from the Cherokee. I was wondering if the MSFS2020 was correct... and it was
...and i definitely saw a checklist in your lap, lol
Cause he’s doing a start up procedure duh
@@tannerlane9669 was said in jest he should've had one. Duh
Realy??then why didn’t he make sure the fuel selector was on left tank.. another armchair pilot..
After engine start up should you not put 1000rpm to avoid fouling of spark plugs ? that what we do in a lot of reciprocating aircraft engine !
any tips on a hot start? I flew today and filled up, and started straight away, but it couldn't go. we also do priming different at my club
-pump on
-mixture rich till movement in flow
-mixture close
-throttle a crack open (after half open for prime)
-start and mixture to half straight away
-then full when engine bites
I'm just not sure whether to prime or to do the hot start procedure of open throttle etc which doesn't work
Hot starts are notoriously hard on the IO-360, suggestion is to hit the fuelpump, leave throttle back, start cranking, and as it comes alive, you slowly ease the mixture in
Our PA28 hot start is the following, and works perfectly:
- Battery ON
- Throttle FULL
- Mixture Cut-off
- Magento start
- When the engine is starting up, throttle to 1.000rpm and mixture full
Then you can continue with ALT, radio/freq, lights....
@@cembo92 That's what I call a flood start. Hot start for me is throttle cracked a little , mixture off, then crank and mixture to full with start. A cold start is throttle cracked, mixture full, short boost with fuel pump, then crank.
My checklist says to engage with the throttle a little bit opened (like an inch). You don't do that in this video (throttle is all cut when you engage). Al the other is the same... What do you think of this? Greetings from Argentina
That's what we do in spain too in PA28, 1/2 inch throttle before set full forward propeller
@@tebans88 same. The one I flew would turn off it you had throttle closed on ground
Yes
Is this a standard arrow or a turbo arrow?
Forget to turn on Beacon light before engine start or i miss that ?
it was on already (2nd switch from the right not including the instrument lighting knob)
Is that plane injected?
Yes
you certainly would never start one like that from cold
Needs new battery
I am not finding fault but you missed a vitally important thing.(make sure you select left fuel tank)this is what happens when people don’t use the check list ..you forget things. Hence Engine failure on take off through fuel starvation .
Why? U can select either based on whatever is the emptiest
Both tanks should be full or close to equal in fuel quantity before flying... so you select either tank for start up and on runup you swap tanks. This ensures both tanks are in working order and the engine won't quit on you when you swap tanks.
In the PoH for the arrow I fly it says "select the desired tank with fuel selector valve" no mention of left or right.
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