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i love him!!! but agree with you he needs turret rework they should follow you i think they afraid to fuck with jayber cause he can become to OP i mean the literally nerfed him in the beta lol and he has been pretty shit ever since >_< but they gave Enzo freaking turrets that float an follow him but not the guy whos whole kit is turrets
That's how I fixed my Jayber, ngl. Ditching Jayber and building Kingsguard Lance was the better choice. Hopefully he gets a rework like Freyna so the catalysts and activator I used on him won't be wasted.
I remember thinking back when they buffed Jayber that "wow I don't think I've had a Jayber on my team ever". I saw a few Jaybers leveling for a couple days, and now I don't think I've had a Jayber on my team for anything since (it's been months).
So first of all u can ignore everything he said about jayber's 4th. U always want overhaul up. Use your 1 on spawn, activate 4, now u will have infinite overhaul for like 50+ secs. Just rinse repeat. And yes, he is trash. And no he does not need 12 cattys, in his current state at least.
Yeah, he got a click out of me but when he started chatting, I just started looking at comments. If you don’t know how to completely play characters then don’t call it a guide yeah you guiding people, leading them astray 😂
Well thanks. I started with him, completed the story and invested in him. But after trying other Descendants I never looked back though. I'm just waiting until he gets buffed and you do another video on him. Remnant 3 might be out at that point though. Thanks for all the work!
I have jayber as a passion project in the vault and love the idea of a utility character with support and offensive utility. I really hope he gets some love so I get drive or a reason to use him. We thank you for your guides and your catalysts. They have been amazing. I personally enjoy learning about the characters and how they function then just screencapping a build and doing it, your channel has been an excellent resource or said learning. Thanks alot for your hard work!
He has clunk on every button press, everything he does impedes his movement or animation locks him. Keeping overdrive up 100% to bypass having to spawn a turrent and then use the 3 "hoping auto aim dosent drag to an enemy wasting the shot" is the only way I can get decent results using Attacking Compulsion. -Id want his turrents to become 2x charge based and keep both types despite trancendent mod. Remove the cast/dismiss and make deployment on cast at retical location expending charge and removing oldest turrent. -Remove unboostest turrent entirely. -Make the 3 a large punch thru (Arca Plasmor type) projectile and increase base shots. When the projectile hits turrent it could shoot the electrical aoe balls it does on detonation. With a wide hard hitting shot it could be used for damage more and perhaps mag dumping into heavys can be viable and even preferred Overdrive could pause turrent duration and give Jayber himself a skill power/reload and movement speed buff.
Agree to disagree I guess. Reactivate puts your turrets in "enhanced" mode for 30 seconds (duration mods will change this) and allows you to unsummon and resummon as "enhanced" as many times as your cooldowns allow. I use Reactivate with full cooldown mods to move my turrets and keep them enhanced without ever using Multi-Purpose Gun. When the buff for Reactivate( Overhaul ) is about to end just blow up the turrets currently on the ground with Reactivate and rinse-repeat. So TLDR: Summon turret- Reactivate-Use enhanced turrets and use Reactivate when the buff is about to expire. Damage is another thing entirely though it is absolute dogshit and I won't take him into Colossus fights because of it.
actually jayber has alot of use to be honest. i use him completly different than you suggest. he is actually great in netflix-semi afk farms by using turret engineering. stationary farms pressing 1 button here and there. he is bad in dungeons and colossi compared to the rest, but he can do stuff, no one else is able to do. e.g. farm anticipated ambush point, without move 1 meter away from mission activator. if you dont focus on efficiency and just want a relaxed time, farmin stuff "passive" he shines he can easy do solo farm of blue brains too and alot more. but he is different than any other and has special usecases
There are ways to justify having already built him out if you HAVE already built him out, sure, but there are 0 reasons to advocate using him for someone who just got him, with the singular exception of the blue brain farm without needing a partner but that doesn't require an activator or any catalysts or any investment on him, which is why it's the only reason to use him.
He is just genuinely bad bunny. Whoever reworked Kyle needs to hit him with the buff bat. His 4 has a use. Genuinely just use it to set up the turrets initially, it gives them a longer timer before shooting them. That is it though.
lol Kyle is STILL TRASH. He’s better at least now and way better than Jayber but he’s another character where someone is ALWAYS BETTER THAN HIM for every situation. Ajax laughs at Kyle claiming to be a “tank.” Enzo laughs at Kyle claiming to be a dps version of a tank. Bunny, Freyna, Viessa, Valby, even Ajax laugh at him again when it comes to farming. Whatever idiot “reworked” him deserves to be fired instead. He didn’t deserve nerfs to CDR and his 3rd’s invincibility mode. He only deserves buffs and nothing more… But instead they saved that to TRIPLR BUFF Freyna into a whole new dimension so everyone will choose to buy her. The devs do NOT care about “balance” in the game
Thank you for your work and guides. They feel like what us normal people can play rather than crit-fishing, perfect play, Bunny-default, so on so forth schlock. All the times you have mentioned in your videos how tedious a mechanic is in given game modes I have practically shouted "THANK YOU" at the screen. Your builds always match my expectations when I try them myself because of that clarity you provide vs other creators' hype then you get in and realize it's a 1 out of 5 crit fish or lucky AI roll that the boss does one thing instead of another (specifically colossi) I heard that the devs said Ultimates will be released in the order they joined the Albion forces lore-wise so Jayber is supposed to be up next. Those changes to the wave defense missions that will give the weapon xp are coming too. My prediction is that he will be retuned to smash in those.
You do want to used the 4th ability. It extended the Turret purple timer even longer. Just set 1 Turret and active his 4th, so you can get the buff. I personally used his 1st Turret as a enemies distraction and used his healing Turret...well to heal my team. It is not the best healing but...any healing help keep everyone alive. And I used used his 4th when the Turrets are about to get destroyed. Doesn't do any damage but it does kill the weaker enemies and you get the Turret buff.
As a Jayber main since the first beta for Xbox , I said turrets bet I’m in. So glad you touching on his issues and stuff, I still use him for dungeons and bosses , the only boss having issues with is stalker. I’m like 26 🍩 in with him and I’ll die on that hill with him 😂. And yes Ik there better descendants like everyone keeps telling me, but eh I like what I like.
I maxed my jayber and he still felt really, really bad. I think his biggest problem is having to sequence his abilities the way you do in order for it to feel even remotely comfortable to use his turrets. The repair gun is freaking useless. He needs some desperate help. People love turret characters in games - Engineer in Tf2, Heimer in League, McGunty in Deadlock, etc. I think he'd be very popular if he was even remotely comparable to the rest of the cast.
Ngl Kings guard got buffed, but it's dog water compared to Jayber. I think yall just follow the trend at this point lol. But his turrets following him would be awesome. I don't think the devs are that advanced yet tho
Aaaawww man, Jayber really needs a Freyna like rework where he becomes a farming and bossing god. I hope that they level this brother up after this video PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE @NEXON
Overhaul is pretty good tho. Get it to >100% uptime and just hit it whenever it's runs out, you won't ever need to bother with his stupid multigun not piercing adds or his bullets being wasted because 0.001% duration was left on the turret zone or waiting for his TE red mod coming off cooldown every time you remake a turret. Damage wise yeah, they could double it's modifier and it's number of shots and it's shot speed and it would still be below par for a base 80 second cooldown ability.
Thanks for this. I am so tired of people saying "you just don't know how to play him!". I spent 15 Catalysts on this guy and maxed out Peace Maker just for him. He is bad but there is always someone who claims otherwise.
i love character with many drones instead of many turrets. that would be great if they rework his skills to drone squadron. since the gameplay mostly force you to move more than just stand there menacingly.
Been waiting on this video. It’s upsetting because he does have a cool kit and could be great. Once he gets an ULT, hopefully one of his transcendent mods makes his turrets mobile. Maybe follows the circumference of its turret zone ring giving a greater aoe. I do hope they fix him because he is one of my favorites.
Kyle and Esiemo got fixed out of no where, meaning they are watching characters. Only the most recent changes made big differences, so sadly Valby and Blair suck still but Blair is not clunky anymore. I think Blair’s 4th should hit even harder at base and True deadly cuisine should be closer to 12k or even 15k scaling. Valby should of honestly gotten a mod that makes her 4th a usable skill. and her range buff did nothing. Her scaling is horrible on some skills. Ajax got changed very weirdly but I assume it’s good. I hope to see mega buffs and reworks like Freyna, Kyle and Esiemo though. Some characters just don’t work well and some abilities don’t compliment the playstyle.
Best changes I can think of is to make him 100% better: 1) Make the turrets more of a drone that hovers around Jayber. Let them adopt the full skill damage modifier. 2) The tech gun lets you shoot friendlies to attach the turrets to a player. If hit an enemy, it activates the Turret Zone skills (Also change the Healing Turrets taunt to apply a HoT.) Shooting the ground within 5 feet places the turrets on the ground and act as they do now. 3) Overhaul lets both turrets discharge damage fields every 0.5 seconds around the current player with the turrets. No blow up.
I have the fix for jayber, just make his 4th ability bturn his turrets into drones, that will follow the target you shoots with his multipurpose gun, ans the gun will increase the damage and heal tutretus do btw. May it wont fix him but ill be fun seeing some drones flying
I'll be covering everyone eventually, no matter how dumb they may be which is why I even did jayber. It's just a matter of time, and the order in which I do them
Love him, but cant justify using him basically. Someone else will always do his job better, and thats why i keep yujin online 90% of the time. He CAN lock down the def missions now, but a freyna would cover the whole map with one Q and is far more efficient. His turrets also struggle when getting run over by a LOT of mods which kinda defeats their purpose too (even with attack compulsion/not taunting). He takes more management than other farming chars (afk freyna), and other characters that need more input (bunny) are still more efficient and can cover more area. Im gonna hold out that theyre gonna give him a rework like freyna bc she was once in the gutter too but now is S tier. We shall see
Idk man I’ve played him since Day 1 and beat everything in the game with him solo. And some gluttony a bunch etc. he def needs help but he’s far from useless or not worth playing. He’s actually super strong in invasions or reactor bosses etc bc he can heal and get extra dmg at same time while being tanky and have aoe.
I think you're the first person to ever try and use REACTOR BOSSES as a selling point for a character, and I gotta say that's scraping the bottom of the barrel man.
@@VashCowaii lol good point but I did preface that with also beating everything in the game with him… 400% dungeon solo, invasions solo, every boss etc. What changes would u like to see
Minor usability notes for his third ability: 1. You can roll-cancel the animations, especially holstering it feels a lot smoother this way. 2. De-activating the ability _immediately_ after you shoot with it makes that shot not count towards increasing the cooldown. ..That's all I got. He still kinda sucks :|
Was aware of roll cancel just didn't care to mention bc every unique weapon can do it, didn't know about the first shot though but shoulda figured. Got a chuckle from the end of your comment though
Thanks for this video! Hopefully they do a major rework to make him more viable. Maybe mobile turrets that follow him around and possibly some upgrades to his healing turrets to heal shields as well.
I did some testing yesterday and realized there's an unmentioned +25% healing output when you place the healing turret during overhaul. I was running medical comp, spec'd into max hp and hp heal and was able to face tank the bosses up to swamp walker and keep my entire party alive even through their immunity phases. I actually think in certain stationary scenarios he's a much better healer than yujin since it's consistent healing without much mana usage with the added benefit of not having to worry about Gley's who are running walk a tightrope since they can just avoid the circle. Very niche I know, but kinda cool imo.
Ok.. Hear me out. Skill1: Have a hovering turret that shoots (1k Multiplier) a single target near you with increased attack speed (5x Multiplier of current equipped weapon) Skill2: Have a hovering turret that Heals (500x Multiplier) when a player is near you and provides a regen effect for 10 seconds (100x Multiplier) Skill3: Shoots out small mines that explode around target if 2 [Skill 1] are present. Will provide a Shield (5x Multiplier of Plyers current MAX Shield) on [Skill 2] use Skill4: OVERCHARGE Turrets to gain massive AoE around you (1.5k Multiplier) and summon 5 additional Hovering Turrets (Skill 1) for [x Duration] I think this would GREATLY improve him and become somewhat relevent. Thoughts?
I'm leveling this guy now and I gotta say... hes trash lol. I typically go for the less popular character in every game I play but Jayber has no upside. I can go into anything with my Bunny that only has 3 catalysts invested and put in an adequate amount of work but I'm currently at 5 on Jayber and I feel just as useless as I did with 0. I really should've just invested those 5 cats into King's Guard.
Since when does Jayber's healing turrets not proc Passionate Sponsor? Is that recent? I haven't been playing Jayber in a few, (focused on Freyna), but I definitely used it in the past. Arguably, he was one of the better gunners out there as he gets his 20% firearm buff (agreed the skill buff is useless) for two turrets down, and provided you can chase (or convince) your teammates to stand in healing (PS only works if you heal another player), you're getting another 75% from passionate sponsor. Just build him like a gunner/tank - give him lots of HP to keep turrets alive, maintain 20% ATK buff, and greed through damage. Built right you can stand in a LOT of things and continue shooting while other champs would be running. Trying to build him around turret dps is silly, his turret DPS is useless for anything other than adds. Passionate Sponsor & Turret Engineering allows you to just focus on gunplay & profit. Seen double medical turrets not for a "support fetish" but to ease chasing your teammates around to keep passionate sponsor online, and to greed through even more damage. I haven't use it (prefer TE), but I imagine copius use of 4 so you don't have to shoot turrets/waste time with your 3 that would be on firearm DPS.
Poor guy , sometimes i feel like playing turret-afk/ style and i just grab a gravity lepic i toss some weapon dmg mods in him grab my max lance weapon ,i load a spot to farm i trigger weapon dmg mods and put a turret down with 100% crit rate and chill and start spamming trac greanade, and watch the annoyed bunnys leave
Jayber was first character i got in hard mode because i thought hed be good then i just leveled him in special operation kingston which is probably the only place he actually does well for a little while decided to take a crack at him yesterday put 2 cats on i do think turret engineering is nice for general use but i regreted putting 2 cats on so i dont how you still alive after putting 12 i do feel his agro draw and healing is genuinely his best thing i feel like he tries to do everything aside from boss damage and because of that hes trash at basically everything i did have some fun on him in a 400% where we didnt have a bunyn or freyna which was fun but yea if there was one of those 2 id probably be doing nothing of use he kinda just doesnt have a place with how clunky he is id say let his turrets follow him but then thats just similar to enzo maybe just let them have a mind of their own that could be funny also im not sure if i was just not properly doing it but range mods seemed to only affect the zone and not the gun range and his descriptions seem to have errors
I was interested as he's the Turret Guy, and I was like, great, another gun to help, and then I played him. All they need to do to make him good is scale the turrets to the gun you're holding.
@VashCowaii Yeah, it at least would make people play him more and make more diverse parties than the usual Bunny, Bunny, Freyna, etc we currently have.
For blue brain farming, resetting Fortress Courtyard leg 1 can give you one elite kill per 24 seconds if you get into a good rhythm. Is there a Jayber farm that's faster than that?
I like turret engineering just for infinite turret and turret zone, obviously has very niche uses like small outposts or that void shard farm but great if you're feeling lazy
I know he trash at the moment but moving turrets or faster cast and more turrets would be such a huge upgrade. It is such an interesting character idea with 0 follow through. They should scrap his kit and start fresh. Overhault the red mods and all. He needs cool gadgets that hit hard or buff extremely hard
I also noticed that you can only extend his turret duration IF the turret zone is active so basicly you need 2 bullets to enhance the duration of the turret which is pretty annoying but still i love him even tho hes my weak baby
High cooldown and abusing overhaul seems like a good alternative But his damage and healing will still be lacking Taunting also doesn't work on many enemies and many attacks cant target turrets instead of you
i knowingly leveled up my Jayber with 11 catalysts for the sole purpose of being a farmer. remotely pop the yellow bar boss or clear one wave remotely, abort mission, and restart.
so excited you have a game you enjoy! speaking for a large portion of your fanbase here though, that game is actual dogshit, Nexon is evil, and we're desperately waiting for you to have good taste in games again
viessa is somewhat broken, they screwed up her range extension mods in conjunction with the Cold Snap Watch Mod. The affected range is not extended, the abilities are just pushed further away. Basically gimping a CC/AOE character in its most important roll with that mod.
Самое смешное, что когда колоса валят на колено и ты используешь его 4 навык, обе блядь турели стреляют выше колоса и не могут в него попасть. Ну и бонусом к этому все боссы постоянно отходят от турелей и по началу это раздражало, но потом, когда начинаешь контролировать их положение на поле боя, становится даже забавно.
I wouldn't use the first build. But also surprised you didn't give a med turret build just for people who want to go that route. You can build for a 110% firearm dmg and 1,700 hp ever tic per turret. but most heal per tic is just about 2k if you build into it.
Gosh I really and I mean REALLY wanted to make this guy work 😭 I wanted to main him ever since I started playing the game but then I realized he was outclassed in everything like you said. He’s not even niche just pointless especially when you compare him to every other descendant in the game
Jayber and blair competing for the worst descendant title. Ik blairs slightly better at mobbing now but hes still outclassed by most the descendants. In mobbing and bosses. Like mobbing why even bother with blair when bunny and freyna exist then bossing why bother when lepic, hailey and freyna exist. I hope jayber and blair are next in the ultimate descendant lineup and they get heavy improvements
they need to completely rework him because as he is now he will either be an afk character or hes gonna suck theres no in between they cant keep his kit the way it is
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Whatever they cook up for him later better be wicked good because I didn't even get this frustrated with pre-bombing-fix kyle and he was bad.
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Betting they'll give him that flame throwing turret he an Blair make and he'd still suck
i love him!!! but agree with you he needs turret rework they should follow you i think they afraid to fuck with jayber cause he can become to OP i mean the literally nerfed him in the beta lol and he has been pretty shit ever since >_< but they gave Enzo freaking turrets that float an follow him but not the guy whos whole kit is turrets
He's very clunky and unfun to play.
While every other descendant is competing against Bunny and Freyna, my guy Jayber out here is competing against a gun, and the gun is winning.
It's better shooting explosive barrels I think than using jayber
That's how I fixed my Jayber, ngl. Ditching Jayber and building Kingsguard Lance was the better choice. Hopefully he gets a rework like Freyna so the catalysts and activator I used on him won't be wasted.
The Albion Weapon Adjustment Station versus Jayber.
@@bitterblossom19 Supply Firearm Enzo with KGL is so much better a turret platform than Jayber. It's no competition.
The sad/tired cat is so accurate for Jayber
it's how I felt after using that many catalysts on him too
Lets all pour one out for the Jayber mains out there
*Jayber main
The turrets should follow you like angry pets..
I remember thinking back when they buffed Jayber that "wow I don't think I've had a Jayber on my team ever". I saw a few Jaybers leveling for a couple days, and now I don't think I've had a Jayber on my team for anything since (it's been months).
I got 1 Jayber in my molten fortress a few days ago and i was shocked about seeing the guy there
500 hours and I've yet to encounter a Jayber. Which is crazy
I remember him with double healing drones early on on Pyro when it was hard for me and we just infinity sayed alive in the circle (on normal)
Playing since launch I've seen maybe 3 Jaybers
@@gamermike24 I was playing him today was actually enjoying him but I could tell the certain places that he needs buffs
So first of all u can ignore everything he said about jayber's 4th. U always want overhaul up. Use your 1 on spawn, activate 4, now u will have infinite overhaul for like 50+ secs. Just rinse repeat. And yes, he is trash. And no he does not need 12 cattys, in his current state at least.
Yeah, he got a click out of me but when he started chatting, I just started looking at comments. If you don’t know how to completely play characters then don’t call it a guide yeah you guiding people, leading them astray 😂
Well thanks. I started with him, completed the story and invested in him. But after trying other Descendants I never looked back though. I'm just waiting until he gets buffed and you do another video on him. Remnant 3 might be out at that point though. Thanks for all the work!
I have jayber as a passion project in the vault and love the idea of a utility character with support and offensive utility. I really hope he gets some love so I get drive or a reason to use him. We thank you for your guides and your catalysts. They have been amazing. I personally enjoy learning about the characters and how they function then just screencapping a build and doing it, your channel has been an excellent resource or said learning. Thanks alot for your hard work!
He has clunk on every button press, everything he does impedes his movement or animation locks him.
Keeping overdrive up 100% to bypass having to spawn a turrent and then use the 3 "hoping auto aim dosent drag to an enemy wasting the shot" is the only way I can get decent results using Attacking Compulsion.
-Id want his turrents to become 2x charge based and keep both types despite trancendent mod. Remove the cast/dismiss and make deployment on cast at retical location expending charge and removing oldest turrent.
-Remove unboostest turrent entirely.
-Make the 3 a large punch thru (Arca Plasmor type) projectile and increase base shots. When the projectile hits turrent it could shoot the electrical aoe balls it does on detonation.
With a wide hard hitting shot it could be used for damage more and perhaps mag dumping into heavys can be viable and even preferred
Overdrive could pause turrent duration and give Jayber himself a skill power/reload and movement speed buff.
The healing from the turret DOES proc passionate sponsor. You need at least one teammate to receive the heal to receive the stacks.
Jayber better be the next ultimate because dude needs all the fucking help he can get. Buffs, reworks, new red mods anything please
prayge
Ultimate Sharen
Yeah my friend group is joking that they're gonna do every female before any males. Like, Ult Luna will come out before Ult Kyle. @@masavi5330
pls stfu. no new females needed@@masavi5330
As much as i’d love that, i think ult sharen is in the works next.
The thumbnail is still great as ever
Agree to disagree I guess. Reactivate puts your turrets in "enhanced" mode for 30 seconds (duration mods will change this) and allows you to unsummon and resummon as "enhanced" as many times as your cooldowns allow. I use Reactivate with full cooldown mods to move my turrets and keep them enhanced without ever using Multi-Purpose Gun. When the buff for Reactivate( Overhaul ) is about to end just blow up the turrets currently on the ground with Reactivate and rinse-repeat. So TLDR: Summon turret- Reactivate-Use enhanced turrets and use Reactivate when the buff is about to expire. Damage is another thing entirely though it is absolute dogshit and I won't take him into Colossus fights because of it.
actually jayber has alot of use to be honest. i use him completly different than you suggest.
he is actually great in netflix-semi afk farms by using turret engineering. stationary farms pressing 1 button here and there.
he is bad in dungeons and colossi compared to the rest, but he can do stuff, no one else is able to do.
e.g. farm anticipated ambush point, without move 1 meter away from mission activator.
if you dont focus on efficiency and just want a relaxed time, farmin stuff "passive" he shines
he can easy do solo farm of blue brains too and alot more. but he is different than any other and has special usecases
There are ways to justify having already built him out if you HAVE already built him out, sure, but there are 0 reasons to advocate using him for someone who just got him, with the singular exception of the blue brain farm without needing a partner but that doesn't require an activator or any catalysts or any investment on him, which is why it's the only reason to use him.
As a main Jayber since beta, thank you for pointing it out :(
Why
He is just genuinely bad bunny. Whoever reworked Kyle needs to hit him with the buff bat.
His 4 has a use. Genuinely just use it to set up the turrets initially, it gives them a longer timer before shooting them. That is it though.
lol Kyle is STILL TRASH. He’s better at least now and way better than Jayber but he’s another character where someone is ALWAYS BETTER THAN HIM for every situation. Ajax laughs at Kyle claiming to be a “tank.” Enzo laughs at Kyle claiming to be a dps version of a tank. Bunny, Freyna, Viessa, Valby, even Ajax laugh at him again when it comes to farming.
Whatever idiot “reworked” him deserves to be fired instead. He didn’t deserve nerfs to CDR and his 3rd’s invincibility mode. He only deserves buffs and nothing more…
But instead they saved that to TRIPLR BUFF Freyna into a whole new dimension so everyone will choose to buy her.
The devs do NOT care about “balance” in the game
Thank you for your work and guides. They feel like what us normal people can play rather than crit-fishing, perfect play, Bunny-default, so on so forth schlock. All the times you have mentioned in your videos how tedious a mechanic is in given game modes I have practically shouted "THANK YOU" at the screen. Your builds always match my expectations when I try them myself because of that clarity you provide vs other creators' hype then you get in and realize it's a 1 out of 5 crit fish or lucky AI roll that the boss does one thing instead of another (specifically colossi)
I heard that the devs said Ultimates will be released in the order they joined the Albion forces lore-wise so Jayber is supposed to be up next. Those changes to the wave defense missions that will give the weapon xp are coming too. My prediction is that he will be retuned to smash in those.
You do want to used the 4th ability. It extended the Turret purple timer even longer.
Just set 1 Turret and active his 4th, so you can get the buff.
I personally used his 1st Turret as a enemies distraction and used his healing Turret...well to heal my team.
It is not the best healing but...any healing help keep everyone alive.
And I used used his 4th when the Turrets are about to get destroyed. Doesn't do any damage but it does kill the weaker enemies and you get the Turret buff.
Nah do not even try to make it sound like I've mislead people: jayber is not worth building, we have not misunderstood how to use him, Reaper lmfao.
Still love coming for these videos even though I don't play anymore.
Whew, I hope Jayber gets something meaningful at some point. Also, still love the Cat thumbnails. :D
As someone who secondaries Axton/Roland/Soldier in the borderlands series: That thumbnail perfectly captures the emotion of a Jaber fan 😭
At least Axton has a thematically cool turret. Jaybers turret is a glorified circle
As a Jayber main since the first beta for Xbox , I said turrets bet I’m in. So glad you touching on his issues and stuff, I still use him for dungeons and bosses , the only boss having issues with is stalker. I’m like 26 🍩 in with him and I’ll die on that hill with him 😂. And yes Ik there better descendants like everyone keeps telling me, but eh I like what I like.
I maxed my jayber and he still felt really, really bad. I think his biggest problem is having to sequence his abilities the way you do in order for it to feel even remotely comfortable to use his turrets. The repair gun is freaking useless. He needs some desperate help. People love turret characters in games - Engineer in Tf2, Heimer in League, McGunty in Deadlock, etc. I think he'd be very popular if he was even remotely comparable to the rest of the cast.
dozens of descendants rejoice
'I want my 12 catalysts back'..... Love it!
So he has ben replaced by a gun because I see more people play king guard more than him 😅😅
would be interesting if they make his turrets follow him. or he can assign a turret to follow his teammates.
@@AZ-ly5rwbro, I love this idea👏👏
Ngl Kings guard got buffed, but it's dog water compared to Jayber. I think yall just follow the trend at this point lol. But his turrets following him would be awesome. I don't think the devs are that advanced yet tho
@@AZ-ly5rwyeah but Enzo already does this, all be it his is for more ammo then it is damage.
Dont ever give up on Jayber. Stand by he will be great........sooonn
Aaaawww man, Jayber really needs a Freyna like rework where he becomes a farming and bossing god. I hope that they level this brother up after this video PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE @NEXON
Fully catalyzed healer Jayber fetishist here. I have no excuse for it i just like it.
LMFAO, can respect the truthfulness
Overhaul is pretty good tho. Get it to >100% uptime and just hit it whenever it's runs out, you won't ever need to bother with his stupid multigun not piercing adds or his bullets being wasted because 0.001% duration was left on the turret zone or waiting for his TE red mod coming off cooldown every time you remake a turret.
Damage wise yeah, they could double it's modifier and it's number of shots and it's shot speed and it would still be below par for a base 80 second cooldown ability.
Thanks for this. I am so tired of people saying "you just don't know how to play him!". I spent 15 Catalysts on this guy and maxed out Peace Maker just for him. He is bad but there is always someone who claims otherwise.
Some of those people have even left comments, it's hilarious
Yeah I hate it so much when people make it sound like it's some kind of skill issue.
i love character with many drones instead of many turrets. that would be great if they rework his skills to drone squadron. since the gameplay mostly force you to move more than just stand there menacingly.
Menacingly
So, after that "useable" descendant, we probably need to see a "fix your Ajax" video ❤
Been waiting on this video. It’s upsetting because he does have a cool kit and could be great. Once he gets an ULT, hopefully one of his transcendent mods makes his turrets mobile. Maybe follows the circumference of its turret zone ring giving a greater aoe. I do hope they fix him because he is one of my favorites.
it ok. I tried as well. I put 14 Catas on Jayber and cry every single time i look at my Descendant list
You forgot to put the "If you screen shot this and dip, then you're a _________ ." Even if it's going to be that 1 guy :D
Kyle and Esiemo got fixed out of no where, meaning they are watching characters.
Only the most recent changes made big differences, so sadly Valby and Blair suck still but Blair is not clunky anymore.
I think Blair’s 4th should hit even harder at base and True deadly cuisine should be closer to 12k or even 15k scaling.
Valby should of honestly gotten a mod that makes her 4th a usable skill. and her range buff did nothing. Her scaling is horrible on some skills.
Ajax got changed very weirdly but I assume it’s good.
I hope to see mega buffs and reworks like Freyna, Kyle and Esiemo though. Some characters just don’t work well and some abilities don’t compliment the playstyle.
Ajax changes have all been good. I was jump Ajax and had 3 Bunny's leave the mission.
Best changes I can think of is to make him 100% better:
1) Make the turrets more of a drone that hovers around Jayber. Let them adopt the full skill damage modifier.
2) The tech gun lets you shoot friendlies to attach the turrets to a player. If hit an enemy, it activates the Turret Zone skills (Also change the Healing Turrets taunt to apply a HoT.) Shooting the ground within 5 feet places the turrets on the ground and act as they do now.
3) Overhaul lets both turrets discharge damage fields every 0.5 seconds around the current player with the turrets. No blow up.
12 cats on jayber is wild!
REGRET
I have the fix for jayber, just make his 4th ability bturn his turrets into drones, that will follow the target you shoots with his multipurpose gun, ans the gun will increase the damage and heal tutretus do btw. May it wont fix him but ill be fun seeing some drones flying
The sole Sharen respecter here, is there a chance you'll be doing a video in making an optimized build for the one function descendant
I'll be covering everyone eventually, no matter how dumb they may be which is why I even did jayber. It's just a matter of time, and the order in which I do them
Gonna wait for ult jayber
Wise
Wait for ult Jayber I guess, maybe then he will get a rework like Freyna
my Jayber solely exist to farm blue brains solo 😭
LMAO that is the only use for him, realistically right now
Love him, but cant justify using him basically. Someone else will always do his job better, and thats why i keep yujin online 90% of the time. He CAN lock down the def missions now, but a freyna would cover the whole map with one Q and is far more efficient. His turrets also struggle when getting run over by a LOT of mods which kinda defeats their purpose too (even with attack compulsion/not taunting). He takes more management than other farming chars (afk freyna), and other characters that need more input (bunny) are still more efficient and can cover more area. Im gonna hold out that theyre gonna give him a rework like freyna bc she was once in the gutter too but now is S tier. We shall see
I like
Jayber and invested but i agree with everything u say...by the time u set up turrets all enemies are killed and players are moved on lol
Idk man I’ve played him since Day 1 and beat everything in the game with him solo. And some gluttony a bunch etc. he def needs help but he’s far from useless or not worth playing. He’s actually super strong in invasions or reactor bosses etc bc he can heal and get extra dmg at same time while being tanky and have aoe.
I think you're the first person to ever try and use REACTOR BOSSES as a selling point for a character, and I gotta say that's scraping the bottom of the barrel man.
@@VashCowaii lol good point but I did preface that with also beating everything in the game with him… 400% dungeon solo, invasions solo, every boss etc.
What changes would u like to see
Minor usability notes for his third ability:
1. You can roll-cancel the animations, especially holstering it feels a lot smoother this way.
2. De-activating the ability _immediately_ after you shoot with it makes that shot not count towards increasing the cooldown.
..That's all I got.
He still kinda sucks :|
Was aware of roll cancel just didn't care to mention bc every unique weapon can do it, didn't know about the first shot though but shoulda figured.
Got a chuckle from the end of your comment though
"You can call me Jobber."
Thanks for this video! Hopefully they do a major rework to make him more viable. Maybe mobile turrets that follow him around and possibly some upgrades to his healing turrets to heal shields as well.
I did some testing yesterday and realized there's an unmentioned +25% healing output when you place the healing turret during overhaul. I was running medical comp, spec'd into max hp and hp heal and was able to face tank the bosses up to swamp walker and keep my entire party alive even through their immunity phases. I actually think in certain stationary scenarios he's a much better healer than yujin since it's consistent healing without much mana usage with the added benefit of not having to worry about Gley's who are running walk a tightrope since they can just avoid the circle. Very niche I know, but kinda cool imo.
Ok.. Hear me out.
Skill1: Have a hovering turret that shoots (1k Multiplier) a single target near you with increased attack speed (5x Multiplier of current equipped weapon)
Skill2: Have a hovering turret that Heals (500x Multiplier) when a player is near you and provides a regen effect for 10 seconds (100x Multiplier)
Skill3: Shoots out small mines that explode around target if 2 [Skill 1] are present. Will provide a Shield (5x Multiplier of Plyers current MAX Shield) on [Skill 2] use
Skill4: OVERCHARGE Turrets to gain massive AoE around you (1.5k Multiplier) and summon 5 additional Hovering Turrets (Skill 1) for [x Duration]
I think this would GREATLY improve him and become somewhat relevent. Thoughts?
Unrelated to the video topic but are either of Hailey's transcendent mods any good?
I'm leveling this guy now and I gotta say... hes trash lol.
I typically go for the less popular character in every game I play but Jayber has no upside. I can go into anything with my Bunny that only has 3 catalysts invested and put in an adequate amount of work but I'm currently at 5 on Jayber and I feel just as useless as I did with 0.
I really should've just invested those 5 cats into King's Guard.
Since when does Jayber's healing turrets not proc Passionate Sponsor? Is that recent?
I haven't been playing Jayber in a few, (focused on Freyna), but I definitely used it in the past. Arguably, he was one of the better gunners out there as he gets his 20% firearm buff (agreed the skill buff is useless) for two turrets down, and provided you can chase (or convince) your teammates to stand in healing (PS only works if you heal another player), you're getting another 75% from passionate sponsor.
Just build him like a gunner/tank - give him lots of HP to keep turrets alive, maintain 20% ATK buff, and greed through damage. Built right you can stand in a LOT of things and continue shooting while other champs would be running. Trying to build him around turret dps is silly, his turret DPS is useless for anything other than adds.
Passionate Sponsor & Turret Engineering allows you to just focus on gunplay & profit. Seen double medical turrets not for a "support fetish" but to ease chasing your teammates around to keep passionate sponsor online, and to greed through even more damage. I haven't use it (prefer TE), but I imagine copius use of 4 so you don't have to shoot turrets/waste time with your 3 that would be on firearm DPS.
Do Luna next
Poor guy , sometimes i feel like playing turret-afk/ style and i just grab a gravity lepic i toss some weapon dmg mods in him grab my max lance weapon ,i load a spot to farm i trigger weapon dmg mods and put a turret down with 100% crit rate and chill and start spamming trac greanade, and watch the annoyed bunnys leave
Jayber was first character i got in hard mode because i thought hed be good then i just leveled him in special operation kingston which is probably the only place he actually does well for a little while decided to take a crack at him yesterday put 2 cats on i do think turret engineering is nice for general use but i regreted putting 2 cats on so i dont how you still alive after putting 12
i do feel his agro draw and healing is genuinely his best thing i feel like he tries to do everything aside from boss damage and because of that hes trash at basically everything i did have some fun on him in a 400% where we didnt have a bunyn or freyna which was fun but yea if there was one of those 2 id probably be doing nothing of use
he kinda just doesnt have a place with how clunky he is id say let his turrets follow him but then thats just similar to enzo maybe just let them have a mind of their own that could be funny
also im not sure if i was just not properly doing it but range mods seemed to only affect the zone and not the gun range and his descriptions seem to have errors
Ive been waiting for a jayber video thanks! its kinda sad he's so undertuned tho
So basically jayber is like early vauben.
Just wait for Ultimate Jayber to become the best boss killer and mobbing descendant in the game.
(Waiting for this comment to age like milk)
So after 12 minute my take away from the video is that the title is a plea to Nexon "Please fix your Jayber".
Craft, master, delete
I wonder if Vash will also make videos to optimize some of the guns in the game
awesome vid once again vash! (:
I was interested as he's the Turret Guy, and I was like, great, another gun to help, and then I played him.
All they need to do to make him good is scale the turrets to the gun you're holding.
I don't quite think that would fix everything, but in a good many cases it could def improve things ye lol
@VashCowaii Yeah, it at least would make people play him more and make more diverse parties than the usual Bunny, Bunny, Freyna, etc we currently have.
This is sad :/ I really like this descendant! Let's hope for a good rework 🤞
For blue brain farming, resetting Fortress Courtyard leg 1 can give you one elite kill per 24 seconds if you get into a good rhythm. Is there a Jayber farm that's faster than that?
I like turret engineering just for infinite turret and turret zone, obviously has very niche uses like small outposts or that void shard farm but great if you're feeling lazy
Ye engineering is aight for those cases, if you've already invested in your jayber and its too late for you like me
I know he trash at the moment but moving turrets or faster cast and more turrets would be such a huge upgrade. It is such an interesting character idea with 0 follow through. They should scrap his kit and start fresh. Overhault the red mods and all. He needs cool gadgets that hit hard or buff extremely hard
I hope they make jayber good cus he’s a cutie
The lone jayber respecter detected
Hate to ask - but could you do Viessa? Most of the guides for her are very old. I don't think much changed for her, but it would be nice to see.
Hoping for the Enzo, Valby and Gley videos soon, since i'm a bit of a non-atribute main :)
I also noticed that you can only extend his turret duration IF the turret zone is active so basicly you need 2 bullets to enhance the duration of the turret which is pretty annoying but still i love him even tho hes my weak baby
he's your WHAT
@@VashCowaii hahaha yeah my sweet lil weak ah decendant baby.
Jayber 🔛🔝
Jayber is awesome.
High cooldown and abusing overhaul seems like a good alternative
But his damage and healing will still be lacking
Taunting also doesn't work on many enemies and many attacks cant target turrets instead of you
The whole time this dude had me laughing hard😂😂😂😂
Only thing this character kills is the players who invest in him. Pretty sure VashCowaii is on suicide watch after losing 12 catalysts to this guy.
LMAO
Jayber could never heal like my GOAT Yujin
i knowingly leveled up my Jayber with 11 catalysts for the sole purpose of being a farmer.
remotely pop the yellow bar boss or clear one wave remotely, abort mission, and restart.
I forgive you
Hey Vash, it'd be awesome if you could do an update video on ultimate Gley too, as some of the new mods could benefit her.
Can you go over Arche Acceleration Module? Thank you.
Freyna Gun Build when?
so excited you have a game you enjoy! speaking for a large portion of your fanbase here though, that game is actual dogshit, Nexon is evil, and we're desperately waiting for you to have good taste in games again
Viessa next pretty please
viessa is somewhat broken, they screwed up her range extension mods in conjunction with the Cold Snap Watch Mod. The affected range is not extended, the abilities are just pushed further away. Basically gimping a CC/AOE character in its most important roll with that mod.
Thank you for the vid lol
Gley build plss
Poor Jay-birb :(
I want to fix my Viessa! Please 🙏🏻 ❤
Самое смешное, что когда колоса валят на колено и ты используешь его 4 навык, обе блядь турели стреляют выше колоса и не могут в него попасть.
Ну и бонусом к этому все боссы постоянно отходят от турелей и по началу это раздражало, но потом, когда начинаешь контролировать их положение на поле боя, становится даже забавно.
Dear Lordt, I've seen what you've done for Freyna... 🙏
this is a jayber vid sir
12 catalysts? Are you insane?!
A little bit. Had to be sure
Bro, who is Jayber?
After the changes, is this argument still valid?
I wouldn't use the first build. But also surprised you didn't give a med turret build just for people who want to go that route. You can build for a 110% firearm dmg and 1,700 hp ever tic per turret. but most heal per tic is just about 2k if you build into it.
I wouldn't use jayber. Period.
@@VashCowaii This is a good point lol
Gosh I really and I mean REALLY wanted to make this guy work 😭 I wanted to main him ever since I started playing the game but then I realized he was outclassed in everything like you said. He’s not even niche just pointless especially when you compare him to every other descendant in the game
Also RIP on the 12 cats, I stopped after 3
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Jayber and blair competing for the worst descendant title. Ik blairs slightly better at mobbing now but hes still outclassed by most the descendants. In mobbing and bosses. Like mobbing why even bother with blair when bunny and freyna exist then bossing why bother when lepic, hailey and freyna exist.
I hope jayber and blair are next in the ultimate descendant lineup and they get heavy improvements
God bless
they need to completely rework him because as he is now he will either be an afk character or hes gonna suck theres no in between they cant keep his kit the way it is
They absolutely will, no way they leave him untouched
@@VashCowaii i agree i just hope they don't just buff numbers because if they do he'll be one of the lamest characters in the game lol