The 28-400 has been a pleasant surprise with a significantly increased keeper rate compared to the adapted f mount 28-300. Great for travelling if you can only take one lens.
The 40mm f2 was my first lens on the z system. They actually sell cheap 3rd party kits that change the plastic mount to metal if it bothers you that much.
I would put the superzooms 24-200 & 28-400 in the niche group. Those are for the specific people who want the all in one and are ready to accept the comprimises. They could be beginner or pro, everbody and nobody. I'd put the 2 high dollar tele-TC lenses in there as well. A lot of people have several carefully chosen lenses shooting a wide gamut if subject matter and don't even know those two exist.
Great video! However sth I don't quite get is how is the 105 mc a better buy as a portrait lens than sth like 85 f1.8? The f2.8 sounds like a deal breaker for me..
@@ZWadePhoto I mean you said it's a steal at the current price. I know they are not exactly same lense. But the 85 1.8 is cheaper and bigger aperture. Is it that the 105 has the extra macro capability?
@@energydw8260 it’s a steal because it’s versatile, yes, but also because of how sharp it is, its performance in and outside of macro, superb color and contrast. F/2.8 is totally normal for a macro lens. For portraits the light gathering differences of 1.8 vs 2.8 isn’t that crazy, there are greater difference in back ground blur between 1.8 and 2.8 but that’s offset a bit by 105 being a bit longer than 85. Both at the same distance would have very good backgrounds. The lens on its own is incredibly good and better than at its regular price is in my opinion, it’s a steal because it’s as good as it is and goes on sale.
The 600mm f/6.3 is very attractive to me because of the price and weight for outside. Everything else on your presentation is great, as sports shooter. If you make money as a birder/smaller wildlife then I would go for the 600mm f/4, this is your money lens. The 400mm f/2.8 is such a versatile, fast lens with the TC, if you make enough money it would almost cover everything long, including inside sports along with the 70-200mm f/2.8, and the 24-70 f/2.8. The 14-24 f/2.8 is a great lens to get wide shots of a venue and unique event shots as a pro. I like the other primes and advanced lenses. I hear the 24-120 is an attractive lens like the way you described.
Pretty good assessment on the your rankings. The only difference from my opinion, I would probably put the 24mm F1.8 in the group for advanced hobbyist along with the 20mm. I think “for everyone” the 24-70 F4 is perfect.
Some people think I’m crazy for that one. It needs a revision, OR it just needs to be cheaper. If it’s that expensive for Nikon to make, well, all the more reason to rethink it
The new Tamron 28 75mm G2 F2.8 is now being sold. How does the newer G2 version of this lens fit into your chart. I have that "professional" 70-200mm F2.8 and returned the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8 to acquire it for 2295.00-50.00 total was 2245.00 from B&H. My trinity would be the 28-75mm G2 F2.8 the 70-200mm F2.8 and the 180 600mm. The Tamron 28 75mm G2 F2.8 is probably my next purchase.
I’m a senior & advanced hobbyist who shoots everything excluding event photography & portraits. Current kit; D7500 & Z50 + 12 lenses including the Z16-50, Z26mm & Z40mm Awaiting patiently and for a long time the announcement/release of the Z6iii + purchase the Z24-120mm, Z105 macro, & 14-30mm. If a pile of $ drops in my lap, the Z100-400 + 1.4 or 2.0 TC. You are bang on with your placement of lenses on your chart!
I don't its worth to rank lenses by professinal grades. As in Sports Money doesn't buy goals! Good equipment can assist but not more. an excellent photograph can even with a pickle glass kit lens achieve excellent pictures (the composition, the planning, the understanding of the triangle, working with the limitations istead of working against the limitaions), in opposite to the "What i have to pay the world " amateur with all the 5-Star++ equipment using everything in the auto-Granny-mode (no understanding of composition, planning, no understanding of the fundamentals) who will make the better pictures. Yes there are differences between the lenses, and the prices are justified by higher complexity, and lower number, but are usually not justified by the amount of higher performance.
@@ZWadePhoto The major issue in nowadays, compaired to the past high amount of electronics buil in, increased potential of failures , decreased longivity. if you had an highend manual lens from the seventies its still high end, if you had an highend modern lens from the early 2000s its electronic waste.
Man, this is a very helpful analysis video. Kudos to you, Zwade.
Glad you enjoyed it my friend 🤙🤙🤙
Love this series Z!, thanks so much for doing these
You’re welcome!
Hey Z, how often would you say the MC 105mm 2.8 goes on sale? I missed the September sale by a few days. When would you predict it goes on sale again?
@@johnw.3636 I couldn’t say my dude. I never see the sales coming either.
@@johnw.3636 I did see it refurbished at Nikon for 700 bucks
@@ZWadePhoto Gotcha! Thanks, Z!
How would you rank the Viltrox 27mm and 75mm f1.2 lenses by the way?
I haven’t used or researched either of them I’m afraid. But I am build a relationship with viltrox. So maybe we’ll see 🤘
The 28-400 has been a pleasant surprise with a significantly increased keeper rate compared to the adapted f mount 28-300. Great for travelling if you can only take one lens.
That’s awesome to hear! I’ll be testing it sometime in late July. According to my schedule
Agree 100%.
Definitely a soccer mom lens.
The 40mm f2 was my first lens on the z system. They actually sell cheap 3rd party kits that change the plastic mount to metal if it bothers you that much.
That I did not know. 🙌
Where would I find one of these kits? I have the 40mm f2 and I love it with my Zf, but I also want it to last as long as possible
I would put the superzooms 24-200 & 28-400 in the niche group. Those are for the specific people who want the all in one and are ready to accept the comprimises. They could be beginner or pro, everbody and nobody. I'd put the 2 high dollar tele-TC lenses in there as well. A lot of people have several carefully chosen lenses shooting a wide gamut if subject matter and don't even know those two exist.
Thank you for watching!
Great video! However sth I don't quite get is how is the 105 mc a better buy as a portrait lens than sth like 85 f1.8? The f2.8 sounds like a deal breaker for me..
I don’t think I said it was better in this video.
@@ZWadePhoto I mean you said it's a steal at the current price. I know they are not exactly same lense. But the 85 1.8 is cheaper and bigger aperture. Is it that the 105 has the extra macro capability?
@@energydw8260 it’s a steal because it’s versatile, yes, but also because of how sharp it is, its performance in and outside of macro, superb color and contrast. F/2.8 is totally normal for a macro lens.
For portraits the light gathering differences of 1.8 vs 2.8 isn’t that crazy, there are greater difference in back ground blur between 1.8 and 2.8 but that’s offset a bit by 105 being a bit longer than 85. Both at the same distance would have very good backgrounds.
The lens on its own is incredibly good and better than at its regular price is in my opinion, it’s a steal because it’s as good as it is and goes on sale.
I thought you were a historical RUclips guy I watch for a second. I was so confused by the content switch 😂
Hahahaha Simon Whistler? I’ve heard it before lol
@@ZWadePhoto yes!
You just want to get all your Z glass out and play don't you ! Well done!!
I don’t have that much. But I am into my mission of using them all 😜. I’ve used 26 out of 38. 12 to go
@@ZWadePhoto I have a bunch also, and love everyone of them !!
The 600mm f/6.3 is very attractive to me because of the price and weight for outside. Everything else on your presentation is great, as sports shooter. If you make money as a birder/smaller wildlife then I would go for the 600mm f/4, this is your money lens. The 400mm f/2.8 is such a versatile, fast lens with the TC, if you make enough money it would almost cover everything long, including inside sports along with the 70-200mm f/2.8, and the 24-70 f/2.8. The 14-24 f/2.8 is a great lens to get wide shots of a venue and unique event shots as a pro. I like the other primes and advanced lenses. I hear the 24-120 is an attractive lens like the way you described.
Making money as a wildlife shooter is pretty lucrative. Haha. But it’s been done. I appreciate you watching!
I rent them, can't see any money in birding. But they're some that manage. Or manage to break even as a hobby.
As an advanced hobbyist I'd be looking at the 135'S, the 20'S, the 26, the 400F4.5S and the 40F2.
@@0ecka right on 🤙 thanks for watching
Pretty good assessment on the your rankings. The only difference from my opinion, I would probably put the 24mm F1.8 in the group for advanced hobbyist along with the 20mm. I think “for everyone” the 24-70 F4 is perfect.
Thanks for watching and commenting 🤙🤙🤙
I sadly and fully agree on the 35mm 1.8. If I were to recommend one lens for a revision- that would be the one to improve.
Some people think I’m crazy for that one. It needs a revision, OR it just needs to be cheaper. If it’s that expensive for Nikon to make, well, all the more reason to rethink it
The new Tamron 28 75mm G2 F2.8 is now being sold. How does the newer G2 version of this lens fit into your chart.
I have that "professional" 70-200mm F2.8 and returned the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8 to acquire it for 2295.00-50.00 total was 2245.00 from B&H.
My trinity would be the 28-75mm G2 F2.8 the 70-200mm F2.8 and the 180 600mm. The Tamron 28 75mm G2 F2.8 is probably my next purchase.
It wouldn’t for to THIS specific list because these are Nikon branded at all. Otherwise, I’d like Tamron to send me one to try out
I’m a senior & advanced hobbyist who shoots everything excluding event photography & portraits.
Current kit; D7500 & Z50 + 12 lenses including the Z16-50, Z26mm & Z40mm
Awaiting patiently and for a long time the announcement/release of the Z6iii + purchase the Z24-120mm, Z105 macro, & 14-30mm.
If a pile of $ drops in my lap, the Z100-400 + 1.4 or 2.0 TC.
You are bang on with your placement of lenses on your chart!
Thanks George! Glad you liked the content 🤙🤙
Do the same for Fujiiiiii.
Man I wish I could but I have NO Fuji experience 😕
Well now I'm just wanting to go spend money on lenses I didn't previously know I needed!
Hahahahaha my bad bruh.
I don't its worth to rank lenses by professinal grades.
As in Sports Money doesn't buy goals!
Good equipment can assist but not more.
an excellent photograph can even with a pickle glass kit lens achieve excellent pictures (the composition, the planning, the understanding of the triangle, working with the limitations istead of working against the limitaions), in opposite to the "What i have to pay the world " amateur with all the 5-Star++ equipment using everything in the auto-Granny-mode (no understanding of composition, planning, no understanding of the fundamentals) who will make the better pictures.
Yes there are differences between the lenses, and the prices are justified by higher complexity, and lower number, but are usually not justified by the amount of higher performance.
I think performance is worth money. Keeper rate/performance reliability saves time and time is money.
@@ZWadePhoto The major issue in nowadays, compaired to the past high amount of electronics buil in, increased potential of failures , decreased longivity.
if you had an highend manual lens from the seventies its still high end, if you had an highend modern lens from the early 2000s its electronic waste.
799.95 for a noct? a bargain!
Aaaagggghh. First to catch it hahaha
24-70mm f/4.0 not listed, why? It says "All Nikon Z lenses"... Liar. EDIT: OK, it is there, but your timestamp name is wrong, it lacks 70mm.
I’ll change the time stamp. Original: “over reaction regardless” 😉
Some of us were born Mad ... 🦘
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