Helps that he's easy to build too, im liking how they've been adding Crit stats in DPS kits like Jingliu, DHIL and now Argneti it makes building em so much easier when compared to characters like Seele.
@@astsophia For real, i got double crit substats on all my relic pieces for her but they mostly low rolled so im still sitting at around 30% base crit rate, 16% from Herta's LC and 8% from RA. i can't even get enough to make Rutilant's passive activate she's so hard to build.
People really overexaggerated his high cost ult. That is just 40-50 more energy than other limited destructions/eruditions. With his talent kicking in, his energy will regen by itself. Ofcourse he is erudition so pick your battles. His burst on one enemy remaining is still bonkers, just the enhanced ult takes time to charge.
@@tenderpuppeteer Again, that would be kinda pointless because in Genshin, the whole team gains energy together. And most ULTs in Genshin are spam heavy regardless
Technically childe’s ult is kinda similar since his melee burst costs more energy in a sense that it doesn’t refund energy and it does more dmg than his ranged burst
its just so fun and refreshing imo to be walking around the overworld as this knight in full armor with glowing red hair lol. he looks so distinct and unique and his attack animation actually feels very heavy and satisfying idk. love this character
im honestly planning to use an atk rope bcs his passive gives him such a big amount of flat energy to the point where the 8 or so more energy you get from a skill with an err rope isnt worth to me compaired to just making him deal more dmg
@@mikonyx7712 ngl i’m pretty sure he’d still be doomposted to hell even if he was destruction just because he’s a dude. If he and hanya had each others kits then i’m effin certain none of this doomposting would’ve even happened 😂
For what theorycrafters i watch said err rope is not as good as attack. The reason is that no matter what err he is he still needs similar amount of turns to get his ultimate back. I think its only effective to use energy regen when you use both huohuo and e6 tingyun for 2 turn 180 ultimate.
I'm having more fun on him than I thought! Hunt spam in regular Sim Universe is amazing, but doesn't seem to work as well in Swarm, anyone got suggestions for a good path for him in Swarm 5? Love your vids!
you can try elation with an ultimate as a follow-up, or stay on hunt but get def blessings and unlock all path resonances, you can also try def as a main on preservation, destruction or abundance
@@meriwidget3474If you happen to come across "Auspicious Star" which is a 2 star hunt blessing, he will get most of his energy back instantly when he kills enemies, and full energy if upgraded. He's incredibly cracked with that blessing.
Yeah, I agree with the other replies, for now there's not one path that's THE one for Argenti, but I do have to say Hunt's 60-100% Energy on kill and the 100% advance forwards do help him a lot when it comes to spamming his Ult. Luckily we'll soon get the Erudition Path, which seems to be completely centered around Ult damage
ERR only good if you dont have huo huo for a two turn ult (consistent 3 turn ult) and if you are not using tingyun with him for some reason, and although it can vary depending on the situation, even then, I think attack rope is just a bit better and so much easier to farm if you are not lucky enough for a ER rope with crit subs (and lucky enough to even get ER rope lmao)
@@streamhellofutureforclearskin I recommend you to get her spd to 134 ideally, and I use a basic skill basic or basic basic skill rotation on her (and in some rare cases of using her skill twice if the enemies decided to be quirky and attack the same ally haha)
@@cloroxknights8175 do you think it would be bad to have her on 152 spd? i have her using the 4pc hacker set with spd feet and a bunch of spd substats, but i think it's messing with her skill rotation since she have 2 turns per cycle.
@@streamhellofutureforclearskin does your huo huo already solo sustain your team with your current build? If so then it should be fine to have her high on speed, in fact I think that is quite good, especially when you get extra turns in a cycle and may slot in an extra skill point or two for your team, more spd = more actions and more actions = to more skill points and frequent ults is how I look at it and so, you can still follow through her rotations even with high speeds.
Argenti's best 4 PC based relic set is without a doubt the champion. It gives physical boost and also gives a permanent 25% attack boost at 5 stacks which furthermore goes even more nuts through his Apotheosis trait
5:20 Mathematically speaking the chance of zero positive results would be: 10,011% In contrast, the chance of 8 positive results (8 rolls were possible, taking into account, that it was a 3-line piece) would be: 0,002% Generally speaking, according to math, expecting 1-3 rolls of a specific substat in a span of 8 rolls would be the most realistic as it is statistically the most likely with an accumulated chance of 78,607%
It's because condense in genshin wields you up to 12 purple books and a bunch of red. In hsr it's barely 6 purples for 6 battles [60 resin]. That's just fking awful in general. Tbh if I'm spending 60 resin for mats/credits I expect MORE to compensate for the high cost. Especially when their talents take say.. 12 purple swords for example yet I can't even get 1...
The longer Star rail goes on , the more I think they shouldn't have separated single target DPS and aoe DPS. There should just be destruction (tank (with some DPS)) and DPS (hunt and erudition being one path).
I think Argenti as a character is interesting and his animations are fun. But since I already have Clara there isn't really a need for me to pull for him, but can be a pretty good carry for new players or someone that doesn't have AoE dps.
I dont get it why did they do jing yuan so bad i pulled for him and his lightcone and he hits nowhere near this unfulliy raised argenti i used 25 fuels and i have god tier artifacts i hate it
My JY can clear all content at the same speed as my Argenti and Triple Harmony Herta. Maybe you just need better sub stats on your JY or max traces. I only build and use Erudition units and I think JY is fine as is.
I lost my 50/50 to himeko. Ive lost every 50/50. I’ve been playing since the game came out. I have 2 limited characters Seele and fu xuan ALL MY DPS’S ARE SINGLE TARGET I NEEDED ARGENTI HELP ME
I feel the pain so much seeing you struggle with rolling for crit rate substat:") he's on 187 cd and 32 cr rn😔 idk what's with him and cr, thankfully he has cr related talent, otherwise i'm fucked lmao
i got silver wolf instead so i will most likely be skipping our beautiful man for blades rerun T-T but he looks very fun to play I hope everyone won their 50/50s!!! Edit: I GOT HIMEKOS LC ON STANDARD NOOOOOOO!!! i don't have himeko can anyone else use this lc efficiently or is it just staying at level 1?
I only had 2 10 pulls saved, was on a guaranteed and low pity. Pulled Argenti. Low pity and non guaranteed. Did my last 10 pull on lc banner and won the 50 50
@himmerukey sw is good for new players or those that don’t have the brute force characters (saving their mats). She also looks to be the best partner for dr. ratio.
@@nanasnanamin3164 if that new player don’t want argenti or 1.6 characters, going for sw is a still a decent choice. physical mc can carry you for a long way (until there’s a new dps that you want). you can even go mono physical with mc, sw, natasha and hanya. Which is one side of MoC prepared already.
I opened a new id Got huo huo in 50/50 Got clara from Departure Got Bronya from Standard Got Argenti in 50 pulls😂 Got E6 Asta too 😂😂 TL35 btw 7day Progress
@@el.gato.well i did save 140 pulls for huo huo and argenti but me being too lucky i only got huohuo after losing 50-50 too bailu , i satrted playing hsr when jingliu banner was about to end an lost 50-50 every time to only yanqing so i now have e2 yanqing . and i just commented here to see what will happen even though i knew that nothing is going to happen but just thought its christmas time so moga might gift me for content
Midgenti, hard skip, even arlan does more damage with lower investment. Completely worthless unit. I would rather save my pulls for an actually good unit.
im am honestly surprised about how much i like him. he is very fun
Helps that he's easy to build too, im liking how they've been adding Crit stats in DPS kits like Jingliu, DHIL and now Argneti it makes building em so much easier when compared to characters like Seele.
@@jackjohnson8305the fact that seele has crit dmg traces and no crit rate passive makes her so annoying
@@astsophia For real, i got double crit substats on all my relic pieces for her but they mostly low rolled so im still sitting at around 30% base crit rate, 16% from Herta's LC and 8% from RA.
i can't even get enough to make Rutilant's passive activate she's so hard to build.
@@jackjohnson8305you get another 16% from the lc if enemy is below 50%
And his animations are SO smooth too. 3-parted monologue in full ult got my top-tear.
People really overexaggerated his high cost ult. That is just 40-50 more energy than other limited destructions/eruditions. With his talent kicking in, his energy will regen by itself. Ofcourse he is erudition so pick your battles. His burst on one enemy remaining is still bonkers, just the enhanced ult takes time to charge.
argenti is quite the fun i wonder if genshin would have a character that utilize the double charged ult
Probably not considering you can get your ult really quickly with the right team and enough ER
@@wijinsama i'm talking about ult that changes depending on how much it charged up and argenti provides us both variants
@@tenderpuppeteer Again, that would be kinda pointless because in Genshin, the whole team gains energy together. And most ULTs in Genshin are spam heavy regardless
would probably be difficult in genshin, but i think Raiden's gameplay is pretty similar
Technically childe’s ult is kinda similar since his melee burst costs more energy in a sense that it doesn’t refund energy and it does more dmg than his ranged burst
its just so fun and refreshing imo to be walking around the overworld as this knight in full armor with glowing red hair lol. he looks so distinct and unique and his attack animation actually feels very heavy and satisfying idk. love this character
im honestly planning to use an atk rope bcs his passive gives him such a big amount of flat energy to the point where the 8 or so more energy you get from a skill with an err rope isnt worth to me compaired to just making him deal more dmg
you'd be correct, ERR rope is a massive dmg loss on him usually
I tried both and err rope really doesn’t make much of a difference atk rope is the way to go
his kit is fun for me 😂 almost didn’t pull him because people were saying he was bad but i did his trial and it was fun
People REALLY tried very hard to doompost him before his release just because his erudition and not destruction 😮💨
@@mikonyx7712 ngl i’m pretty sure he’d still be doomposted to hell even if he was destruction just because he’s a dude. If he and hanya had each others kits then i’m effin certain none of this doomposting would’ve even happened 😂
I already seen Leaks of his dmg being really high from ult but I call any male unit Mid. Can’t say the rest for the other people calling him mid
@@fishbol478Fr, like if he were a woman, them brainless simps would be slobbering no matter how bad the damage.
@@mikonyx7712 fr i saw people say herta was stronger than him 😅 but he seems better than her
For what theorycrafters i watch said err rope is not as good as attack. The reason is that no matter what err he is he still needs similar amount of turns to get his ultimate back. I think its only effective to use energy regen when you use both huohuo and e6 tingyun for 2 turn 180 ultimate.
I'm having more fun on him than I thought! Hunt spam in regular Sim Universe is amazing, but doesn't seem to work as well in Swarm, anyone got suggestions for a good path for him in Swarm 5? Love your vids!
U can use elation path and try to get ult=followup attack card 😊
you can try elation with an ultimate as a follow-up, or stay on hunt but get def blessings and unlock all path resonances, you can also try def as a main on preservation, destruction or abundance
Oo thanks both of you, I didn't think of that card making Elation worth it.
@@meriwidget3474If you happen to come across "Auspicious Star" which is a 2 star hunt blessing, he will get most of his energy back instantly when he kills enemies, and full energy if upgraded.
He's incredibly cracked with that blessing.
Yeah, I agree with the other replies, for now there's not one path that's THE one for Argenti, but I do have to say Hunt's 60-100% Energy on kill and the 100% advance forwards do help him a lot when it comes to spamming his Ult.
Luckily we'll soon get the Erudition Path, which seems to be completely centered around Ult damage
ERR only good if you dont have huo huo for a two turn ult (consistent 3 turn ult) and if you are not using tingyun with him for some reason, and although it can vary depending on the situation, even then, I think attack rope is just a bit better and so much easier to farm if you are not lucky enough for a ER rope with crit subs (and lucky enough to even get ER rope lmao)
what speed should huohuo be? and what sp rotation are you using on huohuo?
@@streamhellofutureforclearskin I recommend you to get her spd to 134 ideally, and I use a basic skill basic or basic basic skill rotation on her (and in some rare cases of using her skill twice if the enemies decided to be quirky and attack the same ally haha)
@@cloroxknights8175 do you think it would be bad to have her on 152 spd? i have her using the 4pc hacker set with spd feet and a bunch of spd substats, but i think it's messing with her skill rotation since she have 2 turns per cycle.
@@streamhellofutureforclearskin does your huo huo already solo sustain your team with your current build? If so then it should be fine to have her high on speed, in fact I think that is quite good, especially when you get extra turns in a cycle and may slot in an extra skill point or two for your team, more spd = more actions and more actions = to more skill points and frequent ults is how I look at it and so, you can still follow through her rotations even with high speeds.
Eula's back baby!!!
Hanya also shares her va. 😂
Man i really wanted to get him but i ended up getting E1 Welt instead, gotta save that guarantee for Ruan Mei it just wasn't meant to be.
same i'm so sad i lost to welt
My luck was crazy I got yangqing then argenti on same pull. Pulled a again and got gepard lol. Saving for ruan mei now
The reason on how is decent on single target. Is because his full ult deal two type of damage (full aoe and bounce).
Will you redo this when the erudition path is out moga?
jing yuans lc can be a pretty good one for argenti so perhaps both peaceful day and jings lc in god mode or in a different quick video?
Peaceful Day S5 is much better
nah jing yuan lc is no good on argenti the crit damage stat is good but the lc buff follow up attack which argenti doesn’t do
@@el.gato. It also increases and Skill and Ult DMG by 18%
Argenti's best 4 PC based relic set is without a doubt the champion. It gives physical boost and also gives a permanent 25% attack boost at 5 stacks which furthermore goes even more nuts through his Apotheosis trait
5:20
Mathematically speaking the chance of zero positive results would be: 10,011%
In contrast, the chance of 8 positive results (8 rolls were possible, taking into account, that it was a 3-line piece)
would be: 0,002%
Generally speaking, according to math, expecting 1-3 rolls of a specific substat in a span of 8 rolls would be the most realistic
as it is statistically the most likely with an accumulated chance of 78,607%
Im having massive problem getting enough exp materials. In Genshin its so easy but here im struggling so hard .
my brotha you can put your game in auto battle and go do other stuff wdym struggling
@rogn8719 they're not talking abt the difficulty but how hard it is to maintain them cuz me personally i always scrape by in hsr
It's because condense in genshin wields you up to 12 purple books and a bunch of red. In hsr it's barely 6 purples for 6 battles [60 resin]. That's just fking awful in general. Tbh if I'm spending 60 resin for mats/credits I expect MORE to compensate for the high cost. Especially when their talents take say.. 12 purple swords for example yet I can't even get 1...
The longer Star rail goes on , the more I think they shouldn't have separated single target DPS and aoe DPS. There should just be destruction (tank (with some DPS)) and DPS (hunt and erudition being one path).
"Where you goin?" got me dying I swear *wheezing*
Why would you use his skill before his burst when his ult is ready? You just waste energy as he has all the same buffs anyway
He was the first character I ever had all mats ready
I managed to win 2 50/50s
Sw and Huo Huo
And i kinda wanna get him now
But at the same time I think i should save up or idk
Having a hard time
I think Argenti as a character is interesting and his animations are fun. But since I already have Clara there isn't really a need for me to pull for him, but can be a pretty good carry for new players or someone that doesn't have AoE dps.
Considering that yukong always uses burst with no stacks in auto fight auto argenti not using burst instantly was suprising
I loveee Argenti he is so fun to use mine did 2.8 mil 💪
He’s hot thats what I think
I have him e0 and his signature light cone. All I can say is he is a destruction, not an erudition
I'm new to HSR so this was more of a learning video for me 😅
Bro Sim uni gotta go crazy with elation on his ult
Er rope us a bait only usable in farming. Use atk%
When ur about to fail simulated just ALT F4 ull restart on the battle u were in
he is beauty
The order of speed should be this:
Tingyun
Bronya
Argenti
Huo huo
That Boi so majestic 😩
Courage passive is literally C1 diluc con
Got E1 bronya ..still a Win but at what cost :(
Apotheosis is pronounced App-off-e-oh-sis for future reference
moga will you play reverse 1999? its a new game and it’s really creative with its characters and voice acting :)
Imagine if they made a whole path for sim universe that is all about aoe *wink*
boy do i have news for you
I dont get it why did they do jing yuan so bad i pulled for him and his lightcone and he hits nowhere near this unfulliy raised argenti i used 25 fuels and i have god tier artifacts i hate it
You have to take into consideration the damage dealt by LL since that is his main gimmick, just like the 180cost ult for Argenti
@@thornszk i considered ligtning lord
My JY can clear all content at the same speed as my Argenti and Triple Harmony Herta. Maybe you just need better sub stats on your JY or max traces. I only build and use Erudition units and I think JY is fine as is.
Try getting high speed with Jing Yuan
My argenti team is luocha, argenti, hanya, and tingyun. I would replace luocha with huohuo if i had her
I maxed mine 10|10|10 first day
I lost my 50/50 to himeko. Ive lost every 50/50. I’ve been playing since the game came out. I have 2 limited characters Seele and fu xuan ALL MY DPS’S ARE SINGLE TARGET I NEEDED ARGENTI HELP ME
hey moga what are your thoughts on tower of fantasy "2" i never got into that game myself?
Great auto farmer as well group with huo huo and tingyun he just spams ults
The way you threw away 2 modeling resin on a terrible stat on an off-piece was so hard to watch ngl lol
I feel the pain so much seeing you struggle with rolling for crit rate substat:") he's on 187 cd and 32 cr rn😔 idk what's with him and cr, thankfully he has cr related talent, otherwise i'm fucked lmao
The fact that you have three standard banner 5 stars below level 50 makes my f2p heart bleed
But keep up the good content!
i got silver wolf instead so i will most likely be skipping our beautiful man for blades rerun T-T but he looks very fun to play I hope everyone won their 50/50s!!!
Edit: I GOT HIMEKOS LC ON STANDARD NOOOOOOO!!! i don't have himeko can anyone else use this lc efficiently or is it just staying at level 1?
uh a good choice for argenti if u dont have his sig lc or his bis bp 4* lc at s5 cuz the atk buff is big on many enemies plus the break bonus
Don’t use er rope on him lol
I love eula❤
I only had 2 10 pulls saved, was on a guaranteed and low pity. Pulled Argenti. Low pity and non guaranteed. Did my last 10 pull on lc banner and won the 50 50
Me with max out traces 😂
the way he is pronouncing apotheosis is triggering me so hard.
A-pah-theo-sis
how about with no support
Who's your main?
you sound like kermit
Argenti is so nice but I think it’s better to bag silverwolf for people who don’t have her
Yup i would consider to go for sw if i didn't get her on her first banner. Really a life saver, she's almost constant in all my teams
@himmerukey sw is good for new players or those that don’t have the brute force characters (saving their mats). She also looks to be the best partner for dr. ratio.
@himmerukeyyeah i don’t have her and or pela and im still doing good
@@Gummeyynew players better pull for Argenti. Sw cant carry you know it right
@@nanasnanamin3164 if that new player don’t want argenti or 1.6 characters, going for sw is a still a decent choice. physical mc can carry you for a long way (until there’s a new dps that you want). you can even go mono physical with mc, sw, natasha and hanya. Which is one side of MoC prepared already.
Pls don't use hanya with him, just stick with tingyun huohuo and bronya
Slay
While argenti looks amazing, my Tingyun is already busy in my Jingliu team
I opened a new id
Got huo huo in 50/50
Got clara from Departure
Got Bronya from Standard
Got Argenti in 50 pulls😂
Got E6 Asta too 😂😂
TL35 btw
7day Progress
@Moga pls buy me argenti
ew begger
beggar
just save? i skip 1.3 and 1.4 and i manage to get about 90 wishes for him
@@el.gato.well i did save 140 pulls for huo huo and argenti but me being too lucky i only got huohuo after losing 50-50 too bailu , i satrted playing hsr when jingliu banner was about to end an lost 50-50 every time to only yanqing so i now have e2 yanqing . and i just commented here to see what will happen even though i knew that nothing is going to happen but just thought its christmas time so moga might gift me for content
Ez skip?
I got him and his Lightcone - He is soooo fun to play and I’m still trying to aim for E1 but I’m f2p but I guess if U love him it’s worth it 🥹❤️
he is very strong and fun to use but i want jingyuan's lightcone more. we'll meet again argenti🥲
Midgenti, hard skip, even arlan does more damage with lower investment. Completely worthless unit. I would rather save my pulls for an actually good unit.
bruh
bait used to be believable