The End of the Chemical Toilet - Separett Tiny Review - VB35
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- After using the toilet for a few months now I thought it was about time I gave a full review from assembly & installation to everyday life using and cleaning.
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The Best 30 mins I’ve watched for ages, Well done for a very informative Vlog on a Bog
Well done John, 1 for keeping a straight face and 2 for explaining this so so well. Very informative 👍🏼
A speech from the throne. Well done.
Love that you posted this at breakfast time, lol
Any vanlifer knows it's not a magic van when it comes human needs. Well done for such a detailed video! I was also diagnosed with IBS and suffered for 25 years. I became lactose intolerant in my 40's once lactose was removed from my diet my IBS disappeared almost completely.
Oh John! 'I've had the squirts' nearly spat my tea out! 🤣 I empathise x
Also, I think the extra clip on bit for the liquid receptor may be intended for women. Given that we are fitted with a non directional sprinkler system 🤣
Congratulations on the way you explained the review and mainly the words you used. One of the best toilet review I've seen.
Nicely done. I have a similar product . I always put my poo bags in a dog poo bin. It will only have poo , sawdust or coconut coir and toilet paper.
John, why not wire toilet to the light so only powered when needed, also if the flap only opens when your sat on it how do you lift your bum to drop the toilet paper in??😂
Good point
I think these are a great idea but just can’t understand how they are quite so expensive. I’ve been looking at a Trelino compost toilet as we need something smaller for a VW T6 and again they are about 4 x the price of an equivalent sized Thetford. Just wish some of the UK companies would get on board the Compost design and make something which is more affordable.
Just ordered one to update my camper old Thetford C200 and away from chemicals, thanks, John.
Hi John, Thanks for being real about toilets. I built my own separating toilet for my van to cut costs. I purchased a pre made plastic urine diverter. I used a 5 gallon bucket for the poo. The front of it is cut out to match the shape of the urine diverter. The interface is pretty good, no leaks yet. I use grocery bags with shredded paper inside. In the bottom of the bucket I put an upside down metal cake tin to raise the bottom as the grocery bags are a bit short. I have another 5 gallon bucket with twist on lid to store the poo bags in case I can't dispose of the bag immediately. It's also a good place to put doggie poo bags and kitchen garbage as well. I don't have a fan either. I chose this set up because I have a bad back and didn't want to lift heavy chemical toilet cassettes.
How do you get the cake out of the tin ?
I use compostable bags from Popaloo in my small campervan. They have a neutralising powder which gels with liquid, pees and poos together, plus Mandy's magic home made deodorising spray. Perfect 👍
Thanks for update John ,looks good like the idea ,just can’t understabd the price, will see what Mandy has done ,
Hi John, there are a lot of dog disposable waste bins available so you could always dispose of the solids in them.
Very informative John, thanks for sharing. Rachel kept laughing at various points seemed to tickle her 😄 all the best, David 👍
I use the leasurewize toilet bucket, along with the bags and other methods you mentioned £19.99 🤣
Good video John. 👍
😂😂 you seem to cover this topic very well and this isn’t the first time either 👍👍 always love both of your content ( you and Mandy )
when i had my small camper i used cat litter in the bag that i had in my bucket type toilet as it was cheaper than sawdust also help to keep smells down
Nice one John. Having now seen your vlog which covers all I'd need to know to consider fitting one, if I was refitting a van, I'd fit one of these. There's much to say about cassette toilets, but the main issue for me is the limiting factor of capacity and the need to have a suitable place to empty and clean the cassette on a frequent basis. Where as with this that crucial factor is far less limiting, and ideal for extended trips away from conventional waste facilities. With regard to compostable bags, we've tried these in our compost heaps at home, and they take months to even begin to break down in some cases when used for vegetable peelings etc, but some we've found do leak fluid after about a week, so we use a plastic bin to hold the bag until its full and ready for disposal. But the bags do seem to hold together for much longer than one might suppose in dry conditions. 👋
Excellent review as always.
I think you can get charcoal filters to save cutting holes in the van
Say it like it is John! Love ya!
trendy looking thunderbox john very instructive post thanks pal .
Looks a great high quality product John and well thought out
We have a rule for our Thetford - pees only! Use every available opportunity for poos at garages, cafes, public conveniences etc. Rules are made for breaking, so sometimes there’s a spicy curry exception😅 So many people are so squeamish about natural bodily functions and products - you’ve just got to deal with it. Incontinent in-laws live with us and their pads go in the Black bin - No difference here for the Separett Tiny. Thanks again for a down to earth review.😊
I have the AirHead loo in my US-based van. It was expensive, but it is great. I have tried several different materials for the poo side. Pine shavings work fine! A large coffee filter over the poo hole pre-poo, prevents skid marks and absorbs any errant moisture.
Great video, very informative & entertaining. You mentioned that you get Irritable Bowel Syndrom, a lot of people that think they have this actually have Coeliac Disease. Try avoiding Gluton to see if that alleviates the problem. It is definitely worth Googling Coeliac Disease.
I was silly and ate what I know that causes it, in my case it’s deep pan pizzas.
@@GadgetJohn good job you had a deep pan toilet 😂
Brilliant review. How the hell you kept it going with clean speech, I will never know 😂
I can’t wait for Mandy’s poo palace video as although this was very funny and demystifying I still can think of a couple of issues for women with a separating toilet.
Yep the no one issue with van life the toilet. We always go to places with one nearby. Not ideal I know if you live full time but it is what it is.
“Gentleman sausage” cracked me up 😂😂😂
John, regarding the poo bag from your van, if any about you could also use dog poo bins……just a thought.
Great review as always. Apart from the clonking sound when lowering the lid seems like a good product. Maybe they could have made the poo sliders on a button or swivel knob, rather than relying on it opening when you sit down. With regards to the fan, maybe try researching a quieter one, or find a way to sound deaden the areas around it. Really like that it can be moved around, if you so chose to change your layout.
All very interesting and something we looked at closely for our camper. My conclusion was firstly there are a lot of little angles and hidden traps to clean, more so than with a cassette toilet. Secondly I don’t think sewage should end up in landfill rather than going to a sewage works specifically set up to deal with human waste. I know there are already millions of soiled nappies in land fill sites, a practice that has become an accepted form of management when it shouldn’t be as there is no alternative. For me separating toilets or composters are fine if there is easy and frequent access to a compost heap, very seldom the case. So for these reasons I will be sticking to a cassette loo until other waste management has improved.
Informative and funny, loved the vlog. We lived on a narrow boat for 8 years and the conversation with other boaters always came around to toilet talk, only people that live off grid eh😂. At the time we had ours we were allowed to pour the urine in the hedgerows because it is classed as a natural fertiliser and the poop we were allowed to put in a bin, bagged of course. After all what do people think farmers spread on fields😂🤣😂
Thinking about getting something similar for our new van so we can use the "dog bins" rather then play "hunt the elsan point". Couple of thoughts on the fan. Option one, wire it to the 12v power with a switch and a 555 timer PWM speed controller (more efficient than a say 5 watt resistor which would waste power by turning it into heat). Or option 2, add a small £15 2-3 watt solar panel on the roof so that the fan only runs when its getting solar. We used the latter method on our old van with a couple of 12v PC fans in the fridge vent, that way you don't generally get the fan noise at night (also works as a pretty good alarm clock......).
During the summer or when on the continent may persuade you to wire up the fan John. A really good review lad, but if the product has come down by £100 probably they are not selling (?). Thank you.
Can this be used a a portable
I’ve been thinking that container had your porridge oats in it. 😂😂😂
Thanks for the detailed review. Very interesting how the indication of a full urine tank is made? Is the sensor in the tank?
It’s a magnetic float inside that once it’s moved far enough away from some contacts in the base of the toilet it then turns the light on
So......people put billions of non degradable nappies into rubbish bins across the world containing all manner of small human waste, so why is it different if a full size human does similar but in a compostable bag, better to bin it responsibly I say, well done John for yet another educational video.
This has been the best vlog! My husband and I use separater toilets on our van as well as our liveaboard narrow boat. Been using them for over 4 years now and we've had no issues. We have a Compoost toilet in our boat and a Simploo in our van. So much easier than a cassette. Well done for covering these. Let's see the snowflakes coming out 😆
Why not control the fan with one of those time delay switches use no power when off, I believe you can adjust the time, as they work by air
Hari OM
I have been wondering what would be best option as an IBS sufferer - you have answered my questions! Will be keen to see Mandy's comparison poo pot.
Re the disposal - it seems to me that it is little different from depositing one's dog's poops... assuming one is a responsible owner who picks and pops... YAM xx
I use compostable bags for waste veg. They are thinner than ones for toilets. They take months to decompose , so you should have no problems.
Hi John that is a lot of work and money just to go to the lav, my set up is the same but I double bag mine and sawdust it mine cost me £9.99 it's a bucket and a toilet seat from go outdoors, never had a seconds problem with it, it seems to me that every one main goal is to try and get rid of the smells, which would be nice, but the fact is human waste does smell ,it would be nice to go to a nice clean toilet in a house every time you wanted a poo, but that would smell too, it's a fact of life shit smells, thanks for the vid
Perfect 👍
Dog 🐕 poo 💩 is put into bins hourly and nobody bats an eyelid, I think it's a great idea 💡. Thank you for information.
Oh and maybe cat litter for when you have IBS
Hi John, can you tell me how the urine tank sensor works?
There’s a floating magnet inside the pee container and when this magnet is out of range of the sensor the red light comes on.
I built my own seperating toilet about 2 years ago and will never go back to a chemical toilet, We have no smell, using sawdust as well and a 4 inch computer fan exhausting to the outside. I have left the fan on continuously for the whole 2 years now with no power or noise issues., As you said, about 2 days for pee bottle with 2 sharing and the poo bag about a week. Glad its all working out.
How big a cubicle do you have. I'm worries we've made our too small from back to front with nowhere for our feet to go🙈
@@suzanneoshea7741 mine is 900 wide, feet facing into the van with bi-fold doors for privacy. Doing this way you take up less space in van as you only need your cubicle to be roughly 600 deep
@@gedaustin9774 thank you. I think we may just about manage it. 😊
Could you not add a switch to the fan and only run it for a short while after use?
Baby nappy bags are put in bins . just saying .It is a composting loo after all .
Brilliant John you should have called the video pee pee poo poo woo woo you have a lovely way with words love the man sausage take care Avis 💩🚽💨xx
Thanks John, great video once again but not for me thank you. Toilet emptying has always been an issue with me and her in doors and this is not for us. Sure it will work for some, but not for us. Never been keen on sitting down peeing.!! 🤭
Can I suggest you try running the fan at a lower voltage. It may even function at 5 volts.
That’s my plan if the smells get obvious, I think the volume of air this 12v fan is moving is overkill, so lowering the voltage would be easy and not affect the fans ability to still move enough air to remove the smell
@@GadgetJohn Smell can still be eliminated at low fan speed if the exhaust path has minimum air resistance and avoids back draught. Also a home made pan cover for use when the fan is running slow. A small opening that is set so there is a very slight negative pressure in the pan at minimum fan speed. You would need a sensitive manometer to accurately set this, but trial and error would probably work.
Great review. How do you wipe and open the poop hole to put in the saw dust
Lift one cheek 👍🏻
Got us thinking, even with a cassette toilet, thinking of separating out second hand bog roll into its own container to increase time between taking said cassette to a suitable ‘glory hole’.
Have you seen the composting toilets with the stirring handle on the side?
Feel for the workers at the recycling centre who sort through the rubbish if people put it in a normal bin.
Putting toilet paper into poo compartment can't be easy with that flap covering it?
We are still using the blue in our cassette loo, but don't like the smell so are going to try 2 washing machine gell tablets, do they work at breaking waste down and stopping smells?
How do you get the TP in? As soon as you stand, the cover closes!
I believe compostable bags take years to break down, so never put them in your garden waste.
You have to lean forward but keep your weight on the seat, it’s easy now but took a few tries to get it right.
Isn't it "no holds barred"?!
Hi, I know they're very expensive but did you consider an incinerator toilet like the cindarella toilet? I've just seen them & they look the dog's, no bags, no mess, no smell, electric but expensive.
Insane amounts of power needed or you need gas onboard, so that’s a big NO from me 👍🏻
Question;- Did you find any issues with no 2 excriment clinging to the sliding flaps?
No issues as they are totally out of the way as you sit down, as demonstrated in this video.
How much! £700 odd quid. I thought the Thetford ones were expensive 😮
Best "Gadget John" video ever . full of double entre and inuendo (ooo er misses) which made me laugh out loud. great info though and to be honest, folk dont blink an eye bagging their dog poo up and binning it so whats the deal with normal poo if it is disposed of responsibly. If my long term aim to get a bigger van materialises, I'll deffo get a composting toilet for sure....it will certainly beat trying to use a porta potty in viv-i-van that would be too small for lilli (poo) tians lol. great video-only you could make the subject of poo fun. Bessy regs to you and Mandy- Kenny.
I'm not one to boast but I would be worried the end of my sausage would be blue😎😎Cheers K
The blue block didn’t last long 🤣
How do you drop the used paper into receptical as when you lift off seat the blades shut
I’ve quickly learned to lift one cheek enough to pop the paper in the loo 👍🏻
We are looking at the trobolo loos, seem well made, can you give dimensions of your toilet room please
Once I’ve finished my poo palace I’ll give out the internal dimensions.
Cassette toilets are the biggest problem with vanlife they're the reason we're getting banned everywhere so it's good to be spreading the word about dry toilets they're so much better 👍
and where do you think these compost bags will be dumped every time ? Like dog poo bags near our local campsite, in the hedge, on the verges and on to our gardens. Just a thought.
@@pageant1fd well at least with a dry toilet people have the option of putting it in a bin
@@ivecodavey I agree David , I have a motorhome myself but always stay on sites so I don’t have the same disposal issues. It’s merely something I’ve identified myself. Like anything if we respect others and the countryside everyone wins right ?
Another informative video John, but the only advantage I see is that you need to find a chemical waste point for a cassette and you don't with this, although I would dispose of in the dog poo bins that are provided.
On a personal note, from this video and others recently it looks as if you are loosing some serious weight!!! I hope nothing is wrong with your health.
It all seems so incredibly complicated, I just wear a dog outfit and can get away with having a poo in the woods or a park. Go back later to pick it up and bin it. Choose the right outfit for your build though, a Great Dane in my case. 🤔🤔🤔😃
That sounds much easier 🤣
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I think it might be worth checking with a local council the legality of dumping human waste in a bin and also with waste segregation which bin should it go in ? Just as a side note, when transporting a human waste sample for analysis it’s classed as “Infectious Substance”. I don’t have a problem with using this type of toilet, just the problem of correct disposal.
We use dog poo bin if they are not to full.
That’s everyone with a caravan, Campervan, Motorhome, boat all supposed to contact the council of every region they visit. I think not
@@GadgetJohn Sorry I didn’t make it clear, I didn’t mean that everyone should contact every region they go to. I meant it would be interesting to find out the general rule/law in use in the uk about dumping human waste in general rubbish bins. Not having a go at you or anyone else, just saying that that would be my only worry about using this type of toilet. Sorry once again if I have offended you.
@@davidgroat3625 same bin as you’d put babies or adult nappies in, black bins
So when you stand up or sit up to wipe your arse the flap closes so you cant throw the toilet paper down 🫥
If you stand up before wiping that’s an odd technique, but leaning forward to wipe still leaves the flaps open to drop the paper in. It’s all explained in the video.
always look forward to your videos john, but this one was a load of crap. 🤣😂🤣😂 😋
Gentleman sausage 🤣🤣
Hi john not sure about putting toilet bag in bin,not saying your wrong but if there was an accumulation of people using the same thing,poor bin men are going to be subjected to torn bags of poo I think it would become a problem mixed with standard rubbish Whicker can in some cases be recycled ,so as you say shit everywhere, I think like dog poo bins I think there has to be something different so they could recycle poo.
This was a weird video to watch on the train to work.
Seems an awful lot of compromise, to overcome an issue that could be largely mitigated by a cassette toilet and buying a second cassette. No swivel feature either. Not for me, but a great review
Good video John. I think people with concerns need to keep dogs in mind. Don't you bag that and pop it in a bin🤔
Yes, there are specific bins for dog poo. There are none for human poo, the contents of a composting toilet are quite considerable, and no local authority have the means to deal with it. I understand the attraction, chemical toilets are vile, but, generally are emptied into the sewage system where it can be dealt with appropriately. Imagine a bag of human poo bursting on a bin man? You need land to use these properly, it needs to dry out which then creates compost. Biodegradable bags need sunshine to break down.
@@sarahobes2758 agreed to be fully compostable you need land. This is why they're referred to as separating toilets these days. As for the dog poo most dog owners I know use their own domestic waste bin at home. I'm sure many don't even bag it. Most bins are barely handled by bin men these days, wheelie bins biffa etc them been impacted by a split bag very likely.
what about vomit?...sadly we all need to chunder sometimes...wd vomit be a solid or a wee deposit? lol
Chunder in the poo bucket 👍🏻
Also consider having a small bin using dog poo bags for your toilet tissue as it does take up the space so therefore makes the bags last longer .....
I’d rather not fill the bag with just poo, the paper helps dry it out to remove the smell
@@GadgetJohn ah ok 👍
I am amazed, that at a price of some £700 (WHAT??!!) this product is so poorly made.
There is no soft areas inside the casing to stop the two containers rattling.
There are electrical wires on the back, slapped on with some nasty tape? A dedicated directional channel would be nice!
There are Crocodile Clips on the end of the 12V power source wires?? Really?? Who on earth developed that idea?!
How about a 5525 or a 5521 or an XT60 connector for the power source connection?? Never heard of those?
Where on earth did the manufacturers think, that the customer is actually going to "clip" these crocodile clips to? In a vehicle build, where everything should be secure, neat, rattle-damage free and above all safe?
What a JOKE!
The fact, that the urine bottle can not even be connected to the 12V power source separately, is another oversight.
So a flashlight will be needed, a very bad sense of smell, or a good nose clip and a very sharp eye to estimate the amount of urine in the canister through a very tiny hole.
Yeah, sure.
And don't get me even started on the fact, that this vastly overpriced "toilet" has only 4 tiny and flimsy screw holes, to fix it to the back wall.
Why not a clip-on fixing, which would allow for the whole thing to be removed for cleaning and/or repairs?? Or some kind of bayonet fixing for easy removal.
The best one for me is: "Sit down and hear a bang!"
Really?
So, are you forcing me to wake up every other occupant in my vehicle, if I may just need the toilet in the middle of the night?
Perfect!
Never heard of impact-foam then, have you WooWoo?
What a great idea😡
At best, this is a very poor attempt to make us more environmentally friendly.
At worse, you will buy a rattly, poorly thought out and vastly overpriced toilet, with features that are more a hindrance then being helpful.
SHITTERS FULL AGAIN BABE !.......😂🤣
what a load of
This looks like a germaphobes nightmare!!! As annoying as finding Elsan points are I think I'd rather have the annoyance of that than having an open bag of poo in my van!! The smell is bad enough having nappies in sealed poo bags or dog poo in a sealed poo bag. I'd be guilty of bagging any poo as soon as it was produced to get rid of the smell. With that being said, if it works for others then fair shout.
Sorry to be a party pooper, i think its still going to smell
No need to think, I’m telling you it doesn’t
Oh boy that seems to be a big faff !!! 😮 Not that impressed 💦💩