I think Dean was exactly what Ryan was talking about - people who think that love is enough. "I paint houses, I come home, I love you and I love Frenckie" But he didn't think about this practical part of life. And that's what Sindie was telling him "You have so much potencial. Why don't you do anything with it?" So Dean was not really trying - he did what he thought was enough - just loving them. And that's pretty much what Ryan is talking about very well in this interview.
@@chamblabla If their name is any indication then English is not their first language, also as I'm replying to a 7 month old comment you were replying to a 9 year old comment
...a wildly difficult film to watch simply because it's so real. I'm sure many people in its audience have experienced, first hand, at least some of the things these characters go through. and, as the portrayal of these events is rendered so honestly, it can make for a challenge just to get through the whole thing... but when you do, the end title sequence is amazing.
Exactly, Ryan! love is definitely not enough. there is so much more to it and the very expectation of perfection is a flaw in itself. what a fantastic movie. probably my favorite ever. will stay with me forever. wow, still speechless at how heartbreakingly beautiful it is
Part of the job of women, of course, is to domesticate men…. But I’ve heard that if you do too many dishes, and you’re too much of a homebody that a woman will become less interested in you. Even though we’re supposed to be 50-50 in relationships now in manner supposed to be feminists, and women are supposed to be entirely free to be whatever they wanna be. Mysteries remain… We say we want some thing… But we secretly want something else or we’re kind of genetically programmed to want something else and we’re culturally programmed to want two or three conflicting things. Gotta keep those lines of communication open… And keep working on yourself.
Of course there is a point. Who doesn't want to be happy with one person forever? That's the point. Just because it is a risk doesn't mean it's not worth trying. It takes real commitment and work and dedication. You have to show your love through your actions continually. Same for your partner. If that's hard or feels like work then you need to ask yourself why. Sometimes people just aren't as compatible as they first thought. Sometimes one half does more of the work and grows resentful while the other becomes complacent. Sometimes one grows afraid of the future and commitment but if both are serious and try and are meant to be together, then it can and does work. It's not meant to be picture perfect 24/7. You enjoy the good times and work through the bad. You accept that neither of you are perfect. I think too many young people think they deserve a Disney Prince/Princess without realising they aren't one themselves. Or freak out at the first sign of trouble not realising that there will always be some kind trouble here and there. It's normal.
There's loads of reasons as to why she acted the way she did with Dean throughout the movie. You have to compare their love like a mix between 'Antony and Cleopatra' and 'Romeo and Juliet'. She was skeptical at the beginning after being fucked over by her boyfriend when he didn't pull out and (most likely) got her pregnant. After that she did fall in love with Dean, but that love turned into love through a need of depending on someone when she had discovered she was pregnant...(con)
This is a great film. A story about falling in love and falling out of love. Heartbreaking but it will leave you smiling at the end. Ryan Gosling was amazing so was Michelle Williams.
you know he really gives me hope, that there are still people out there, who like him and I understand that just loving someone isnt enough. relationships are always a lot of work. even friendships need some work, but love relationships even more. im also the kind of human who understands that its our flaws that make us special. BEEING PERFECT IS BORING. why would you want a perfect relationship? everything would be the way you expect it to be, would that be boring to you?
My boyfriend reminds me of Ryan Gosling so much which is why I decided to watch this movie and I'm so glad I did. Goslings character is funny and the couple seemed so real. It is not your everyday movie type fairytale romance (it's very realistic), watch it with your significant other, you may learn something about each other...
they really didn't know each other well enough to make that sober conscious decision to get married-- they didn't want the same things [which was made painfully obvious in the dissolution of their marriage] so they were ultimately wrong for each other in the end-- it's sad [because of their child & the years they spent] but it's a reality; you really have to know who you are, be in tune with what you want & how to get it, & make sure the one you find to love understands that & is on board.
That movie broke my heart. Maybe because Dean is too attractive. Real needy people that I know are weary : they have a weak voice, and an insecure body language. I wish Ryan showed that more. Maybe then it would not have been so hard to see him leave?...
(con)... So during her pregnancy phase Dean was always there for her and their love blossomed and became stupidly passionate. Around this time in a tragedy both of them die and their love feels tremendously powerful to the reader/viewer. But they didn't die, so after she had gained a job, the arguments started and she had become less dependent on him her love began to fade. Their love blossomed and an unstable time for her, and so without that exact, constant instability their love faded.
People usually do not see or get , " the happily ever after part" until they're older i've seen. Moving too fast on the beginning. Not enough trust, doubt, or something else all fear or self-seeking related. Sucks that so many people are like this and give up morally and with decisions for a long time and they make the wrong choices for a long time.... It's even made me "not really want to do people anymore". Only friends i have are family a few buddies, and trust to hope, and to God that there"s a good girl out there somewhere eventually. I've had the pleasure of being through both and learning to see the red flags and the good ones. The "honeymoon period" is about 3 to 6 months sometimes longer lol... The only person you can really judge is yourself and your actions in the end. I'm not a psychiatrist. You don't have to take my word for it.
Birth control. Planned pregnancy. So many people end up feeling trapped or stunted because they decided to " do the right thing". It's not necessarily right, it's usually the most convenient and affordable thing- to try to make it work with your child's other parent. Add substance abuse and stir. This movie was so real and so heart wrenching.
I don't think that's true. Notice, sometimes when she talks to him she has intentions of making a joke or complementing him, and he twists it and makes a big deal about it. Every little thing she does is amplified. I agree with you that he is reaching his limit as well. They are both hurt and hurting equally. Because they just don't really "talk" in the "old" half of the movie. It's like they are speaking to walls. That's the beauty of the movie, in my opinion, how frail their love is.
Ryan himself says in this interview that it's not that kind of movie where there is this perfect couple or even a couple who wants the same things. After some time now, since I've seen it [which was sour and ya, difficult to watch], I agree with Ryan that it can serve as a cautionary tale in a way. I know women like Michelle Williams' character in this film who are or might feel somewhat enchanted when meeting someone at first & then act like that means that they have to be/stay with this person
So loving the family he has isn't trying to love the family? I agree with choose... really seemed like Dean was trying the whole time, and she's was all like "Don't bother with us anymore"
I was looking for a sweet romantic movie, boy was I wrong. But one of the best movies I've ever seen - not a movie I'd see again, not because it was bad, but because it was just too hearbreaking and devastating. I couldn't take how Cindy kept pushing Dean away while he gave all the love in the world to her that he possibly could. Also, it really annoyed me how she couldn't accept and value him for him because of his social and job status. I really didn't like her.
you really have to know yourself [which can ridiculous when you're still young] and the other person and make sure you both want the same things; know if you have similar interests when it comes to certain important things [in life] or some kind of foundation that connects the both of you-- they had their child but there is this saying that 'you should never have a kid to save a relationship' -so maybe having a kid to create a marriage when you just started dating doesn't work either
Michelle Williams' character was a Pre-Med student when she met Dean; somehow in between getting pregnant & married, she never fulfilled that dream. She became a nurse instead where the Dr. hits on her while she's in a marriage she obvi. regrets which is a slap in the face. Cindy was actually pretty weak because she wasn't being honest with herself or with Dean and consequently it got to the point where she was just being mean & lashing out [which is what made her seem like a 'bitch' to you]--
I am a heterosexual man, and as I am very comfortable with my own sexuality, I have no problem saying that Mr. Gosling is a goddamn insanely fucking handsome gentleman. If I were a woman, I'd totally do him.
Because I watch so many foreign movies (Bergman, Antonini, Czech, etc.) and pretty much can't stand most Hollywood and "independent" American films (but love "BrokeBack Mountain"), Blue Valentine didn't seem like a huge revelation to me but it was a very good movie.
You have to understand where she might be coming from. I felt the same too while watching it but that's coming from the presumptuous perspective of one who is rooting for the characters/couple because it's a family. However, the truth of her story is that she was a young college girl who went from 1 relationship to another so suddenly & then found herself pregnant and part of this family with a guy that she should have known and dated a lot longer before making that kind of serious commitment-
@ELNDJ I do not think it is that simple. He became enamoured with her, and through that they fell in love. But the reality of falling in love, is staying in love. It happens. It isn't the teenage fantasy of love, its the love that goes on the back burner for family, careers, children, life, past mistakes, future problems. She fell for a man who saw only optimism and joy, and he fell to his shortcoming as a provider and adult. She being the pragmatic one, became cold. It's sad, not her fault.
@ELNDJ I dont know why you would say that, since you do not know me, but I have and it's fact. You just can't endlessly be in love for the sake of romance. It gets hurt when its not respected. It has to be mutual. I agree he is more in love with her, but its the responsibility of both to nurture it. She was always the one having to be chased, but it doesn't mean there was nothing there.
that's why, & I'm just speaking for myself personally, I've always been super against 'settling' because you can lose yourself in the process of doing so or end up at some breaking point as well and bitter about it or change the course of your life all because you weren't being honest with yourself or you just happened to rush into something-- of course, the opposite can be just as bad because then you can find yourself at a standstill but that's all irrelevant here...
@brightstarinthesky i totally agree with you...Wrong wardrobe desicions!! He looked like a paranoid killer ( just how he was in the movie All Good Things)!!
um... you could say that A LOT of people on the surface [or not-- once they start speaking and prove you're right] seem to lack any depth or spirit... Plenty of people but that's it.. they are Real people-- just because you perhaps couldn't relate to those 'jaded adults' doesn't mean that they don't exist and aren't out there and that this kind of thing doesn't happen-
Hollywood is in such short supply of beauty that someone like Angelina is sold to the public as "beautiful." Monica Bellucci is the only classic beauty I can think of right now, but she is Italian and not well known in the U.S. Robert Redford is classically beautiful and intelligent...Brad Pitt is a pale imitation w/out the depth, charm or wit. I would take Ryan Gosling over a Brad Pitt any day of the weekend.
@brightstarinthesky I think that the stress of the relationship made him that way. I mean six years of fighting on and off is horrible for your health.
The thing about Ryan G. is that he is not truly handsome. He is not what say Brad Pitt was when Brad was Ryan's age. He is like Jeniffer Aniston: not truly beautiful but because she works out and presents herself in a very polished way, she is considered hot. Ryan has narrow shoulders, his face is cute but definitely not gorgeous. But he is extremely ripped and well kept so that's why a lot of people think he is hot. I'm sure if u work out a lot and find your style in clothing, you'l b "hot"2
I think Dean was exactly what Ryan was talking about - people who think that love is enough. "I paint houses, I come home, I love you and I love Frenckie" But he didn't think about this practical part of life. And that's what Sindie was telling him "You have so much potencial. Why don't you do anything with it?" So Dean was not really trying - he did what he thought was enough - just loving them. And that's pretty much what Ryan is talking about very well in this interview.
Lol dude you've gotta learn how to spell please before you try and make meaningful statements on the internet...
@@chamblabla
If their name is any indication then English is not their first language, also as I'm replying to a 7 month old comment you were replying to a 9 year old comment
...a wildly difficult film to watch simply because it's so real.
I'm sure many people in its audience have experienced, first hand, at least some of the things these characters go through. and, as the portrayal of these events is rendered so honestly, it can make for a challenge just to get through the whole thing... but when you do, the end title sequence is amazing.
Exactly, Ryan! love is definitely not enough. there is so much more to it and the very expectation of perfection is a flaw in itself. what a fantastic movie. probably my favorite ever. will stay with me forever. wow, still speechless at how heartbreakingly beautiful it is
Part of the job of women, of course, is to domesticate men…. But I’ve heard that if you do too many dishes, and you’re too much of a homebody that a woman will become less interested in you. Even though we’re supposed to be 50-50 in relationships now in manner supposed to be feminists, and women are supposed to be entirely free to be whatever they wanna be.
Mysteries remain… We say we want some thing… But we secretly want something else or we’re kind of genetically programmed to want something else and we’re culturally programmed to want two or three conflicting things. Gotta keep those lines of communication open… And keep working on yourself.
this movie is so cool because a lot of it was improvised
The past sequences were improvised, the present sequences were scripted for the most part.
This movie fucked me up and makes me feel like there is no point in marriage and being happy with one person forever
thought it was just me,,,,
+Sanna Vee. This. Couldn't have said it better
Of course there is a point. Who doesn't want to be happy with one person forever? That's the point. Just because it is a risk doesn't mean it's not worth trying. It takes real commitment and work and dedication. You have to show your love through your actions continually. Same for your partner. If that's hard or feels like work then you need to ask yourself why. Sometimes people just aren't as compatible as they first thought. Sometimes one half does more of the work and grows resentful while the other becomes complacent. Sometimes one grows afraid of the future and commitment but if both are serious and try and are meant to be together, then it can and does work. It's not meant to be picture perfect 24/7. You enjoy the good times and work through the bad. You accept that neither of you are perfect. I think too many young people think they deserve a Disney Prince/Princess without realising they aren't one themselves. Or freak out at the first sign of trouble not realising that there will always be some kind trouble here and there. It's normal.
nah
go back 2 film school
Great Film. Great acting from Ryan and Michelle.
Top class.
There's loads of reasons as to why she acted the way she did with Dean throughout the movie. You have to compare their love like a mix between 'Antony and Cleopatra' and 'Romeo and Juliet'. She was skeptical at the beginning after being fucked over by her boyfriend when he didn't pull out and (most likely) got her pregnant. After that she did fall in love with Dean, but that love turned into love through a need of depending on someone when she had discovered she was pregnant...(con)
"people that think love is enough"
Ryan in that leather jacket on that bridge will forever be the sexiest thing in the world to me.
What he says about movies nowadays having characters that are either good or bad is so true. People are more complicated than that!
Nowadays? Thats how its always been
This is a great film. A story about falling in love and falling out of love. Heartbreaking but it will leave you smiling at the end. Ryan Gosling was amazing so was Michelle Williams.
I've never had a real relationship, but somehow this movie makes me feel like I understood it all, at least how it must be.
Checking in buddy, you ever get there?
you know he really gives me hope, that there are still people out there, who like him and I understand that just loving someone isnt enough. relationships are always a lot of work. even friendships need some work, but love relationships even more. im also the kind of human who understands that its our flaws that make us special.
BEEING PERFECT IS BORING. why would you want a perfect relationship? everything would be the way you expect it to be, would that be boring to you?
HIS FACE WAS SCULPTED BY ANGELS!!!!!!!! 💟💟❤❤
My boyfriend reminds me of Ryan Gosling so much which is why I decided to watch this movie and I'm so glad I did. Goslings character is funny and the couple seemed so real. It is not your everyday movie type fairytale romance (it's very realistic), watch it with your significant other, you may learn something about each other...
so..hes perfect
Very fresh and so real.....this is what I loved about this film!
Why does he have to be so perfect...
No body has to be perfect but everyone must try to understand what's wrong in between them and must think of ways to figure them out...
their expectations weren't stupid, they just weren't in sync.
Ryan Gosling is so intelligent.
they really didn't know each other well enough to make that sober conscious decision to get married-- they didn't want the same things [which was made painfully obvious in the dissolution of their marriage] so they were ultimately wrong for each other in the end-- it's sad [because of their child & the years they spent] but it's a reality; you really have to know who you are, be in tune with what you want & how to get it, & make sure the one you find to love understands that & is on board.
Easier said than done...Dr. Phil ?
Great film.
That movie broke my heart. Maybe because Dean is too attractive. Real needy people that I know are weary : they have a weak voice, and an insecure body language. I wish Ryan showed that more. Maybe then it would not have been so hard to see him leave?...
(con)... So during her pregnancy phase Dean was always there for her and their love blossomed and became stupidly passionate. Around this time in a tragedy both of them die and their love feels tremendously powerful to the reader/viewer. But they didn't die, so after she had gained a job, the arguments started and she had become less dependent on him her love began to fade. Their love blossomed and an unstable time for her, and so without that exact, constant instability their love faded.
@@sahanabiswas12 your comment is everywhere sheesh
People usually do not see or get , " the happily ever after part" until they're older i've seen.
Moving too fast on the beginning. Not enough trust, doubt, or something else all fear or self-seeking related. Sucks that so many people are like this and give up morally and with decisions for a long time and they make the wrong choices for a long time....
It's even made me "not really want to do people anymore".
Only friends i have are family a few buddies, and trust to hope, and to God that there"s a good girl out there somewhere eventually.
I've had the pleasure of being through both and learning to see the red flags and the good ones. The "honeymoon period" is about 3 to 6 months sometimes longer lol... The only person you can really judge is yourself and your actions in the end.
I'm not a psychiatrist. You don't have to take my word for it.
Birth control. Planned pregnancy. So many people end up feeling trapped or stunted because they decided to " do the right thing". It's not necessarily right, it's usually the most convenient and affordable thing- to try to make it work with your child's other parent. Add substance abuse and stir. This movie was so real and so heart wrenching.
I don't think that's true. Notice, sometimes when she talks to him she has intentions of making a joke or complementing him, and he twists it and makes a big deal about it. Every little thing she does is amplified. I agree with you that he is reaching his limit as well. They are both hurt and hurting equally. Because they just don't really "talk" in the "old" half of the movie. It's like they are speaking to walls. That's the beauty of the movie, in my opinion, how frail their love is.
Very smart guy it seems
Ryan himself says in this interview that it's not that kind of movie where there is this perfect couple or even a couple who wants the same things. After some time now, since I've seen it [which was sour and ya, difficult to watch], I agree with Ryan that it can serve as a cautionary tale in a way. I know women like Michelle Williams' character in this film who are or might feel somewhat enchanted when meeting someone at first & then act like that means that they have to be/stay with this person
Thank you so so much for this.
So loving the family he has isn't trying to love the family? I agree with choose... really seemed like Dean was trying the whole time, and she's was all like "Don't bother with us anymore"
I was looking for a sweet romantic movie, boy was I wrong. But one of the best movies I've ever seen - not a movie I'd see again, not because it was bad, but because it was just too hearbreaking and devastating. I couldn't take how Cindy kept pushing Dean away while he gave all the love in the world to her that he possibly could. Also, it really annoyed me how she couldn't accept and value him for him because of his social and job status. I really didn't like her.
you really have to know yourself [which can ridiculous when you're still young] and the other person and make sure you both want the same things; know if you have similar interests when it comes to certain important things [in life] or some kind of foundation that connects the both of you-- they had their child but there is this saying that 'you should never have a kid to save a relationship' -so maybe having a kid to create a marriage when you just started dating doesn't work either
Great insight.
I love this movie. I love it.
I love Michelle with long hair (but to tell the truth, I love her every way) :)
Michelle Williams' character was a Pre-Med student when she met Dean; somehow in between getting pregnant & married, she never fulfilled that dream. She became a nurse instead where the Dr. hits on her while she's in a marriage she obvi. regrets which is a slap in the face. Cindy was actually pretty weak because she wasn't being honest with herself or with Dean and consequently it got to the point where she was just being mean & lashing out [which is what made her seem like a 'bitch' to you]--
this movie rocked. ryan gosling and michelle williams acted their faces off.
Sometimes people are blinded by love
@americkibosanac It left me both crying and smiling at the same time. Crying because the movie is sad, smiling because the movie is beautiful.
I am a heterosexual man, and as I am very comfortable with my own sexuality, I have no problem saying that Mr. Gosling is a goddamn insanely fucking handsome gentleman. If I were a woman, I'd totally do him.
Because I watch so many foreign movies (Bergman, Antonini, Czech, etc.) and pretty much can't stand most Hollywood and "independent" American films (but love "BrokeBack Mountain"), Blue Valentine didn't seem like a huge revelation to me but it was a very good movie.
love this movie
Amen to that!
I think the same. He deserved a better wife.
@choosejuicy2 thank u!! THANK U I felt the same thing!!! What a crapy way to treat him!!
You have to understand where she might be coming from. I felt the same too while watching it but that's coming from the presumptuous perspective of one who is rooting for the characters/couple because it's a family. However, the truth of her story is that she was a young college girl who went from 1 relationship to another so suddenly & then found herself pregnant and part of this family with a guy that she should have known and dated a lot longer before making that kind of serious commitment-
@ELNDJ I do not think it is that simple. He became enamoured with her, and through that they fell in love. But the reality of falling in love, is staying in love. It happens. It isn't the teenage fantasy of love, its the love that goes on the back burner for family, careers, children, life, past mistakes, future problems. She fell for a man who saw only optimism and joy, and he fell to his shortcoming as a provider and adult. She being the pragmatic one, became cold. It's sad, not her fault.
I love this movie!!!
This is a very good movie.
So i guess after watching this film, expect a call from me Ryan ;)
Gawwwwllll i wanna seeeeeee
fkn brilliant movie
@ELNDJ I dont know why you would say that, since you do not know me, but I have and it's fact. You just can't endlessly be in love for the sake of romance. It gets hurt when its not respected. It has to be mutual. I agree he is more in love with her, but its the responsibility of both to nurture it. She was always the one having to be chased, but it doesn't mean there was nothing there.
that's why, & I'm just speaking for myself personally, I've always been super against 'settling' because you can lose yourself in the process of doing so or end up at some breaking point as well and bitter about it or change the course of your life all because you weren't being honest with yourself or you just happened to rush into something-- of course, the opposite can be just as bad because then you can find yourself at a standstill but that's all irrelevant here...
It's more than that
Idk who you are but you just made me LOL, die laughing. Glad you're comfy in your own skin!
@brightstarinthesky i totally agree with you...Wrong wardrobe desicions!! He looked like a paranoid killer ( just how he was in the movie All Good Things)!!
um... you could say that A LOT of people on the surface [or not-- once they start speaking and prove you're right] seem to lack any depth or spirit... Plenty of people but that's it.. they are Real people-- just because you perhaps couldn't relate to those 'jaded adults' doesn't mean that they don't exist and aren't out there and that this kind of thing doesn't happen-
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Hollywood is in such short supply of beauty that someone like Angelina is sold to the public as "beautiful." Monica Bellucci is the only classic beauty I can think of right now, but she is Italian and not well known in the U.S.
Robert Redford is classically beautiful and intelligent...Brad Pitt is a pale imitation w/out the depth, charm or wit.
I would take Ryan Gosling over a Brad Pitt any day of the weekend.
I know, she pissed me off the whole movie, he really gave it his all and all she did was reject him!!
The movie was it all
@brightstarinthesky I think that the stress of the relationship made him that way. I mean six years of fighting on and off is horrible for your health.
@choosejuicy2 well then you actually did figure out her character, because thats exactly how it was.
@TheMayangJ super true haha
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
Oh Jesus
@TheMayangJ you mean crying at the end
@atlffee Oh no! I hope they're both okay! :)
@teenwolffan247 HAHAHAH yes. yes it was.
i hate happy endings
The thing about Ryan G. is that he is not truly handsome. He is not what say Brad Pitt was when Brad was Ryan's age. He is like Jeniffer Aniston: not truly beautiful but because she works out and presents herself in a very polished way, she is considered hot. Ryan has narrow shoulders, his face is cute but definitely not gorgeous.
But he is extremely ripped and well kept so that's why a lot of people think he is hot.
I'm sure if u work out a lot and find your style in clothing, you'l b "hot"2
hey! ur dumb
Stop Stop Stop!!!! no no no STOP!
@Atma Ram Neupane no, that makes you human
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THe female lead character in this movie is so selfish.