There aren’t any good excuses for forgetting the 4p set effect while it’s flashing on screen like 100 times lmao. I’m sorry :( Sometimes it’s the most obvious things that are the easiest to overlook.
@@Antigen__ Not necessarily. The crit stats fit everything. Destruction attracts people to hit you based on aggro values like Clara, so the buff can be gotten pretty easily. And Destruction characters will want some natural bulk. Not a full set of HP mainstats obviously, but at the least, like one piece of health or something. Destruction is the "bruiser archtype," so whether its a HP scaler or DEF scaler or ATK scaler, you will want some bulk on them. So it will find its way onto someone.
At least in Genshin, you can have one off-set piece, but here it's impossible if you want the set bonus, which makes it so much harder to build characters
You can also run him on an HP% orb, it's like 3% behind WindDMG% and actually 3% ahead if you play him with Bronya. Just in case you had an HP% orb with great subs laying around.
@@idonotmakevidsyet HP orb is objectively better than Wind DMG, especially if you have Crit DMG body. HP affects everything else. Wind DMG only affects damage, go figure.
It's not misinformation, MrPokke has a Blade unit analysis with all the CN bros' analysis on which relics and mainstats are better in which scenario. If you have Bronya, she provides enough bonus damage with her E and ult that a wind damage orb would have diminishing returns compared to having a hp% orb. Don't just assume without doing research first.
@@idonotmakevidsyet To be fair I don't know that 3% is the exact number but it's in that ballpark I'm pretty sure. I think it's worse to not inform people who are desperately chasing a WindDMG% orb that HP% is an acceptable substitute in basically all cases, considering they may already have an HP% orb laying around with perfect subs.
If it makes you feel better, thanks to you I also realized the set bonus. I thought I had to wait until the last crit rate trace to hit th threshhold for the planar set, but I already have it with the set bonus
Is that better dmg? I mean i find it hard to believe the 38 % wind dmg is worse then the planetary rendezvous also don’t you need speed to get him faster than bronya so you can go two times?
@@SKAlRIPA blade scale so much of hp that you can run full hp no crit and be good, you loose a little of damage but gain about 1000 hp or more per relic so it's worth it in the end
Thank you for this, I feel happier because everyone is going through the same thing. I've been building Selee for a month, just reached 60/170 and Im not satisfied with that. going to that relic after i have reached lvl 80 for my supports
I got pretty good build for him in a 3 days matter, he's well built (ofc i can improve it ) but he does really good damage so now im gonna focus building other characters
Do the 4pc longevous disciple activate the 2pc effect of the rutilant arena, like I have 57% crit rate on my blade and I have the 4pc longevous disciple that gives 8% crit rate (stackable) and 2 pc rutilant arena, will I able to use the effect of the 2pc rutilant arena?
I got super lucky on my blade set. 84% cr,180cd with 8k hp. Relic scorer gave me a double s so I’m satisfied (it’s 4 piece disciple and 2 piece salsotto)
I used CR body since I don't have his LC and then I gone all out for CD and Hp in other pieces, currently 55%143% my rope is garbage no hp and CD I think I can reach 170-180% CD later if I got better pieces
personally i want blade to be on 60-65 crit rate before set effects so that the crits can be comfier instead of crit fishing im currently on 58% to 160% still farming for a crit damage chest with 1-3 crit rate sub ps. im running secret vow
I was lucky that my first relics were both Crit rate body pieces, with hp substats, But i just can´t get the damn HP boots. I use inert salsotto with him and my second option would be celestial Differenciator if I could get his crit damage high enough to get the bonus. But Rutilant Arena is pretty much made for hunt characters, perfect for Shushang and Dan Heng. Blade´s skill only enhances and doesn't attack so that 20% skill damage doesn´t really do much. I used Inert salsotto because it enhances his ultimate and his follow by 15%, so he does benefit a lot from it.
i still havent farmed longevous disciple a single time cause trace materials are just too damn expensive. i did get some rutilant arena pieces with immersifiers and my first two were literally perfect. granted when i rolled the orb i got a ton of break effect😢
The relic grind can be really annoying 😂 I have mine at 8.8k hp. Decided to go hp orb and crit damage chest. He hits hard now. I was also doing too much crit rate on him. Glad I switched up his build.
I got really lucky in farming blade relic and now my cv is 80ish crit rate and 150 crit dmg i didnt expect to get his light cone so i used the model to get crit rate, now im over flowing with 100% crit if in battle
I just got blade today, used all my free to play special pass and I got this best in slot orb :D SSS - wind damage - hp - speed - crit damage and break effect :D good luck dude
My Blade has 7551 HP, 67% CR, 167% CDMG, 135 SPD, 0% WindDMG. Still torn if I better go with HP boots and Wind sphere will it be better? But currently no HP boots no Wind sphere so need more farming which is sucks...
I think I need to build another planar/rope set. I saw a lot of people using Arena on him, while I used Inert on him. And I also just realized the buff from relic. So in battle, my Blade has 85/180 😂(could be 85/210 with Bronya).
Don't worry about changing from inert to arena. It seems that for blade, they will be about the same, but you will need less crit rate with salsotto. So maybe just go with the one with better substats
NAH!!! Building jing yuan is more than a nightmare it's been a month, and I haven't got a crit dmg crit rate hat or crit stats on boot (I'm about to losing my mind )
Yeah burned most of resin for him but now some kind of decent build with 7.8k hp 57/164 crit. And thanks to his signature light one, e2 and set bonus I'm almost reach 89 citrate.
Him using that hp boots with double crit as a fodder pained me so much... Speed boots are nice if you don't have Bronya, but if you do have Bronya HP boots can be better.
For boots only, speed might be a bit better but yeah going full HP otherwise is really good. Edit: hold on. I just got to that part of the video? Those boots were double crit!? Oh hell nah! Guy should have kept those!
I am trying to figure out why your Blades hp is so low. Mine has awful relics but I'm at 7.2k hp. Im trying to figure why it is that much lower then mine. I know ideally you want him in the 8k HP range but that seems like it's gonna be super hard.
Have been farming Longevous Disciple since I pulled Blade and for the most part I just got cracked Messenger relics for my Bronya. I'm not complaining but please, at some point I need some crit dmg for Bladie. 😭
Can anyone tell me if why arena is better than inert for blade bc blade does have a follow up atk and a pretty strong ult so i would assume he would benefit more with the two than the arena set
So how do you farm a set this many time and be this invested in it that you know for a fact that you'll use the 4 piece set on blade without knowing what it does?
Depends on which planar set you will go with. If you go Salsotto you can go as low a 50% or even a bit lower crit rate, if you go for Rutilant Arena then you need at least 54% crit so the 4 piece relic set will give you the rest 16% to reach 70% crit rate.
Blade is so far the best dps character overall. He has everything in his kit. Second highest st damage, strongest aoe(surprisingly), sustain. And he is easy to build. Granted weapon choice for him is not great so far. You pretty much need his LC for him to shine.
The fact that he threw an HP boots that has good subs is sad (if you have bronya and equipped blade with HP instead of spd it would be better for him because bronya's turn is blade's turn)
Not exactly that easy. If you run blade with a little more speed like 135 and Bronya 134 (ideally) you can effectively give blade 3 turns (Blade>Bronya[Blade]>Blade) which is extremely good for him and worth the loss of HP boots.
I love your content for both Honkai SR and GI. But.. yeah... I hate the relic grind in Honkai, farming for days, spending extra power for refills.. and none of my chars are .. particularly well geared, bad rolls on EVERYTHING.
Wait... this whole time i thought you had to have a minimum crit rate of 70% on blade BEFORE BATTLE to activate the effect from the rutilant arena set, but it activates later with the extra 16% given by the longevis disciple set in battle?!... my life has been a lie
Farming for Arena for Blade is very confusing. Inert Salsatto just gives him more damage compared to Arena especially since a majority of blade's damage come from him follow-up and ultimate.
Ruliant is only like ~2% better than Salsotto at E0 but starting at E1 salsotto pulls ahead. You’d run ruliant because farming world 7 gives you two good sets instead if world 5 which gives you a shit set and a good set
Lol no, where did you even get that info, or you were building him wrong almost half the damage he does comes from his basic and the other half are almost equal from follow up and ult
@@kaido8452 I did my own calculations using the damage calculator. Many youtubers have also shown that his main damage comes from ult and follow up. How about you also get some of your research before claiming my info is incorrect?
There aren’t any good excuses for forgetting the 4p set effect while it’s flashing on screen like 100 times lmao. I’m sorry :( Sometimes it’s the most obvious things that are the easiest to overlook.
I thought the set said crit dmg the first time I readed it😓😓😓
At the least you now have gear for other Destruction characters. This is the destruction set after all, so you're ready for the next one.
“Sister, their not laughing with you, their laughing AT you…”
@@joshsolders5543as long as they do self damage and scale with HP lmao
@@Antigen__ Not necessarily. The crit stats fit everything. Destruction attracts people to hit you based on aggro values like Clara, so the buff can be gotten pretty easily. And Destruction characters will want some natural bulk. Not a full set of HP mainstats obviously, but at the least, like one piece of health or something. Destruction is the "bruiser archtype," so whether its a HP scaler or DEF scaler or ATK scaler, you will want some bulk on them. So it will find its way onto someone.
Building any character in this game is a nightmare right now 😂😂😂
HoYo and their goddamn relics+sub stat rolling is so goddamn painful.
@@Botan_Katou good thing we dont need perfect substats atm to clear all content
And it's worst when you are out of fuel but need 1 more domain resource run to finish a character
@@scurrxfor now yes
In future? No
At least in Genshin, you can have one off-set piece, but here it's impossible if you want the set bonus, which makes it so much harder to build characters
You can also run him on an HP% orb, it's like 3% behind WindDMG% and actually 3% ahead if you play him with Bronya. Just in case you had an HP% orb with great subs laying around.
Hp orb is not 3% ahead with bronya where did you get this misinformation from? Gacha smack?
@@idonotmakevidsyet HP orb is objectively better than Wind DMG, especially if you have Crit DMG body.
HP affects everything else. Wind DMG only affects damage, go figure.
It's not misinformation, MrPokke has a Blade unit analysis with all the CN bros' analysis on which relics and mainstats are better in which scenario. If you have Bronya, she provides enough bonus damage with her E and ult that a wind damage orb would have diminishing returns compared to having a hp% orb. Don't just assume without doing research first.
@@idonotmakevidsyet To be fair I don't know that 3% is the exact number but it's in that ballpark I'm pretty sure. I think it's worse to not inform people who are desperately chasing a WindDMG% orb that HP% is an acceptable substitute in basically all cases, considering they may already have an HP% orb laying around with perfect subs.
Same for hp boots. He makes up for lack of turns with off field dmg and enhanced dmg for 4 turns
If it makes you feel better, thanks to you I also realized the set bonus. I thought I had to wait until the last crit rate trace to hit th threshhold for the planar set, but I already have it with the set bonus
Pair Blade with Bronya and you can completely ignore Wind DMG and SPD on Blade
Give Bronya Planetary Rendezvous and you can run full HP on Blade
I’d rather he go before her with more Spd … and then go AGAIN when she goes after … but that’s just me
Must be nice to have Bronya 😓
Is that better dmg? I mean i find it hard to believe the 38 % wind dmg is worse then the planetary rendezvous also don’t you need speed to get him faster than bronya so you can go two times?
@@SKAlRIPA Wind damage is only 1.5 times better than HP, meaning HP provides way more utility in the form of extra survivability and scaling.
@@SKAlRIPA blade scale so much of hp that you can run full hp no crit and be good, you loose a little of damage but gain about 1000 hp or more per relic so it's worth it in the end
Thank you for this, I feel happier because everyone is going through the same thing. I've been building Selee for a month, just reached 60/170 and Im not satisfied with that. going to that relic after i have reached lvl 80 for my supports
Seeing moga’s relic luck makes me feel better about myself 😂
Seeing that intro and wondering what artifact horrors moga got into this time 🫡
The relic grind 👹
Been doing it for days, got all the relics I wanted on the first day except one 😵
I just can´t seem to get Longevous boots.
@@ithamarlowe6158 You could just make the piece if you have a Self-Modeling Resin (the Make-A-Artifact item) if you don't want to waste TP anymore.
Classic Moga move... 🤣This is too funny.
I wish I got those mainstats/substats in my relics. I only get trash over trash.
I got pretty good build for him in a 3 days matter, he's well built (ofc i can improve it ) but he does really good damage so now im gonna focus building other characters
This is me as well. I found him to be by far the easiest and quickest 5 star to build.
and this is why I love moga’s vids, their relic rng is actually relatable unlike other ccs that get so freaking lucky every single time smh
Do the 4pc longevous disciple activate the 2pc effect of the rutilant arena, like I have 57% crit rate on my blade and I have the 4pc longevous disciple that gives 8% crit rate (stackable) and 2 pc rutilant arena, will I able to use the effect of the 2pc rutilant arena?
57 + 16 = 73 so yea plus if u need to unlock any of his cr traces u may wanna sac some cr for cdmg or hp
@@yami_does_stuff thank you so much for your help!
¨Lets just go through and start with head¨
-Moga
moga, struggling without a good hp rope on the arena set:
me, with 5 hp double crit ropes that i wont use because i dont have blade:
This has been my same experience with trying to build Blade
Im sure he got crazy according to intro
I got super lucky on my blade set. 84% cr,180cd with 8k hp. Relic scorer gave me a double s so I’m satisfied (it’s 4 piece disciple and 2 piece salsotto)
Omg I cried when u threw away the hp boots it’s actually super good on him if you play him w speedy bronya
Yeah I feel you bro, I have been farming Blade's relic for soooo long it is soo hard to get crit rate to roll T_T
I finished my build pretty quickly luckily enough. 61% to 192% without set bonuses. Now I just need a Bronya 😢
a video like this takes me back to your E7 gear video's. loving this content. I' m sorry for your losses but it's good entertainment ;)
I used CR body since I don't have his LC and then I gone all out for CD and Hp in other pieces, currently 55%143% my rope is garbage no hp and CD I think I can reach 170-180% CD later if I got better pieces
personally i want blade to be on 60-65 crit rate before set effects so that the crits can be comfier instead of crit fishing
im currently on 58% to 160% still farming for a crit damage chest with 1-3 crit rate sub
ps. im running secret vow
Man the energy increase can't happen any sooner I'm constantly using all my energy in like 1 min
You will use all in 3 min then...😂
@@freshii3716 try 80 seconds, mathematically speaking
I was lucky that my first relics were both Crit rate body pieces, with hp substats, But i just can´t get the damn HP boots.
I use inert salsotto with him and my second option would be celestial Differenciator if I could get his crit damage high enough to get the bonus.
But Rutilant Arena is pretty much made for hunt characters, perfect for Shushang and Dan Heng. Blade´s skill only enhances and doesn't attack so that 20% skill damage doesn´t really do much.
I used Inert salsotto because it enhances his ultimate and his follow by 15%, so he does benefit a lot from it.
thank you Moga for these videos. I dont feel bad about my relic luck
i still havent farmed longevous disciple a single time cause trace materials are just too damn expensive. i did get some rutilant arena pieces with immersifiers and my first two were literally perfect. granted when i rolled the orb i got a ton of break effect😢
The relic grind can be really annoying 😂 I have mine at 8.8k hp. Decided to go hp orb and crit damage chest. He hits hard now. I was also doing too much crit rate on him. Glad I switched up his build.
I got really lucky in farming blade relic and now my cv is 80ish crit rate and 150 crit dmg
i didnt expect to get his light cone so i used the model to get crit rate, now im over flowing with 100% crit if in battle
I just got blade today, used all my free to play special pass and I got this best in slot orb :D SSS - wind damage - hp - speed - crit damage and break effect :D good luck dude
My Blade has 7551 HP, 67% CR, 167% CDMG, 135 SPD, 0% WindDMG. Still torn if I better go with HP boots and Wind sphere will it be better? But currently no HP boots no Wind sphere so need more farming which is sucks...
doesnt current crit rate mean without any buffs even from 4 pc disciple?
My f2p friend saved every single fuel you obtain in the game to farm for blade.I guess you could say she's obsessed
I think I need to build another planar/rope set. I saw a lot of people using Arena on him, while I used Inert on him.
And I also just realized the buff from relic. So in battle, my Blade has 85/180 😂(could be 85/210 with Bronya).
Don't worry about changing from inert to arena. It seems that for blade, they will be about the same, but you will need less crit rate with salsotto. So maybe just go with the one with better substats
NAH!!! Building jing yuan is more than a nightmare it's been a month, and I haven't got a crit dmg crit rate hat or crit stats on boot (I'm about to losing my mind )
I got a perfect wind damage orb under that relic set from wl7…. issue is I don’t have blade lol.
watching this after spending 50 fuels on blade and not getting good pieces in healing my pain
same problem as well, i have to run hp% piece because with crit rate piece, my crit gonna be 109%
Yeah burned most of resin for him but now some kind of decent build with 7.8k hp 57/164 crit. And thanks to his signature light one, e2 and set bonus I'm almost reach 89 citrate.
9:10 "Take your 2.6% crit rate and shove it up your-"
IM WHEEZING XDDD (but it is relatable :'))
Should u be using Tingyun for Blade since he doesnt scale off of atk?
The only thing tingyun really does for blade is the ult regeneration and the dmg% buff of her ult
HIII MOGAA THANKS FOR THIS VID!!!
didnt think anything could be worse than artifact farming but relic farming is literally pain😔
Our brainwaves must be In sync because it finally got Balde to 70.2 crit rate from substats. I was doin battle and saw my buffs and saw I had 88 % cr
Him using that hp boots with double crit as a fodder pained me so much... Speed boots are nice if you don't have Bronya, but if you do have Bronya HP boots can be better.
Fr I died inside a little when he did that
The actual sad music playing in the background as you roll all these 💀
Wrong main, wrong sub stats
wrong main, amazing sub stats
amazing main, wrong sub stats
repeat and repeat….
I've been waiting for ur video cause it always makes my day man❤️🙃
full hp blade is kinda really good due to his scaling. to the point where I hate that you threw away those hp boots since I need boots that good.
For boots only, speed might be a bit better but yeah going full HP otherwise is really good.
Edit: hold on. I just got to that part of the video? Those boots were double crit!? Oh hell nah! Guy should have kept those!
Exactly, bro saved mis artifacts and chose to feed this piece instead
I am trying to figure out why your Blades hp is so low. Mine has awful relics but I'm at 7.2k hp. Im trying to figure why it is that much lower then mine. I know ideally you want him in the 8k HP range but that seems like it's gonna be super hard.
he went through 5 stages of grief in 15 minutes
I crafted 3 Body pieces for him, with 2 of them Crit Dmg and the other one is Crit Rate. The most insane moment in my HSR account.
0:57 Damn.Moga is a psychic now?
Have been farming Longevous Disciple since I pulled Blade and for the most part I just got cracked Messenger relics for my Bronya.
I'm not complaining but please, at some point I need some crit dmg for Bladie. 😭
Can anyone tell me if why arena is better than inert for blade bc blade does have a follow up atk and a pretty strong ult so i would assume he would benefit more with the two than the arena set
Theyre about the same if ure on E0, use whichever have nicer subs. E1+ prefers salsotto
If you need speed use Asta. She's good at that with the Hackerspace set.
The 4 set also gives her and extra speed boost on top of her speed boost.
Sort of a 'Yo dawg, we heard you like speed' moment.
So how do you farm a set this many time and be this invested in it that you know for a fact that you'll use the 4 piece set on blade without knowing what it does?
Being moga ig
Where did you get 5 million credits from ?
He gets even more crit rate with his traces
there's no such thing as too much crit rate unless it's 100%. Mine has 90 with relics effect and he still misses crit quite alot
Mine is at 88 Crit rate with 16% from his set and 217 crit damage, got pretty lucky i'd say.
i feel like this is the perfect example of being tunnel vision on crits stats only
Actually CN mathers have calculated that HP boots are still slightly better than speed and even more so if you have bronya.
Me: I have all the characters in the game.
Also me: I cannot use most of them because I don't have any good relics for any of them
just pair him with Bronya and u dont need to worry about speed
BRO DOES NOT HAVE BRONYA 😭
just have BRONYA lol
@@JamezJN007 if i can bronya he shoud have one aswell or hes anoob
@@justkidding6482 based?
"just pair him with Bronya and u dont need to worry about speed"
How much Crit rate is he need raw, without any buff?
Depends on which planar set you will go with. If you go Salsotto you can go as low a 50% or even a bit lower crit rate, if you go for Rutilant Arena then you need at least 54% crit so the 4 piece relic set will give you the rest 16% to reach 70% crit rate.
@@Sunhwk I see, its not problem i have 64% Crit rate with 149 crit dmg
Blade is so far the best dps character overall. He has everything in his kit. Second highest st damage, strongest aoe(surprisingly), sustain. And he is easy to build. Granted weapon choice for him is not great so far. You pretty much need his LC for him to shine.
Arlan's weapon is good for him too
@@fatmabetulkaya7882it's a close second, but definitely gonna pull for his LC if he gets a rerun
just use the 3*s they arent that bad and he is still insane without his signature
And that’s why I went with health. :’D (F2P here with bad luck and coping + getting trace mats for Dan Heng).
Lmao, I thought it was me. I personally hate building a character in this game. God, so much mats needed for such basic updates.
I will only relic grind for my favorite characters. But I at least have something decent on him rn so... It's not like I'm in a hurry either.
I think hp boots are better because he has a lot of base speed so he would probably be goin second while ur support would go first
His base speed is under 100. It's pretty slow.
bro built a break effect blade
I spent so many resin thing but got zero good artifacts
The fact that he threw an HP boots that has good subs is sad (if you have bronya and equipped blade with HP instead of spd it would be better for him because bronya's turn is blade's turn)
Not exactly that easy. If you run blade with a little more speed like 135 and Bronya 134 (ideally) you can effectively give blade 3 turns (Blade>Bronya[Blade]>Blade) which is extremely good for him and worth the loss of HP boots.
@@hunterace4275 true but still its goof damage
I did 10 runs and ended up with 7,700 Hp/ 62% crit rate/ 170% crit damage/ 128 speed. Def some min/maxing but for 10 runs I got a crazy lucky start.
HOW?!?! 💀 i need that luck can u share?
Ummm mr. Moga you should salvage your legendary artifacts because then you get pieces to craft the perfect pieces in the synthesizer
Wait until he finds out about Inert Salsotto...
Bruh, this is literally me when I'm rolling substats.. so fcking unlucky hahaha
I need more trailblaze power 👹👹👹
relics are gonna be the death of me, i feel like im more unlucky with relics than with the actual gacha 😭
This new relic really like to up sub defence percentage
What a pain😢
i wish i had enuff material to up my relics like that ._.
so im not the only one whose boots only rolled into atk and break effect
When RNG starts becoming predictable it's no longer RNG
everyone suffering with building baldie makes me feel better about my own relics LMAO
??? Dam I don't have all that on my gears and my blade is doing lots of damage.
break effect not bad tho i feel u on those atk rolls tho the one fuckin time i dont want it lol
Still building blade, my current blade stay 7.8k HP, 1.6k Atk, 78/162 Cdmg, and 38% HP... Speed just 101
hurts me that you chucked the hp boots considering he really doesnt need speed if you have bronya lol
I love your content for both Honkai SR and GI. But.. yeah... I hate the relic grind in Honkai, farming for days, spending extra power for refills.. and none of my chars are .. particularly well geared, bad rolls on EVERYTHING.
my blade sets just done in 2 days lol
unlike my seelie which havent done in months rng is just cruel
Wait... this whole time i thought you had to have a minimum crit rate of 70% on blade BEFORE BATTLE to activate the effect from the rutilant arena set, but it activates later with the extra 16% given by the longevis disciple set in battle?!... my life has been a lie
Yep
Farming for Arena for Blade is very confusing. Inert Salsatto just gives him more damage compared to Arena especially since a majority of blade's damage come from him follow-up and ultimate.
Ruliant is only like ~2% better than Salsotto at E0 but starting at E1 salsotto pulls ahead. You’d run ruliant because farming world 7 gives you two good sets instead if world 5 which gives you a shit set and a good set
Lol no, where did you even get that info, or you were building him wrong
almost half the damage he does comes from his basic and the other half are almost equal from follow up and ult
@@kaido8452 I did my own calculations using the damage calculator. Many youtubers have also shown that his main damage comes from ult and follow up. How about you also get some of your research before claiming my info is incorrect?
Hey moga do you miss stigmata and the fact that you can reroll the substats 💀
Yeah, I can feel that
inert salsotto is actually blade’s best planar set ;)
Glad to know that relic farming for blade has been universally horrible for everyone
Not kidding on every piece I have for him it rolled into DEF. I swear its skewed.
My Blade be rocking 72,9 crit rate and 72 crit dmg.
Help.