SEPARETT TINY TOILET REVIEW - Is this the best toilet for life on the road???
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2022
- How do you manage your poo? In our Separett Tiny toilet review, we share our experiences with a compost toilet whilst living on the road. We've spent years using cassette toilets, so fitting a compost toilet into our overland truck was a big step. Find out how it went (and where the poo went) here, along with our honest thoughts and some top tips for the Seperatt Tiny compost (not composting) toilet.
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Never in a million years would I have thought that I would be so interested and enjoy a review about a toilet! ☺️ ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Charlie - glad you enjoyed it!
🤡 i’ve been watching toilet reviews too
That was not too much information, that was actually very helpful and something nobody has ever mentioned before.
Thank you, really appreciate the feedback 🙏
She’s right for us stand and wipers! Thank you for the FULL info !
LOL, glad to have helped :)
By the way that was not too much information. That was some thing I never would’ve thought of so thanks for leaving that in there.
LOL, glad it helped :)
Very good and honest description of the difference in a composting toilet and compost toilet. 👍👍
Thank you ☺
This is an excellent and very honest and thorough review. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Really great review. And just what I needed to help in my decision-making in regards to our toilet replacement. Thank you!
Hi Jolene, thanks for your comment, so pleased we could help!
Thank you so much for making this detailed and practical review. I have been considering so many different composting and dry toilets for the past six months for our narrowboat. The tiny the period the best and with your review, this is definitely the one to go for for our needs. Thanks again.
Hi Andrew Glad that our video helped in your decision making, you won't regret it :)
Thank you; your explanations were clear. You're a fun team helping us all solve travel problems. ~ Steve, Utah, USA
Glad to help!
Fabulous review. Thanks for all the practical tips.
Thank you so much, Happy New Year
Thanks for the review. Helped us in making to the decision to get the Tiny for our camper. Happy travels 👍🏻
You’re welcome!
Excellent video. Really clear and straightforward. Well done both of you. We are thinking of getting one. Just need to get the measurements right. But thanks for explaining it all. Nice work.
Great video. Did not think the female portion was TMI at all.
Hi Victoria, you're not the first lady to say that, thank you 👍🏻😀
Excellent review. We have been using a Separett Tiny for about 5 months and are very pleased with it. We are team "ditch the tablet" ... and have had no trouble. I came to view this video in order to find a good one to pass along to some friends. Well done!
Thank you, great name 😀
Appreciate the feedback 🙏
Well done video, not the first I watched but definitely the best
Hi, Robert, appreciated thank you
Found this so useful, thank you. We are considering Vanlife and will be travelling with 4 primary aged children and so the toilet option has been such a hot topic - who would have thought we'd end up talking about poo so much! This was such a great and helpful review and as a Mum to five girls (4 travelling with us) the stand up to wipe was not to much information! lol Appreciated it :-)
I'm so glad it was helpful! It's a sad fact of van life that you talk about poo, but sort of important too :) Good luck if you decided to go for it - your kids will thank you forever x
The best in depth review ive seen for the toilet. Thanks so much. It's not a small investment so trying to find out as much as possible before we buy one.
Thank you, really appreciate the feedback 🙏
that is great vlog, Im just researching which loo and this makes me the seperett tiny top of the list
Thank you, we're at the early stages of another build and we will definitely be installing another Separett Tiny, they're excellent 🙏😀
Very good explanation.
I recently bought one to add in a bathroom, keeping the traditional ones, because we are expecting water shortage this summer and I think it weird to keep on peeing in drinkable water in such case.
I have been using it for 10 dans.
It's easy to use and to clean.
There was no "too much details" in your explanation because we all wondered how to use it properly...
I do not regret my purchase.
I keep the classic toilets for people comming home, but only use the tiny separett myself.
I had been hesitating for more than a year.... now I am convinced I should have bought it much earlier without any hesitation.
Very good product 👍
Thank you for the feedback and really interesting to hear the reason for your purchase, pleased you're happy with it.
Very informative. Looks like a winner.
Definately a great addition to our truck. Wouldn't be without it now :)
when you said shes better placed i thought oh no she cant be 😂 this will be my choice of toilet thanks
😁😁 Pleasure 🙏
Excellent vid, thank you. I think this option beats out the OGO Toilet that I have been considering. Cheers!
Hey our pleasure, appreciate the feedback. We're in the middle of a new truck build and will be fitted the same toilet, it's been brilliant. 🙏
very good video, earned my sub!
Great, appreciate the feedback 🙏😀
The crystals pod is for preventing build up in a plumbing system. When you have the urine container that’s not an issue, so the pod is only there to assist with scent. Just fyi. Great vid.
Thanks Josh, appreciate the feedback :)
This is a great video! BTW, Separett offers a urine diverting drain plumbing system that eliminates the urine holding tank. This is useful for retrofitting RVs with a black water tank. The urine is then diverted to the black water tank. The black and gray water tanks can be plumbed together to increase time between needing to dump them.
Off grid homesteads can install a gray water leach field in order to use the diversion plumbing.
Thanks for sharing, that's super helpful!
i just bought one and am excited about installing it in our rv, your review proved to me i made the right decision in my purchase
Hi Chris, thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment.
We're 20 months in with the Separett Tiny and we still rate it as our best upgrade to date. 🙏😀
@@TheGapDecaders what an awesome reply ... thank you for the update ... i'm so happy to hear how wonderful it is even after 20 months!!
😀
Truly informative.
thank you 😊
Very informative. In fact so good I wish I had installed in our van conversion rather than the cassette toilet - perhaps next time.
Thanks for the feedback - if you do fit one, you won't regret it!
Great video thx :)
Thanks!
Well done Mrs.
😀 Thankyou
Only one thing it's difficult I think, it mean how to put in used toilet paper to solid's storage. Idea to compost toilet is the most important to our rais. Great job and I wish you every thing best.
Hi Piotr, With the paper it works really well, we would definitely buy the same toilet if building another truck
Thanks for a very clear and useful review. One question, is stand up weeing allowed or would that just be a bit too splashy?
Not allowed.
There is a drawing on the lid showing you that you must seat.
If you stand up, why not considering to buy a simple urinak (urinoir) ? You can link it to a recepient...
That was not TMI when she was discussing wiping oneself. I imagine that most people have to lift their backsides off the seat to some extent when wiping themselves, thereby closing the trap door. Not a deal-killer, just an observation.
Hi, definitely a fair point and having lived with it full time now for 16 months, the seat works well for both men and woman. Would we buy another... absolutely yes. Appreciate the feedback 👍😀
Impecable
Thank you 😀
I'm not seeing how this solution is better than using an elderly potty chair with biodegradable liners and absorption pads. In both cases you don't have to look at your waste to get rid of it, and you still have to bin the waste bags. Although the potty chair solution requires a new liner for each user, it is overall far cheaper, more sanitary, requires less handling and has less impact on the environment.
Question- is that a separate piece between the liquid and solids section? That little ridge between the two, is that a separate piece or part of toilet and not-removeable? Thanks for the great review!
Thanks for the feedback! It’s a separate piece that just clicks in and out, so can be fully washed and the area underneath cleaned. Hope that helps :)
Hi. Thanks for a great review. We are just building an overland truck on a Mitsubishi 4x4 and trying to plan out the bathroom/ shower. I have been looking at the tiny for a while and had added it to my list of possibles for toilets but had a few things to ponder before making a final decision. Is yours fixed directly to your GRP fiberglass floor and if so how as I think it has 3 screw holes and also how about the venting. Does it smell as we would probably need to locate our vent pipe fairly close the habitation door. Anyway thanks for any advise offered. Of course now I am sat here watching all your other travel videos feeling inspired rather than getting on with design research. Its funny where a Sunday afternoon of toilet research takes you too !
Hi Julian thanks for the feedback. In terms of fixing, we have a marine ply sub floor to accommodate a shower tray and underfloor heating, so the toilet was fixed to that. Additionally it is screwed into marine ply with the two screws at the back. Regarding the venting, we core drilled through the floor and it comes out around 3m from the hab door. I can't say we've noticed any smell, but we don't always have the fan on (we fitted a rocker switch so we would turn it off) and don't tend to leave solid waste for too long before binning. Hope that helps, but ask away if you have any more questions :)
Hi Again.
Thanks a lot for the reply. By what you say I am assuming then that you don't have the toilet sat in the shower tray.?
I was also wondering what the internal dimensions of your habitation box are as it seems to be a bit of a tardis. It doesn't look long on the outside and yet seems long on the inside and really spacious. I am guessing it is quite tall which helps and also has lots of natural light.
Loving the travel videos. That is exactly what we hope to be doing before too long. I just have to build it first.
Hi Julian, you're right the loo is not mounted in the shower tray. The internal dimensions of the hab box are 5.14l x 2.2w x 2.21h - it's more narrow than standard, but taller which I think helps make it feel more spacious - although low hanging trees can be a problem! Glad you're enjoying the vids :)
How often does poo hit the pee area or other edges inside the toilet, instead of falling perfectly into the hole? Without water in the toilet, that would make using a toilet brush more difficult.
Hi! Thanks for your great review. Installing the Separett in our 1995 Hymer S580, quite a job because of the layout of the van’s hoses and pipes, but we’ll get there! One question: you turned the fan off so I think you have installed a 12v switch yourself? On ours there is none. Any tips on which one to install or just a normal 12v switch? Cheers and safe travels! Luz & Anthony
Hi both, thank you. If you watch the end screen you’ll get an idea of the hassle I had removing the old Thetford & getting into the sub floor, but it was soo worth it.
We would both still agree, after 12 months of full time use it’s our best upgrade to date.
I simply fitted a small round white 12v rocker switch (about £2 on Ebay) by drilling a small hole through the plastic housing (bottom rear). It's a really simple but useful upgrade. Hope that helps 😀
@@TheGapDecaders yes saw the end screen. Awesome job, thanks for answering and the tip for the switch, going to install it too, don’t want the fan on constantly. have great day!
Is the fan operated by a manual switch only? Just wondering if the fan was automatic in any way. Great video anyway, thanks.
Hi Scott the fan is designed to operate continuously. We fitted the switch ourselves so we could turn the fan off because I'm a light sleeper :)
Thank you for all that great information! where in the process do you add the coconut core - do you add it after cleaning and do you need to add more after each use? And for the ladies can the toilet paper for number ones go in the compartment for number two's?
Hi Wendy you don't add anything as it's not a composting toilet :) You need to empty the solids container every few days. Yes to the second question - as the solids go into a bag in the container, and then get binned you can add toilet paper. Hope that helps.
@@TheGapDecaders how often do you find yourself emptying the bin with two people?
@@bradenmackey8116 when we first fitted it, we emptied after almost every use - worried about smell I think. Eight months in, we keep the fan on and empty every 4-5 days - no smell whatsoever.
That's a Lot of work. I'll just drop it where I'm walking. Like a horse.
Just curious - how did you vent your Separett? Through the ceiling? Thru the side? Or thru the bottom? Are you having any odor issues outside around your coach? I just ordered this toilet and I can't wait for it to arrive! But I am concerned about how to vent it. I don't want to bother others with odors if they are near our van.
Hi there - we vented out the bottom on the opposite side to our habitation door, mainly because there was already a vent hole there from the previous cassette toilet. However, I would say that we have never had any external odours from the vent :)
Hmmm so its more of a poo in a bag then cheuck it system, not true composter, I'm pretty sure I'd make a big bowl mess (tend to be a blaster) as the bog hole is small and it would be tough to clean. Rate I have a Hollywood ending. Would like to see an update with a longer term review from you 2. Including not emptying poo for as long as possible to see how the stink goes.....and not using their bio tab (PS I think you CAN buy a non proprietary version......at least in liquid and powdered form). Perhaps the reality of when a neighbor with the Hershey squirts from too many a pint explodes on this plastic throne before and after.
Thanks for sharing about the Tiny Separette, I’ve been thinking about the same toilet. Why did you not order it or install the urine tube option to send the liquid waste directly to your gray tanks?
Hi and thank you. We didn't want to mix grey and black waste, we've meet a few people (one family of 5) who had a much larger tank fabricated (100l) with a drain off pipe and valve/tap coming out the side of the vehicle.
The only down side is freezing conditions, something I might do on. our new build.
@@TheGapDecaders Thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts. I'm thinking of installing the same toilet but with the urine tube to gray tank in my expedition camper build underway.
Can you tell me what you like about this model over a cassette toilet? Also, you were saying after you wipe, it’s hard to get the flaps to open to dispose of the toilet paper. How do you resolve that? Thanks so much! Great video!!
Hi Kim thanks for getting in touch. A cassette toilet is great if you plan to stay on campsites or aires in western Europe. Otherwise finding somewhere to empty the mix of wee and poo, combined with toilet paper can be difficult, for lots of reasons. Once it's full, it's full and if you can't find an emptying point ( in the UK there are hardly any outside of campsites) then you end up disposing of it illegally. With a compost loo like the Tiny you can dispose of wee pretty much anywhere, and the solids goes into general waste. If you want to know more about motorhome toilets and the different types, you can check out this post on our website bit.ly/2Ts8a9Q. In terms of the flaps, they open when weight is put on the toilet seat, and close again when you stand up. It's easy to move them aside manually and drop in your loo paper. Hope that helps :)
@@TheGapDecaders I appreciate the response so much. Very helpful. :)
You're very welcome :)
Actually, no toilet for human waste should be a 'composting' toilet, at least not anywhere where the 'compost' is used to grow or fertilize plants that have anything to do with humans. There's a reason farmers are not allowed to use human waste as a fertilizer whereas cow or even pig dung is ok.
Despite the Separett dry pad thingy, I'd add something to dry the poop. As long as you manage to dry the 💩, it has next to no smell. This is the second reason for the vent, btw, not just to keep the stink down. What we use is a bag of sawdust that we keep next to the toilet. The waste bag in the toilet is 'primed' with a 1/2" layer of sawdust and the 'flush' is sprinkling a layer of sawdust on top of the 💩. And it even works if you're a bit unwell and have a less-than-optimal consistency - you just use a little more sawdust than normal. We can go for a long time w/o emptying the waste bucket, and I am willing to bet it's even less offensive than what you have to deal with as it feels more or less a bag of sawdust and not a bunch of very soft hot dogs in mashed potatoes in a plastic bag :-)) . No odor whatsoever regardless of the temps. We have a toilet that I put together myself out of parts I ordered through the internet, and it is remarkably close to the Separett Tiny looks-wise. The biggest difference is no flap mechanism - which obviously makes the sawdust-sprinkling much more simple. The nice thing is, the next time you open the toilet, you only see a clean layer of sawdust.
Don’t understand why this doesn’t smell when you throw the poop out?
A year on how you getting on with this toilet iam looking at going similar route in my truck
Superb, it's our best upgrade to date & we'll definitely be fitting the updated version into our new build.
Gradually coming to terms with close contact of waste associated with using compost toilet, still have an important question though. When you stand after doing your business and the flaps closes, how do you dispose the toilet paper. Read a comment where u said you can manually separate the flaps and I find that slightly uncomfortable. Another question/option, does the flaps open when you press down on the front part of the seat and maybe with one hand? Or does it require a full force by both hands. Trying to understand how the system works, and looking for means to reduce as much contact and sight of waste as possible. I would like to dispose the tissue in there and also pour in some sawdust to reduce smell and direct ''looking at poop'' as MUCH AS POSSIBLE. In summary: CAN I OPEN THE FLAPS WITHOUT TOUCHING THEM, CAN I OPEN THE FLAPS BY PRESSING DOWN ON THE FRONT PART OF THE SEAT.
Hi there glad you found the video helpful. The flaps only open when you place equal pressure on either side of the seat towards the back of the loo. You can't open the flaps by pressing on the front of the seat. Probably the easiest way is to re-train yourself to wipe sitting down, then you do't have to touch or see anything. You also don't need sawdust (not for the smell anyway) unless you intend to fill the bag before emptying - we empty every 3-4 days. Hopes that helps :)
How easily available are those 30L disposable bags outside the country?
Hi Johnson, we've been able to get them in most European countries and tend to keep two to three rolls just in case. But you could use a bigger bag if you couldn’t get the 30's. 😀
wouldn't you say the shutter doors over the poo section is redundant? and something that would be difficult to clean? since the whole unit has a lid over the seat
Hi Kevin, hope you’ve had a good Christmas. Quite possibly however if we’re stationary for a few days we tend to leave the lid up & arguably you don't want to see the contents of the loo. In this state (lid up) it doesn’t smell despite the concealer flaps not being sealed.
This has genuinely been the best upgrade to our truck.
interesting. Do you have any idea why these things cost $1600 ? (here in Canada). aren't they just a bit more than a bucket with a cover? Is there any cheaper alternative?
Hi Ron, yep that seems a lot & essentially yes that’s pretty much what it is however it works perfectly, we've seen others up close but would still buy the same one. I'd love to recommend a much cheaper option but I'm not aware of any, if you find one let us know. 👍
Curious what's triggering the red 'full' light? Weight?
Hi Justin, there's a small float inside the urine container, not sure exactly what activates the red light, probably a simple electronic contact once it rises to that almost full point.
Not a comment on your STT or video (which was good BTW), just an observation on the product overall as I found it in your vids whilst browsing. It seems a lot more work that a Thetford and many non chemical additives are now available for those. Unless you are truly composting (and in the UK and EU) AFAIK no-one is, then you still have to carry bagged poo. If on exped how do you dispose of plastic bagged poo in the boonies? At least with a Thetford or similar you can safely (and environmentally) bury the waste, but at least with plastic bags you cannot (should not) be doing that and personally any compostable bags I find very unreliable and wouldn't trust them to hold a single days business never mind multiple days!
Do you add a medium like peet moss
Hi there no you don’t add anything as the toilet is not designed to start the composting process.
I got one here in usa and super frustrating experience with usa dealer; first they sent out the 1000$ knowing it need parts replaced which they sent but some reason can’t change themselves so that was first order of business once installed
Then the toilet paddles weren’t function correctly and moving out of the way so they sent me new hinge mechanism and to replace it requires you remove the toilet completely
Now I live full time so all this took over 5 weeks without a useable toilet
They too cheap to send the special tool T25 I think
I made video to show the compassion of why the other hinge may not of worked for their references
Was I pissed at having this ordeal yup I let them know but also gave them the reason to problem and you think I get any return emails nope one of the worse services / support ever
Now the toilet working the fan not as quiet as they lead u to think it’s tolerable but again is like get better fan and apparently over seas some use a slower speed fan to aid in reducing
The plastic toilet also attracts certain dust if you go by any vial power plants inside everywhere and out side
So that’s an honest review
Hi Dave thanks for sharing your experience - the polar opposite to ours! I believe the modification regarding the flaps was something they created after feedback, we found the process of changing the fittings really easy. I agree regarding the fan, it is noiser than I thought it would be - we fitted a rocker switch so we can turn it off at night, which has really helped.
How is the smell when the fan is not running. Both for pea and Pooh.
Hi there in the winter, no smell from the pee. You'd need to empty the solids whenever you poo, if you don't want to use the fan. In the summer, you need the fan on if you don't empty the pee every day. Hope that helps :)
Im wanting this toilet bit seems they have some defective toilet marked down and im having trouble finding a place to buy the tiny that actually works right with the sight screen. All i? Finding just say remove the sight screen and use it but the sight screen is the reason i want the tiny in the first place
Hi Matthew head here separett.com/welcome and find the supplier for your country :)
@@TheGapDecaders thank you
Where is the link to buy
We'd love to offer a link but unfortunately, you can't buy this on Amazon, Separett refer you to a distributor (depending on country/continent).
You have all the information m actions and links but missing link to buy t oil let n I worry what you have only 24 tys review
Hi, a question came up. Do you wipe the toilet after every use? I don't like the look after doing small business. Other than that we are very happy with our choice. Thanks4helping out😉
Not always! We do have a spray bottle of water which I use sometimes, but mostly I just close the lid!
@@TheGapDecaders thank you for your response. Have u tried vinegar instead water or a mix of? Heard that may be the clue.
I guess it depends on what you're trying to achieve. We tend to empty every day, so don't really have an issue with smell. Are you using the bio tab?
@@TheGapDecaders the biotap we plan the same as u. We use the one that came with the toilet and decide after if stick with or not.
Really appreciate this video and all the questions you answered. Izzy, nothing is TMI!
How do you clean it?
Most days with just hot soapy water. Occasionally with a tiny bit of bleach.
So, when you have to remove the solids bag, do you see the poo that is in there? Because I think that would be both gross and smelly. I would like a system where either the smell has been neutralized, or it's fully tied off automatically.
Hi there when you lift the concealer flaps you can see the contents of the bag, but usually any poo is covered by toilet paper. There is a small as the fan stops being effective when the flaps are lifted. Sounds like this isn't the toilet for you :)
@@TheGapDecaders thank you for the quick reply. I think you are right! Not for me! Trying to figure out what is that doesn't require emptying a cassette or black tank. Maybe port-a-potty with just bags and cat litter. Or the Laveo Dry Flush which encloses waste in bag automatically. If you have other options that come to mind, please share! Thank you!
the fan drys the solids out and that kills most of the smell
Where do you empty the urine?
Hi Donna when there is a public loo we use that, otherwise usually in undergrowth somewhere off the beaten path and away from any water courses.
It is better to use biochar with urine.
great thanks, I'll check it out 🙏😀
Is it legal and hygienic to dump a bag of poo in the garbage bin?
This really depends on the country you’re in, we've gone into a lot more depth in the written article on our website, see link below
thegapdecaders.com/separett-tiny-toilet-review/
But in short, if you consider babies nappies, elderly care with the use of commode liners and pads, you can legally bag and bin up to 7kg each week in private rubbish bins in the UK (and most of Europe).
Appreciate the comment 🙏😀
Giant panda…😂
Has anyone else notice that RUclips's audio doesn't sync with the video.
Hi and no, I've just watched the video on RUclips and it was perfectly in sync, is there a certain point at which this happens? Intriqued and appreciate you flagging this up. 🙏😀
@@TheGapDecaders - I didn't flag the video. I simply asked if anyone else noticed that the audio wasn't synced with the video. I just watched it again and on my computer it isn't syncing right from the beginning. This is happening with all the videos I look at. The audio is perfect, but not with the video. Can't understand why. If I play a dvd or a video from files, it seems to be ok, but not here in RUclips and that's been happening for a little while now.
Not sure what the issue might be, appreciate you taking the time to bring it to our attention 🙏@@georl1
it was not too much information. we want all the details.
Hi there what information are you looking for?
Screw that I’m not doing a thousand plus dollars for dumping in a bag with kitty litter, no way, no how!
😂😂 fair enough.
You do that routine every day?! If you've got to find somewhere every day to dump a bag of black waste and a few litres of wee every day then it's a waste of a grand.
Tooo much information indeed. :p You stepped in just at the right moment there! ;-)
lol, 😀
Do you see another best toilet made in Japan????
So why not just us a bucket & jug? Seems expensive & wasteful with all these bags?
Yes, they're expensive. Not always that easy whilst on the road and water is precious. 👍🏻
@@TheGapDecaders it uses water?
@@kellstat The Separett doesn’t use any water which is obviously advantageous whilst on the road.
Are you still happy with this?
Yes, we'd both still agree it's our best upgrade to date.
It’s also NOT a compose toilet there no such a thing in rv or vans
It takes least 5 weeks for 💩to even think to composting
You bag it and toss it
In USA I had the worse experience with the dealer
First they sent out toilet knowing it needs work and new parts which they do ship but you think for 1000 usa$ they come updated. So after that the paddles didn’t function correctly they wouldn’t completely move out of the way
So they sent me another replacement part the lid hinge
Well You have to remove the entire toilet out to replace the hinge are u kidding me all this over 5 weeks of bs and I’m full timing so frustrating
Now all that’s cleared the fan not as quiet as they lead u to think. Overseas they apparently replace the fan with one that runs slower it’s tolerable. Now this noise is also outside you can hear it venting like a furnace so mind that as well
Hi Dave did you watch the video? I do mention this is some detail in the first 5 minutes or so.
@@TheGapDecaders yes but you still use term right at start so I left so people who don’t watch all or any least see that
But yea I watched all very well done I’d say best video on the tiny yet
Great suggestions on alternative products
I really want usa people know service support terrible
That 1500 dollar separett I bought 10 years ago was a total ripoff. One part after another broke or malfunctioned despite its apparent simplicity. Never again...
Sorry to hear that, we're 18 months in with this toilet (full time) and it's been nothing but faultless. Maybe their R&D have listened & it's been improved upon.
But really appreciate the feedback. 👍
does it smell if you don't hook up to any ventilation
In the hot weather yes, the fan does an amazing job at keeping any smells at bay.