Dantoni doesn’t receive enough credit for revolutionizing the game. I think some of the influence that people attribute to curry, can also be attributed to dantoni.
@@calebangell77 Yeah and I think there might be a new revolution coming because now every team resembles the Houston Rockets in terms of roster construction with 1-2 iso scorers/decision makers, one picknroll big, and everyone else 3&D with another stretch big that can play center
Nelly, D'Antoni and Kerr can claim the credit for high speed shoot friendly offence. They took the dominant position (big strong slow centres), and made it near unplayable on a court.
@@calebangell77 7 seconds or less Suns were the first team to really start the revolution. And it makes sense what occurred with GSW as Kerr was our GM during a portion of those years with Suns.
@@user-gm5gc1be4w that is literally the revolution curry and the warriors created wtf are you on😂…… every player has to be able to knock down threes and defend insanely well, even the big. We are still in the curry/warriors revolution and looks like we will be for a long long time
@@xxxkipperdipperxxx6783from 1990 to 1997 he was in Italy, so his cousin might be a domestic player in Olimpia Milano or Benetton Basket (the teams D'Antoni coached)
there is a great little segment with Chris Paul about this. as he tells it, this was initially, before every other team started switching, 100% a strategy to beat the warriors, even at the expense of regular season performance. to their credit, they put up a good fight against the best on-paper team ever. Harden also deserves credit for reinventing himself after the dribbledribbledribble phase of his career came to an end.
@@RealEyesRealizeFascists all of those missed threes happened because it became a robotic style of play dependent on the next man hitting the shot rather than players moving about the court in finding easy ways to score
I loooove this channel….. great way to digestive some of the strategic aspects of the game! Makes watching more fun when you can understand what other teams are trying to do
Dennis was always an underappreciated iso player. His speed alone is incredibly difficult to guard and he was a streaky shooter with sneakily good finishing around the rim. He just has a lot of other limitations that hold him back from becoming a star. But yeah.. speed kills
The capela lob from the dunker spot was such a headache for defenses. Once harden had the first step on you it’s automatic. It would happen sometimes 2-4 possessions in a row.
I wish someone would ask D'Antoni about the playoff downsides of this heliocentric offense approach (For them: Harden's fatigue, less foul calls/more physicality in the playoffs, and inability to adjust in playoffs because Harden never played off ball and role players are never asked to do anything more). To me, this is most valid criticism of that Rockets team not aesthetics.
@Mad J While Chris going down mid game was bad for them, the Warriors lost their sixth man in the 4th game. If Iggy doesn't get injured they win in five.
@@Charlie-jf1me If you're gonna bring up Iggy then Rockets fans can bring up Luc Mbah a Moute who was their best perimeter defender as well and went down in the first round
@Mad J I'd actually agree with you on the most part. the Rockets offense was ridiculously potent, but if you're asking your starts to have +50% usage rate, that generally leads to lot of strain and injuries and fatigue. And we did see a lot of times, that Harden did shrink in the clutch not to mention the CP3 injury .
@Mad J Yeah, that's true. The stuff Harden pulled off that season was insane, ngl. I still maintain that the Houston offense would've been a tad bit more effective, if they had just sprinkled in a few off ball cutting plays. Harden generated so much attention that we'd have 5 members sometimes looking straight at him which would lead to some pretty wide open cuts for off ball players (sort of like what Giannis and the Bucks sometimes pull out in semi transition offense), but the Rockets we're still one of the best offense of that time period. Shame to see it all fall apart in the end.
I absolutely loved that Rockets 2018 team. They were so fun to watch and when they were hot were honestly the best offensive team of all time or at least could rival the Warriors in terms of offense
BEN THIS IS MY FAVORITE EPISODE. BEEN WANTNG TO SEE A RUclips VID ON THIS SINCE THAT PODCAST EPISODE LAST YEAR. IM A D'ANTONI FAN, AND I BELIEVE HE DOESNT GET THE RESPECT HE DESERVES FOR ALL THE INNOVATIONS HE PUT INTO THE GAME. YOU KNOW, HOW HIS 7SOL SUNS FORCED THE LEAGUE TO CHANGE AND EVENTUALLY EVOLVE, AND FOR HOW THE ROCKETS BASICALLY OPENED EVERYONE'S EYES BY DIVING INTO ANALYTICS VIA SPAMMING THE 3-BALL AND SOMEWHAT BRINGING BACK THE DREADED ISO. I WISH THERE COULD BE MORE EPISODES WITH COACH MIKE SO WE CAN SEE/HEAR MORE OF HIS GENIUS AND HOPEFULLY HE GETS INTO THE HALL SOME DAY.
What an insightful conversation, super interesting to see how the back and forth between defensive and offensive schemes leads to overall evolution of the game
@@Thanosdidtherighthing I don’t think there’s a guard comparable, what other guard was able to average 30-35 points a game one season and 10-11 assists the next
What’s also crazy to me is that after he left Houston he was an assistant on the nets staff and still united back with harden months later he deff loves him sum harden
Broke my heart when Cp3 got hurt and they lost to Golden State. Harden & Chris would be viewed SO MUCH differently if they would've won that championship.. Also Coach D'Antoni would get his respect for being a mastermind & one of the most innovative coaches ever..Sad really 😂😔😔
Agreed and they definitely had a strong chance in 2018. Harden overall though declined too much in the post season. Went from being a 36.2% 3pt shooter to a 32.4% 3pt shooter in Houston playoffs .
@@Thanosdidtherighthing And that was my thing against Harden. On one hand, let's be fair, He's up against the greatest team of this era. Actually the greatest team of all time. It's not realistic to expect him to have the same level of dominance vs such an amazing team.. BUT on the other hand.. As great as Harden was, All that was needed was ONE all-time legendary performance in game 6 or 7 to cement himself as a legend. And he didn't deliver.
@@trelllmaoyessir it really depends, I kinda prefer the screening action/catch and shoot that warriors/old spurs do but 1v1 action has some great moments too.
I’m a big MDA fan and I’ve made many assumptions about Rockets’ strategies on Warriors. 80% of them were confirmed on this podcast. Love it. Thank you so much!
I think the Rocket's over-reliance on Harden didn't take into account fatigue in the playoffs. The playoff fatigue is different because opposing team just get so much chance to hone in on the workings of your offense. Hence Harden being famous for close-out game meltdowns. I would hazard a guess that they would've had more playoff success, possibly a championship, if they had more go-to weapons & plays that they were able to practice in live games and pull-out of the tool kit whenever Harden wasn't having a great game. Or even just to change it up in order to manage Harden's fatigue over a possibly grueling 7 game series.
That has always been a good option. Isolations are good plays as long as as the offensive player has a good match up to attack and there is good spacing.
I dislike their style of play but it is working and thats why they used it. Its like natural selection really. Thats the best offense to emerge that could've countered gsw.
If not for Chris Paul getting injured and missing the last 2 games of the series against the Warriors in 2018, the Rockets might have won the championship. It's hard to compare each teams regular season stats because Warriors had a lot of Injuries with Durant missing 14 games and Curry missing 31 games plus Klay and Draymond missing between 9-12 games. But the Rockets were up 3-2 when Paul last played. Warriors swept the Cavs so I imagine the Rockets would have easily won as well, maybe not a sweep but maybe 5 games with 6 at most.
he's the steph curry of coaching. He revolutionized the game of basketball with his 3 point emphasis, fast pace and no defense. I'm not even being sarcastic.
They made that 2017-2019 Warriors team look mortal. No one came closer to knocking out that superteam than the 2018 Rockets. i just wish injuries didn’t exist because we’ve lost a whole lot of good basketball just from injuries alone 😿. but, it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
I got love for these rockets teams because imo, that team is run exactly how any regular nba fan would probably run a team. "Just give your best guy the ball and let him work"
You do know that Kobe said that because he knew CP3 was injured during the 2019 season, and that was their only way of winning regular seasons games during that stretch, right? Even Kobe said that he knows Harden would share the ball with CP3 when he got back. I swear to god people don't actually understand context at all, lmfao
He made a really good point fans at home need to realize, the game is heavily dependent on stats now. The entire playbook is based off efficiency, so at home, when you watch these guys do something and scratch your head, it might be something that has worked all year long. A good example of this was the Lakers offense last year, it was a heavy diet of LeBron isolation and 1 on 1s. Fans at home were mad the ball wasn't moving, but when you dove into the analytics the LeBron post up was their only efficient offense for the most part. Every playbook now, offense or defense is heavily dependent on statistics as much as people don't wanna believe that
@@Loris71734 Nothing's perfect. But it's mostly EFFORT... Again, Tim played in credible All Star games - not "public practice"... But as long as they cash cheques and get Twitter mentions/Tiktok shares...
Most underrated coach all time just cuz casuals wanna mention rings. If CP3 doesn’t get injured, rockets take down the warriors we all know it, 3-2 lead before cp3 goes down
i understand the analytics, but i feel like its short sighted, puts all the presure on James, and when playoffs come around and he needs help, the team hasnt developed the chemsitry to step up and carry the load
It’s designed to generate overall wins, not specific wins like playoffs. If you look at the numbers, 18-19 Rockets had the “most efficient offense” according to statistics. They did something right, but Murphy’s Law exists, and in a grand picture, they lost 4 games against the Warriors in the Playoffs, but got a bunch more Ws in other scenarios.
guys like Stephen a smith give mike a bad reputation as a coach and is always trying to slander his name from getting the good coaching jobs. He'd be a better coach for the 6ers
But what he is ignoring is that without the passing the were the most efficient but they couldn't win a chip playing that way because winning at the highest level required the whole team to be at their best and when guys are doing that much watching it's impossible for them all to be in a flow
That's a gibberish narrative. The Rockets were literally a couple 3 pointers made away from winning game 7 in 2018 Western Conference Finals. There's no "right way to play basketball"
CP3 going down in that GS series is so unlucky. Who knows if they pull it off with him but they were looking great and things were pointing that way. Who knows how Harden/CP3s legacy would be if they were able to make it to that finals and win it all. Still not sure what genius decided to move on from CP3 for Russ. Made no sense
@@MrWillandtk UCONN Huskies legendary head coach Geno Auriemma hates poor ball movement with a passion. 👍 He demands that the point guard knows who they are going to pass the ball to BEFORE THE POINT GUARD CROSSES THE HALFCOURT LINE. The 1st pass is not a catch & shoot situations. You gotta make the defense expend more energy chasing after 2 or 3 passes.
Don't put Curry in the same conversation as harden. That was a mega reach by you. Curry is nowhere near James in iso or skill. Nevermind talent they played with
Isolation offense against elite defense especially in the playoffs will eventually get shut down. That's why the rockets of 18-19 couldn't win the championship. Warriors motion offense is much more difficult to defend as a defense having to chase Steph and Klay around. Dantoni is too stubborn to adapt and make adjustments during the series against the warriors.
The two big problems with Mike D’Antoni teams is that the offences are built for regular season success, but in 7 game series, when opposing defences can spend days planning against it, it’s not going to work. D’Antoni also simply didn’t focus enough on defence. Again, that will work during the regular season, but not in the playoffs.
You dont know what you’re talking about… it only didn’t work against the greatest team of all time, nothing was going to work against them… stop talking little boy
@@Thanosdidtherighthing ? The only ways to beat GSW are to have a generational center like Shaq/Hakeem with good enough role players, or launch more 3's and "try" to limit their offense to only KD iso 2's
Lack of playoff success? What team competed with the Warriors? They went toe to toe with one of the greatest dynasties in basketball history. I think Curry, Durant, Klay and Green (along with West, Iggy, Livingston, etc.) had more to do with their “lack of playoff success” than their offensive system.
If Houston doesn't miss 27 straight threes they would have beaten the superteam warriors, and likely won the championship that year. I don't think it was a schematic fault of theirs.
@@PNL1992 Harden went from being a 36.2% 3pt shooter in Houston regular seasons to a 32.4% 3pt shooter in Houston playoffs…. He simply declined too much in the playoffs statistically across the board.
Mike always runs his players into the ground. Watching beard flop around like a fish drove me away from basketball. It worked great, I’m glad it never won.
Man. He's avoiding the actual issue which is the entire offence is based around Harden's fraudulent moves and depending on the refs to bail him out. He couldn't get those calls and no-calls in the playoffs and everything collapsed. People liked CP3 in the offence because it was real basketball that predictably wasn't going to fall apart.
I do not understand Mike D’Antoni’s accent. It sounds like he’s a Southern cowboy trying to change his accent to be more Northeastern? He ends up sounding British? What is going on?
That last comment about Kevin Durant being the best iso player in the league destroying Master Splinter and his one Ninja Turtle Chris Paul was pretty funny.
Rockets fan since 90. People didn't like it but they couldn't stop it. It just didn't work in the playoffs bc Harden wasn't getting the same calls. Even still if CP3 never gets hurts..... that will always sting.
Are you sure your a rockets fan??? It definitely worked in the playoffs. I don't know if you know but the rockets lost a 7 game series by 3 points to the greatest team of all time missing their 3nd best player.
The difference in calls was a factor - you just aren’t going to get the lazy assumption calls/lazy defense fouls youll get in the regular season and so some contact goes uncalled and foul rates go down. Added to this was that Harden’s 3 point efficiency decreased in the playoffs. I think this rockets team kinda showed that it’s really risky to make drawing fouls a serious part of your offensive strategy
James Harden is the reason why i started watching NBA. This guy's skillset is just amazing to watch and such a game changer. One of the greatest scorers to ever play. Huge respect for coach Mike D'Antoni for recognizing Harden's offensive skills.
@Mr. Melendez those people are fkn idiots. Boo hoo he flops to get free points - so do plenty of others. He's just so smooth and phenomenal at offence, has a million ways to score and pass. Genius bball IQ
same, and imagine am from Africa where football is the only sport we exposed to, harden was just different gravy 🥶🥶 especially with " cooking" celebration he used to do 🔥🥵
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Dantoni doesn’t receive enough credit for revolutionizing the game. I think some of the influence that people attribute to curry, can also be attributed to dantoni.
Curry and Steve Kerr revolutionized the game and Dantoni and Harden took it to it's logical conclusion.
@@calebangell77 Yeah and I think there might be a new revolution coming because now every team resembles the Houston Rockets in terms of roster construction with 1-2 iso scorers/decision makers, one picknroll big, and everyone else 3&D with another stretch big that can play center
Nelly, D'Antoni and Kerr can claim the credit for high speed shoot friendly offence. They took the dominant position (big strong slow centres), and made it near unplayable on a court.
@@calebangell77 7 seconds or less Suns were the first team to really start the revolution. And it makes sense what occurred with GSW as Kerr was our GM during a portion of those years with Suns.
@@user-gm5gc1be4w that is literally the revolution curry and the warriors created wtf are you on😂…… every player has to be able to knock down threes and defend insanely well, even the big. We are still in the curry/warriors revolution and looks like we will be for a long long time
D’Antoni coached my cousin overseas before he joined the Pacers. When Coach came to the NBA I was juiced! Big love for him in our family
Who’s your cousin ? 🤔
Italy 🇮🇹 🔥
@@xxxkipperdipperxxx6783from 1990 to 1997 he was in Italy, so his cousin might be a domestic player in Olimpia Milano or Benetton Basket (the teams D'Antoni coached)
there is a great little segment with Chris Paul about this. as he tells it, this was initially, before every other team started switching, 100% a strategy to beat the warriors, even at the expense of regular season performance. to their credit, they put up a good fight against the best on-paper team ever. Harden also deserves credit for reinventing himself after the dribbledribbledribble phase of his career came to an end.
And 40 missed threes in game 7. But yeah that too
Where is this? Was this on JJ’s Podcast?
@@RealEyesRealizeFascists all of those missed threes happened because it became a robotic style of play dependent on the next man hitting the shot rather than players moving about the court in finding easy ways to score
@@DJ-ys9pv yeah I believe so
its cuz harden was always a spectacular playmaker. only people that thought he was a ball hog were haters or casuals.
Bruh I can’t believe this dude is 70 he looks really in shape lol
I remember watching the full pod of this and dantoni drooped so many gems
It's just pure math. D'antoni plays the most efficient offense based on the player he has. That's the definition of a good coach.
Hey Lebron fanboy, you still good?
I loooove this channel….. great way to digestive some of the strategic aspects of the game! Makes watching more fun when you can understand what other teams are trying to do
schroder being in that isolation list is something else, goes to show you how even a role player is that good
Dennis was always an underappreciated iso player. His speed alone is incredibly difficult to guard and he was a streaky shooter with sneakily good finishing around the rim. He just has a lot of other limitations that hold him back from becoming a star.
But yeah.. speed kills
no it doesnt, it shows that Dennis is above average in isolation lol
@@futurehofer1564 "no it doesnt" then "dennis is above average in isolation" man what is it? lol what a moronic reply
@@futurehofer1564 watch his games with germany and u'll see how good he is
@@joshuaabuel5812 I literally said he was good?
The capela lob from the dunker spot was such a headache for defenses. Once harden had the first step on you it’s automatic. It would happen sometimes 2-4 possessions in a row.
I wish someone would ask D'Antoni about the playoff downsides of this heliocentric offense approach (For them: Harden's fatigue, less foul calls/more physicality in the playoffs, and inability to adjust in playoffs because Harden never played off ball and role players are never asked to do anything more). To me, this is most valid criticism of that Rockets team not aesthetics.
@Mad J While Chris going down mid game was bad for them, the Warriors lost their sixth man in the 4th game. If Iggy doesn't get injured they win in five.
@@Charlie-jf1me who the fuck do yall think iguodala? Bro got insane gas cause he was on the warriors lol he was a ROLEPLAYER
@@Charlie-jf1me If you're gonna bring up Iggy then Rockets fans can bring up Luc Mbah a Moute who was their best perimeter defender as well and went down in the first round
@Mad J I'd actually agree with you on the most part. the Rockets offense was ridiculously potent, but if you're asking your starts to have +50% usage rate, that generally leads to lot of strain and injuries and fatigue. And we did see a lot of times, that Harden did shrink in the clutch not to mention the CP3 injury .
@Mad J Yeah, that's true. The stuff Harden pulled off that season was insane, ngl. I still maintain that the Houston offense would've been a tad bit more effective, if they had just sprinkled in a few off ball cutting plays. Harden generated so much attention that we'd have 5 members sometimes looking straight at him which would lead to some pretty wide open cuts for off ball players (sort of like what Giannis and the Bucks sometimes pull out in semi transition offense), but the Rockets we're still one of the best offense of that time period.
Shame to see it all fall apart in the end.
I absolutely loved that Rockets 2018 team. They were so fun to watch and when they were hot were honestly the best offensive team of all time or at least could rival the Warriors in terms of offense
Love hearing from the Mike, Dan and Toni boys
BEN THIS IS MY FAVORITE EPISODE. BEEN WANTNG TO SEE A RUclips VID ON THIS SINCE THAT PODCAST EPISODE LAST YEAR.
IM A D'ANTONI FAN, AND I BELIEVE HE DOESNT GET THE RESPECT HE DESERVES FOR ALL THE INNOVATIONS HE PUT INTO THE GAME. YOU KNOW, HOW HIS 7SOL SUNS FORCED THE LEAGUE TO CHANGE AND EVENTUALLY EVOLVE, AND FOR HOW THE ROCKETS BASICALLY OPENED EVERYONE'S EYES BY DIVING INTO ANALYTICS VIA SPAMMING THE 3-BALL AND SOMEWHAT BRINGING BACK THE DREADED ISO.
I WISH THERE COULD BE MORE EPISODES WITH COACH MIKE SO WE CAN SEE/HEAR MORE OF HIS GENIUS AND HOPEFULLY HE GETS INTO THE HALL SOME DAY.
Love D’Antoni, it’s gone be awhile til ppl admit how much he impacted the current NBA Playstyle‼️❤️
What an insightful conversation, super interesting to see how the back and forth between defensive and offensive schemes leads to overall evolution of the game
Harden's the best combo guard we've ever seen
What are the other combo guards ?
@@Thanosdidtherighthing I don’t think there’s a guard comparable, what other guard was able to average 30-35 points a game one season and 10-11 assists the next
Love MDA! Brilliant mind. Hope he wins a ring someday.
And great to hear him give Point God his praise !
its like we are in the film room with a professional team this is amazing
What’s also crazy to me is that after he left Houston he was an assistant on the nets staff and still united back with harden months later he deff loves him sum harden
Dantoni was a perfect fit when he was in Phoenix and Houston. It was too bad he couldn't get the ring. 2018 was his year.
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Broke my heart when Cp3 got hurt and they lost to Golden State. Harden & Chris would be viewed SO MUCH differently if they would've won that championship..
Also Coach D'Antoni would get his respect for being a mastermind & one of the most innovative coaches ever..Sad really 😂😔😔
Agreed and they definitely had a strong chance in 2018. Harden overall though declined too much in the post season. Went from being a 36.2% 3pt shooter to a 32.4% 3pt shooter in Houston playoffs .
@@Thanosdidtherighthing And that was my thing against Harden. On one hand, let's be fair, He's up against the greatest team of this era. Actually the greatest team of all time. It's not realistic to expect him to have the same level of dominance vs such an amazing team..
BUT on the other hand.. As great as Harden was, All that was needed was ONE all-time legendary performance in game 6 or 7 to cement himself as a legend. And he didn't deliver.
Great point. It definitely looks terrible but it worked on most teams.
I get the foul baiting but seeing harden cook up 1v1 is definitely more entertaining than catch and shoot or post scoring
@@trelllmaoyessir it really depends, I kinda prefer the screening action/catch and shoot that warriors/old spurs do but 1v1 action has some great moments too.
@@trelllmaoyessir it depends on how much repetition there is, if they are doing it every play then it’s extremely boring and one dimensional.
I’m a big MDA fan and I’ve made many assumptions about Rockets’ strategies on Warriors. 80% of them were confirmed on this podcast. Love it. Thank you so much!
Damn he got Mike D'Antoni on the Pod. Good stuff 👍🏾
AWESOME content
I think the Rocket's over-reliance on Harden didn't take into account fatigue in the playoffs. The playoff fatigue is different because opposing team just get so much chance to hone in on the workings of your offense. Hence Harden being famous for close-out game meltdowns. I would hazard a guess that they would've had more playoff success, possibly a championship, if they had more go-to weapons & plays that they were able to practice in live games and pull-out of the tool kit whenever Harden wasn't having a great game. Or even just to change it up in order to manage Harden's fatigue over a possibly grueling 7 game series.
Man fuck I was rooting for this rockets team so unbelievably hard
Love the enhanced pods!
That has always been a good option. Isolations are good plays as long as as the offensive player has a good match up to attack and there is good spacing.
I dislike their style of play but it is working and thats why they used it. Its like natural selection really. Thats the best offense to emerge that could've countered gsw.
If not for Chris Paul getting injured and missing the last 2 games of the series against the Warriors in 2018, the Rockets might have won the championship. It's hard to compare each teams regular season stats because Warriors had a lot of Injuries with Durant missing 14 games and Curry missing 31 games plus Klay and Draymond missing between 9-12 games. But the Rockets were up 3-2 when Paul last played. Warriors swept the Cavs so I imagine the Rockets would have easily won as well, maybe not a sweep but maybe 5 games with 6 at most.
he's the steph curry of coaching. He revolutionized the game of basketball with his 3 point emphasis, fast pace and no defense. I'm not even being sarcastic.
“No defense” was wrong. Rockets had one of the best defense in the league during 18-19, 19-20 season. Check the numbers.
Or else they wouldn’t even push the Warriors to Game 7.
They made that 2017-2019 Warriors team look mortal. No one came closer to knocking out that superteam than the 2018 Rockets. i just wish injuries didn’t exist because we’ve lost a whole lot of good basketball just from injuries alone 😿. but, it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
I got love for these rockets teams because imo, that team is run exactly how any regular nba fan would probably run a team. "Just give your best guy the ball and let him work"
I absolutely love how he acknowledges that it wasn't pretty and it was in a sense flukey due to personnel but it fucking worked
Thanks for the vid
Please do a video analyzing the Mavs-Lakers game that was today, and the effect Jarred Vanderbilt’s defense has on the game.
Kobe said it best tho, 1 player is never gonna beat a good defense at the top of the key. 1 v 5 can only take you so far.
Cap. They would have won it all w CP being healthy. Shooters w defense is what moves the teams nowadays
You do know that Kobe said that because he knew CP3 was injured during the 2019 season, and that was their only way of winning regular seasons games during that stretch, right? Even Kobe said that he knows Harden would share the ball with CP3 when he got back. I swear to god people don't actually understand context at all, lmfao
@@cottonmather8146 WeLl AcTuAlLy... shut up nerd.
@@ingusKD35 no they would not have.
@@BTizzle What's wrong? Your ego too fragile when you get told you're wrong? Sorry you can't use your idol's words to skew some biased narrative 😂
God. I really wish I could go back to this era as a Rockets fan. CP and Harden was the best and way too short lived
Mike Dantoni sounding exactly like Larry David is a histerical mistery to my french ears.
More old time KD analysis please.
Mike Banner Explaining Basketball from different universe to Ben Wayne, . . Dang Marvel and Dc got me here
He made a really good point fans at home need to realize, the game is heavily dependent on stats now. The entire playbook is based off efficiency, so at home, when you watch these guys do something and scratch your head, it might be something that has worked all year long. A good example of this was the Lakers offense last year, it was a heavy diet of LeBron isolation and 1 on 1s. Fans at home were mad the ball wasn't moving, but when you dove into the analytics the LeBron post up was their only efficient offense for the most part. Every playbook now, offense or defense is heavily dependent on statistics as much as people don't wanna believe that
I want to see MDA coach Trae Young
great video
Well the Hawks just fired Nate McMillan. MDA is the perfect coach for the current Hawks with Dejounte and Trae
we need dantoni to the sixers !!!!!
Please become the sixers coach.
You are so Right
For me was pretty.
It's important to have player who can beat one on one
i'm amazed he knew the PPP off the top of his head
Basketball fans.
My Spurs put on a passing clinic vs Miami in the Finals.
Thanks for attending my TedTalk.
You also didn’t have a dominant 1 on 1 player.
@@PNL1992 and the heat aggressively hedged and trapped instead of switching so ball movement is the counter to that
@@PNL1992
We had Tim Duncan
And timeless basketball to watch forever.
As opposed to unwatchable Houston games...
@@Loris71734
Nothing's perfect.
But it's mostly EFFORT...
Again, Tim played in credible All Star games - not "public practice"...
But as long as they cash cheques and get Twitter mentions/Tiktok shares...
@@darrengordon-hillI love Duncan but by that point you couldn't felt on him in isolation for long stretches
Imagine him having a better defensive assistant coach like Doc did with Thibs. He could've won a ring by now.
Coach Pringles shaved his 'stache!
Most underrated coach all time just cuz casuals wanna mention rings. If CP3 doesn’t get injured, rockets take down the warriors we all know it, 3-2 lead before cp3 goes down
I still wonder what the 2018 Rockets beat the Steph/KD Warriors alternative timeline would be like. How different would the league look right now?
i understand the analytics, but i feel like its short sighted, puts all the presure on James, and when playoffs come around and he needs help, the team hasnt developed the chemsitry to step up and carry the load
It’s designed to generate overall wins, not specific wins like playoffs. If you look at the numbers, 18-19 Rockets had the “most efficient offense” according to statistics.
They did something right, but Murphy’s Law exists, and in a grand picture, they lost 4 games against the Warriors in the Playoffs, but got a bunch more Ws in other scenarios.
What if Mavs fire Kidd and hire Mike D'Antoni? That'd make them the best offence in the league. Also, the Hawks just sacked Nate McMillan.
where do you get all these moments from games?
man this team was so damn close to taking those fuckers down
We went from this offensive mastermind… to Stephen Silas 🤦🏼♂️
Where the fall interview?
I think it looked pretty, maybe not exotic
Harden should have won like 2 more MVPs when he was playing with the Rockets
That offense was definitely pretty
the description is in the link
Its weird when the face matches the voice
guys like Stephen a smith give mike a bad reputation as a coach and is always trying to slander his name from getting the good coaching jobs. He'd be a better coach for the 6ers
But what he is ignoring is that without the passing the were the most efficient but they couldn't win a chip playing that way because winning at the highest level required the whole team to be at their best and when guys are doing that much watching it's impossible for them all to be in a flow
That's a gibberish narrative. The Rockets were literally a couple 3 pointers made away from winning game 7 in 2018 Western Conference Finals. There's no "right way to play basketball"
@@blacknetsmed yes there is you say a couple of 3's away from winning I say the one guy that system relied so heavily on ran out of gas
You need to simplify your question like your title. Things aren't that complicated.
This 17-18 team was probably the best rockets team in years. 60+ wins and I firmly believe they would’ve made the finals if cp3 was healthy
CP3 going down in that GS series is so unlucky. Who knows if they pull it off with him but they were looking great and things were pointing that way. Who knows how Harden/CP3s legacy would be if they were able to make it to that finals and win it all.
Still not sure what genius decided to move on from CP3 for Russ. Made no sense
I hate Zero Pass & 1-Pass Offense. 👎
The point guard should be passing the ball as he is crossing the Halfcourt line.
Which bball handbook did u read that in?
@@MrWillandtk UCONN Huskies legendary head coach Geno Auriemma hates poor ball movement with a passion. 👍 He demands that the point guard knows who they are going to pass the ball to BEFORE THE POINT GUARD CROSSES THE HALFCOURT LINE.
The 1st pass is not a catch & shoot situations. You gotta make the defense expend more energy chasing after 2 or 3 passes.
Hardest is a beast!
Don't put Curry in the same conversation as harden. That was a mega reach by you. Curry is nowhere near James in iso or skill. Nevermind talent they played with
lol cope
@@kingofthenoobs you can't argue boy
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268 cry baby girl
Isolation offense against elite defense especially in the playoffs will eventually get shut down. That's why the rockets of 18-19 couldn't win the championship. Warriors motion offense is much more difficult to defend as a defense having to chase Steph and Klay around. Dantoni is too stubborn to adapt and make adjustments during the series against the warriors.
Did you watch the video in full?
@@bruh_rick he didnt 🤣
0:47 -- Travel plus him jumping into Draymond for the foul.
The two big problems with Mike D’Antoni teams is that the offences are built for regular season success, but in 7 game series, when opposing defences can spend days planning against it, it’s not going to work. D’Antoni also simply didn’t focus enough on defence. Again, that will work during the regular season, but not in the playoffs.
You dont know what you’re talking about… it only didn’t work against the greatest team of all time, nothing was going to work against them… stop talking little boy
@@carter5599 The Warriors with KD were far from unbeatable.
@@Thanosdidtherighthing ? The only ways to beat GSW are to have a generational center like Shaq/Hakeem with good enough role players, or launch more 3's and "try" to limit their offense to only KD iso 2's
@@Thanosdidtherighthingof course a niko bellic fan have 0 iq
This was the UGLIEST form of basketball ever .
Harden ruined basketball for 3 years .
Watching him play now if so much better than then .
Na
0-27 lol
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Holy shit it’s Mike D Antoni 😭💀 wasn’t really aware of the podcast episodes but I’m definitely tuned in now 🫱🏼🫲🏽
Ben thinks basketball so much he hasnt even got time to put furniture in his room
I can look in his eyes and see the trauma Stephen Curry instilled on him lol
he looked happy to me lol
@@drewmark3549 yes he did but the look in his eyes + not mentioning Steph once says it all
@@futurehofer1564 Steph was TERRIBLE in those Rockets series…. Especially in 2018.
@@Thanosdidtherighthing what 💀
Also a major reason for their lack of playoff success, if you don't move the ball, over a 7 game series, the defense gets a read on you
but they were able to make GSW lose their ball movement as well, that's the key. GSW wasn't an iso team.
Lack of playoff success? What team competed with the Warriors? They went toe to toe with one of the greatest dynasties in basketball history.
I think Curry, Durant, Klay and Green (along with West, Iggy, Livingston, etc.) had more to do with their “lack of playoff success” than their offensive system.
If Houston doesn't miss 27 straight threes they would have beaten the superteam warriors, and likely won the championship that year. I don't think it was a schematic fault of theirs.
@@conehed1138 not even 27 straight, they were cooked by the 4 min mark in the third. they wanted out.
@@PNL1992 Harden went from being a 36.2% 3pt shooter in Houston regular seasons to a 32.4% 3pt shooter in Houston playoffs…. He simply declined too much in the playoffs statistically across the board.
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Mike always runs his players into the ground. Watching beard flop around like a fish drove me away from basketball. It worked great, I’m glad it never won.
I'm very happy they never won. It's ugly and predictable basketball
"The most efficient offense in NBA history" but still couldn't win the Big One, when it mattered..
@Mad J Excuses lol
@Mad J Cool, so where's the Ring?
@Mad J there’s zero guarantee the rockets win fool. They just couldn’t get it done
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Man. He's avoiding the actual issue which is the entire offence is based around Harden's fraudulent moves and depending on the refs to bail him out. He couldn't get those calls and no-calls in the playoffs and everything collapsed. People liked CP3 in the offence because it was real basketball that predictably wasn't going to fall apart.
I do not understand Mike D’Antoni’s accent. It sounds like he’s a Southern cowboy trying to change his accent to be more Northeastern? He ends up sounding British? What is going on?
How does he sound British in the slightest ? Lol
@@Thanosdidtherighthing Australian accents are like a tick off from Australian. Where do you think it came from?
lmao def wasn't pretty to watch
D'Antoni: worst coach in NBA history.
Nope
you misspelled "one of the greatest coaches"
That last comment about Kevin Durant being the best iso player in the league destroying Master Splinter and his one Ninja Turtle Chris Paul was pretty funny.
Probably the best team to lose before the finals. They took the best team ever in my opinion to 7 games
Not only that, they were down a CP3 and took them to miss 27 threes in a row to lose game 7.
@@KniGht1st1 and only lost by 9 points
They would have won if Ariza just hit a couple of them.
Effort vs Talent = GSW squeezed by.
Lets be honest the Warriors weren’t even trying the first 5 games of that series, because if we were it would’ve been a gentleman sweep for us
Love the insights from d’antoni, also cool to see he still remembers some of those analytics numbers
Loved this episode, and it's great seeing the joy in Mike's face when he's talking about why it was so efficient even if it wasn't pretty.
Rockets fan since 90. People didn't like it but they couldn't stop it. It just didn't work in the playoffs bc Harden wasn't getting the same calls. Even still if CP3 never gets hurts..... that will always sting.
Fact
Dont tell me enjoyed this fat, flopping choker taking 30 FTs.
Are you sure your a rockets fan??? It definitely worked in the playoffs. I don't know if you know but the rockets lost a 7 game series by 3 points to the greatest team of all time missing their 3nd best player.
@@aarong9128 3nd
The difference in calls was a factor - you just aren’t going to get the lazy assumption calls/lazy defense fouls youll get in the regular season and so some contact goes uncalled and foul rates go down. Added to this was that Harden’s 3 point efficiency decreased in the playoffs.
I think this rockets team kinda showed that it’s really risky to make drawing fouls a serious part of your offensive strategy
James Harden is the reason why i started watching NBA. This guy's skillset is just amazing to watch and such a game changer. One of the greatest scorers to ever play. Huge respect for coach Mike D'Antoni for recognizing Harden's offensive skills.
@Mr. Melendez those people are fkn idiots. Boo hoo he flops to get free points - so do plenty of others. He's just so smooth and phenomenal at offence, has a million ways to score and pass. Genius bball IQ
Same
same, and imagine am from Africa where football is the only sport we exposed to, harden was just different gravy 🥶🥶 especially with " cooking" celebration he used to do 🔥🥵
His skill set was pretty limited, and once defenses keyed in on him, he crumbled.
he was getting double teamed and triple teamed, if you put him in isolation, he could score with any skillset@@mrskinszszs